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2020-10-27 2:54:49 PM  
Which is why no Democratic politician should give two sh*ts about how their policies will be cast by the right. Run on a platform that you believe in, no matter how progressive. Republicans will lie either way.
 
2020-10-27 3:04:04 PM  
The world's second largest projector is located in the Music Media Dome in Moscow. The largest projector is located within the GOP.

Coincidentally, both are owned by Russia.
 
2020-10-27 3:14:53 PM  
maybe, but we are not pigs.

they want a fight?
 
2020-10-27 5:39:41 PM  
Because King Dump keeps saying "Radical Democrats" over and over and over. His cultists and sycophant supporters in Congress keep hearing it and eventually come to believe it's true.
 
2020-10-27 6:05:55 PM  
If supporting equality for all, freedom from religion and equal application of our laws is radical, fark yes, I'm a radical!
 
2020-10-27 6:08:04 PM  
But did you consider... Venezuela??
 
2020-10-27 6:09:26 PM  
Other Democrats aren't helping either. Free college and healthcare are still boogeymen.
 
2020-10-27 6:10:14 PM  
"Accuse others of that which you're most guilty."

Again, straight out of the dumbass playbook.
 
2020-10-27 6:10:14 PM  
Yes but 99% of those people are white. Whites can never be the radicals
 
2020-10-27 6:10:34 PM  
"Radical" is among the most bullshiat adjectives in contemporary politics.

The Republican Party was established to end Slavery. Accordingly, Abraham Lincoln was a "Radical Republican", a raging lib and the most consequential President in history.

More radicals, please.
 
2020-10-27 6:10:43 PM  
Chomsky has been calling the GOP a radical element for 20 years.
 
2020-10-27 6:12:20 PM  

scottydoesntknow: The world's second largest projector is located in the Music Media Dome in Moscow. The largest projector is located within the GOP.

Coincidentally, both are owned by Russia.


This. The GOP do not behave like they are citizens of this nation. They don't even FAKE caring about the people.
 
2020-10-27 6:12:23 PM  
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2020-10-27 6:12:30 PM  
Republicans always lie.
 
2020-10-27 6:12:57 PM  
Yeah, too bad Democratic Primary voters decided the best possible choice for President is the guy who says his best selling point is that he can work with Republicans. We get the government we deserve.
 
2020-10-27 6:13:46 PM  
Republicans know how to fight, know how to win, and know how to maintain power when they win (i.e. pack the courts, gerrymander, voter suppression, massive political funding).

Democrats on the other hand, gain power by chance or gain power because the opponent is so terrible (i.e. Trump).

Nothing is going to change until either Democrats fight back, fight dirty, or American voters elect new Democrats that are fighters.
 
2020-10-27 6:14:42 PM  
fark the NY times
 
2020-10-27 6:16:18 PM  
Lol, Republicans only packed the supreme court if you accept the new definition of court packing that didn't exist a week ago. By the same method, everyone on fark is now a violent rapist.
 
2020-10-27 6:16:26 PM  
If you're on the political Right you're not a Radical, you're a Reactionary.
 
2020-10-27 6:16:55 PM  
Please stop saying the Republicans "packed the supreme court". That phrase has a meaning and what they did isn't it. They stole two nominations. Packing the court means something else entirely.

Thank you.
 
2020-10-27 6:17:11 PM  
I don't know when, but at some point, I'm sure the GOP is going to rue the day they decided to brand every Democratic politician as a 'radical socialist'

If Biden has a relatively successful presidency and becomes popular among those who voted for him, what are they gonna say when someone like AOC is the nominee? Don't vote for her because she's a socialist, but actually this time? At some point a critical mass of voters are gonna start thinking maybe this so called "socialism" isn't that bad after all.

It's basically the boy who cried wolf but with socialism instead. By going with this messaging strategy that any form of social welfare is "socialism" the GOP is almost doing as much to improve the public's opinion of socialism as actual Democratic Socialists are.

For the record, I personally consider countries like Canada, Germany, Norway, etc to be examples of democratic capitalism, not socialism, but I never once got a conservative to understand or even remotely care about the difference.
 
2020-10-27 6:17:20 PM  

Weatherkiss: Yeah, too bad Democratic Primary voters decided the best possible choice for President is the guy who says his best selling point is that he can work with Republicans. We get the government we deserve.


You mean the guy who actually has a chance to win. Do you really think any other candidate would be doing as well as Biden right now?

The first step is getting rid of trump, if we can't do that there is no next step and none of the opponents could do that.
 
2020-10-27 6:17:38 PM  

FatherChaos: Because King Dump keeps saying "Radical Democrats" over and over and over. His cultists and sycophant supporters in Congress keep hearing it and eventually come to believe it's true.


It's not just Trump. It's most Republican pols and Fox. And it's always "far left" or "radical left, or as you said "radical democrats"" that are moving left, without discussion of the GOP moving to the right and forsaking truth. They are, though, butthurt that liberals and mainstream media won't take them at their word. I'm personally most offended when they refer to themselves and Republican voters as "real Americans" as if there's only one kind and anyone not on their team isn't a real American--and never mind what they've been advocating for three years is fascism.
 
2020-10-27 6:18:45 PM  
Put me on team 'Democrats need to stop giving any kind of fark what republicans say and act boldly'.  The republicans are going to scream "I'm so offended, that's the most outrageous libbiest socialist thing that could ever happen, vote more conservatives back in office" no matter what.  Democrats might as well act that way and get some shiat done.  At this point, they _need_ to act that way or our country is over.
 
2020-10-27 6:18:52 PM  

Tabletop: Lol, Republicans only packed the supreme court if you accept the new definition of court packing that didn't exist a week ago. By the same method, everyone on fark is now a violent rapist.


Did this make sense in your head?  Do you taste colors?
 
2020-10-27 6:18:57 PM  

RasIanI: Chomsky has been calling the GOP a radical element for 20 years.


The GOP has a tradition dating back to the 1960's of consolidating, closing ranks,, becoming more insular,, and catering to an ever-more delusional and hard-core remaining base, every 2 decades or so.

1960's- Young Turks and Taft Republicans push out the moderate, TeddyR Republicans
1980's- Regan gets in bed with the Conservative Christian Evangelical movement.
2000's- TEA PARTY!!!!
2020's- Trumpism
 
2020-10-27 6:19:06 PM  

Tabletop: Lol, Republicans only packed the supreme court if you accept the new definition of court packing that didn't exist a week ago. By the same method, everyone on fark is now a violent rapist.


Actually they did by any definition the kept seats on the Supreme Court and lower court open until their guy could be elected. They packed the court, there is no other definition that works.
 
2020-10-27 6:19:40 PM  

anjin-san: At some point a critical mass of voters are gonna start thinking maybe this so called "socialism" isn't that bad after all


That's basically what's happening in Virginia at the state level. Democratic majority has been pushing through progressive policies and the people are looking at them and saying "Hey, this stuff isn't so bad after all." which means that through good governance and administration, Virginia might turn out to be a reliably blue state in the future.
 
2020-10-27 6:19:48 PM  

RasIanI: Chomsky has been calling the GOP a radical element for 20 years.


And it's not like he lets Democrats off the hook. But somehow he is able to criticize Democrats and vote strategically. Funny that.
 
2020-10-27 6:20:06 PM  
That's been their strategy for quite some time.

Anybody who opposes any right-wing ideology whatsoever may as well be a Marxist.
 
2020-10-27 6:20:50 PM  

punkwrestler: Weatherkiss: Yeah, too bad Democratic Primary voters decided the best possible choice for President is the guy who says his best selling point is that he can work with Republicans. We get the government we deserve.

You mean the guy who actually has a chance to win. Do you really think any other candidate would be doing as well as Biden right now?

The first step is getting rid of trump, if we can't do that there is no next step and none of the opponents could do that.


You said the same thing about Bloomberg lol
 
2020-10-27 6:21:23 PM  
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2020-10-27 6:22:02 PM  

punkwrestler: Tabletop: Lol, Republicans only packed the supreme court if you accept the new definition of court packing that didn't exist a week ago. By the same method, everyone on fark is now a violent rapist.

Actually they did by any definition the kept seats on the Supreme Court and lower court open until their guy could be elected. They packed the court, there is no other definition that works.


"Packing the court" means expanding how many members there are and appointing Justices from your political party. This has been the meaning of the phrase since at least FDR threatened to do it.

As I said before, the GoP stole two seats, they did not pack the court.
 
2020-10-27 6:22:27 PM  

Weatherkiss: Yeah, too bad Democratic Primary voters decided the best possible choice for President is the guy who says his best selling point is that he can work with Republicans. We get the government we deserve.


Democrats always run to the middle during the election season, they don't actually mean it, it's just a political ploy.  A Harris/Biden administration would not be center left.
 
2020-10-27 6:22:51 PM  
Radical left: please stop killing us

Radical right: please stand still so we can kill you easier
 
2020-10-27 6:23:02 PM  

Weatherkiss: Yeah, too bad Democratic Primary voters decided the best possible choice for President is the guy who says his best selling point is that he can work with Republicans. We get the government we deserve.


We had a Secretary of State, multiple term Senator, Legal scholar, and had been in the WH before and she was probably the most highly prepared candidate in a generation.  Americans don't want people in government to be able administrators, they want them to play sax, have a beer with them and shoot the rock from outside.  Flash more than substance.

America is a budding collapsed empire.  We are Rome and the barbarians aren't at the gate.  They are the farking GOP and rural Americans.
 
2020-10-27 6:23:26 PM  

desertratt: Weatherkiss: Yeah, too bad Democratic Primary voters decided the best possible choice for President is the guy who says his best selling point is that he can work with Republicans. We get the government we deserve.

Democrats always run to the middle during the election season, they don't actually mean it, it's just a political ploy.  A Harris/Biden administration would not be center left.


I'm so relieved to hear that Biden is a liar, I guess.
 
2020-10-27 6:24:07 PM  

desertratt: Weatherkiss: Yeah, too bad Democratic Primary voters decided the best possible choice for President is the guy who says his best selling point is that he can work with Republicans. We get the government we deserve.

Democrats always run to the middle during the election season, they don't actually mean it, it's just a political ploy.  A Harris/Biden administration would not be center left.


Obama ran on "Hope & Change" then shifted right. He shifted even more right if you believed that he was going to throw Texans into abandoned Walmarts.
 
2020-10-27 6:24:07 PM  

karl2025: If you're on the political Right you're not a Radical, you're a Reactionary.


I call then nazi sympathizers
 
2020-10-27 6:25:26 PM  

UltimaCS: punkwrestler: Weatherkiss: Yeah, too bad Democratic Primary voters decided the best possible choice for President is the guy who says his best selling point is that he can work with Republicans. We get the government we deserve.

You mean the guy who actually has a chance to win. Do you really think any other candidate would be doing as well as Biden right now?

The first step is getting rid of trump, if we can't do that there is no next step and none of the opponents could do that.

You said the same thing about Bloomberg lol


Bloomberg fizzled, Biden took control and consolidated his base. So he is the one most of the party supported in the end.
 
2020-10-27 6:25:39 PM  

punkwrestler: Weatherkiss: Yeah, too bad Democratic Primary voters decided the best possible choice for President is the guy who says his best selling point is that he can work with Republicans. We get the government we deserve.

You mean the guy who actually has a chance to win. Do you really think any other candidate would be doing as well as Biden right now?

The first step is getting rid of trump, if we can't do that there is no next step and none of the opponents could do that.


He's ran a good campaign.  He was never going to be Stokely Carmichael, but his economic plan is more progressive than I would have imagined, and his healthcare plan may not be M4A, but it's about 75% of the way there.

But hey, there are still progressive voter intent on undoing all of their progress because Biden isn't 100% of what they asked for.

We'll see how a post-election Biden governs (if he wins), but for the time being, at least he's dropped the whole "Republicans are my esteemed colleagues" act he began with.  It has to be clear to him they are the biggest threat our Democracy has ever faced.
 
2020-10-27 6:26:24 PM  

Weatherkiss: Yeah, too bad Democratic Primary voters decided the best possible choice for President is the guy who says his best selling point is that he can work with Republicans. We get the government we deserve.


Plus also claiming he will veto Medicare for All if it comes across his desk as president because he will deem it "unaffordable" (even though the Koch brothers themselves commissioned a study that inadvertently proved that single-payer healthcare is cheaper in the long run than our current system). The scenario playing out for Biden to even need to veto Medicare for All is it getting through Congress and the Senate (which the latter is currently in Republican hands), so even if his own party gets it through those obstacles and has a funding mechanism in place in implementation, it's still a no from Biden!

The DNC better hope that fear of what the GOP could do if they regain control remains in the minds of Americans, because we have a short term memory and just telling us the status quo is alright is what got us fascist Trump (his populist calls for better jobs, higher paying jobs and to stop giving jobs to undocumented immigrants resonated with alot of jobless/underpaid people who vote, even though Trump didn't mean a single word he said, he's still president now because of it)! If we don't have a post Biden candidate who will actually work to improve people's lives and stop doing the bidding of companies who bribe the Republicans just the same as the Democrats, then we might as well say hello to a more competent fascist who may be impossible to get rid of, President Tom Cotton.
 
2020-10-27 6:26:57 PM  

punkwrestler: Weatherkiss: Yeah, too bad Democratic Primary voters decided the best possible choice for President is the guy who says his best selling point is that he can work with Republicans. We get the government we deserve.

You mean the guy who actually has a chance to win. Do you really think any other candidate would be doing as well as Biden right now?

The first step is getting rid of trump, if we can't do that there is no next step and none of the opponents could do that.


This. Bernie lost to Biden worse than he lost to Hillary. Complain about 'dirty tricks' all you like, but that's politics, and if Bernie couldn't win against the Democratic political 'machine', he didn't stand a chance against the Republicans if he became an actual threat to them.

Get Democrats into power. Vote for them reliably in the general elections. But build up progressive candidates at all levels, using the threat of primaries to pull whichever Democrat wins to the left. Keep protesting, keep contacting your Congresspeople, and keep working. If we don't keep working to pull the country left, no matter who is in office, it's incredibly easy to lose any ground we take.

This may be our last chance to use that strategy. If Trump wins* again, and the GOP keeps control of the Senate, there may very well be no peaceful way to get rid of them in 2022 or 2024.

Revolutions might sound good on the surface, and past ones may be romanticized (see: references to the guillotine), but they should be avoided if at all possible, lest we win and end up with a Robespierre or a Stalin, or lose and end up with a right-wing dictatorship that has a shiny new excuse to harass, imprison and murder dissidents by the millions.
 
2020-10-27 6:27:12 PM  

jst3p: punkwrestler: Tabletop: Lol, Republicans only packed the supreme court if you accept the new definition of court packing that didn't exist a week ago. By the same method, everyone on fark is now a violent rapist.

Actually they did by any definition the kept seats on the Supreme Court and lower court open until their guy could be elected. They packed the court, there is no other definition that works.

"Packing the court" means expanding how many members there are and appointing Justices from your political party. This has been the meaning of the phrase since at least FDR threatened to do it.

As I said before, the GoP stole two seats, they did not pack the court.


Well guess what the meaning of things can change. What the Republicans did was steal like 200 judicial seats.
 
2020-10-27 6:29:27 PM  

punkwrestler: jst3p: punkwrestler: Tabletop: Lol, Republicans only packed the supreme court if you accept the new definition of court packing that didn't exist a week ago. By the same method, everyone on fark is now a violent rapist.

Actually they did by any definition the kept seats on the Supreme Court and lower court open until their guy could be elected. They packed the court, there is no other definition that works.

"Packing the court" means expanding how many members there are and appointing Justices from your political party. This has been the meaning of the phrase since at least FDR threatened to do it.

As I said before, the GoP stole two seats, they did not pack the court.

Well guess what the meaning of things can change. What the Republicans did was steal like 200 judicial seats.


The meaning hasn't changed, you and others are misusing it. I think it would be fair to say they stacked the lower courts but "packing the court" still means something different. I hope if Biden wins and the dems take the Senate that they actually pack the court.
 
2020-10-27 6:31:14 PM  

jst3p: punkwrestler: jst3p: punkwrestler: Tabletop: Lol, Republicans only packed the supreme court if you accept the new definition of court packing that didn't exist a week ago. By the same method, everyone on fark is now a violent rapist.

Actually they did by any definition the kept seats on the Supreme Court and lower court open until their guy could be elected. They packed the court, there is no other definition that works.

"Packing the court" means expanding how many members there are and appointing Justices from your political party. This has been the meaning of the phrase since at least FDR threatened to do it.

As I said before, the GoP stole two seats, they did not pack the court.

Well guess what the meaning of things can change. What the Republicans did was steal like 200 judicial seats.

The meaning hasn't changed, you and others are misusing it. I think it would be fair to say they stacked the lower courts but "packing the court" still means something different. I hope if Biden wins and the dems take the Senate that they actually pack the court.


They're hoping that if they misuse it enough, the meaning will change and they can claim the Republicans did it first. It's a very dishonest way to try to win support for something.
 
2020-10-27 6:31:17 PM  
When I am king, anybody calling his fellow man a "socialist" who is unable to define socialism will be sentenced to ten days in jail, during which time he will be forced to listen to a dramatic reading of the Communist Manifesto on continuous loop.
 
2020-10-27 6:31:44 PM  
The closer we get to the election the more I find that I need this:

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He's right, there is no radical left. Just centrists and the center left here painted to look like one by an insanely radical right.
We just want our country back.
 
2020-10-27 6:31:45 PM  

jst3p: punkwrestler: Tabletop: Lol, Republicans only packed the supreme court if you accept the new definition of court packing that didn't exist a week ago. By the same method, everyone on fark is now a violent rapist.

Actually they did by any definition the kept seats on the Supreme Court and lower court open until their guy could be elected. They packed the court, there is no other definition that works.

"Packing the court" means expanding how many members there are and appointing Justices from your political party. This has been the meaning of the phrase since at least FDR threatened to do it.

As I said before, the GoP stole two seats, they did not pack the court.


Eat FARKING DOGSH*T.  The GOP held non-appellate openings to the federal bench when Obama was president.  They cut the length of debate for judicial appointees from 30 hours to 2.  Then they packed the courts.  Go eat all the dicks next to your disingenuous argument.
 
2020-10-27 6:32:39 PM  

jst3p: punkwrestler: jst3p: punkwrestler: Tabletop: Lol, Republicans only packed the supreme court if you accept the new definition of court packing that didn't exist a week ago. By the same method, everyone on fark is now a violent rapist.

Actually they did by any definition the kept seats on the Supreme Court and lower court open until their guy could be elected. They packed the court, there is no other definition that works.

"Packing the court" means expanding how many members there are and appointing Justices from your political party. This has been the meaning of the phrase since at least FDR threatened to do it.

As I said before, the GoP stole two seats, they did not pack the court.

Well guess what the meaning of things can change. What the Republicans did was steal like 200 judicial seats.

The meaning hasn't changed, you and others are misusing it. I think it would be fair to say they stacked the lower courts but "packing the court" still means something different. I hope if Biden wins and the dems take the Senate that they actually pack the court.


Misuse causes the meaning to change just like W changed the meaning of literally to figuratively and gay and decimate.

You can be a language nazi all you want but we will change the definition of Court packing because that is exactly what the GOP has done.
 
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