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(Austin News KXAN)   'With Zebra mussels here to stay, Austin has a plan to avoid stinky drinking water'   (kxan.com) divider line
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2020-10-27 7:11:27 PM  
SH*T that reminds me

https://www.grocerygateway.com/store/​g​roceryGateway/en/search/?text=mussels

gotta add some mussels to my grocery list- thx subby.
 
2020-10-27 10:07:02 PM  
Austin Water said there are safeguards to keep these chemical feed systems within the pipeline.

Ah, "safeguards". Famous last words.
Article 6 months form now:
Austin Water is investigating how the chemicals got into the water supply.
"I don't understand how they got in there, as we have safeguards" said an Austin Water spokesman.
 
2020-10-27 10:09:36 PM  
Sic the murder hornets on the zebra mussels.
Problem solved.
Pay me.
 
2020-10-27 10:14:54 PM  

Trik: Sic the murder hornets on the zebra mussels.
Problem solved.
Pay me.


Only if the Hornets freeze to death come winter.
 
2020-10-27 10:18:56 PM  

Dead on the River: Trik: Sic the murder hornets on the zebra mussels.
Problem solved.
Pay me.

Only if the Hornets freeze to death come winter.


The tricky part will be fitting murder hornets with tiny SCUBA gear.
 
2020-10-27 10:22:09 PM  
Just throw in some gorillas, get it over with.
 
2020-10-27 10:24:49 PM  

ZMugg: Dead on the River: Trik: Sic the murder hornets on the zebra mussels.
Problem solved.
Pay me.

Only if the Hornets freeze to death come winter.

The tricky part will be fitting murder hornets with tiny SCUBA gear.


Hey, I'm The Idea Guy.
I leave the piddling details to the peons and minions.
 
2020-10-27 10:26:29 PM  
Aint enough. Thats definitely a species ment to thrive and take over. Not even sure how they took over my folks pond.

CSB: A couple years ago I was visiting and my nephew brought my brother a zebra and asked him to crack it open. Brother couldn't. Laughed at him and he tossed it at me, broke it open and splattered everyone around me with salt and water. Nephew says "can you eat it?"
"Most things are edible when fried" ended up somehow frying the damn trash clam in a lot of butter and garlic. Cutting it up on a dare from a 10 year old and eating a piece... then cutting up and serving slivers to like 5 other kids. Absolute trash.

Might be better steamed. But I don't see it.
 
2020-10-27 10:31:19 PM  

Axeofjudgement: Aint enough. Thats definitely a species ment to thrive and take over. Not even sure how they took over my folks pond.

CSB: A couple years ago I was visiting and my nephew brought my brother a zebra and asked him to crack it open. Brother couldn't. Laughed at him and he tossed it at me, broke it open and splattered everyone around me with salt and water. Nephew says "can you eat it?"
"Most things are edible when fried" ended up somehow frying the damn trash clam in a lot of butter and garlic. Cutting it up on a dare from a 10 year old and eating a piece... then cutting up and serving slivers to like 5 other kids. Absolute trash.

Might be better steamed. But I don't see it.


Silt not salt
 
2020-10-27 10:44:59 PM  

Axeofjudgement: Aint enough. Thats definitely a species ment to thrive and take over. Not even sure how they took over my folks pond.

CSB: A couple years ago I was visiting and my nephew brought my brother a zebra and asked him to crack it open. Brother couldn't. Laughed at him and he tossed it at me, broke it open and splattered everyone around me with salt and water. Nephew says "can you eat it?"
"Most things are edible when fried" ended up somehow frying the damn trash clam in a lot of butter and garlic. Cutting it up on a dare from a 10 year old and eating a piece... then cutting up and serving slivers to like 5 other kids. Absolute trash.

Might be better steamed. But I don't see it.


Is there any upside? Like maybe cleared water?
 
2020-10-27 10:48:21 PM  
CSB

I design systems to keep zebra muscles out of cooling systems

ok so not so cool to anyone but me and those with them in their cooling systems...
 
2020-10-27 10:58:28 PM  
NO STINKY DRINKY!

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2020-10-27 11:03:16 PM  
[Caption] Zebra mussels cling to a tire in Lady Bird Lake ... pollution is part of the problem.

Although I don't eat mussels I am even less inclined to add them to my diet when they are being poisoned by copper sulfate pentahydrate. Although, back about 20 or 30 years ago, you could get edible freshwater clams from Lake Travis. I'm not sure what the plan is, but whatever it is, it will wipe out the native clams and probably not the mussels.

Maybe there is some way to accept a fact of nature and make use of it.
 
2020-10-27 11:05:54 PM  
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2020-10-27 11:22:01 PM  
I got a water distiller about 5 months ago. It's great. Makes about a gallon of water at a time and since it's distilled, there is nothing in the collection container but water. No minerals, no chemicals, no organic material or bacteria. Works out to about 20 cents a gallon for the electricity.
 
2020-10-27 11:23:41 PM  
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2020-10-27 11:26:30 PM  

morg: Is there any upside? Like maybe cleared water?


Depends on your point of view. The clear water makes it easier for seaweed and phytoplankton to grow, which means more food for fish and larger populations. Not a bad thing in a man made reservoir partially created for recreation, but they absolutely devastate the natural ecology in places like the Great Lakes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zebra_m​u​ssel#Ecology
 
2020-10-27 11:27:57 PM  

Axeofjudgement: CSB: A couple years ago I was visiting and my nephew brought my brother a zebra and asked him to crack it open. Brother couldn't. Laughed at him and he tossed it at me, broke it open and splattered everyone around me with salt and water.



You're a monster !  So is the person that gave that poor zebra salt water to drink.
 
2020-10-27 11:43:44 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: CSB

I design systems to keep zebra muscles out of cooling systems

ok so not so cool to anyone but me and those with them in their cooling systems...


Wet utility guy here, I think your story is cool bro. Keep up the good work.
 
2020-10-28 12:28:19 AM  
Not a biologist.  Mussels are generally good at cleaning water, not fouling it.  How are the zebra mussels causing contamination?
 
2020-10-28 12:49:05 AM  

batrachoseps: Not a biologist.  Mussels are generally good at cleaning water, not fouling it.  How are the zebra mussels causing contamination?


They're not causing contamination. They're really a beneficial species -- they just proliferate too damn quickly.
 
2020-10-28 12:50:19 AM  
stinky drinking water is the name of my Bluegrass band.  We hail from Flint, MI.
 
2020-10-28 1:02:24 AM  

NutWrench: I got a water distiller about 5 months ago. It's great. Makes about a gallon of water at a time and since it's distilled, there is nothing in the collection container but water. No minerals, no chemicals, no organic material or bacteria. Works out to about 20 cents a gallon for the electricity.


Avoid using it as drinking water, if that was an idea. Distilled water will leach trace minerals from you over time.
 
2020-10-28 3:17:19 AM  

BafflerMeal: NutWrench: I got a water distiller about 5 months ago. It's great. Makes about a gallon of water at a time and since it's distilled, there is nothing in the collection container but water. No minerals, no chemicals, no organic material or bacteria. Works out to about 20 cents a gallon for the electricity.

Avoid using it as drinking water, if that was an idea. Distilled water will leach trace minerals from you over time.


Probably good for using it in a iron but unless you take in laundry to make some extra cash I can't see the upside.
 
2020-10-28 3:35:42 AM  

NutWrench: I got a water distiller about 5 months ago. It's great. Makes about a gallon of water at a time and since it's distilled, there is nothing in the collection container but water. No minerals, no chemicals, no organic material or bacteria. Works out to about 20 cents a gallon for the electricity.


I promise you that's not true, but that's a very good thing. Distilled water isn't that pure at all, not even close to laboratory grade in a lot of cases. But it's TOO pure for drinking mostly. Lab grade "pure water" will literally suck the calcium out of your bones. What kind of distiller did you get, was it specifically made for home use?
 
2020-10-28 6:25:04 AM  
Michigan's experience from the Great Lakes is that those zebra mussels are not there to stay. They'll be almost completely replaced by quagga mussels. And municipal water managers will look back fondly on the days zebra mussels were their worst problem. Enjoy the calm before the storm.
 
2020-10-28 8:00:23 AM  

batrachoseps: Not a biologist.  Mussels are generally good at cleaning water, not fouling it.  How are the zebra mussels causing contamination?


They quickly grow and foul intakes for the city municipal water supply. When they die they decompose and the water smells like rotten seafood, even after going through the processing for drinking. Safe to drink but very stinky.
 
2020-10-28 8:32:09 AM  
The mussels also filter toxins out of the water and when the mussels are cleaned off their remains can contain high levels of those toxins and those remains, when collected can be considered hazardous waste, which brings the cost of removal and disposal exponentially higher.

On the other hand, they do a fairly decent job of cleaning the water that they are in. But then you are left with the mass of zebra mussels and all that goes with it.
https://www.thesuperfins.com/are-muss​e​ls-the-secret-answer-to-cleaning-pollu​ted-water/
 
2020-10-28 8:48:14 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: CSB

I design systems to keep zebra muscles out of cooling systems

ok so not so cool to anyone but me and those with them in their cooling systems...


No, definitely cool. Those little farkers ruin every body of water they invade and the damage they cause is very expensive.
 
2020-10-28 9:25:25 AM  

Al Tsheimers: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: CSB

I design systems to keep zebra muscles out of cooling systems

ok so not so cool to anyone but me and those with them in their cooling systems...

No, definitely cool. Those little farkers ruin every body of water they invade and the damage they cause is very expensive.


Yeah we get to them when they are just little babies and smash them to bits using balls.
 
2020-10-28 11:24:12 AM  

Chagrin: batrachoseps: Not a biologist.  Mussels are generally good at cleaning water, not fouling it.  How are the zebra mussels causing contamination?

They're not causing contamination. They're really a beneficial species -- they just proliferate too damn quickly.


This.  The problem is not tgem polluting.  The problem is that they get inside and around equipment that goes in the water and clog it all up, including the pumps your city uses to draw water from the rivers and the lakes.

Had the Zebra muscles stayed in the rivers and the lakes that they used ty o they would not be causing anyone any problems.
 
2020-10-28 3:23:57 PM  
I heard zebra mussels were super effecient at cleaning water and cause a lot of native species to starve in the newly clear water.

Is it true? Do they stink? Both could be true. Maybe they clear the water and stink of the garbage they eat, especially algae.
 
2020-10-28 3:25:24 PM  
Zebra mussels are natives of the Ukraine and Russia. I blame Republican collusion for their spread.

Well, it's worth a try. Facts aren't getting people anywhere with Trumpers. Conspiracy theories will have to do.
 
2020-10-28 4:30:58 PM  

BafflerMeal: NutWrench: I got a water distiller about 5 months ago. It's great. Makes about a gallon of water at a time and since it's distilled, there is nothing in the collection container but water. No minerals, no chemicals, no organic material or bacteria. Works out to about 20 cents a gallon for the electricity.

Avoid using it as drinking water, if that was an idea. Distilled water will leach trace minerals from you over time.


Entropy or something like that. Don't even consider drinking dionized water.
 
2020-10-28 5:37:59 PM  
Wiki article recommends installing copper screens on intake pipes.
 
2020-10-28 8:29:27 PM  

EdAmesAndMrs.: Wiki article recommends installing copper screens on intake pipes.


Also adds a level of maintenance because you have to service those screens to remove shells, trash and other detritus from them. If you have them in the building somewhere you can service them then the mussels grow upstream of them and you still have a problem.  If you install them at the intake then you have to service something underwater.
 
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