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2020-10-27 2:48:37 PM  
Californian here, fark off because according to the list we're 51st out of the 50 states in D.C.

That's right, the voters from most populated state with by far the biggest GDP have the smallest say in the process. We need to get rid of the electoral college twenty years ago. Why should some derpy dairy farmers in Wisconsin who hate how minorities are all on welfare but know that their government checks are well deserved have more of a say in how we elect our government than I do? If they're afraid that the issues that they care about are going to be ignored then all I have to say is move to California and experience it firsthand to see what it's like.

On the plus side we don't get any polling calls, there are very few political signs up or bumper stickers on cars and no political junk mail or nonstop ads on TV and radio here so there is a small consolation. It feels like the election is happening somewhere else when you're living in California.
 
2020-10-27 3:17:54 PM  

red230: Californian here, fark off because according to the list we're 51st out of the 50 states in D.C.

That's right, the voters from most populated state with by far the biggest GDP have the smallest say in the process. We need to get rid of the electoral college twenty years ago. Why should some derpy dairy farmers in Wisconsin who hate how minorities are all on welfare but know that their government checks are well deserved have more of a say in how we elect our government than I do? If they're afraid that the issues that they care about are going to be ignored then all I have to say is move to California and experience it firsthand to see what it's like.

On the plus side we don't get any polling calls, there are very few political signs up or bumper stickers on cars and no political junk mail or nonstop ads on TV and radio here so there is a small consolation. It feels like the election is happening somewhere else when you're living in California.


I was just going to ask, how do you think the west coast feels, but I think you covered that much better.
 
2020-10-27 8:21:49 PM  
It is profoundly messed up that this is even a thing we can assess.  No state should have more "power" over the election, because states shouldn't matter.  The Electoral College needs to be neutered or abolished.
 
2020-10-27 8:21:49 PM  
Yeah, but the only state* that didn't go to Nixon in '72!


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/*yes, I know D.C. was also smart enough
 
2020-10-27 8:23:07 PM  
This thread never stood a chance.
 
2020-10-27 8:23:27 PM  

austerity101: It is profoundly messed up that this is even a thing we can assess.  No state should have more "power" over the election, because states shouldn't matter.  The Electoral College needs to be neutered or abolished.


I get to use this meme twice today!

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2020-10-27 8:24:48 PM  
DONCHA CAH ABOUT BAHESAN??!??!
 
2020-10-27 8:25:06 PM  
Leap year?
 
2020-10-27 8:28:28 PM  

austerity101: It is profoundly messed up that this is even a thing we can assess.  No state should have more "power" over the election, because states shouldn't matter.  The Electoral College needs to be neutered or abolished.


Like the Virginia Compromise, it was a last ditch gift to keep the South from souring on the idea of democracy and leaving the united states because slavery required a QAnon level of reality that is just too much to keep up and build a great nation, too.

When you purposely stack the cards against yourself, it can take centuries or longer to realize you really f*cked up.
 
2020-10-27 8:35:27 PM  

red230: We need to get rid of the electoral college twenty years ago.


austerity101: It is profoundly messed up that this is even a thing we can assess.  No state should have more "power" over the election, because states shouldn't matter.  The Electoral College needs to be neutered or abolished.


It's less the electoral college than it is the gerrymandering of the Senate.  Less than 300k Wyomingites have the same power as 20 million Californians.  How would you feel about keeping the electoral college, but instead of 2 Senators per state, there are 100 Senate seats (2 for each state), but they are apportioned like congressional district lines rather than state lines?
 
2020-10-27 8:39:20 PM  

red230: Californian here, fark off because according to the list we're 51st out of the 50 states in D.C.

That's right, the voters from most populated state with by far the biggest GDP have the smallest say in the process. We need to get rid of the electoral college twenty years ago. Why should some derpy dairy farmers in Wisconsin who hate how minorities are all on welfare but know that their government checks are well deserved have more of a say in how we elect our government than I do? If they're afraid that the issues that they care about are going to be ignored then all I have to say is move to California and experience it firsthand to see what it's like.

On the plus side we don't get any polling calls, there are very few political signs up or bumper stickers on cars and no political junk mail or nonstop ads on TV and radio here so there is a small consolation. It feels like the election is happening somewhere else when you're living in California.


You know, you could just send a couple million of your logical folks off to the idiot states, and have them send their typical fare to you. Then you could be split 49/49 between logic and derp with 2% "undecided" and get all the attention every election year because you could swing either way!
 
2020-10-27 8:47:52 PM  
On election night, my eyes will be firmly on my Nintendo Switch, steadfastly ignoring all of the bullsh*t that will be plaguing every network. I'll wait to see what the preliminary results are saying the following morning, and then wait for the final results. 

And catch summaries of how the candidates, the government, and the nation is responding to the outcome. 

Paying any more attention than that, at least early on and no matter the result, would be decidedly bad for my mental health (because even if the result is "good" and the Democrats sweep by landslides everywhere, the response from the right will be infuriating).
 
2020-10-27 8:48:44 PM  
Two words:
Scott Brown
 
2020-10-27 8:49:36 PM  

eKonk: red230: Californian here, fark off because according to the list we're 51st out of the 50 states in D.C.

That's right, the voters from most populated state with by far the biggest GDP have the smallest say in the process. We need to get rid of the electoral college twenty years ago. Why should some derpy dairy farmers in Wisconsin who hate how minorities are all on welfare but know that their government checks are well deserved have more of a say in how we elect our government than I do? If they're afraid that the issues that they care about are going to be ignored then all I have to say is move to California and experience it firsthand to see what it's like.

On the plus side we don't get any polling calls, there are very few political signs up or bumper stickers on cars and no political junk mail or nonstop ads on TV and radio here so there is a small consolation. It feels like the election is happening somewhere else when you're living in California.

You know, you could just send a couple million of your logical folks off to the idiot states, and have them send their typical fare to you. Then you could be split 49/49 between logic and derp with 2% "undecided" and get all the attention every election year because you could swing either way!


But make sure they vote, cause if an average of 45% of the population votes, that is a problem, and much easier to fix than a constitutional amendment. Also think that two party tyranny should be looked into; ranked choice voting, which will be a state ballot issue sounds like a good idea. (or it could be done on a federal level and it would be much harder to get in place.)

/ Turns out their are many things to fix, but humans love to imagine silver bullets.
 
2020-10-27 8:55:26 PM  

eKonk: red230: Californian here, fark off because according to the list we're 51st out of the 50 states in D.C.

That's right, the voters from most populated state with by far the biggest GDP have the smallest say in the process. We need to get rid of the electoral college twenty years ago. Why should some derpy dairy farmers in Wisconsin who hate how minorities are all on welfare but know that their government checks are well deserved have more of a say in how we elect our government than I do? If they're afraid that the issues that they care about are going to be ignored then all I have to say is move to California and experience it firsthand to see what it's like.

On the plus side we don't get any polling calls, there are very few political signs up or bumper stickers on cars and no political junk mail or nonstop ads on TV and radio here so there is a small consolation. It feels like the election is happening somewhere else when you're living in California.

You know, you could just send a couple million of your logical folks off to the idiot states, and have them send their typical fare to you. Then you could be split 49/49 between logic and derp with 2% "undecided" and get all the attention every election year because you could swing either way!


One of us! One of us!
Can you handle freezing / sub-freezing weather 5 or 6 months out of the year?
Telecommuter?
Join us.
We would welcome the influx.

We have better cheese cultured from corn fed beef.
 
2020-10-27 8:55:44 PM  

ShavedOrangutan: red230: We need to get rid of the electoral college twenty years ago.

austerity101: It is profoundly messed up that this is even a thing we can assess.  No state should have more "power" over the election, because states shouldn't matter.  The Electoral College needs to be neutered or abolished.

It's less the electoral college than it is the gerrymandering of the Senate.  Less than 300k Wyomingites have the same power as 20 million Californians.  How would you feel about keeping the electoral college, but instead of 2 Senators per state, there are 100 Senate seats (2 for each state), but they are apportioned like congressional district lines rather than state lines?


Maybe the californians should march to wisconsin and burn it to the farking ground since they are so powerful or are they afraid of a puny 300 000 wyomingites?

/electoral college needs to go, no matter how, execute order its ass and tell scotus to eat a dick
 
2020-10-27 8:57:36 PM  

ShavedOrangutan: red230: We need to get rid of the electoral college twenty years ago.

austerity101: It is profoundly messed up that this is even a thing we can assess.  No state should have more "power" over the election, because states shouldn't matter.  The Electoral College needs to be neutered or abolished.

It's less the electoral college than it is the gerrymandering of the Senate.  Less than 300k Wyomingites have the same power as 20 million Californians.  How would you feel about keeping the electoral college, but instead of 2 Senators per state, there are 100 Senate seats (2 for each state), but they are apportioned like congressional district lines rather than state lines?


That would be too sensible.  England does a little of changing boundaries   Historical Lancs is now in Cumbria, etc.  Of course the level of screaming when that happens is nowhere the whining the GOP is capable of.  It would also take the basic premise that being unfair is bad, as opposed to a goal.
 
2020-10-27 9:00:39 PM  
Sounds like you guys are getting ready for November 3rd.
 
2020-10-27 9:04:13 PM  
But they have more Dunkies per GDP than anyone, so it fahkin balances out kid
 
2020-10-27 9:07:23 PM  

willwall: Leap year?


Glad I'm not the only one thinking it.
 
2020-10-27 9:31:17 PM  

red230: Californian here, fark off because according to the list we're 51st out of the 50 states in D.C.

That's right, the voters from most populated state with by far the biggest GDP have the smallest say in the process. We need to get rid of the electoral college twenty years ago. Why should some derpy dairy farmers in Wisconsin who hate how minorities are all on welfare but know that their government checks are well deserved have more of a say in how we elect our government than I do? If they're afraid that the issues that they care about are going to be ignored then all I have to say is move to California and experience it firsthand to see what it's like.

On the plus side we don't get any polling calls, there are very few political signs up or bumper stickers on cars and no political junk mail or nonstop ads on TV and radio here so there is a small consolation. It feels like the election is happening somewhere else when you're living in California.


There are avenues available to you that don't involve constitutional changes. Those who haven't barked up the apportionment tree shouldn't be crying about the EC.

If however you view dropping the EC as your only option, well I cant begin to describe your uphill battle. If you think you can convince 290 congresspersons and 67 senators of your cause, and then 38 state legislatures you should absolutely have at it. It means the US is ready for the change you are proposing.  But I suspect if that were true most wouldn't be lamenting the situation on the internet.

Seriously, call your congressperson and tell them to start revising permanent apportionment
 
2020-10-27 9:37:16 PM  
"voters will also be weighing in on two controversial ballot questions - right to repair and ranked choice voting."

The fark is controversial about those?

"No, I don't think people should be allowed to repair their goods themselves or with third parties. The manufacturer should be allowed to lock up product maintenance behind DRM and copyrights."

"No, I don't think elections should be based on wide-ranging representation. I think the minority player who carves out a sizable niche should be crowned the winner over the wider field of candidates vying for the majority."
 
2020-10-27 9:43:38 PM  
It's all academic unless we keep the pressure on them for the next few years and follow it up by continuing to vote in large numbers in both presidential and off year elections.
Never yield.
 
2020-10-27 10:34:10 PM  

BlazeTrailer: red230: Californian here, fark off because according to the list we're 51st out of the 50 states in D.C.

That's right, the voters from most populated state with by far the biggest GDP have the smallest say in the process. We need to get rid of the electoral college twenty years ago. Why should some derpy dairy farmers in Wisconsin who hate how minorities are all on welfare but know that their government checks are well deserved have more of a say in how we elect our government than I do? If they're afraid that the issues that they care about are going to be ignored then all I have to say is move to California and experience it firsthand to see what it's like.

On the plus side we don't get any polling calls, there are very few political signs up or bumper stickers on cars and no political junk mail or nonstop ads on TV and radio here so there is a small consolation. It feels like the election is happening somewhere else when you're living in California.

There are avenues available to you that don't involve constitutional changes. Those who haven't barked up the apportionment tree shouldn't be crying about the EC.

If however you view dropping the EC as your only option, well I cant begin to describe your uphill battle. If you think you can convince 290 congresspersons and 67 senators of your cause, and then 38 state legislatures you should absolutely have at it. It means the US is ready for the change you are proposing.  But I suspect if that were true most wouldn't be lamenting the situation on the internet.

Seriously, call your congressperson and tell them to start revising permanent apportionment


Pack the courts and have SCOTUS declare it unconstitutional.
 
2020-10-27 10:42:10 PM  

omg bbq: DONCHA CAH ABOUT BAHESAN??!??!


Wtf is that?  It's more like someone from rural Minnesota that moves to Moosehead Lake in Maine.
 
2020-10-27 11:00:34 PM  
The Electoral College is a crazy thing. Good we kept it because slaves and shiat.

Funny how the loyal States got farked sideways on that deal.
 
kab
2020-10-27 11:35:34 PM  
Some votes are simply more equal than others.  Go go democracy.
 
2020-10-28 6:03:38 AM  
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