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(Ars Technica)   A new study shows which messengers are worst at leaking data, draining batteries, and more. TL;DR: link previews are bad, mmmkay?   (arstechnica.com) divider line
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2020-10-27 11:05:22 AM  
Link previews are bad... unless you're using iMessages, Signal, something called Threema, or WhatsApp.
 
2020-10-27 12:17:26 PM  
People prefer functionality over long battery life. If we prioritized battery life we wouldn't be using our phones as personal computers. If you want extra long battery life turn the farking thing off.
 
2020-10-27 12:31:55 PM  

Russ1642: People prefer functionality over long battery life. If we prioritized battery life we wouldn't be using our phones as personal computers. If you want extra long battery life turn the farking thing off.


Pre-quarantine I traveled for work a lot.

I would have loved an e-ink screen phone that did phone, text, and a basic work calendar / email client with a really long battery life.

Honestly, I still would go for such a thing.
 
2020-10-27 12:49:07 PM  

NkThrasher: Russ1642: People prefer functionality over long battery life. If we prioritized battery life we wouldn't be using our phones as personal computers. If you want extra long battery life turn the farking thing off.

Pre-quarantine I traveled for work a lot.

I would have loved an e-ink screen phone that did phone, text, and a basic work calendar / email client with a really long battery life.

Honestly, I still would go for such a thing.


But people don't want that. They want the ability to email, to read Fark, to play music, to make and receive calls from anywhere, wifi, instant alerts, etc. And they also want long battery life. If you want a phone and long battery life get a flip phone but don't expect it to do anything other than making and receiving phone calls and plain text messages.
 
2020-10-27 1:54:14 PM  

Russ1642: NkThrasher: Russ1642: People prefer functionality over long battery life. If we prioritized battery life we wouldn't be using our phones as personal computers. If you want extra long battery life turn the farking thing off.

Pre-quarantine I traveled for work a lot.

I would have loved an e-ink screen phone that did phone, text, and a basic work calendar / email client with a really long battery life.

Honestly, I still would go for such a thing.



I have a several year old Essential PH-1 which is available on Amazon for under $200.   It comes with stock Android with zero manufacturer/carrier bloatware.   If I turn the baseline screen brightness low, set brightness to automatically adjust, turn off wifi and Bluetooth, turn off all of the needless syncing, and don't install any apps other than a browser, outlook (syncing set to the longest interval or on demand only), and whatsapp/signal it will last for days between charges.

There are also Android ROMs built specifically for conserving battery life that can stretch your power even further.

The problem isn't the device, it's the apps & settings that you use or that were pre-installed/pre-set on your device.
 
2020-10-27 3:56:42 PM  

Russ1642: People prefer functionality over long battery life. If we prioritized battery life we wouldn't be using our phones as personal computers. If you want extra long battery life turn the farking thing off.


Found the product manager for Facebook Messenger and Instagram ;-)

"People" want it all. Engineers have to decide which tradeoffs are unavoidable. Product managers decide how to implement those tradeoffs.

In the case of FBM and IG, I'm sure someone in engineering said, "You know, if we do it this way, it's going to download the entire file even if the user doesn't click on it." And the product manager(s) probably said something like, "It's okay, people will blame their phones, carriers or ISPs, not us." As evidenced by:

"Haj Bakry and Mysk reported their findings to Facebook, and the company said that both apps work as intended."
 
2020-10-27 7:01:29 PM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Russ1642: People prefer functionality over long battery life. If we prioritized battery life we wouldn't be using our phones as personal computers. If you want extra long battery life turn the farking thing off.

Found the product manager for Facebook Messenger and Instagram ;-)

"People" want it all. Engineers have to decide which tradeoffs are unavoidable. Product managers decide how to implement those tradeoffs.

In the case of FBM and IG, I'm sure someone in engineering said, "You know, if we do it this way, it's going to download the entire file even if the user doesn't click on it." And the product manager(s) probably said something like, "It's okay, people will blame their phones, carriers or ISPs, not us." As evidenced by:

"Haj Bakry and Mysk reported their findings to Facebook, and the company said that both apps work as intended."


Prefetching is a thing. People want responsiveness. They don't want to wait any longer than they have to when they click on something. So yeah, it's working as intended.
 
2020-10-27 7:24:30 PM  

Russ1642: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Russ1642: People prefer functionality over long battery life. If we prioritized battery life we wouldn't be using our phones as personal computers. If you want extra long battery life turn the farking thing off.

Found the product manager for Facebook Messenger and Instagram ;-)

"People" want it all. Engineers have to decide which tradeoffs are unavoidable. Product managers decide how to implement those tradeoffs.

In the case of FBM and IG, I'm sure someone in engineering said, "You know, if we do it this way, it's going to download the entire file even if the user doesn't click on it." And the product manager(s) probably said something like, "It's okay, people will blame their phones, carriers or ISPs, not us." As evidenced by:

"Haj Bakry and Mysk reported their findings to Facebook, and the company said that both apps work as intended."

Prefetching is a thing. People want responsiveness. They don't want to wait any longer than they have to when they click on something. So yeah, it's working as intended.


I didn't say it wasn't a thing. I'm saying they don't care about your bandwidth, or "why is my phone so slow" when it's pre-fetching the whole 2.6GB file.
 
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