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(Salon)   The workplace gender gap is significantly growing, and women are getting left behind   (salon.com) divider line
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2020-10-27 6:15:17 AM  
Men on average are more aggressive than women.
 
2020-10-27 6:47:18 AM  
Should get some bites. And you're the Boobieser!
 
2020-10-27 6:47:41 AM  
ooo filterpwned
 
2020-10-27 7:32:13 AM  
Ok guys, could we put a brake on the whole"found backward" thing, please?

Thanks, it's getting tiring.
 
2020-10-27 8:30:19 AM  
Isn't that one of the things MAGA is about?
 
2020-10-27 8:44:56 AM  
"According to the Women in the Workplace report, one in four women are thinking of either leaving the workforce of downshifting their careers-a move that would have been dubbed "unthinkable" last year. Black women said they were more likely to consider stepping away from their careers due to the pandemic, according to the study. "

Anecdote here: While my job has suffered greatly due to homeschooling SLEZE Jr., I am making it work.  However, my wife who recently returned to the office now wants to go park time so that she can personally oversee education in the mornings.  While it makes sense economically as I am the primary breadwinner, her decision is less about money and more about missing being as involved as she used to be with the kids.

I think there may be a lot of personal preference at play here and not some pandemic-as-an-excuse conspiracy to keep the patriarchy in power.
 
2020-10-27 8:45:04 AM  
When the schools are closed and the kids are at home, somebody has to be there with them. That's usually going to be mom.
 
2020-10-27 8:53:01 AM  
As groups, men and women have differing preferences on a wide range of issues, and childcare is certainly one of them.  Free will leads to different choices and outcomes, and I would wager this is a significant factor in this case.
 
2020-10-27 8:56:06 AM  
You just hire a few biological males that are really women to even things out.
 
2020-10-27 9:06:06 AM  
"one in four women are thinking of either leaving the workforce or downshifting their careers"

In not a woman. I think of leaving the workforce or "downshifting my career" almost daily. 

My kids would suffer a great deal if I did that and my ex would probably get a court order demanding I go back to work.

So I'm just toughing it out until my arteries reach the correct level of inflexibility. 

/Stupid Gen-X ingrained norms
 
2020-10-27 9:06:40 AM  
FTA: one in four women are thinking of either leaving the workforce of downshifting their careers

There is a grammar mistake in the first paragraph. Obviously this article was crafted with care by both the author and editor.

Also, doesn't this mean women don't take their careers as seriously? Or even that women view their careers as "optional"? If so, isn't that a good thing? Is life solely about promotions and how much money you made for your bosses? This article should be titled "One in four women are still smarter than men, but it is getting worse."
 
2020-10-27 9:37:00 AM  
From the linked report: Given the enormous challenges mothers are facing at work and at home, two things should come as no surprise: Many mothers are considering downshifting their career or leaving the workforce, and mothers are significantly more likely to be thinking about taking these steps than fathers.

Among mothers who are thinking about downshifting or leaving, a majority cite childcare responsibilities as a primary reason.


So they basically want to spend more time on the children when everyone is at home anyway. Or they feel like someone needs to be full time present l, as shown by this quote from the report:
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Also fun is the bit where 70% of fatjers think there is a fair split in chores while only 44% of mothers think so. But then again, if they stopped "correcting" the way the man vacuumed or dusted or whatever, they would have a lot less work to do.
 
2020-10-27 9:53:07 AM  
Or this one

"There was a pressure I personally felt leading a 200-person team. For all of them, I had to solve basic questions like, 'Does everyone have laptops?' and make major safety calls like, 'Everybody, get home.' I felt a personal responsibility to take care of my team and make sure that they weren't scared, that they had marching orders, and that they had guidance on the state of our business . . . I'm also providing advice to my own boss and management team. We had to figure out what we were going to do differently to protect the business, given all of the unknowns."

"Not only that, but I don't have a sliver of time without a meeting from 8 AM until 6 PM every single day. There's no buffer to get a glass of water, go to the bathroom, check on my child. I had a couple of days in the past two weeks where I barely saw my son for 15 minutes. Since Covid-19, I've really thought about whether I can have a long-term career at this company."


If you're micromanaging to that degree, you shouldn't be surprised you're in constant meetings. As for seeing your child, did you work from home before? If not, you didn't see your child then either.

And if you can't say at the start of a meeting "give me a second, I need to get a cup of water because I've been in non-stop meetings for the last few hours" you just need to speak the fark up. You're advising management. You should have a modicum of assertiveness.
 
2020-10-27 10:16:26 AM  
I, for one, support the idea of studying women's behinds further.

That's what the article is about, right? :-)
 
2020-10-27 10:23:42 AM  
What about Leon?
 
2020-10-27 10:37:10 AM  

pueblonative: What about Leon?


Leon's getting larger!
 
2020-10-27 11:54:25 AM  

sleze: "According to the Women in the Workplace report, one in four women are thinking of either leaving the workforce of downshifting their careers-a move that would have been dubbed "unthinkable" last year. Black women said they were more likely to consider stepping away from their careers due to the pandemic, according to the study. "
Anecdote here: While my job has suffered greatly due to homeschooling SLEZE Jr., I am making it work.  However, my wife who recently returned to the office now wants to go park time so that she can personally oversee education in the mornings.  While it makes sense economically as I am the primary breadwinner, her decision is less about money and more about missing being as involved as she used to be with the kids.
I think there may be a lot of personal preference at play here and not some pandemic-as-an-excuse conspiracy to keep the patriarchy in power.


Yes, YOUR personal preference. Most women don't have a choice whether or not to spend time with the kids. They don't have time. And when times get hard, it's unthinkable for a man to dump his stuff, but it's natural for a woman to cut back on her outside activities, so she can take care of the house.

Personally, I have nothing against this. Some women are finding out that they don't want to work like a dog, and they'd rather be a housewife and raise kids. Well, now that we've "regressed" to this puny economic state, they're getting a chance to say, "Hey, you know what--this 'liberation' shiat is for the birds. All it did was make me buy more."
Men should also be able to opt out, if they're like that. Just make sure that you have a breadwinner. But there is nothing in life that says that two people HAVE to work just to raise a child together. We just made that up--or advertising made it up for us, and we followed it. You've come a long way, Baby. Hack cough. You can work in advertising, and con other young women just like yourself to be mindless working drones.

What's so natural about two parents who don't even raise their own kid? What's so natural about not making a home anymore, but just taking over some housing unit for a time, until you get a better job and move on? What's so natural about thinking about your own life as nothing but a way to produce money and not, say, produce art, or help old people?

It's all wrong. But it has nothing to do with gender.
 
2020-10-27 2:22:43 PM  

DerAppie: Also fun is the bit where 70% of fatjers think there is a fair split in chores while only 44% of mothers think so. But then again, if they stopped "correcting" the way the man vacuumed or dusted or whatever, they would have a lot less work to do.


My younger brother lived with me for a bit, and correcting chores was a common occurrence.

There was an incident where my brother did dishes one night. The next morning, I could smell chicken in the kitchen, sniffed around, and found it coming from a "clean" fork with chicken still on it.

Also, he didn't wash the actual handles. He only "washed" the part that touched food, and the rest of the utensil was left coated in a thin layer of hand grease.

He also didn't believe in washing the undersides of dishes...which was maddening given that he would stack them after drying.

THAT was his idea of "washing" dishes. More work for me, definitely, but sometimes the job is done so badly that there would be physical consequences for leaving it alone.

/I feel like the corrective cleaning actions for most people are situations like this.
 
2020-10-27 8:25:23 PM  

Snaptastic: DerAppie: Also fun is the bit where 70% of fatjers think there is a fair split in chores while only 44% of mothers think so. But then again, if they stopped "correcting" the way the man vacuumed or dusted or whatever, they would have a lot less work to do.

My younger brother lived with me for a bit, and correcting chores was a common occurrence.

There was an incident where my brother did dishes one night. The next morning, I could smell chicken in the kitchen, sniffed around, and found it coming from a "clean" fork with chicken still on it.

Also, he didn't wash the actual handles. He only "washed" the part that touched food, and the rest of the utensil was left coated in a thin layer of hand grease.

He also didn't believe in washing the undersides of dishes...which was maddening given that he would stack them after drying.

THAT was his idea of "washing" dishes. More work for me, definitely, but sometimes the job is done so badly that there would be physical consequences for leaving it alone.

/I feel like the corrective cleaning actions for most people are situations like this.


If stuff is still dirty then the chore is objectively still undone.

I am talking about people who will repack a dishwasher because it was packed "wrong" despite stuff coming out clean. Or re-ordering the way the laundry has been hung out to dry because of personal preferences.
 
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