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2020-10-27 1:47:14 AM  
With that distinctive hair, the Batmask will be as effective at hiding identity as Clark Kent's glasses.

/Because tv superheroes have to be authentic and realistic in every detail.
 
2020-10-27 2:10:22 AM  
I'm not worried about the costume.  But the writers will have to be very good to fit her into the huge Kate Kane shaped hole in the show.
 
2020-10-27 3:10:45 AM  

Alphax: I'm not worried about the costume.  But the writers will have to be very good to fit her into the huge Kate Kane shaped hole in the show.


Yeah, I worry that Alice (who's the best part of the show, imo, at least in small-ish doses) will get written out because she'll have no connection to this new character.
 
2020-10-27 3:18:19 AM  

fusillade762: Alphax: I'm not worried about the costume.  But the writers will have to be very good to fit her into the huge Kate Kane shaped hole in the show.

Yeah, I worry that Alice (who's the best part of the show, imo, at least in small-ish doses) will get written out because she'll have no connection to this new character.


Also Mary Hamilton.
 
2020-10-27 3:33:18 AM  
Dayum. I like her.

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2020-10-27 3:50:06 AM  

Alphax: fusillade762: Alphax: I'm not worried about the costume.  But the writers will have to be very good to fit her into the huge Kate Kane shaped hole in the show.

Yeah, I worry that Alice (who's the best part of the show, imo, at least in small-ish doses) will get written out because she'll have no connection to this new character.

Also Mary Hamilton.


I just hope to dog Mary doesn't have to go through the whole "Doesn't know who Batwoman is" thing again.  She'd JUST joined the Scoobies!
 
2020-10-27 3:54:36 AM  

fusillade762: Alphax: fusillade762: Alphax: I'm not worried about the costume.  But the writers will have to be very good to fit her into the huge Kate Kane shaped hole in the show.

Yeah, I worry that Alice (who's the best part of the show, imo, at least in small-ish doses) will get written out because she'll have no connection to this new character.

Also Mary Hamilton.

I just hope to dog Mary doesn't have to go through the whole "Doesn't know who Batwoman is" thing again.  She'd JUST joined the Scoobies!


A thought just came to me.. last episode, Commander Kane and the Crows tried to murder Batwoman.. just emptied all of their clips into the batsuit.  After Kate goes missing, I rather hope Mary tells her stepfather just what he tried to do, and rips him a new one.
 
2020-10-27 4:07:29 AM  
On the subject of strong, beautiful black women, I saw this pic of the Pierce girls from Black Lightning a few days ago.  Very nice.

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2020-10-27 4:18:26 AM  

felching pen: With that distinctive hair, the Batmask will be as effective at hiding identity as Clark Kent's glasses.

/Because tv superheroes have to be authentic and realistic in every detail.


It's a WB Arrowverse character. By the end of her 1st episode 3 - 5 other characters will know her secret identity. By the end of the 1st season up to 30 including some of her villains.
 
2020-10-27 5:29:38 AM  

Trik: felching pen: With that distinctive hair, the Batmask will be as effective at hiding identity as Clark Kent's glasses.

/Because tv superheroes have to be authentic and realistic in every detail.

It's a WB Arrowverse character. By the end of her 1st episode 3 - 5 other characters will know her secret identity. By the end of the 1st season up to 30 including some of her villains.


This is so, aside from the core four, Bertlanni only has to pay for supporting actors who are in 4-6 episodes a season.
 
2020-10-27 5:41:52 AM  
"I felt it was important that viewers could tell by the silhouette that Batwoman was a Black girl."

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2020-10-27 6:57:10 AM  
She better steer clear of Firefly(Garfield Lyons) . Because,with that hair,shiat'll go sideways REAL soon.

So far,not a very smart vigilante.
 
2020-10-27 7:16:11 AM  

felching pen: With that distinctive hair, the Batmask will be as effective at hiding identity as Clark Kent's glasses.

/Because tv superheroes have to be authentic and realistic in every detail.


It's a wig.

Like... diegetically, batwoman in the comics wears a wig as part of her disguise, distinct from her normal hair color, to make herself visually distinct from Batman, as without it they're both bulky people in black ballistic armor and a cape.

I forget what the character's actual hair color even is, but even if it's red the plot point makes the artists draw it as pretty distinctly artificial in costume, plus it's got the standard Batman stripper setup where if you yank on it it comes right off (see also: capes).

Admittedly, yes, this is still silly.
 
2020-10-27 7:19:33 AM  

Jim_Callahan: felching pen: With that distinctive hair, the Batmask will be as effective at hiding identity as Clark Kent's glasses.

/Because tv superheroes have to be authentic and realistic in every detail.

It's a wig.

Like... diegetically, batwoman in the comics wears a wig as part of her disguise, distinct from her normal hair color, to make herself visually distinct from Batman, as without it they're both bulky people in black ballistic armor and a cape.

I forget what the character's actual hair color even is, but even if it's red the plot point makes the artists draw it as pretty distinctly artificial in costume, plus it's got the standard Batman stripper setup where if you yank on it it comes right off (see also: capes).

Admittedly, yes, this is still silly.


Kate Kane on the show had very short dark hair, and a long bright red wig in the costume so they wouldn't think she was Batman.

This time... the costume hair looks a lot like the actress's hair.  So it may or may not be a wig this time.  We'll find out next year, when new episodes finally air.
 
2020-10-27 7:32:45 AM  
Being black and gay or bisexual is great but that's not what the majority of the viewers apparently focus on based on the ratings of the original season. They seem to be more into the 'entertaining comic book based TV show with decent story' aspect.
 
2020-10-27 8:31:27 AM  

TappingTheVein: Being black and gay or bisexual is great but that's not what the majority of the viewers apparently focus on based on the ratings of the original season. They seem to be more into the 'entertaining comic book based TV show with decent story' aspect.


At least they didn't screw it up like Supergirl did with Dreamer. That was pure dreck.
 
2020-10-27 8:41:12 AM  

Jim_Callahan: felching pen: With that distinctive hair, the Batmask will be as effective at hiding identity as Clark Kent's glasses.

/Because tv superheroes have to be authentic and realistic in every detail.

It's a wig.

Like... diegetically, batwoman in the comics wears a wig as part of her disguise, distinct from her normal hair color, to make herself visually distinct from Batman, as without it they're both bulky people in black ballistic armor and a cape.

I forget what the character's actual hair color even is, but even if it's red the plot point makes the artists draw it as pretty distinctly artificial in costume, plus it's got the standard Batman stripper setup where if you yank on it it comes right off (see also: capes).

Admittedly, yes, this is still silly.


Silly, yes .But also a callback to sixties Batgirl.

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2020-10-27 8:41:54 AM  
Long hair = something that's easy to grab.

\it's as bad as a cape
 
2020-10-27 8:49:03 AM  
FTA: I felt it was important that viewers could tell by the silhouette that Batwoman was a Black girl.

"It is important for you to see that I am not creating a new identity, I am taking one from you and flaunting it in your face."
"Batwoman was a diversity hire in the 60's to get more male viewers for a comedy show. Catwoman has been both a white woman and a black woman in 60s and again in the 90s. Enjoy this iteration."
"Ruining your childhood!!"
 
2020-10-27 9:14:41 AM  

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: Jim_Callahan: felching pen: With that distinctive hair, the Batmask will be as effective at hiding identity as Clark Kent's glasses.

/Because tv superheroes have to be authentic and realistic in every detail.

It's a wig.

Like... diegetically, batwoman in the comics wears a wig as part of her disguise, distinct from her normal hair color, to make herself visually distinct from Batman, as without it they're both bulky people in black ballistic armor and a cape.

I forget what the character's actual hair color even is, but even if it's red the plot point makes the artists draw it as pretty distinctly artificial in costume, plus it's got the standard Batman stripper setup where if you yank on it it comes right off (see also: capes).

Admittedly, yes, this is still silly.

Silly, yes .But also a callback to sixties Batgirl.

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pointy. mmmmm
 
2020-10-27 9:21:17 AM  
farking amazing hair
 
2020-10-27 9:22:11 AM  

jaytkay: Dayum. I like her.

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Flawless skin
 
2020-10-27 9:38:54 AM  

felching pen: With that distinctive hair, the Batmask will be as effective at hiding identity as Clark Kent's glasses.

/Because tv superheroes have to be authentic and realistic in every detail.


I done told you about that ponytail, Namond.
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2020-10-27 10:31:54 AM  

Alphax: I'm not worried about the costume.  But the writers will have to be very good to fit her into the huge Kate Kane shaped hole in the show.


Easy, just use some variation of
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2020-10-27 10:36:34 AM  

AntonChigger: Alphax: I'm not worried about the costume.  But the writers will have to be very good to fit her into the huge Kate Kane shaped hole in the show.

Easy, just use some variation of
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Not really... not when 90% of the cast on the show is related to Kate Kane, or has slept with her.  Having her go missing mysteriously takes the center out.
 
2020-10-27 10:45:41 AM  
why are they turning everyone black, gay or female? what's next?
 
2020-10-27 10:57:50 AM  

some_beer_drinker: why are they turning everyone black, gay or female? what's next?


Somebody will have to be on TV when white males are exterminated
 
2020-10-27 11:01:12 AM  
I can't wait for the IMDB reviews. Trolls are going to go crazy.
 
2020-10-27 11:01:25 AM  

some_beer_drinker: why are they turning everyone black, gay or female? what's next?


Because they want some variety and a specific race or sexual identity is usually not required for most superheroes?
 
2020-10-27 11:08:23 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Long hair = something that's easy to grab.

\it's as bad as a cape


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2020-10-27 11:09:55 AM  

some_beer_drinker: why are they turning everyone black, gay or female? what's next?


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2020-10-27 11:17:57 AM  
I would like to visit her dark steamy bat cave.
 
2020-10-27 11:20:16 AM  
Hard time having a problem with this.
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2020-10-27 11:57:11 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Hard time having a problem with this.
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Just tell me she can act worth a damn.
 
2020-10-27 12:26:14 PM  

some_beer_drinker: why are they turning everyone black, gay or female? what's next?


Next TV Batman is going to be a transgender quadriplegic black Muslim midget.
But seriously they seem to be doing this to tick boxes on virtue signaling and identity politics instead of focusing on entertaining plot and good characters. Some gay/bisexual characters are great and it works well within the stories like John Constantine and White Canary, in other cases it seems like the show producers are patting themselves on the back for being amazingly progressive while forgetting it's a comics TV show for fans.
 
2020-10-27 12:42:40 PM  

some_beer_drinker: why are they turning everyone black, gay or female? what's next?


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2020-10-27 12:47:38 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Hard time having a problem with this.
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Phrasing?
 
2020-10-27 1:13:24 PM  

John the Magnificent: some_beer_drinker: why are they turning everyone black, gay or female? what's next?

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i'm ok with this actually
 
2020-10-27 1:40:10 PM  
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Next TV Batman is going to be a transgender quadriplegic black Muslim midget.
But seriously they seem to be doing this to tick boxes on virtue signaling and identity politics instead of focusing on entertaining plot and good characters. Some gay/bisexual characters are great and it works well within the stories like John Constantine and White Canary, in other cases it seems like the show producers are patting themselves on the back for being amazingly progressive while forgetting it's a comics TV show for fans.
 
2020-10-27 2:14:45 PM  

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: Jim_Callahan: felching pen: With that distinctive hair, the Batmask will be as effective at hiding identity as Clark Kent's glasses.

/Because tv superheroes have to be authentic and realistic in every detail.

It's a wig.

Like... diegetically, batwoman in the comics wears a wig as part of her disguise, distinct from her normal hair color, to make herself visually distinct from Batman, as without it they're both bulky people in black ballistic armor and a cape.

I forget what the character's actual hair color even is, but even if it's red the plot point makes the artists draw it as pretty distinctly artificial in costume, plus it's got the standard Batman stripper setup where if you yank on it it comes right off (see also: capes).

Admittedly, yes, this is still silly.

Silly, yes .But also a callback to sixties Batgirl.


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Who are those two completely different women who in no way resemble one another?
 
2020-10-27 2:20:48 PM  

TappingTheVein: some_beer_drinker: why are they turning everyone black, gay or female? what's next?

Next TV Batman is going to be a transgender quadriplegic black Muslim midget.
But seriously they seem to be doing this to tick boxes on virtue signaling and identity politics instead of focusing on entertaining plot and good characters. Some gay/bisexual characters are great and it works well within the stories like John Constantine and White Canary, in other cases it seems like the show producers are patting themselves on the back for being amazingly progressive while forgetting it's a comics TV show for fans.


Here's what you're saying, essentially: If it's important for the character, it's ok that they're black or gay or Muslim or whatever. If it's not important to the character, they should always default to being a white, straight, Christian man or woman.

Can't you see that attitude is part of the problem? If none of that is important to the character, why not make them a minority or transgendered or anything else? The world is a complex place. Let's reflect that in our media.
 
2020-10-27 2:33:59 PM  

Inaditch: Here's what you're saying, essentially: If it's important for the character, it's ok that they're black or gay or Muslim or whatever. If it's not important to the character, they should always default to being a white, straight, Christian man or woman.


No, that's what you wrongly claim I'm saying. Read my posts again.
I said they should place some of that virtue signaling energy on delivering better stories and characters so they won't have to cancel the show. Again.

Inaditch: Can't you see that attitude is part of the problem? If none of that is important to the character, why not make them a minority or transgendered or anything else? The world is a complex place. Let's reflect that in our media.


I see you're putting words in my mouth while ignoring my actual point. The world is indeed a complex place where sometimes people see things or want to see tnigs that don't actually exist.
 
2020-10-27 2:55:55 PM  

TappingTheVein: Inaditch: Here's what you're saying, essentially: If it's important for the character, it's ok that they're black or gay or Muslim or whatever. If it's not important to the character, they should always default to being a white, straight, Christian man or woman.

No, that's what you wrongly claim I'm saying. Read my posts again.
I said they should place some of that virtue signaling energy on delivering better stories and characters so they won't have to cancel the show. Again.

Inaditch: Can't you see that attitude is part of the problem? If none of that is important to the character, why not make them a minority or transgendered or anything else? The world is a complex place. Let's reflect that in our media.

I see you're putting words in my mouth while ignoring my actual point. The world is indeed a complex place where sometimes people see things or want to see tnigs that don't actually exist.

I understand your point. You're saying that producers should quit trying to show how woke they are and focus on making good shows. I get that.What you're missing is your implied assumption that a black/gay/transgendered/Muslim/midget actor is going to be inferior to a straight white male. The implication is that someone can't be black/gay/transgendered/Muslim/midget AND talented and right for the part.I'm suggesting that you're blind to your own bias. In our culture, straight white people (especially men) are the default and anything outside of that is an aberration, a risk. That needs to change.
 
2020-10-27 2:58:37 PM  

TappingTheVein: Inaditch: Here's what you're saying, essentially: If it's important for the character, it's ok that they're black or gay or Muslim or whatever. If it's not important to the character, they should always default to being a white, straight, Christian man or woman.

No, that's what you wrongly claim I'm saying. Read my posts again.
I said they should place some of that virtue signaling energy on delivering better stories and characters so they won't have to cancel the show. Again.

Inaditch: Can't you see that attitude is part of the problem? If none of that is important to the character, why not make them a minority or transgendered or anything else? The world is a complex place. Let's reflect that in our media.

I see you're putting words in my mouth while ignoring my actual point. The world is indeed a complex place where sometimes people see things or want to see tnigs that don't actually exist.


Also, I'm not putting words into your mouth. I'm sharing my interpretation of what you said.
 
2020-10-27 3:05:13 PM  
Well, that's ridiculous.
Good luck.
 
2020-10-27 3:05:27 PM  

Inaditch: What you're missing is your implied assumption that a black/gay/transgendered/Muslim/midget actor is going to be inferior to a straight white male.


No I'm not. Again, that's what you're wrongly claiming I'm saying. This is nothing about inferiority, read my posts again.

Inaditch: The implication is that someone can't be black/gay/transgendered/Muslim/midget AND talented and right for the part


Again, but that's not what I was saying. You can repeat it again and again, it's simply not true.

Inaditch: I'm suggesting that you're blind to your own bias


I'm saying you wrongly interpret what I actually said to match your own agenda.

Inaditch: Also, I'm not putting words into your mouth. I'm sharing my interpretation of what you said.


Then you're interpretation is wrong. What I said has nothing to do with what you claim, you are making shiat up. I hope this cleared things up.
 
2020-10-27 4:03:20 PM  

TappingTheVein: some_beer_drinker: why are they turning everyone black, gay or female? what's next?

Next TV Batman is going to be a transgender quadriplegic black Muslim midget.
But seriously they seem to be doing this to tick boxes on virtue signaling and identity politics instead of focusing on entertaining plot and good characters. Some gay/bisexual characters are great and it works well within the stories like John Constantine and White Canary, in other cases it seems like the show producers are patting themselves on the back for being amazingly progressive while forgetting it's a comics TV show for fans.


Well, modern versions of Batwoman have always been gay, just like Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn have been in love since "Harley and Ivy", if not before. It's not changing anything, even though the Berlanti-verse's politics are so aggressively progressive as to think Bernie is corporate sell-out.

Now, if they had randomly chosen a character that had been straight since the 60s and made him gay, not bi, out of the blue with no real foreshadowing and, in fact, had to be told he was gay by a psychic, now that would be silly.

/I'm looking at you, X-Men.
 
2020-10-27 4:21:31 PM  

luidprand: Well, modern versions of Batwoman have always been gay, just like Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn have been in love since "Harley and Ivy", if not before. It's not changing anything, even though the Berlanti-verse's politics are so aggressively progressive as to think Bernie is corporate sell-out.

Now, if they had randomly chosen a character that had been straight since the 60s and made him gay, not bi, out of the blue with no real foreshadowing and, in fact, had to be told he was gay by a psychic, now that would be silly.


There's nothing wrong with the character being gay, black or whatever. I just wish they put the effort they seem to be putting on virtue signaling and wokeness on good plot and decent characters. The first season was terrible and the fans left in droves. Judging by the PR going on as the link shows, I won't be surprised if they fark it up again.
 
2020-10-27 4:37:49 PM  

TappingTheVein: luidprand: Well, modern versions of Batwoman have always been gay, just like Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn have been in love since "Harley and Ivy", if not before. It's not changing anything, even though the Berlanti-verse's politics are so aggressively progressive as to think Bernie is corporate sell-out.

Now, if they had randomly chosen a character that had been straight since the 60s and made him gay, not bi, out of the blue with no real foreshadowing and, in fact, had to be told he was gay by a psychic, now that would be silly.

There's nothing wrong with the character being gay, black or whatever. I just wish they put the effort they seem to be putting on virtue signaling and wokeness on good plot and decent characters. The first season was terrible and the fans left in droves. Judging by the PR going on as the link shows, I won't be surprised if they fark it up again.


Being as nuanced and insufferably self-righteous as a freshman Trotskyite/college Republican is just part of the Berlanti-verse shows. If you can't take the virtue signaling, they aren't right for you.

/Even if Jon Cryer's Lex Luther is up there with Hamilton's Joker as one of the best DC villains.
//And LoT is one of the best shows on television right now.
///Like Farscape, without all the torture.
 
2020-10-27 5:30:49 PM  
Didn't we already have a "first look", just with the red wig that everyone complained about?
 
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