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2020-10-26 9:44:06 PM  
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2020-10-26 10:42:17 PM  
He could have worked to get better and fit into the squad and he fancy danned his way into the deep bench. He can take his riches and move elsewhere next summer.
 
2020-10-26 10:55:35 PM  
And last week, after Arsenal's captain, Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, tweeted in support of protests against police violence in Africa, the club issued its own statement. "To our Nigerian fans," it began. "We see you. We hear you. We feel

that your police definitely don't have enough money to cause us any problems."
 
2020-10-26 11:04:59 PM  
All he wants is just a little respect.
 
2020-10-26 11:10:28 PM  
Neglected to mention:  nice work, subby
 
2020-10-27 3:38:52 AM  
I don't know nearly enough about European soccer to have any sort of opinion about this dude. But the world's purposeful indifference to the Uighurs because market access is sickening.
 
2020-10-27 3:54:52 AM  
So ... he has disappointed for the last time.
 
2020-10-27 6:21:19 AM  

Cagey B: I don't know nearly enough about European soccer to have any sort of opinion about this dude. But the world's purposeful indifference to the Uighurs because market access is sickening.


In short: lots of talent, even more indifference. He's the definition of a win-more player, because he won't push the team to be better. He shows up and has a good match when the rest of the team is already doing well.

He's also a pretty big supporter of Erdogan. Invited him to his wedding.
 
2020-10-27 6:44:35 AM  
Saying he got shunted out of the team solely because of the Uighur comments is disingenuous though. Even the article admits that his playing time was unaffected at the time. Like plenty of people, it was affected by the pandemic wildly changing squad dynamics.
1 goal and 3 assists in 23 appearances wasn't going to cut it with a massive wage bill and not fitting into the new manager's game plan.
 
2020-10-27 8:50:19 AM  
It isn't the anti-China stance that caused him the problems.

It was his unflinching support of and relationship President Erdogan of Turkey. The China issue is a smoke screen to cover his support of a man who has racked up human rights violations that make Trump seem like a saint.
 
2020-10-27 9:06:39 AM  
Hell, let him come play in the MLS - he can tweet about China all he wants, and nobody will notice.
 
2020-10-27 9:32:20 AM  

Naido: And last week, after Arsenal's captain, Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, tweeted in support of protests against police violence in Africa, the club issued its own statement. "To our Nigerian fans," it began. "We see you. We hear you. We feel

that your police definitely don't have enough money to cause us any problems."


I was talking to a young Nigerian on Sunday after we played soccer together.  He was ranting and raving about the corruption in his country.  A crazy thing he told me (and no, I haven't fact-checked this at all, but will spread it anyway) is that police in Nigeria start at $30/month and that their Congressmen receive $40,000/month.  That's nuts.  I told him that they should do what we do - pay Congressmen an upper middle class salary and let them grift their way towards their millions.  Make them earn it through insider trading, payoffs, and expense account embezzlement.  You can't just give people all that money.  That's not the American way.
 
2020-10-27 10:41:06 AM  

FLMountainMan: Naido: And last week, after Arsenal's captain, Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, tweeted in support of protests against police violence in Africa, the club issued its own statement. "To our Nigerian fans," it began. "We see you. We hear you. We feel

that your police definitely don't have enough money to cause us any problems."

I was talking to a young Nigerian on Sunday after we played soccer together.  He was ranting and raving about the corruption in his country.  A crazy thing he told me (and no, I haven't fact-checked this at all, but will spread it anyway) is that police in Nigeria start at $30/month and that their Congressmen receive $40,000/month.  That's nuts.  I told him that they should do what we do - pay Congressmen an upper middle class salary and let them grift their way towards their millions.  Make them earn it through insider trading, payoffs, and expense account embezzlement.  You can't just give people all that money.  That's not the American way.


Politicians are just terrible at math. They busted an LA City Councilman not that long ago. The bribes were chump change considering the value of the real estate they were planning on developing. Like, a lot less than 10%. Pathetic.
 
2020-10-27 10:52:47 AM  

FLMountainMan: Naido: And last week, after Arsenal's captain, Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, tweeted in support of protests against police violence in Africa, the club issued its own statement. "To our Nigerian fans," it began. "We see you. We hear you. We feel

that your police definitely don't have enough money to cause us any problems."

I was talking to a young Nigerian on Sunday after we played soccer together.  He was ranting and raving about the corruption in his country.  A crazy thing he told me (and no, I haven't fact-checked this at all, but will spread it anyway) is that police in Nigeria start at $30/month and that their Congressmen receive $40,000/month.  That's nuts.  I told him that they should do what we do - pay Congressmen an upper middle class salary and let them grift their way towards their millions.  Make them earn it through insider trading, payoffs, and expense account embezzlement.  You can't just give people all that money.  That's not the American way.


As an observer of Nigerian politics, don't worry, they have American styles of grifting down to a science and then some.  The utility billing scheme grift is particularly mindbending.  Also, they are shiat at paying any of their security forces so you get all sorts of praetorianist promises.

Funny thing is that, it isn't pretty to a western perspective, prior to (and perhaps still) the recent protests, Nigeria has been getting better.  From a rather low baseline, but better.
 
2020-10-27 11:04:12 AM  

006andahalf: As an observer of Nigerian politics, don't worry, they have American styles of grifting down to a science and then some.  The utility billing scheme grift is particularly mindbending.  Also, they are shiat at paying any of their security forces so you get all sorts of praetorianist promises.

Funny thing is that, it isn't pretty to a western perspective, prior to (and perhaps still) the recent protests, Nigeria has been getting better.  From a rather low baseline, but better.


Yeah, I'm a casual follower as well.  Nigeria is poised to be the economic superpower of Africa.  They just need to shed the anchor of corruption first.  If they can fix that, they'll be able to keep a lot of their most valuable human capital from emigrating to the UK and US.  I'm hopeful.
 
2020-10-27 1:49:15 PM  
so why should it be?
 
2020-10-27 1:49:39 PM  
we have UCL thread in the works? I should check the queueue
 
2020-10-27 5:17:16 PM  
The talking heads thought he'd be the cure for their new world order, but he felt the squeeze and now he's just another soft cell like all the other pretenders who play for the human league now
 
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