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2020-10-26 9:41:45 PM  
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2020-10-26 10:35:18 PM  
OMG!! Infromation wants to be free as in beer!!! You corporate stooges! No copyrights!! It's not stealing if nothing physical is actually taken!!

/jerking_off_motion
 
2020-10-26 11:22:32 PM  
The makers of the film 'Angel Has Fallen' have filed a lawsuit against seventeen alleged pirates.

I think the lawyers chose this movie just for the extra humiliation.

"Hey buddy, I hear you're in some legal trouble, what for?"
"Um, stealing the movie . ." *covers mouth with hand and mumbles*
 
2020-10-27 12:02:54 AM  
'You're using a VPN so you must be doing something illegal."

Yes, and go fark yourself with this fishing expedition. What I do is none of your business.
 
2020-10-27 12:31:45 AM  
Jeeze.  Lawsuit and you have to admit you downloaded that movie.

Kick em while they're down.
 
2020-10-27 12:53:03 AM  
Hehehehe...I'm signing up with my bosses email.
 
2020-10-27 1:16:23 AM  

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I am a pirate. I was anyhow when I had bandwidth other than dial up. I would get all kinds of tv shows and movies.
I would watch them.
Then, I would often buy the actual media.
I found , as an example, the Trailer Park Boys that way, by watching it on Justin TV ( parent of twitch ).
I laughed a lot at the show. I was so happy to find a set of the dvds that had the Conky finger puppet.
It has been the same with a ton of music,
and thanks to my being a pirate- when I worked for a company we had win98 to use when we were adopting a whole bunch of stuff , because the bastards did not want to pay for the ( i forget the term ) microsoft designer thing so we would have it to beta test for free and real before we deployed a whole new suite of stuff centered on Notes.
Oh, we did end up paying for every single thing, because we got a new CIO who gave a fark.

I forgot what my point was.

Oh- I have bought about ( at least ) 5 copies of every record, tape and cd I have owned, so no- I do not feel bad if I find a version that I can easily just d/l for a ringtone, for free I also buy the artists shirts and stuff at gigs.
 
2020-10-27 1:17:55 AM  

Tchernobog: Jeeze.  Lawsuit and you have to admit you downloaded that movie.

Kick em while they're down.


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Damn it Warren.  Of course, he probably downloaded it for his girlfriend.
 
2020-10-27 1:19:59 AM  
I thought it was un-actionable to prosecute anyone who dloaded the stuff. That it was only illegal if you stored it or shared it out.

It seemed that way back in the Limewire days anyway. Maybe the times have changed.
 
2020-10-27 1:23:08 AM  
Surely if they wanted money they would start by not investing in "angel has fallen"
 
2020-10-27 2:03:16 AM  

saturn badger: I thought it was un-actionable to prosecute anyone who dloaded the stuff. That it was only illegal if you stored it or shared it out.

It seemed that way back in the Limewire days anyway. Maybe the times have changed.


That is correct, individual piracy is infringement not theft and isn't considered a criminal matter so they can't really prosecute anyone for it.

But the people in TFA aren't being prosecuted, they're being sued.  Well they're trying to sue them, anyway, if they can link their e-mail addresses with an actual name.

I wanted to ask how someone could be aware enough to use a VPN yet stupid enough to create a login with their own e-mail address on a goddam torrent site, but then I saw what movie they had downloaded and that pretty much answered my question.

I actually have an account with PIA.  It's not currently active but I'm tempted to re-sub and then download this movie just to mess with them.
 
2020-10-27 2:45:34 AM  

Neondistraction: saturn badger: I thought it was un-actionable to prosecute anyone who dloaded the stuff. That it was only illegal if you stored it or shared it out.

It seemed that way back in the Limewire days anyway. Maybe the times have changed.

That is correct, individual piracy is infringement not theft and isn't considered a criminal matter so they can't really prosecute anyone for it.

But the people in TFA aren't being prosecuted, they're being sued.  Well they're trying to sue them, anyway, if they can link their e-mail addresses with an actual name.

I wanted to ask how someone could be aware enough to use a VPN yet stupid enough to create a login with their own e-mail address on a goddam torrent site, but then I saw what movie they had downloaded and that pretty much answered my question.

I actually have an account with PIA.  It's not currently active but I'm tempted to re-sub and then download this movie just to mess with them.


This sounds like a cash grab for the attorneys. Sue for the value of a dvd, plus outrageous legal expenses. Payday!
 
2020-10-27 2:56:09 AM  

saturn badger: I thought it was un-actionable to prosecute anyone who dloaded the stuff. That it was only illegal if you stored it or shared it out.

It seemed that way back in the Limewire days anyway. Maybe the times have changed.


It's more of a deterrent. Likely nothing will come of this except some lawyers getting their hourly fee but the story gets published and enough rando's with no idea how anything actually works see it and don't pirate something later if given the opportunity out of fear of reprisal.

Also more proof that companies going after pirates is more about the audacity than the money. It absolutely must be costing more to combat piracy than they lose in sales. Which were never sales to begin with, so were never lost, but that's a whole other discussion. The entire anti-piracy agenda is just corporations waving their dicks around lest you forget that they own everything.
 
2020-10-27 3:08:04 AM  
All defendants are accused of downloading a torrent titled "Angel Has Fallen (2019) [BluRay] [720p] [YTS.LT],"


To be caught while using a VPN is bad

To be caught visiting YTS is worse

To be caught downloading something in 720p is unforgivable
 
2020-10-27 3:08:52 AM  

fastfxr: 'You're using a VPN so you must be doing something illegal."

Yes, and go fark yourself with this fishing expedition. What I do is none of your business.


But you aren't important enough for anyone to care.
 
2020-10-27 7:02:53 AM  

American Decency Association: To be caught downloading something in 720p is unforgivable


720p is what all cable and satellite TV is delivered in. It's plenty for comedies, dramas and most documentary or news content. I wouldn't go out of my way to get 1080p or 4k for anything with unremarkable cinematography or special effects.

I'd also rather have high bit rates than low, but YTS downloads are typically  ~1500kbps, and that's a bigger problem than the resolution.
 
2020-10-27 8:43:24 AM  

saturn badger: I thought it was un-actionable to prosecute anyone who dloaded the stuff. That it was only illegal if you stored it or shared it out.

It seemed that way back in the Limewire days anyway. Maybe the times have changed.


The problem is that the way torrenting works is that as you download you are simultaneously sharing the parts you have already downloaded. So that's where they get you on the sharing.
 
2020-10-27 9:37:41 AM  

American Decency Association: All defendants are accused of downloading a torrent titled "Angel Has Fallen (2019) [BluRay] [720p] [YTS.LT],"


To be caught while using a VPN is bad

To be caught visiting YTS is worse

To be caught downloading something in 720p is unforgivable


Also, the audio track was only 2 channel stereo.


The notion of only using VPN for piracy is idiotic. I live in Kentucky but my phone is almost always reporting itself as being on a New York IP address. Why? Because fark you, that's why.

/My home computer is often in Chicago.
//Unless I want to watch something on a streaming service that is not normally available in the United States.
 
2020-10-27 9:38:33 AM  

likefunbutnot: 720p is what all cable and satellite TV is delivered in. It's plenty for comedies, dramas and most documentary or news content. I wouldn't go out of my way to get 1080p or 4k for anything with unremarkable cinematography or special effects.


...something, something, certain type of fetish porn, something...
 
2020-10-27 10:34:19 AM  
most sites I am on I sign up with 10 minute email - good luck tracking that back from logs 5 or 6 years ago.

Proton email - good luck getting the Swiss to give me up - oh signed up for that with a fake email too - good luck
 
2020-10-27 10:36:08 AM  
Who pirates movies anymore? Streaming services are cheap, and there is plenty of new content available. If you absolutely need to watch something, torrenting is inefficient and, as the thread shows, it leaves you vulnerable to getting sued or getting in trouble with your ISP.

To watch a new movie,there's always something that rhymes with Mutt Shocker.
 
2020-10-27 10:48:22 AM  
Torrenting is illegal.  Watching content on free streaming video websites is not.

However, the ads they run on those sites will give your computer cancer.  A good adblocker is a must.
 
2020-10-27 11:00:42 AM  

BorgiaGinz: Who pirates movies anymore? Streaming services are cheap, and there is plenty of new content available.


Netflix and Amazon quality blows, especially if you have expectations of watching in 4k. Pirate encodes of BD rips that preserve the 7.1 DTS-HD soundtrack and offer double (or more) the bit rate of the streaming version are fairly easy to find.

On the other side of things, relatively few movies and TV shows are available to stream at any point in time. My home library has things like Herman's Head, the Carol Burnett show and the AFI top 100 films from every decade since 1950.  How many movies made prior to 1990 do are even available on streaming services?
 
2020-10-27 11:08:42 AM  

Dimensio: American Decency Association: All defendants are accused of downloading a torrent titled "Angel Has Fallen (2019) [BluRay] [720p] [YTS.LT],"


To be caught while using a VPN is bad

To be caught visiting YTS is worse

To be caught downloading something in 720p is unforgivable

Also, the audio track was only 2 channel stereo.


The notion of only using VPN for piracy is idiotic. I live in Kentucky but my phone is almost always reporting itself as being on a New York IP address. Why? Because fark you, that's why.

/My home computer is often in Chicago.
//Unless I want to watch something on a streaming service that is not normally available in the United States.


Are you running your VPN all the time or is there a way to do that I am missing because I am an idiot when it comes to VPN programs?
 
2020-10-27 11:31:10 AM  

APO_Buddha: Are you running your VPN all the time or is there a way to do that I am missing because I am an idiot when it comes to VPN programs?


It depends on the client. Personally, I have a dedicated system for VPN activity, but some clients allow to scope specific applications for network traffic or only for specific routes.
 
2020-10-27 12:23:25 PM  

American Decency Association: All defendants are accused of downloading a torrent titled "Angel Has Fallen (2019) [BluRay] [720p] [YTS.LT],"


To be caught while using a VPN is bad

To be caught visiting YTS is worse

To be caught downloading something in 720p is unforgivable


Always use a good VPN.

YTS is fine for films you will watch once...especially on a smaller display. Besides, a good codec will give you a perfectly acceptable picture (and often better than the streaming version)YIFY is useful when you have limited space, slow internet. If you just want to enjoy a movie without getting too much into technical aspects of it, then YIFY is for you. If you want 7.1 ..look elsewhere.

Ditto for 720P.

Physical media for the win for the movies you love however.
 
2020-10-27 12:25:06 PM  

likefunbutnot: BorgiaGinz: Who pirates movies anymore? Streaming services are cheap, and there is plenty of new content available.

Netflix and Amazon quality blows, especially if you have expectations of watching in 4k. Pirate encodes of BD rips that preserve the 7.1 DTS-HD soundtrack and offer double (or more) the bit rate of the streaming version are fairly easy to find.

On the other side of things, relatively few movies and TV shows are available to stream at any point in time. My home library has things like Herman's Head, the Carol Burnett show and the AFI top 100 films from every decade since 1950.  How many movies made prior to 1990 do are even available on streaming services?


Both great points, which is why I have around 3,500 DVDs/Blus so that I can watch what I want when I want.
 
2020-10-27 12:32:16 PM  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Rp-​u​o6HmI&feature=youtu.be

This is a cool short video if you don't know what bitrate is
 
2020-10-27 12:33:48 PM  
 
2020-10-27 12:41:45 PM  

Naido: The makers of the film 'Angel Has Fallen' have filed a lawsuit against seventeen alleged pirates.

I think the lawyers chose this movie just for the extra humiliation.

"Hey buddy, I hear you're in some legal trouble, what for?"
"Um, stealing the movie . ." *covers mouth with hand and mumbles*


The last big mass bittorrent lawsuit was for Nude Nuns with Big Guns. Explain that one to mom.

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2020-10-27 12:46:13 PM  

Tax Boy: Naido: The makers of the film 'Angel Has Fallen' have filed a lawsuit against seventeen alleged pirates.

I think the lawyers chose this movie just for the extra humiliation.

"Hey buddy, I hear you're in some legal trouble, what for?"
"Um, stealing the movie . ." *covers mouth with hand and mumbles*

The last big mass bittorrent lawsuit was for Nude Nuns with Big Guns. Explain that one to mom.

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"tis like hamlet"
 
2020-10-27 12:55:40 PM  

BorgiaGinz: likefunbutnot: BorgiaGinz: Who pirates movies anymore? Streaming services are cheap, and there is plenty of new content available.

Netflix and Amazon quality blows, especially if you have expectations of watching in 4k. Pirate encodes of BD rips that preserve the 7.1 DTS-HD soundtrack and offer double (or more) the bit rate of the streaming version are fairly easy to find.

On the other side of things, relatively few movies and TV shows are available to stream at any point in time. My home library has things like Herman's Head, the Carol Burnett show and the AFI top 100 films from every decade since 1950.  How many movies made prior to 1990 do are even available on streaming services?

Both great points, which is why I have around 3,500 DVDs/Blus so that I can watch what I want when I want.


In the early 2000s I used 3x 400 DVD changers but once 1TB hard drives were $100, I ripped everything and have never played a movie from a disc since.

I used an OG PlayStation 3 to rip my SACDs and DVD-Audio discs as well.

I have a couple file servers in my back bedroom that have about 300TB of addressable storage and it's all hooked in to a MySQL-backed Kodi setup and Plex for remote access needs. I do buy some media but at point, it's more likely classical music on CD than anything else. Disney and Universal hardly need my money but the musicians and podcasters I support directly definitely do.
 
2020-10-27 1:12:18 PM  
I use my central server and Plex to stream most of the things I like, but for things of a really high quality I either use a physical media disc or I have a drive that's connected directly to my oppo 203, which yields a much Superior picture to the Roku with plex. Oppo made the best goddamn blu-ray players ever.
 
2020-10-27 1:43:12 PM  

likefunbutnot: I have a couple file servers in my back bedroom that have about 300TB of addressable storage


That's a lot of porn.
 
2020-10-27 1:46:41 PM  

Tax Boy: That's a lot of porn.


It's only about half porn.  The machine is literally named Porn.

cocozilla: Oppo made the best goddamn blu-ray players ever.


I have an Oppo player for SACDs. It probably does other things but that's the only one I care about.
 
2020-10-27 2:57:21 PM  

likefunbutnot: BorgiaGinz: likefunbutnot: BorgiaGinz: Who pirates movies anymore? Streaming services are cheap, and there is plenty of new content available.

Netflix and Amazon quality blows, especially if you have expectations of watching in 4k. Pirate encodes of BD rips that preserve the 7.1 DTS-HD soundtrack and offer double (or more) the bit rate of the streaming version are fairly easy to find.

On the other side of things, relatively few movies and TV shows are available to stream at any point in time. My home library has things like Herman's Head, the Carol Burnett show and the AFI top 100 films from every decade since 1950.  How many movies made prior to 1990 do are even available on streaming services?

Both great points, which is why I have around 3,500 DVDs/Blus so that I can watch what I want when I want.

In the early 2000s I used 3x 400 DVD changers but once 1TB hard drives were $100, I ripped everything and have never played a movie from a disc since.

I used an OG PlayStation 3 to rip my SACDs and DVD-Audio discs as well.

I have a couple file servers in my back bedroom that have about 300TB of addressable storage and it's all hooked in to a MySQL-backed Kodi setup and Plex for remote access needs. I do buy some media but at point, it's more likely classical music on CD than anything else. Disney and Universal hardly need my money but the musicians and podcasters I support directly definitely do.


cocozilla: I use my central server and Plex to stream most of the things I like, but for things of a really high quality I either use a physical media disc or I have a drive that's connected directly to my oppo 203, which yields a much Superior picture to the Roku with plex. Oppo made the best goddamn blu-ray players ever.


If either of you (or anyone else) is willing to add me to your list so I can access your Plex server, I will owe you in karma points and beer. Both amounts to be named at a time after COVID.
 
2020-10-27 3:20:17 PM  
The VPN provider didn't sell out the 'users', the website provided a list of user accounts, login times, and EMAIL addresses.

Uhm, who has an account with their real email address at torrent sites? Are there people that dumb?
 
2020-10-27 4:03:55 PM  

APO_Buddha: so I can access your Plex server,


I think most people would say a Plex Server is a friends and family deal.
 
2020-10-27 4:27:12 PM  

likefunbutnot: APO_Buddha: so I can access your Plex server,

I think most people would say a Plex Server is a friends and family deal.


Totally fair. Thought I would ask, but I respect the 'friends and family only.'
 
2020-10-27 5:32:52 PM  

BorgiaGinz: Who pirates movies anymore? Streaming services are cheap, and there is plenty of new content available. If you absolutely need to watch something, torrenting is inefficient and, as the thread shows, it leaves you vulnerable to getting sued or getting in trouble with your ISP.

To watch a new movie,there's always something that rhymes with Mutt Shocker.


I pirate stuff that is unavailable for purchase. If it becomes available then I buy a copy and dump the usually inferior download.
 
2020-10-27 5:46:49 PM  

gopher321: [Fark user image image 674x514]


Or move to Canada
 
2020-10-27 5:53:50 PM  

likefunbutnot: Tax Boy: That's a lot of porn.

It's only about half porn.  The machine is literally named Porn.

cocozilla: Oppo made the best goddamn blu-ray players ever.

I have an Oppo player for SACDs. It probably does other things but that's the only one I care about.


I still have my Oppo upscaling DVD player.
Haven't used it in a decade though...
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2020-10-27 6:00:46 PM  

rikkards: likefunbutnot: Tax Boy: That's a lot of porn.

It's only about half porn.  The machine is literally named Porn.

cocozilla: Oppo made the best goddamn blu-ray players ever.

I have an Oppo player for SACDs. It probably does other things but that's the only one I care about.

I still have my Oppo upscaling DVD player.
Haven't used it in a decade though...
[Fark user image image 425x239]


The 981! Quite literally mine died on Sunday finally... That was the best regular DVD player ever made. If you ever want to sell it let me know 😁
 
2020-10-27 6:21:24 PM  

cocozilla: rikkards: likefunbutnot: Tax Boy: That's a lot of porn.

It's only about half porn.  The machine is literally named Porn.

cocozilla: Oppo made the best goddamn blu-ray players ever.

I have an Oppo player for SACDs. It probably does other things but that's the only one I care about.

I still have my Oppo upscaling DVD player.
Haven't used it in a decade though...
[Fark user image image 425x239]

The 981! Quite literally mine died on Sunday finally... That was the best regular DVD player ever made. If you ever want to sell it let me know 😁


Lol I farkied you as such if I do :)
 
2020-10-28 6:42:45 AM  

APO_Buddha: Are you running your VPN all the time or is there a way to do that I am missing because I am an idiot when it comes to VPN programs?


hey buddha, not sure what the crux of your question is?

i have a PC and turn the VPN on when i need and off otherwise.

having it on 24/27 costs a downgrade to your bandwidth and a hit on your latency.

it can also cause problems with local delivery companies etc.
 
2020-10-28 9:47:50 AM  

American Decency Association: APO_Buddha: Are you running your VPN all the time or is there a way to do that I am missing because I am an idiot when it comes to VPN programs?

hey buddha, not sure what the crux of your question is?

i have a PC and turn the VPN on when i need and off otherwise.

having it on 24/27 costs a downgrade to your bandwidth and a hit on your latency.

it can also cause problems with local delivery companies etc.


With the way the conversation was going, I wasn't sure if there was a magic trick with using the VPN that I was missing. Turns out I was just tired.

But thanks for the follow-up and clarification
 
2020-10-28 10:33:19 AM  

American Decency Association: having it on 24/27 costs a downgrade to your bandwidth and a hit on your latency.


A worthwhile solution is to dedicate a system or a virtual machine to your VPN needs and conduct your nefarious VPN business through that. Especially if you're dealing with torrents.
 
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