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(CNBC)   Experts warning of impending exponential spread of Covid across US. Or in terms the US can grasp, it gonna get real bad, yo   (cnbc.com) divider line
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2020-10-26 10:43:30 AM  
30 votes:
I should buy some toilet paper.
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2020-10-26 11:00:08 AM  
10 votes:

Shaggy_C: If only we had good, socialist governments like in Europe instead of shiatty leadership like Trump. Then our curve would look--

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Oh...


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'Socialism'
 
2020-10-26 10:58:28 AM  
10 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: Trump is tired of COVID.  It simply does not respond to threats or intimidation or harsh language.


It's simply unfair - and I mean no one had ever been treated worse - it's just absolutely wrong for Covid to not use a private email server.
 
2020-10-26 10:57:47 AM  
10 votes:
Don't worry, it will go away with the heat in April.
 
2020-10-26 10:58:39 AM  
8 votes:
If only we had good, socialist governments like in Europe instead of shiatty leadership like Trump. Then our curve would look--

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Oh...
 
2020-10-26 2:09:17 PM  
7 votes:

Surrender your boo-tah: Shaggy_C: If only we had good, socialist governments like in Europe instead of shiatty leadership like Trump. Then our curve would look--

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Oh...

Hey, in a month when I show this graph to you will you admit to being wrong and vote straight D the rest of your life?

Further, I'm a liberal and not very bright, what actions did Trump take to slow the spread?


I remember Trump limitng travel from China. And Biden called him a xenophobe for it. The fact that Biden was more interested in scoring political points than he was with stopping the spread and was willing to sacrifice my life and the lives of all Americans tells me everything I need to know about Biden.
 
2020-10-26 2:35:51 PM  
6 votes:

eurotrader: Republicans announcing that they don't care if people live or die and crashing the economy is their goal. Republicans not even voting on Covid relief shows they want the US to burn. Republicans truly are POS.


Nancy Pelosi is the sole reason there hasn't been another stimulus. Too much grift for Dems states that were broke well before the pandemic.
 
2020-10-26 12:17:50 PM  
6 votes:

weddingsinger: wheresmypen: Shaggy_C: If only we had good, socialist governments like in Europe instead of shiatty leadership like Trump. Then our curve would look--

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Oh...

So we're about two weeks behind.

Great.

Probably not even.  More like just a few days behind.  The U.shiat 80,000+ daily cases now and many areas are reporting well beyond the 5% test positive rate that suggests we are not catching anywhere near all the cases.

This is suggested both by the SHARP rise in deaths the past few days and the poop checking method.  By checking samples at sewage treatment they can see how the population at large is fairing.

Boston, for example, looks a lot like it did in the spring when things got very bad.

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2020-10-26 11:21:25 AM  
6 votes:
well the usa's taking its role as the control group really seriously.
 
2020-10-26 11:16:07 AM  
5 votes:
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2020-10-26 11:09:35 AM  
5 votes:

west.la.lawyer: This is a hoax - this is just to scare us into voting our morals and conscience


It's a conspiracy by Big Mask.
 
2020-10-26 12:46:04 PM  
4 votes:
Our best hope was COVID killing Trump.  His survival was a big blow to our chances to survive.  Even the election won't matter, as we'll hit 500,000 dead before Biden takes over in January.

Elections have consequences.  And there aren't any abortions if the mom dies first.
 
2020-10-26 12:23:52 PM  
4 votes:

weddingsinger: AdmirableSnackbar: weddingsinger: wheresmypen: Shaggy_C: If only we had good, socialist governments like in Europe instead of shiatty leadership like Trump. Then our curve would look--

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Oh...

So we're about two weeks behind.

Great.

Probably not even.  More like just a few days behind.  The U.shiat 80,000+ daily cases now and many areas are reporting well beyond the 5% test positive rate that suggests we are not catching anywhere near all the cases.

This is suggested both by the SHARP rise in deaths the past few days and the poop checking method.  By checking samples at sewage treatment they can see how the population at large is fairing.

Boston, for example, looks a lot like it did in the spring when things got very bad.

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I've been shot!

𝅘𝅥𝅮 Check the pooooooooooo!𝅘𝅥𝅮


Our number one concern is your number two.
 
2020-10-26 11:21:43 AM  
4 votes:

SurelyShirley: Shaggy_C: If only we had good, socialist governments like in Europe instead of shiatty leadership like Trump. Then our curve would look--

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Oh...

The EU is testing more.


Well, that's where they farked up.
 
2020-10-26 11:18:13 AM  
4 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: Ambivalence: And the federally government has officially declared it has no interest in stopping it.

Trump is tired of COVID.  It simply does not respond to threats or intimidation or harsh language.  So there's simply no way to fight it.  You understand how it is.  They tried nothing, and they're out of ideas.


He still has a few tricks left, like suing it or refusing to pay.

You know what, never mind.  I can see it now: "CMS Announces It Will No Longer Reimburse Providers And Facilities For Testing And Treatment Of COVID-19. Stonks Soar On News."
 
2020-10-26 11:08:28 AM  
4 votes:
This is a hoax - this is just to scare us into voting our morals and conscience
 
2020-10-26 11:07:32 AM  
4 votes:
Personally I would like to see the percentage of people testing positive as opposed to a number.  Testing is more common and faster than even 6 weeks ago.  I know 12 people tested in the last 10 days that got tested simply because they finally could.

Numbers are arbitrary and can be manipulated to support the narrative you want to tell.  Percentage of tested vs. positive paints a much more accurate picture.  The article states percentage rise in cases but missed stating percentage of people being tested that are positive.
 
2020-10-26 11:04:35 AM  
4 votes:
Note: This is not a repeat from April, May, June, July, August or September...
 
2020-10-26 10:38:14 AM  
4 votes:
Go Team Virus!
 
2020-10-26 2:50:46 PM  
3 votes:

Froman: geggam: Froman: Crazy Lee: Ambivalence: And the federal government has officially declared it has no interest in stopping it.

And  the federal government Trump Administration has officially declared it has no interest in utilizing those Federal Resources at their disposal in stopping it.

/just a little more precise

Political pseudo-intellectuals will cry about how this is a perfect example of how terrible government is at everything and that it has failed on every level. Well, that's what happens when you either voted directly for or were OK with a ruthless mobbed up notorious celebrity "business" man who never held public office taking over the executive branch and staffing it with his sycophants and crime partners. It was clear that Trump was the anti-government president. Drain the swamp. Dismantle the administrative state. Disable our regulatory agencies. Fire literally everyone not working directly for the enrichment of America's industrial leaders.

For everyone who thinks they're so SMRT because they hate government and don't trust it, here is a preview of your world. But if you are truly OK with Amazon, Facebook, ExxonMobil, Canadian mining conglomerates, and Big Ag deciding your fate with no ability for you to vote(because what are you gonna do, stop using your computer, stop buying things you want, and stop eating?) then I won't argue. You do you.

Sort of curious what you think a govt can do to protect you ?

You can stay home... You can wear a mask... You can socially distance.

Do you need a babysitter to tell you what to do ?

Not even sure I can dignify this with a response. If at this point you can't see how this can only be fought on the collective level you're pretty hopeless and failed as a human. I remember one guy who was so offended by the concept that wearing a mask was not about him but protecting others that he went ballistic.

I suppose you'll also tell me that only thing stopping Purdue Pharma from killing middle America with opioids wa ...


If every individual took personal responsibility the collective would be fine.  This idea you need to be told what to do is infantile 

Fix your own house before you worry about others.
 
2020-10-26 2:29:07 PM  
3 votes:

Froman: Crazy Lee: Ambivalence: And the federal government has officially declared it has no interest in stopping it.

And  the federal government Trump Administration has officially declared it has no interest in utilizing those Federal Resources at their disposal in stopping it.

/just a little more precise

Political pseudo-intellectuals will cry about how this is a perfect example of how terrible government is at everything and that it has failed on every level. Well, that's what happens when you either voted directly for or were OK with a ruthless mobbed up notorious celebrity "business" man who never held public office taking over the executive branch and staffing it with his sycophants and crime partners. It was clear that Trump was the anti-government president. Drain the swamp. Dismantle the administrative state. Disable our regulatory agencies. Fire literally everyone not working directly for the enrichment of America's industrial leaders.

For everyone who thinks they're so SMRT because they hate government and don't trust it, here is a preview of your world. But if you are truly OK with Amazon, Facebook, ExxonMobil, Canadian mining conglomerates, and Big Ag deciding your fate with no ability for you to vote(because what are you gonna do, stop using your computer, stop buying things you want, and stop eating?) then I won't argue. You do you.


Sort of curious what you think a govt can do to protect you ? 

You can stay home... You can wear a mask... You can socially distance. 

Do you need a babysitter to tell you what to do ?
 
2020-10-26 11:49:36 AM  
3 votes:

doctorguilty: TheSubjunctive: [Fark user image 500x253]

I wish I could say confidently where we are on this chart.

The second tick, I fear.


Great, now there's ticks too?
 
2020-10-26 11:33:45 AM  
3 votes:

SurelyShirley: Shaggy_C: dkulprit: It's not only that, but the European union has more than twice the amount of people.  So per capita, they're still lower....

EU has 513 million (if you count the UK still.) The USA has 330 million. Not quite 'twice.'

SurelyShirley: The EU is testing more.

Compared to March, yes. The UK has one of the highest excess deaths in the world, for instance, but even at the March peak they were recording extremely small numbers because they couldn't test more than a few thousand people a day. Even now there are hours-long queues to get tests around the country. The USA is still testing many more people per capita AFAIK.

Ok, so now it's "per capita", got it. Careful with those goal posts, they might hurt your back.


Statistical analysis has a well known liberal bias.
 
2020-10-26 11:18:34 AM  
3 votes:

Tr0mBoNe: AdmirableSnackbar: TheSubjunctive: [Fark user image 500x253]

I wish I could say confidently where we are on this chart.

We never had that first downslope, it's possible we're still just approaching that first peak.

The ocean does not recede completely between each wave.. the US is on wave #3 and Europe (minus Sweden) is on wave #2. I think we're beyond comparing this one to 1918.. we're in uncharted waters in terms of modern medical emergencies.


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2020-10-26 11:16:06 AM  
3 votes:

Jack Sabbath: Shaggy_C: If only we had good, socialist governments like in Europe instead of shiatty leadership like Trump. Then our curve would look--

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Oh...

Well, that's their second wave, which was expected.  We're still on our first, and the inevitable second wave is going to pile right on top of it, especially with Dotard holding his superspreader rallies and millions of Americans being steadfast in their stupidity.

Just in time for the holidays, family members are gonna die!


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2020-10-26 11:12:33 AM  
3 votes:

40 degree day: I'm pretty sure what this graph proves is that a weak and decentralized response doesn't work.


That's a bit of a red herring; countries in the EU have full autonomy to control their health and borders in ways not available to states under the American federal system. So you can't make a direct comparison between the two.

CarnySaur: So it looks like we're going to be spiking like that imminently, followed by yet another wave that they didn't get.  Great.


Depends. I feel as though Europe opened up far more quickly and broadly than the USA has. The USA never really shut down, whereas many European states went into full lockdown. That is why numbers were suppressed as much as they were, but then Europe turned around and started allowing maskless shopping and clubbing and all the rest so as to get back the summer holiday season. So, not unexpected that there would be a spike in Europe, but what is surprising is just how big it is. In the USA, shutdowns were light, but mask rules and social distancing have continued more generally. Americans didn't get the 'hop on a plane and go for a cheap and cheerful weekend in Mallorca' summer because the virus was still raging too badly. That high case count in the summer may actually prevent a spike in the fall.

Thanksgiving, however...
 
2020-10-26 10:59:27 AM  
3 votes:
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2020-10-26 10:58:47 AM  
3 votes:

Walker: Don't worry, it will go away with the heat in April.


So the police are being defunded?

/ba-dum, ching
 
2020-10-26 4:49:14 PM  
2 votes:

Myrdinn: Optimus Primate: The current USA trajectory for re-opening will not deviate unless the death toll starts getting so big that the Republicans can no longer ignore it. This is a fact.

Not even then.
We are pretty much past the "...can no longer ignore it."
The rich hath spoken, the worker class shall suffer, and the Morlocks shall inherit the warning sirens.


I agree in principle, but I think there is a "tipping point" (where bodies start getting stacked like cord wood, etc) that even the most ardent Republican cannot ignore.
 
2020-10-26 3:13:40 PM  
2 votes:

AwfulObject: Let's start with an actual shut-down. One that looks like Canada or Germany. Two weeks - only essential personnel. No wiggle room, government shores up everyone Canada style everybody gets money.

Then robust testing and tracking so you can have a control on where you allocate resource you can be more effective in your usage of PPE and manpower; and I'd utilize the national stockpile and DPA to shore up access to badly needed resources.

I would have had thermal scanners installed at every major airport and probably at major food processing facilities.  There's no reason that these people should be in peril every time they go to work. International flights shut down totally until we get a handle on transmission.

Ease restrictions, keep tracking and tracing, button down locally during flare-ups until a medical solution surfaces. Sure, it would cost a lot of money - but so will a million or so dead people and thrice as much with possibly permanent disability.


OK 

I have been in airports... they are really devoid of people so your impact isnt going to be as big as you think 

Tracking and tracing does what  ? tells you who is sick it does nothing to stop the spread. 

You  have a bug that hops into cats and dogs... probably rats. 

How are you addressing those vectors without a complete shutdown which will in fact kill more people than this bug is capable of. 

The govt printing machine cannot print that much money and keep inflation from going off the rails. 

Next idea ?
 
2020-10-26 3:07:56 PM  
2 votes:
Tman144:

How does staying at home pay my rent?

Suppose you had been living inside your means and saved ? Maybe not bought so much on credit... listened to your granny who lived thru the depression ? 

Where would you be now ?
 
2020-10-26 11:46:42 AM  
2 votes:
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2020-10-26 11:30:19 AM  
2 votes:
This is what comes of allowing right wingers political power. Take it all away, because your lives and the lives of your loved ones depend on it. Disenfranchise the right wing.
 
2020-10-26 11:23:03 AM  
2 votes:

Shaggy_C: If only we had good, socialist governments like in Europe instead of shiatty leadership like Trump. Then our curve would look--

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Oh...


Keep in mind the population of Europe is more than twice that of the US (740 millionish vs 330 millionish), so what that means is they are just now getting as bad as we are, after many months of being much better than us.
 
2020-10-26 11:23:01 AM  
2 votes:

dkulprit: BizarreMan: 40 degree day: Shaggy_C: If only we had good, socialist governments like in Europe instead of shiatty leadership like Trump. Then our curve would look--

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Oh...

I'm pretty sure what this graph proves is that a weak and decentralized response doesn't work.

I would like to see a breakdown by country or response type.  I'm confident that there is at least one country that isn't doing squat which is skewing the data for the overall line on the graph.

It's not only that, but the European union has more than twice the amount of people.  So per capita, they're still lower....


Depending on which per capita you use.
 
2020-10-26 11:19:50 AM  
2 votes:

NewportBarGuy: Might be time to steal a yacht and flee to a small pacific island.


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2020-10-26 11:14:42 AM  
2 votes:

Jack Sabbath: Just in time for the holidays, family members are gonna die!


Schools go to in-person in November, the kids infect their grandparents at Thanksgiving, and then they get to attend their funerals at Christmas.

2020 will not end on a high note.
 
2020-10-26 11:14:33 AM  
2 votes:

Shaggy_C: If only we had good, socialist governments like in Europe instead of shiatty leadership like Trump. Then our curve would look--

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Oh...


The EU is testing more.
 
2020-10-26 11:11:47 AM  
2 votes:

Olliewog: Personally I would like to see the percentage of people testing positive as opposed to a number.  Testing is more common and faster than even 6 weeks ago.  I know 12 people tested in the last 10 days that got tested simply because they finally could.

Numbers are arbitrary and can be manipulated to support the narrative you want to tell.  Percentage of tested vs. positive paints a much more accurate picture.  The article states percentage rise in cases but missed stating percentage of people being tested that are positive.


You want the Rt stuff here https://rt.live
 
2020-10-26 11:01:53 AM  
2 votes:
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2020-10-26 10:57:40 AM  
2 votes:
But I heard that the virus will be taking Thanksgiving off, so that's a relief.
 
2020-10-26 10:47:20 AM  
2 votes:
Republicans announcing that they don't care if people live or die and crashing the economy is their goal. Republicans not even voting on Covid relief shows they want the US to burn. Republicans truly are POS.
 
2020-10-26 6:42:16 PM  
1 vote:

NewportBarGuy: Might be time to steal a yacht and flee to a small pacific island.


After you have killed several people making your escape and abandoned family members along the way, you would start coughing once you landed and be unable to raise anyone on your radio.  Rod Serling appears to one side wearing an N95 mask to deliver a biting closing narration.
 
2020-10-26 5:18:03 PM  
1 vote:

whidbey: geggam: weddingsinger: I'll add to your point:  50% of working Americans earn $33,000 or less (pre-pandemic numbers).

If wages kept up with inflation/productivity, and other growth that has occurred in the last 40 years then the average wage in America would be double.  Instead, something like $50 trillion in wealth has been transferred away from the bottom 80% to the top 20%.

So here is a thought... 

How about creating jobs... get a small business plan ... market it to banks / investors and sell the idea. Create jobs instead of looking for someone else to do it for you ?

How about raising corporate taxes, mandating living wages and taxing billionaires out of existence instead of blaming victims and expecting them to have the same economic power as the top 1/10th of the 1%?


So you think more govt is the solution to the problem instead of less govt enabling you to help yourself 

Got it

Welfare mentality abounds everywhere
 
2020-10-26 5:03:21 PM  
1 vote:
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2020-10-26 5:01:20 PM  
1 vote:

weddingsinger: I'll add to your point:  50% of working Americans earn $33,000 or less (pre-pandemic numbers).

If wages kept up with inflation/productivity, and other growth that has occurred in the last 40 years then the average wage in America would be double.  Instead, something like $50 trillion in wealth has been transferred away from the bottom 80% to the top 20%.


So here is a thought... 

How about creating jobs... get a small business plan ... market it to banks / investors and sell the idea. Create jobs instead of looking for someone else to do it for you ?
 
2020-10-26 4:15:06 PM  
1 vote:

whidbey: geggam: AwfulObject: Let's start with an actual shut-down. One that looks like Canada or Germany. Two weeks - only essential personnel. No wiggle room, government shores up everyone Canada style everybody gets money.

Then robust testing and tracking so you can have a control on where you allocate resource you can be more effective in your usage of PPE and manpower; and I'd utilize the national stockpile and DPA to shore up access to badly needed resources.

I would have had thermal scanners installed at every major airport and probably at major food processing facilities.  There's no reason that these people should be in peril every time they go to work. International flights shut down totally until we get a handle on transmission.

Ease restrictions, keep tracking and tracing, button down locally during flare-ups until a medical solution surfaces. Sure, it would cost a lot of money - but so will a million or so dead people and thrice as much with possibly permanent disability.

OK 

I have been in airports... they are really devoid of people so your impact isnt going to be as big as you think 

Tracking and tracing does what  ? tells you who is sick it does nothing to stop the spread. 

You  have a bug that hops into cats and dogs... probably rats. 

How are you addressing those vectors without a complete shutdown which will in fact kill more people than this bug is capable of. 

The govt printing machine cannot print that much money and keep inflation from going off the rails. 

Next idea ?

"Stop posting" sounds like a good one.


You dont like other people having different ideas ? 

Does it make you uncomfortable to think other thoughts ?
 
2020-10-26 4:01:09 PM  
1 vote:

Tman144: geggam: patrick767: We've been trying the "personal responsibility" approach in Indiana. Our governor is fond of saying things like "I trust Hoosiers to do the right thing without the government requiring it". You know how that's working out? IT'S FARKING NOT!

This is called evolution. 

The stupid will eventually figure out how to die even with all the laws or labels you put on things. 

I call this darwin debt... we have had this coming for some time

Ah, so you're a Nazi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So​cial_Darwinism

Good to know.


LOL

I am opposed to gov telling you what to do and you equate that with authoritarian govt ? 

You arrent real bright are you ?
 
2020-10-26 3:59:07 PM  
1 vote:

AdmirableSnackbar: geggam: If every individual took personal responsibility the collective would be fine.  This idea you need to be told what to do is infantile 

Fix your own house before you worry about others.

Except it's the people saying shiat like you've said in this thread that's making us unable to fix our house. You're the ones making sure the US has the worst response possible to this virus.


Interesting... 

I wear a  mask everywhere I go in public which isn't often ( i stock up and buy truckloads of groceries once a month ) .

I work remote where the closest person is a mile away. 

I dont talk to my family for the most part ( wife and kids I do see ) 

I run MERV filters in the house 

Explain how I cause you issues ?
 
2020-10-26 3:49:20 PM  
1 vote:

Tman144: We spent $2.4 trillion on the war in Iraq. At the height of the shutdown, we had 23 million unemployed. For the amount we spent in Iraq, we could have paid every unemployed person $2,000 a month for 52 months. Did the Iraq war cause inflation to go off the rails? Funny, how when we want revenge for 3,000 dead Americans, no cost is too high, but when faced with a disaster that has killed hundreds of thousands, first thing assholes like you say is "how can we pay for it?"


Now this has potential... lets stop the war machine profits and see what happens

In theory you are on to something... in reality if we arent the gobal bully we will be bullied by another country

Wonder which way is better ?
 
2020-10-26 3:47:30 PM  
1 vote:

Tman144: I have an idea, why don't we pay taxes with the idea that our government will help us during a disaster. I don't see you in hurricane threads lambasting people for expecting help. "Well, you should have saved $300,000 so you could rebuild your own house after the hurricane leveled it!"


OK 

lets do this.. lets remove all private insurance ( its socialism for profit anyway ) and just go straight taxes to pay for everything. 

How about you check out russia to see how this works out for you... 

spoiler : corruption will find its way to the top
 
2020-10-26 3:45:19 PM  
1 vote:

patrick767: We've been trying the "personal responsibility" approach in Indiana. Our governor is fond of saying things like "I trust Hoosiers to do the right thing without the government requiring it". You know how that's working out? IT'S FARKING NOT!


This is called evolution. 

The stupid will eventually figure out how to die even with all the laws or labels you put on things. 

I call this darwin debt... we have had this coming for some time
 
2020-10-26 3:44:11 PM  
1 vote:

OptionC: A third(!) or households(!!!) make less than $40K per year.  Even aside from the fact that free college doesn't pay next month's rent, do you believe that income distribution would be any different if literally everyone went to college?


Actually no

If you cant live on 30k a year if you adjust your standard of living. 

Dont need college ... you can get into trade schools. Not everyone will be rich. 


https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/sk​i​lled-worker-salary-SRCH_KO0,14.htm
 
2020-10-26 3:28:21 PM  
1 vote:
AwfulObject
You do understand how wealth works, right? Zero-sum and all?

I have a couple years making 4k or less a year... several making zero ... now... 6 figures 

Tell me how the poor cant get help... please
 
2020-10-26 3:27:04 PM  
1 vote:

AwfulObject: ??? To date, COVID has killed more people than every conflict the US has been in *combined* if you minus out WW2. This is a bad talking point.


I find this really interesting. 

A man fighting obesity and high blood pressure gets covid and he dies from covid... Not the fact his fat out of shape ass was already one foot in the grave 

Ever think maybe the reason so many are getting sick in the US is because we are all fat half sick bastards to begin with ?
 
2020-10-26 3:24:42 PM  
1 vote:

OptionC: geggam: AwfulObject: geggam: Tman144:

How does staying at home pay my rent?

Suppose you had been living inside your means and saved ? Maybe not bought so much on credit... listened to your granny who lived thru the depression ?

Where would you be now ?

Can't save what you don't get, most people don't have enough to cover a small emergency let alone a big one.

So you are already in a bad shape and this was going to happen regardless ... 

Perhaps that is why you are so ready for someone to fix your issues ?

Why don't poor people just buy more money?


Or... like when I was poor get free college... community college... apply themselves and change their career path 

All sorts of free money out there. All sorts of programs

You have to get off your ass and go get it
 
2020-10-26 3:15:10 PM  
1 vote:

AwfulObject: geggam: Tman144:

How does staying at home pay my rent?

Suppose you had been living inside your means and saved ? Maybe not bought so much on credit... listened to your granny who lived thru the depression ?

Where would you be now ?

Can't save what you don't get, most people don't have enough to cover a small emergency let alone a big one.


So you are already in a bad shape and this was going to happen regardless ... 

Perhaps that is why you are so ready for someone to fix your issues ?
 
2020-10-26 3:09:48 PM  
1 vote:

AwfulObject: geggam:

This is the first time in history the conservative political outlook can negatively impact people in real time. Contrary to your belief, you are your brother's keeper - your personal decisions have a very serious and immediate effect on the people around you.

No man is an island, we live together or die apart; national nightmare outside shoulda told ya.


Interesting quotes

What do you see as a feasible plan for the govt ? 

I see everyone say the govt should do more but I have yet to see anyone come up with a feasible plan of action
 
2020-10-26 2:39:19 PM  
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AwfulObject: geggam: Froman: Crazy Lee: Ambivalence: And the federal government has officially declared it has no interest in stopping it.

And  the federal government Trump Administration has officially declared it has no interest in utilizing those Federal Resources at their disposal in stopping it.

/just a little more precise

Political pseudo-intellectuals will cry about how this is a perfect example of how terrible government is at everything and that it has failed on every level. Well, that's what happens when you either voted directly for or were OK with a ruthless mobbed up notorious celebrity "business" man who never held public office taking over the executive branch and staffing it with his sycophants and crime partners. It was clear that Trump was the anti-government president. Drain the swamp. Dismantle the administrative state. Disable our regulatory agencies. Fire literally everyone not working directly for the enrichment of America's industrial leaders.

For everyone who thinks they're so SMRT because they hate government and don't trust it, here is a preview of your world. But if you are truly OK with Amazon, Facebook, ExxonMobil, Canadian mining conglomerates, and Big Ag deciding your fate with no ability for you to vote(because what are you gonna do, stop using your computer, stop buying things you want, and stop eating?) then I won't argue. You do you.

Sort of curious what you think a govt can do to protect you ? 

You can stay home... You can wear a mask... You can socially distance. 

Do you need a babysitter to tell you what to do ?

Is this a real question?


Testing doesnt stop the virus, avoiding people does. 

Seriously... what would you do if you were POTUS
 
2020-10-26 1:55:20 PM  
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Bla Bla Bla......Yawn.
 
2020-10-26 1:11:13 PM  
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Mad_Radhu: whidbey: Momzilla59: whidbey: All you have to do is go to the comments section of any news page or governor's page on FB.

Goobers.

Goobers everywhere.

Goobers and people who think Culp would be a good governor.

It's scary.   I can't help but think we're being complacent in our King/Pierce/Thurston/Snoho bubble like the rest of the country was in 2016.

There really could be just enough goobers to unseat Inslee.  They farking hate him.

Yeah, no.

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We thought the same thing about Trump.

40% is way too farking high.  In any of your examples.
 
2020-10-26 1:09:45 PM  
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weddingsinger: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: thorpe: Let's see who's not doing their job, besides Trump.

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A more honest graph would have used Red and Blue for the state bars.

At this point its so widespread it doesn't matter.  Red states infect neighboring blue states.  Minnesota, for example, is surrounding by infected stupid.


"Minnesota ain't that Blue." -- George Floyd's ghost
 
2020-10-26 12:58:33 PM  
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Shaggy_C: Tr0mBoNe: What's the point of your argument? "Hey, we don't have to do anything because Europe is also shiatting the bed"? Or are you just being anti-social for your own sake?

I was calling out the people who immediately started jumping all over Trump and turning this into a political thread. My point was to refute their assertion that poor governance alone would cause the spike. The virus doesn't care what your politics are; it exists for one reason, and that's to infect as many people as possible. People who don't wear masks and don't social distance play right into its hands.


You're bullshiatting us and yourself if you don't see the way we've approached(fumbled) this medical emergency is largely in the hands of this administration. From top to bottom the severity of this travesty is in their hands. Hell, one could make the argument the same people are responsible for the fark up in the UK, Brazil and the Philippines in their covid responses.
 
2020-10-26 12:25:55 PM  
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Tr0mBoNe: What's the point of your argument? "Hey, we don't have to do anything because Europe is also shiatting the bed"? Or are you just being anti-social for your own sake?


I was calling out the people who immediately started jumping all over Trump and turning this into a political thread. My point was to refute their assertion that poor governance alone would cause the spike. The virus doesn't care what your politics are; it exists for one reason, and that's to infect as many people as possible. People who don't wear masks and don't social distance play right into its hands.
 
2020-10-26 12:22:22 PM  
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AdmirableSnackbar: weddingsinger: wheresmypen: Shaggy_C: If only we had good, socialist governments like in Europe instead of shiatty leadership like Trump. Then our curve would look--

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Oh...

So we're about two weeks behind.

Great.

Probably not even.  More like just a few days behind.  The U.shiat 80,000+ daily cases now and many areas are reporting well beyond the 5% test positive rate that suggests we are not catching anywhere near all the cases.

This is suggested both by the SHARP rise in deaths the past few days and the poop checking method.  By checking samples at sewage treatment they can see how the population at large is fairing.

Boston, for example, looks a lot like it did in the spring when things got very bad.

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I've been shot!

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2020-10-26 12:07:32 PM  
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Momzilla59: whidbey: All you have to do is go to the comments section of any news page or governor's page on FB.

Goobers.

Goobers everywhere.

Goobers and people who think Culp would be a good governor.


It's scary.   I can't help but think we're being complacent in our King/Pierce/Thurston/Snoho bubble like the rest of the country was in 2016.

There really could be just enough goobers to unseat Inslee.  They farking hate him.
 
2020-10-26 11:57:07 AM  
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Let's see who's not doing their job, besides Trump.

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2020-10-26 11:44:35 AM  
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eurotrader: koder: We're "going herd" until Trump is removed.

In a herd, culling the cause of harm is a good practice.


Public health officials will be targeted for death.

American LEO will refuse to enforce anything the new Administration mandates, universally, and in force.

And we thought they were pricks before? We haven't seen anything yet.
 
2020-10-26 11:39:40 AM  
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It didn't have to be this way.  If that son of a biatch trump and his MAGAt followers hadn't shoved the pandemic response plan up their collective asses, if the narcissistic addicts who insisted on continuing to go to bars, who refused to do something so simple as wear a farking mask, who insisted that "it's no worse than a flu" hadn't been such shiatfarks, a lot of those 225+ thousand people would still be alive.
 
2020-10-26 11:38:14 AM  
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Shaggy_C: If only we had good, socialist governments like in Europe instead of shiatty leadership like Trump. Then our curve would look--

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Oh...


So we're about two weeks behind.

Great.
 
2020-10-26 11:22:33 AM  
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Ambivalence: And the federal government has officially declared it has no interest in stopping it.

And  the federal government Trump Administration has officially declared it has no interest in utilizing those Federal Resources at their disposal in stopping it.


/just a little more precise
 
2020-10-26 11:20:20 AM  
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2020-10-26 11:17:42 AM  
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dkulprit: It's not only that, but the European union has more than twice the amount of people.  So per capita, they're still lower....


EU has 513 million (if you count the UK still.) The USA has 330 million. Not quite 'twice.'

SurelyShirley: The EU is testing more.


Compared to March, yes. The UK has one of the highest excess deaths in the world, for instance, but even at the March peak they were recording extremely small numbers because they couldn't test more than a few thousand people a day. Even now there are hours-long queues to get tests around the country. The USA is still testing many more people per capita AFAIK.
 
2020-10-26 11:16:05 AM  
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Shaggy_C: If only we had good, socialist governments like in Europe instead of shiatty leadership like Trump. Then our curve would look--

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Oh...


Comparing one country with a centralized "do nothing" response vs multiple countries in an economic union of multiple independent nations each with their own individual responses. If only there was an appropriate food metaphor, something about apples and oranges...
 
2020-10-26 11:14:18 AM  
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BizarreMan: 40 degree day: Shaggy_C: If only we had good, socialist governments like in Europe instead of shiatty leadership like Trump. Then our curve would look--

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Oh...

I'm pretty sure what this graph proves is that a weak and decentralized response doesn't work.

I would like to see a breakdown by country or response type.  I'm confident that there is at least one country that isn't doing squat which is skewing the data for the overall line on the graph.


It's not only that, but the European union has more than twice the amount of people.  So per capita, they're still lower....
 
2020-10-26 11:11:17 AM  
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We know. The election inches closer by the day..
 
2020-10-26 11:10:45 AM  
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Of all the scenarios the government has run, the only one they didn't think about was a complete lack of leadership from the top. Everyone assumed that it would never happen.
 
2020-10-26 11:07:14 AM  
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Shaggy_C: If only we had good, socialist governments like in Europe instead of shiatty leadership like Trump. Then our curve would look--

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Oh...


Well, that's their second wave, which was expected.  We're still on our first, and the inevitable second wave is going to pile right on top of it, especially with Dotard holding his superspreader rallies and millions of Americans being steadfast in their stupidity.

Just in time for the holidays, family members are gonna die!
 
2020-10-26 11:05:05 AM  
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I wish I could say confidently where we are on this chart.


We never had that first downslope, it's possible we're still just approaching that first peak.
 
2020-10-26 11:04:26 AM  
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40 degree day: Shaggy_C: If only we had good, socialist governments like in Europe instead of shiatty leadership like Trump. Then our curve would look--

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Oh...

I'm pretty sure what this graph proves is that a weak and decentralized response doesn't work.


I would like to see a breakdown by country or response type.  I'm confident that there is at least one country that isn't doing squat which is skewing the data for the overall line on the graph.
 
2020-10-26 10:56:56 AM  
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koder: We're "going herd" until Trump is removed.


In a herd, culling the cause of harm is a good practice.
 
2020-10-26 10:56:52 AM  
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Ambivalence: And the federally government has officially declared it has no interest in stopping it.


Spice must flow.
 
2020-10-26 10:45:27 AM  
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Ambivalence: And the federally government has officially declared it has no interest in stopping it.


Trump is tired of COVID.  It simply does not respond to threats or intimidation or harsh language.  So there's simply no way to fight it.  You understand how it is.  They tried nothing, and they're out of ideas.
 
2020-10-26 10:42:37 AM  
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Might be time to steal a yacht and flee to a small pacific island.
 
2020-10-26 10:38:02 AM  
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The engine of destruction is actively undermining doctors, data, and anything remotely like best practices.
 
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