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2020-10-26 10:30:33 AM  
"It cannot be a unilateral decision saying, 'You violated our terms of use,' they have to prove that," he said. "We have to have the right to contest this and present our case."

It can, they don't, and no you don't.  Zoom is a private company, not a government.
 
2020-10-26 11:54:06 AM  
Not as simple as subby's headline would imply.
 
2020-10-26 12:45:07 PM  

downstairs: "It cannot be a unilateral decision saying, 'You violated our terms of use,' they have to prove that," he said. "We have to have the right to contest this and present our case."

It can, they don't, and no you don't.  Zoom is a private company, not a government.


https://zoom.us/terms

The Zoom Terms don't mention such a right, and specifically forbids use by people on a Department of Commerce list, such as terrorists.
https://legacy.export.gov/csl-search?​n​ame=Popular%20Front%20for%20the%20Libe​ration%20of%20Palestine
 
2020-10-26 12:50:19 PM  
Reminds me of the old Mazda ads....ZOOM, ZOOM, ZOOM.
 
2020-10-26 12:51:50 PM  

downstairs: "It cannot be a unilateral decision saying, 'You violated our terms of use,' they have to prove that," he said. "We have to have the right to contest this and present our case."

It can, they don't, and no you don't.  Zoom is a private company, not a government.


TIL that people can't take private companies to court regarding their contracts with them.
 
2020-10-26 1:20:46 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: downstairs: "It cannot be a unilateral decision saying, 'You violated our terms of use,' they have to prove that," he said. "We have to have the right to contest this and present our case."

It can, they don't, and no you don't.  Zoom is a private company, not a government.

TIL that people can't take private companies to court regarding their contracts with them.


Good luck suing a company for banning you from their private service.
 
2020-10-26 1:52:51 PM  

downstairs: Vlad_the_Inaner: downstairs: "It cannot be a unilateral decision saying, 'You violated our terms of use,' they have to prove that," he said. "We have to have the right to contest this and present our case."

It can, they don't, and no you don't.  Zoom is a private company, not a government.

TIL that people can't take private companies to court regarding their contracts with them.

Good luck suing a company for banning you from their private service.


Difficulty: using the platform on the toilet at 2 AM with 60M followers.
 
2020-10-26 6:55:58 PM  

WelldeadLink: downstairs: "It cannot be a unilateral decision saying, 'You violated our terms of use,' they have to prove that," he said. "We have to have the right to contest this and present our case."

It can, they don't, and no you don't.  Zoom is a private company, not a government.

https://zoom.us/terms

The Zoom Terms don't mention such a right, and specifically forbids use by people on a Department of Commerce list, such as terrorists.
https://legacy.export.gov/csl-search?n​ame=Popular%20Front%20for%20the%20Libe​ration%20of%20Palestine


Thst would do for the first cancelation mentioned in TFA, but not for the subsequent one. They said "TOS violation" but went silent when asked which policy.

Anyway, welcome to cancel culture. It'll come for everyone eventually.
 
2020-10-26 8:43:17 PM  

downstairs: Vlad_the_Inaner: downstairs: "It cannot be a unilateral decision saying, 'You violated our terms of use,' they have to prove that," he said. "We have to have the right to contest this and present our case."

It can, they don't, and no you don't.  Zoom is a private company, not a government.

TIL that people can't take private companies to court regarding their contracts with them.

Good luck suing a company for banning you from their private service.


TIL that a University who paid a commercial entity for teleconference services should just roll over when service they paid for is cut off without explanation, seeming in a 'pre-crime' manner ahead of any possible TOS violation since a canceled conference had not happened yet.

Probably they should roll over because it's not like a university would have a lawyer on staff or call to handle such apparent contract violations.

/you know, I kind of expect they actually do
 
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