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(Construction Pros)   Kentucky tests orange highway striping for safety in construction zones. Once more for Drew, that's "striping" with just one P   (forconstructionpros.com) divider line
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2020-10-26 9:14:18 AM  
Been missing the chance to get pink eye instead of COVID.
 
2020-10-26 9:38:29 AM  
I'd just be happy with road paint that I could see when it rains.
 
2020-10-26 9:42:01 AM  

Cleffer: I'd just be happy with road paint that I could see when it rains.


That's a good point, I bet that orange disappears when it gets wet at night.  It's always a fun time when it's storming and the lane lines disappear.
 
2020-10-26 9:42:36 AM  
Orange means all yellow targets are double point values

"Hit a Worker
$10,000 Fine"

Yep.  $10,000 would sure be fine
 
2020-10-26 9:42:47 AM  
If you don't notice the orange cones and sh*t, you sure as hell aren't going to notice the paint change.

Waste of money.
 
2020-10-26 9:45:35 AM  
And I always ran in those Schneider Eggs and Schneider trucks.
 
2020-10-26 9:46:10 AM  

Cleffer: I'd just be happy with road paint that I could see when it rains.


Ohio has this problem. And no reflectors on the roads. When I lived in Florida, I had no problem seeing the lanes even in a deluge. Moved to Ohio, and I-71 looked like it didn't have lanes in even a mild rain.
 
2020-10-26 9:47:13 AM  
Reponding to the headline only:

I drove through Kentucky a few weeks ago and experience this.  It was odd to me at first but I quickly adpated.

Using orange lines makes a lot of sense. There is no confusing old lines for new, it signals that the specific lane(s) are temporary, and insinuates that one should drive with caution - all by the color.

That said, I have very, very high color definition (Doctor's suspect tetrachromacy but I was never tested).  I wonder how these lines appear to the color blind?
 
2020-10-26 9:48:03 AM  
Having driven down I-75 several times the past few months, the orange is noticeable as a "did they run out of yellow?" reaction.  The sudden lane shift and uncomfortably close concrete barriers add to the "omfarkingawwwd" reaction that I'm certain my fellow drivers will handle with complete calm.
 
2020-10-26 9:48:52 AM  
Well it is about time Benny Benassi gave us a worthy follow-up to the video for Satisfaction.
 
2020-10-26 9:52:00 AM  

Cleffer: I'd just be happy with road paint that I could see when it rains.


Whaaaa? What kind of crappy paint they using by you. Yellow and white glow out here.

But still no cure for 'solid lines mean stay in you god damn lane, asshole'
/do not miss multli lane roads
 
2020-10-26 9:53:31 AM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: If you don't notice the orange cones and sh*t, you sure as hell aren't going to notice the paint change.

Waste of money.


Politics 101: Do stupid stuff to justify your job as long as you can prove that it wasnt bad. "See we did all these things, I'm amazing".
 
2020-10-26 9:56:07 AM  
And just like today, when people hit section of orange markings but don't see any work going on they'll learn to ignore these too.
 
2020-10-26 9:59:37 AM  
So now Im going to have yellow covered by black covered by orange covered by black covered by yellow?

That will be crystal clear in wet conditions.
 
2020-10-26 10:01:04 AM  
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Hard at work, watching the guy with the shovel.
 
2020-10-26 10:05:07 AM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: If you don't notice the orange cones and sh*t, you sure as hell aren't going to notice the paint change.

Waste of money.


Frederick Beauregard Tutweiler XVII ran over some girl, blew a BAC of 35.9, and then skated because he was Frederick Beauregard Tutweiler XVII, but claiming the freshly-painted lines in broad daylight were too worn and invisible to see.  The Commonwoe then made this sort of thing to claim to fix the problem, while not actually doing a thing to Frederick Beauregard Tutweiler XVII, Kentucky Colonel.
 
2020-10-26 10:07:31 AM  
If they did that in Wisconsin, they'd never change it back. Highway projects take so long that by the time they finish the road's almost ready to be repaved again.
 
2020-10-26 10:08:30 AM  
If you've got the time and budget to change the color of the road striping, your construction project is taking too long. Toss out a couple orange barrels, slap some cold patch in that hole, and move on.

/yes, I know bridges, etc. take months.
 
2020-10-26 10:11:18 AM  
And like all construction projects they'll leave the construction zone markings in place long after the job is done, thus training drivers to completely ignore this stuff.
 
2020-10-26 10:12:43 AM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: [Fark user image 850x399]

Hard at work, watching the guy with the shovel.


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Glad they're wearing their official OSHA mandated reflective safety gear as well. Be a shame if a passing rollerblader didn't see them and caused an accident.
 
2020-10-26 10:12:55 AM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: If you don't notice the orange cones and sh*t, you sure as hell aren't going to notice the paint change.

Waste of money.


I doubt it's any more expensive than putting down temporary white lane lines in the construction zones.
 
2020-10-26 10:18:29 AM  

pheelix: If they did that in Wisconsin, they'd never change it back. Highway projects take so long that by the time they finish the road's almost ready to be repaved again.


I was going to say something similar about Illnois. They have work zones that go years. Once I see faded and broken orange striping in a work zone, I'll know I'm not imagining things.
 
2020-10-26 10:23:23 AM  

Slypork: Day_Old_Dutchie: [Fark user image 850x399]

Hard at work, watching the guy with the shovel.

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Glad they're wearing their official OSHA mandated reflective safety gear as well. Be a shame if a passing rollerblader didn't see them and caused an accident.


This attitude is why we don't have a  working class in this country anymore.
 
2020-10-26 10:32:05 AM  
Hopefully Nov 5 does the same thing...
 
2020-10-26 10:35:07 AM  

pheelix: If they did that in Wisconsin, they'd never change it back. Highway projects take so long that by the time they finish the road's almost ready to be repaved again.


They were testing it in Wisconsin when they redid the Zoo Interchange in Milwaukee starting six years ago.
 
2020-10-26 10:43:10 AM  

pheelix: If they did that in Wisconsin, they'd never change it back. Highway projects take so long that by the time they finish the road's almost ready to be repaved again.


Cough cough

I894 and the Rock had them when they were trying to repair (instead of a sorely needed replace) the 'OMG, the Hale interchange over the root river/swamp is falling apart so bad we put nets under them to catch the pieces'

/i noticed the nets when I used to take my lunch walks when I still went to the office.
//decided to end my walks at layton instead of going further at that point.
 
2020-10-26 11:14:04 AM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: If you don't notice the orange cones and sh*t, you sure as hell aren't going to notice the paint change.

Waste of money.


Agreed this will do fark all to improve safety.   The one true way to ensure worker safety is to detour traffic around a worksite.  which is not always feasible.
 
2020-10-26 11:22:05 AM  

Petey4335: Cleffer: I'd just be happy with road paint that I could see when it rains.

Whaaaa? What kind of crappy paint they using by you. Yellow and white glow out here.

But still no cure for 'solid lines mean stay in you god damn lane, asshole'
/do not miss multli lane roads


The problem is with roadwork areas at night.  They paint temporary lanes but they don't put reflectors down.  Any kind of paint on new pavement isn't going to be very visible at night when it's raining without angled reflectors.  The slightly oily water on a completely black surface is just too shiny on it's own due to your headlights.  You can see the lanes, but not very far out.
 
2020-10-26 12:31:22 PM  

Cheesehead_Dave: pheelix: If they did that in Wisconsin, they'd never change it back. Highway projects take so long that by the time they finish the road's almost ready to be repaved again.

They were testing it in Wisconsin when they redid the Zoo Interchange in Milwaukee starting six years ago.


Difficulty: Wisconsin got really ballsy and started doing road work year-round.  So that dark orange + on top of blacktop + underneath snow = hilarity ensuing.
 
2020-10-26 1:00:29 PM  

g.fro: Slypork: Day_Old_Dutchie: [Fark user image 850x399]

Hard at work, watching the guy with the shovel.

[i.ebayimg.com image 300x295]
Glad they're wearing their official OSHA mandated reflective safety gear as well. Be a shame if a passing rollerblader didn't see them and caused an accident.

This attitude is why we don't have a  working class in this country anymore.


I was being a smartass. I've worked construction as a union carpenter and I have many friends and family members in unions including electricians ,plumbers, elevator repair, grocery clerks and educators. I respect unions but have seen and heard about slackers in those jobs. Of course, you find them in all jobs
 
2020-10-26 1:08:35 PM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: If you don't notice the orange cones and sh*t, you sure as hell aren't going to notice the paint change.

Waste of money.


The other issue I see: how many "construction zones" have you driven through where nobody is doing anything, and they just haven't taken down the signs? Sometimes it's weeks. And this is paint, not 2 dudes and a flatbed. It'll never get repainted.

It's fine on the freeway expansion probably, because those end up getting new paint at the end, but it would be useless for smaller stuff.
 
2020-10-26 1:09:24 PM  

greatgodyoshi: Cleffer: I'd just be happy with road paint that I could see when it rains.

Ohio has this problem. And no reflectors on the roads. When I lived in Florida, I had no problem seeing the lanes even in a deluge. Moved to Ohio, and I-71 looked like it didn't have lanes in even a mild rain.


We can't have reflectors here because the snowplow would just tear 'em off...
 
2020-10-26 1:24:16 PM  
I dunno about the orange paint, but I would definitely slow down for strippers.
 
2020-10-26 1:48:41 PM  

Slypork: g.fro: Slypork: Day_Old_Dutchie: [Fark user image 850x399]

Hard at work, watching the guy with the shovel.

[i.ebayimg.com image 300x295]
Glad they're wearing their official OSHA mandated reflective safety gear as well. Be a shame if a passing rollerblader didn't see them and caused an accident.

This attitude is why we don't have a  working class in this country anymore.

I was being a smartass. I've worked construction as a union carpenter and I have many friends and family members in unions including electricians ,plumbers, elevator repair, grocery clerks and educators. I respect unions but have seen and heard about slackers in those jobs. Of course, you find them in all jobs


Fair enough.
 
2020-10-26 1:49:51 PM  

Cultured: I dunno about the orange paint, but I would definitely slow down for strippers.


I grew up just north of NYC and there were highways with reflectors. There's a certain type you can use. It's a cost thing.
 
2020-10-26 1:51:16 PM  

Mikey1969: greatgodyoshi: Cleffer: I'd just be happy with road paint that I could see when it rains.

Ohio has this problem. And no reflectors on the roads. When I lived in Florida, I had no problem seeing the lanes even in a deluge. Moved to Ohio, and I-71 looked like it didn't have lanes in even a mild rain.

We can't have reflectors here because the snowplow would just tear 'em off...


I figured that was the reason. I wonder if they could cut a small hole and put in flat topped ones that are angled inside to catch the light. It's not like they aren't constantly doing construction on the main highways anyway.
 
2020-10-26 1:59:22 PM  

Petey4335: Cleffer: I'd just be happy with road paint that I could see when it rains.

Whaaaa? What kind of crappy paint they using by you. Yellow and white glow out here.

But still no cure for 'solid lines mean stay in you god damn lane, asshole'
/do not miss multli lane roads


Living here in PA, I can tell you, they really do use crappy paint that does not reflect well at night, even when dry.  It is because the high-reflective paint is more expensive, and they have to resurface and repaint the roads every 3 years due to the insane amount of potholes we get .. though I suspect the potholes are also a symptom of using cheap-grade asphalt...
 
2020-10-26 2:15:55 PM  

Loreweaver: Petey4335: Cleffer: I'd just be happy with road paint that I could see when it rains.

Whaaaa? What kind of crappy paint they using by you. Yellow and white glow out here.

But still no cure for 'solid lines mean stay in you god damn lane, asshole'
/do not miss multli lane roads

Living here in PA, I can tell you, they really do use crappy paint that does not reflect well at night, even when dry.  It is because the high-reflective paint is more expensive, and they have to resurface and repaint the roads every 3 years due to the insane amount of potholes we get .. though I suspect the potholes are also a symptom of using cheap-grade asphalt...


It would be nice if potholes were just because of cheap asphalt, but probably part of the cause. Water seepage + freeze along with thaw + washout of the soil and under the bed of rocks under road is just something those of us in such climates have to accept. Additionally, the weight of hauling freight regularly is just going to cause more fractures over the long run. Unless you have a way to seal the road, stop it from cracking, and stabilize the soil underneath without completely destroying the environment, without adding a huge amount of cost it is what it is.
 
2020-10-26 2:23:07 PM  

greatgodyoshi: Mikey1969: greatgodyoshi: Cleffer: I'd just be happy with road paint that I could see when it rains.

Ohio has this problem. And no reflectors on the roads. When I lived in Florida, I had no problem seeing the lanes even in a deluge. Moved to Ohio, and I-71 looked like it didn't have lanes in even a mild rain.

We can't have reflectors here because the snowplow would just tear 'em off...

I figured that was the reason. I wonder if they could cut a small hole and put in flat topped ones that are angled inside to catch the light. It's not like they aren't constantly doing construction on the main highways anyway.


We came up to visit before moving here in 2005, then moved up in '06. They were doing construction on I-15, just the main area of population, a 90 mile stretch, and have been doing and re-doing it every year since. Not maintenance, but complete projects. It's insane. My theory is that it's the company that provides the aggregate for the roadbed. They sell a bunch of rock, then 2 years later, they get paid to haul away and recycle the rock, also selling NEW rock in the process. Until the end of time...
 
2020-10-26 3:07:47 PM  

Cleffer: Cultured: I dunno about the orange paint, but I would definitely slow down for strippers.

I grew up just north of NYC and there were highways with reflectors. There's a certain type you can use. It's a cost thing.


Strippers with reflectors? Usually it's just glitter.
 
2020-10-26 4:22:49 PM  
So, the invasion by University of Tennessee has begun while you were distracted by Duke.
 
2020-10-26 6:17:53 PM  

Cheesehead_Dave: pheelix: If they did that in Wisconsin, they'd never change it back. Highway projects take so long that by the time they finish the road's almost ready to be repaved again.

They were testing it in Wisconsin when they redid the Zoo Interchange in Milwaukee starting six years ago.


Huh. I forgot about that. I must have gotten so used to them being orange that they no longer registered as "unusual".
 
2020-10-26 7:47:22 PM  

Cleffer: I'd just be happy with road paint that I could see when it rains.


Its called black paint.  When the road is wet, it is amazing how much clearer the lane markers are when they alternate white (or yellow) paint with black paint for the stripes and parallel the solid lines with black paint for edge markings.

I hope they improved the orange reflectivity, it used to be much lower than the yellow.  Someone had come up with some purple that had great reflectiveness but there were color blindness issues with it.

Does anyone know if the yellow paint is still cheaper than the white?
 
2020-10-26 9:36:30 PM  
The roads crumble because of shiatty build quality.  We know perfectly well how to build roads that hold up to freeze/thaw cycles.

Public bids to build a road should include 30 years of maintenance on that road.  I guarantee the better companies will find a way to do nothing more than repaint it occasionally (and likely not even that)
 
2020-10-27 5:27:27 AM  

pheelix: If they did that in Wisconsin, they'd never change it back. Highway projects take so long that by the time they finish the road's almost ready to be repaved again.


They started a big projected on the 210 in Pasadena the year I was born.  I was married before they finished it.

It took them so long to complete the project, that the new upgrades can't keep up with the growth in traffic over the intervening decades.  So now they're going to have to start a new project!

The town I grew up in Southern California has a highway running through it.  When I moved away in the mid-late 90s they started a project to widen the highway.  The last time I drove through there, last year, they were still working on it.

However, the town I live in now, on the 101 in Central California, started a project last year to widen all of our freeway overpasses to double the lanes.  They're already done.  (And I give them double points for doing that during 2020!)
 
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