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2020-10-26 9:58:33 AM  
Nowhere until covid is gone and it is legal and safe and the general public feels safe to go back to crowded movie theaters again.
 
2020-10-26 10:00:06 AM  
With the lull in theater attendance, now is a great time to make lower-cost story-based films like Logan. The age of the blockbuster is over (for now). Plus, if you really want diversity, make 10 smaller films rather than forcing one Ghostbusters 2016.
 
2020-10-26 10:03:55 AM  
Look, just give the money to me, and I'll watch your dumb ass movie.  I'll even get, like, four friends to watch it.  That's already a better return than it deserves.
 
2020-10-26 10:06:28 AM  

CommonName2: With the lull in theater attendance, now is a great time to make lower-cost story-based films like Logan. The age of the blockbuster is over (for now). Plus, if you really want diversity, make 10 smaller films rather than forcing one Ghostbusters 2016.


This isn't a theatrical release. HBO Max is putting it out in four parts.
 
2020-10-26 10:09:35 AM  
How the hell does it cost $70M to re-edit a movie?
 
2020-10-26 10:10:46 AM  

SuperChuck: How the hell does it cost $70M to re-edit a movie?


Hollywood math?
 
2020-10-26 10:11:23 AM  
At this point it feels like he's just shooting a whole new movie.
 
2020-10-26 10:14:08 AM  
I know Hollywood loves their remakes and reboots, but this might be the fastest we've seen one.
 
2020-10-26 10:14:12 AM  
 
2020-10-26 10:31:27 AM  

CommonName2: With the lull in theater attendance, now is a great time to make lower-cost story-based films like Logan. The age of the blockbuster is over (for now). Plus, if you really want diversity, make 10 smaller films rather than forcing one Ghostbusters 2016.


Logan was around $120m. Ant-Man was $130m, and it was also a "smaller-scale" story.

Serenity is probably the best frame of reference... about $55m by today's standards.
 
2020-10-26 10:32:09 AM  
There should be a Snyder Pretzel cut, where their snacks are CGI'd into every scene.
 
2020-10-26 10:32:49 AM  
I'll watch it and probably enjoy it.
 
2020-10-26 10:38:32 AM  
"You didn't need to make a movie with that money. I would have bought a ticket just to look at that much cash."

Scarface, Amnesia, and One Hundred Million Dollars
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2020-10-26 10:38:33 AM  
You wonder how out of touch Hollywood executives are that they can throw money away so easily.

And then you remember they green-lit a Man from U.N.C.L.E adaptation, and a Lone Ranger adaptation, and yet another Robin Hood movie, and a Ben-Hur remake.
 
2020-10-26 10:41:59 AM  
What also could have made it better is bothering to set up some of the characters who are actually part of the Justice League before making a Justice League movie. It was bungled before they even started shooting.
 
2020-10-26 10:48:36 AM  

Devil's Advocaat: You wonder how out of touch Hollywood executives are that they can throw money away so easily.

And then you remember they green-lit a Man from U.N.C.L.E adaptation, and a Lone Ranger adaptation, and yet another Robin Hood movie, and a Ben-Hur remake.


"You know what sci fi classic the kids have been clamoring for? The John Carter from Mars series!"
 
2020-10-26 10:50:39 AM  

gunga galunga: SuperChuck: How the hell does it cost $70M to re-edit a movie?

Reshoots.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/report-jared-l​eto-isnt-the-only-villain-back-for-zac​k-1845466725


Does it count as a reshoot when they're adding scenes with actors who weren't even cast in the original movie?
 
2020-10-26 10:51:01 AM  
Shooting a bunch of new stuff and splicing it into an existing, completed, and released movie? Now where have I seen that before...
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2020-10-26 11:03:00 AM  

EyeballKid: Devil's Advocaat: You wonder how out of touch Hollywood executives are that they can throw money away so easily.

And then you remember they green-lit a Man from U.N.C.L.E adaptation, and a Lone Ranger adaptation, and yet another Robin Hood movie, and a Ben-Hur remake.

"You know what sci fi classic the kids have been clamoring for? The John Carter from Mars series!"


You fool! What they want is another Terminator movie!
 
2020-10-26 11:14:31 AM  

Outshined_One: gunga galunga: SuperChuck: How the hell does it cost $70M to re-edit a movie?

Reshoots.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/report-jared-l​eto-isnt-the-only-villain-back-for-zac​k-1845466725

Does it count as a reshoot when they're adding scenes with actors who weren't even cast in the original movie?


Yeah, at this point it's not really an alternate cut anymore, it's a new movie using a bunch of footage from a movie that was already released. Snyder says not a single frame Whedon shot will end up in this cut, too, so there's a lot of "new" and new-to-us material in this cut.

While I can't claim to be excited for this, I am interested in it.

I don't have much faith in Snyder to put something great together, no, but that's not why I'm going to watch this.

It's damn near unique in Hollywood history to see something like this. It's rare enough as it is to have a film cut up by the studio, then have the original director's vision restore so you can see them side-by-side. Good examples are Touch of Evil, Once Upon A Time in America, and a handful of others.

But there aren't many. Usually what gets released is what you get, and "what could have been" is something we can only imagine. (I want SO bad to see the original cut of The 13th Warrior, but it will never see the light of day.)

So at the very least, this will be a great education in how the same movie can go in two very different directions. It's really rare you get a chance to see something like this, especially for such a big budget flick. I love unpeeling the creative process, and this is a cool opportunity. To compare them side-by-side is going to be interesting.
 
2020-10-26 11:24:44 AM  

SuperChuck: How the hell does it cost $70M to re-edit a movie?


They arent re-editing the movie. They are filming new scenes and redoing special effects.
 
2020-10-26 11:26:19 AM  

Devil's Advocaat: You wonder how out of touch Hollywood executives are that they can throw money away so easily.

And then you remember they green-lit a Man from U.N.C.L.E adaptation, and a Lone Ranger adaptation, and yet another Robin Hood movie, and a Ben-Hur remake.


The Man From UNCLE was a good movie.
 
2020-10-26 11:28:00 AM  

shoegaze99: It's damn near unique in Hollywood history to see something like this. It's rare enough as it is to have a film cut up by the studio, then have the original director's vision restore so you can see them side-by-side. Good examples are Touch of Evil, Once Upon A Time in America, and a handful of others.


The Exorcist prequel.

Originally directed by Paul Schrader as more of a psychological thriller like Exorcist III. Warner Brothers decided that they wanted something more conventional and gory and got Renny Harlin to reshoot practically the entire movie.
 
2020-10-26 11:28:39 AM  
140 chicks at the same time.
 
2020-10-26 11:40:59 AM  

Devil's Advocaat: EyeballKid: Devil's Advocaat: You wonder how out of touch Hollywood executives are that they can throw money away so easily.

And then you remember they green-lit a Man from U.N.C.L.E adaptation, and a Lone Ranger adaptation, and yet another Robin Hood movie, and a Ben-Hur remake.

"You know what sci fi classic the kids have been clamoring for? The John Carter from Mars series!"

You fool! What they want is another Terminator movie!


Only if McG is involved.
 
2020-10-26 11:44:13 AM  

gunga galunga: The Exorcist prequel.

Originally directed by Paul Schrader as more of a psychological thriller like Exorcist III. Warner Brothers decided that they wanted something more conventional and gory and got Renny Harlin to reshoot practically the entire movie.


Thanks for bringing this to my attention! Just Googled this and had no idea the story here. Sounds like they are effectively two different movies based on the same script, right down to recasting an entire role. Crazy.

Do they share any footage at all?

Not a huge horror fan, but I may have to track both of these down to see how they compare.
 
2020-10-26 11:50:17 AM  

Devil's Advocaat: You wonder how out of touch Hollywood executives are that they can throw money away so easily.

And then you remember they green-lit a Man from U.N.C.L.E adaptation, and a Lone Ranger adaptation, and yet another Robin Hood movie, and a Ben-Hur remake.


I will admit  I liked the Man from U.N.C.L.E adaptation.  it was fun, and the leads seemed to have good chemistry.
 
2020-10-26 11:52:13 AM  

shoegaze99: gunga galunga: The Exorcist prequel.

Originally directed by Paul Schrader as more of a psychological thriller like Exorcist III. Warner Brothers decided that they wanted something more conventional and gory and got Renny Harlin to reshoot practically the entire movie.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention! Just Googled this and had no idea the story here. Sounds like they are effectively two different movies based on the same script, right down to recasting an entire role. Crazy.

Do they share any footage at all?

Not a huge horror fan, but I may have to track both of these down to see how they compare.


I have never seen the Renny Harlin version. From my understand, they only footage the two versions share is a flashback scene with a very young Father Merrin facing down the Nazis.
 
2020-10-26 11:56:12 AM  

CommonName2: With the lull in theater attendance, now is a great time to make lower-cost story-based films like Logan. The age of the blockbuster is over (for now). Plus, if you really want diversity, make 10 smaller films rather than forcing one Ghostbusters 2016.


Make more movies that are geared towards online viewership. Lower budgets and big names that are getting bored sitting in their million-dollar mansions and put them on Netflix and Amazon.

I'm wondering if the day of the movie theater Blockbuster might not be quite over but is definitely about to go through a major metamorphosis after all this craziness is said and done.
 
2020-10-26 11:56:53 AM  
I know this hasn't been mentioned anywhere in any of the MCU rumors and I know it'll cost more than $70 million, but I would like a movie of Steve Rodgers returning the Infinity Stones to their proper timeline.
 
2020-10-26 11:57:37 AM  

browntimmy: What also could have made it better is bothering to set up some of the characters who are actually part of the Justice League before making a Justice League movie. It was bungled before they even started shooting.


they saw that Marvel managed to make Guardians of the Galaxy without setting up the individual characters, and group was pretty much a bunch of unknowns including a talking raccoon and a tree that only says 1 thing.  It worked because it leaned into its weird premise and new how to tell a story.  You could turn the scrpt into a children's picture book and it would still work

the problem with JL the movie was that script sucked.  no amount of recutting or reshooting will fix a fundamentally flawed script.

will probably try to watch anyway just to see the changes.  wouldn't pay $10 for a ticket tho
 
2020-10-26 11:57:40 AM  
Steve *Rogers*
 
2020-10-26 11:58:27 AM  

Devil's Advocaat: You wonder how out of touch Hollywood executives are that they can throw money away so easily.

And then you remember they green-lit a Man from U.N.C.L.E adaptation, and a Lone Ranger adaptation, and yet another Robin Hood movie, and a Ben-Hur remake.


Creative people have even less say in Hollywood now. Creative people would have come up with smaller-scale original programming. Bean counters and business Executives in movie houses come up with reboots and more attempts to make cinematic universes.
 
2020-10-26 11:58:35 AM  
Even though I think this was an incredibly dumb waste of time and money, and won't be wasting any of my own to see it, I'm almost tempted to champion it all over the Internet as the greatest thing ever and encourage others to do the same. Because if Hollywood gets tricked into thinking this was a really good idea, who knows what else they might decide to reshoot and "restore" to the original vision? We might get Lord and Miller's director cut of "Solo". Josh Trank's cut of "Fantastic Four". Edgar Wright's cut of "Ant Man".

Okay, that last one I'd actually like to see.
 
2020-10-26 11:58:40 AM  
Deadpool 3 and it is just Ryan Reynold's with a webcam?
 
2020-10-26 12:00:13 PM  

browneye: I know this hasn't been mentioned anywhere in any of the MCU rumors and I know it'll cost more than $70 million, but I would like a movie of Steve Rodgers returning the Infinity Stones to their proper timeline.


If done well that could be a great season-long series on a streaming service. My concern is that with any story dealing with time travel the details get in the way way too easily and it would end up being a muddled mess no matter how well it was told.
 
2020-10-26 12:03:09 PM  

SuperChuck: How the hell does it cost $70M to re-edit a movie?


Something about a mustache.
 
2020-10-26 12:08:42 PM  

TheManofPA: Deadpool 3 and it is just Ryan Reynold's with a webcam?


That might happen. Disney loves the Deadpool merchandise profits, but they're still undecided on what to do with the character moving forward. Ultimately I'm betting they try toning the violence and sex jokes way down, making him much more Detective Pikachu PG than hard R.
 
2020-10-26 12:31:37 PM  

EdgeRunner: TheManofPA: Deadpool 3 and it is just Ryan Reynold's with a webcam?

That might happen. Disney loves the Deadpool merchandise profits, but they're still undecided on what to do with the character moving forward. Ultimately I'm betting they try toning the violence and sex jokes way down, making him much more Detective Pikachu PG than hard R.


Yup, at one point Disney (through various subdivisions) made plenty of R rated movies, but in the past five years or so, they have basically stopped doing so.  It appears this means Deadpool is, um, dead.  Don't expect a Deadpool 3 any time soon.
 
2020-10-26 12:32:17 PM  
I've been hearing for a couple years now that "The SYNDER CUT" is amazing and so MUCH better than the Theatrical Release....

if he has to go back re-write things multiple times, recast, reshoot, etc... its not a "Cut" its a different movie.

if he say, re-edited a version of the film using deleted scenes and maybe added some looped in audio...that's be one thing...but for a couple years now people have been demanding WB release a version of a film that never existed.
 
2020-10-26 12:36:09 PM  

the voice of raisin: Devil's Advocaat: You wonder how out of touch Hollywood executives are that they can throw money away so easily.

And then you remember they green-lit a Man from U.N.C.L.E adaptation, and a Lone Ranger adaptation, and yet another Robin Hood movie, and a Ben-Hur remake.

I will admit  I liked the Man from U.N.C.L.E adaptation.  it was fun, and the leads seemed to have good chemistry.


I apologise if I was implying that Man from U.N.C.L.E was crap. I also like Henry Cavill, which I think puts me at odds with the current Fark orthodoxy.

My point was that 9 times out of 10, expecting things you liked as a kid to resonate with kids today is doomed to fail.

George Lucas wanted to make a version of the adventure serials he enjoyed as a kid. He's lucky he made Star Wars though, and not Flash Gordon.
 
2020-10-26 12:38:41 PM  

snowshovel: The Man From UNCLE was a good movie.


See my reply to 'the voice of raisin'
 
2020-10-26 12:44:53 PM  

Stratohead: I've been hearing for a couple years now that "The SYNDER CUT" is amazing and so MUCH better than the Theatrical Release....

if he has to go back re-write things multiple times, recast, reshoot, etc... its not a "Cut" its a different movie.

if he say, re-edited a version of the film using deleted scenes and maybe added some looped in audio...that's be one thing...but for a couple years now people have been demanding WB release a version of a film that never existed.


It was surreal watching the talking points go from "The Snyder Cut exists, just release it!" to "The Snyder Cut was *almost* finished, just release it!" to "They're re-filming the Snyder Cut which means I was right all along!"  Pivoting worthy of the Politics Tab.
 
2020-10-26 12:50:54 PM  
They should spend the money on making new seasons of Young Justice instead.
 
2020-10-26 12:52:54 PM  

SuperChuck: How the hell does it cost $70M to re-edit a movie?


Henry Cavill still refuses to shave his goddamn mustache.
 
2020-10-26 12:57:47 PM  
On writers.
 
2020-10-26 1:10:43 PM  
Is this real?

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2020-10-26 1:35:08 PM  
I suspect the studio is viewing this as spending $70 million to get a whole new $250+ million super hero movie.

And if it's well received, it will help boost interest in forthcoming DC movies.

Not a bad strategy, but I have a hard time believing that that this new cut will win many converts.
 
2020-10-26 1:47:21 PM  

skyotter: Stratohead: I've been hearing for a couple years now that "The SYNDER CUT" is amazing and so MUCH better than the Theatrical Release....

if he has to go back re-write things multiple times, recast, reshoot, etc... its not a "Cut" its a different movie.

if he say, re-edited a version of the film using deleted scenes and maybe added some looped in audio...that's be one thing...but for a couple years now people have been demanding WB release a version of a film that never existed.

It was surreal watching the talking points go from "The Snyder Cut exists, just release it!" to "The Snyder Cut was *almost* finished, just release it!" to "They're re-filming the Snyder Cut which means I was right all along!"  Pivoting worthy of the Politics Tab.


When you start with an insane premise like "Zack Snyder's Justice League has to be the greatest thing ever, a conclusion I'm basing on how great Batman vs Superman was", any additional crazy is just redundant.
 
2020-10-26 1:48:50 PM  

skyotter: Stratohead: I've been hearing for a couple years now that "The SYNDER CUT" is amazing and so MUCH better than the Theatrical Release....

if he has to go back re-write things multiple times, recast, reshoot, etc... its not a "Cut" its a different movie.

if he say, re-edited a version of the film using deleted scenes and maybe added some looped in audio...that's be one thing...but for a couple years now people have been demanding WB release a version of a film that never existed.

It was surreal watching the talking points go from "The Snyder Cut exists, just release it!" to "The Snyder Cut was *almost* finished, just release it!" to "They're re-filming the Snyder Cut which means I was right all along!"  Pivoting worthy of the Politics Tab.


It'll be fun watching them pretending it's great no matter how the quality is. They pretty much have to at this point.
 
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