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2020-10-25 8:25:14 PM  
Here is the problem..

The Police Benevolent Association, one of the largest police unions representing New York City officers, endorsed President Donald Trump's bid for re-election back in August.

If officers can't promote a political party on the job then the unions representing those officers shouldn't be able to either. It's bias by proxy...
 
2020-10-25 8:43:17 PM  

styckx: Here is the problem..

The Police Benevolent Association, one of the largest police unions representing New York City officers, endorsed President Donald Trump's bid for re-election back in August.

If officers can't promote a political party on the job then the unions representing those officers shouldn't be able to either. It's bias by proxy...


Exactly, wait till the union gets him reinstated with backpay...
 
2020-10-25 8:45:04 PM  

styckx: Here is the problem..

The Police Benevolent Association, one of the largest police unions representing New York City officers, endorsed President Donald Trump's bid for re-election back in August.

If officers can't promote a political party on the job then the unions representing those officers shouldn't be able to either. It's bias by proxy...


Here's the problem for The Police Benevolent Association as of election day: no more Donald Trump in the White House and no more Republican Senate.   Maybe they should stop being creepy lowlifes who support the cops no matter what horrendous things they do.

Maybe the same rules that apply to members of the military should be applied to all local cops via federal regulation.  Then, the local cops can no longer be the KKK with badges.
 
2020-10-25 9:29:53 PM  
Good.jpg
 
2020-10-25 9:40:38 PM  
It's a start
 
2020-10-25 9:40:56 PM  
The NYPD News provided an update Sunday afternoon that said the officer was suspended without pay effective immediately while he was under investigation.

Boy, I hope they've got their best detectives on the case.

Anyone know of precedent for what the penalty will be?
 
2020-10-25 10:08:16 PM  

styckx: Here is the problem..

The Police Benevolent Association, one of the largest police unions representing New York City officers, endorsed President Donald Trump's bid for re-election back in August.

If officers can't promote a political party on the job then the unions representing those officers shouldn't be able to either. It's bias by proxy...


That is a free speech issue so no,
 
2020-10-25 10:13:51 PM  
Why are police unions a-okay with Republicans, but all other unions are bad?

Don't  even bother answering, we all know why.
 
2020-10-25 10:15:48 PM  

Azlefty: styckx: Here is the problem..

The Police Benevolent Association, one of the largest police unions representing New York City officers, endorsed President Donald Trump's bid for re-election back in August.

If officers can't promote a political party on the job then the unions representing those officers shouldn't be able to either. It's bias by proxy...

That is a free speech issue so no,


It's voter intimidation because he's a person with power over people.
Yeah, you can say what you want, but sometimes there's consequences.
 
2020-10-25 10:24:41 PM  
I don't want my money paying for this asshole, but he'll get back pay once he's cleared.
 
2020-10-25 11:10:49 PM  
I'm not surprised the cops are pushing back against the group think madness. I mean, when this is allowed to happen ...

Videos show NYPD officers being doused with water
Youtube pWp49vzCM_U


... what do you expect?
 
2020-10-25 11:24:04 PM  
Good.

Now let's stop churches from using their Pulpit as a political prop
 
2020-10-26 2:15:09 AM  
Without pay?? Wow. I may actually need a fainting couch because it's a start. A baby step, but a start.
/Yeah, I know he will most likely be reinstated and get back pay because this is 2020 and this timeline blows
//But I'll take this as a sign that things just may change anyway.
/// Glass half full and all that. A girl needs a bit of hope now and then.
 
2020-10-26 2:15:54 AM  

TuckFrump: Good.

Now let's stop churches from using their Pulpit as a political prop


Seconded.
 
2020-10-26 2:34:19 AM  
They'll pass the hat for him next time they shakedown a drug dealer. They wouldn't want him to start freelancing and cut them out of the action.
 
2020-10-26 2:49:43 AM  
It's certainly a bad look when a cop is advertising for the worst organized crime family in town.
 
2020-10-26 3:18:51 AM  

styckx: If officers can't promote a political party on the job then the unions representing those officers shouldn't be able to either. It's bias by proxy...


It's also constitutionally protected free speech.
 
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2020-10-26 3:22:08 AM  

CruiserTwelve: styckx: If officers can't promote a political party on the job then the unions representing those officers shouldn't be able to either. It's bias by proxy...

It's also constitutionally protected free speech.


No it isn't, Mr. CruiserTwelve, not when you're on the job on behalf of the gov't and what are you even talking about?
 
2020-10-26 5:29:11 AM  
The next FBI director if Trump is re-elected.
 
2020-10-26 8:06:32 AM  
It's great knowing that the NYPD is openly promoting fascism.
 
2020-10-26 8:08:01 AM  
Instead of recording a nice brick from a roof woulda been more effective
 
2020-10-26 8:08:34 AM  

DannyBrandt: Why are police unions a-okay with Republicans, but all other unions are bad?


Well why don't those other unions try supporting police brutality?
 
2020-10-26 8:09:20 AM  

PaulRB: styckx: Here is the problem..

The Police Benevolent Association, one of the largest police unions representing New York City officers, endorsed President Donald Trump's bid for re-election back in August.

If officers can't promote a political party on the job then the unions representing those officers shouldn't be able to either. It's bias by proxy...

Here's the problem for The Police Benevolent Association as of election day: no more Donald Trump in the White House and no more Republican Senate.   Maybe they should stop being creepy lowlifes who support the cops no matter what horrendous things they do.

Maybe the same rules that apply to members of the military should be applied to all local cops via federal regulation.  Then, the local cops can no longer be the KKK with badges.


The stench of corrupt bacon permeates New York, Los Angeles and everywhere else in America.
 
2020-10-26 8:10:18 AM  

Chain Smokes Freely: I'm not surprised the cops are pushing back against the group think madness. I mean, when this is allowed to happen ...

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... what do you expect?


Obviously there has to be a ban on buckets.
 
2020-10-26 8:10:58 AM  
styckx:

If officers can't promote a political party on the job then the unions representing those officers shouldn't be able to either. It's bias by proxy...

No do teachers unions . . .
 
2020-10-26 8:11:11 AM  
Um... ok.
Baby steps but in the right direction, all that.
I am gonna make a wild guess and assume this cop's love of Trump is in some way related to his hatred for and fear of police accountability
 
2020-10-26 8:14:47 AM  
Can't wait (actually I can) to see the PBA response to this.
 
2020-10-26 8:15:01 AM  

Chain Smokes Freely: I'm not surprised the cops are pushing back against the group think madness. I mean, when this is allowed to happen ...

[YouTube video: Videos show NYPD officers being doused with water]

... what do you expect?


Whatever could have provoked this???

And water?  WATER YOU SAY?!?!?!?

ERMAGERDDDD!!1!1!1!11!!1!1!1!1
 
2020-10-26 8:15:32 AM  
So basically everyone thinking "wow, without pay?" Seems to have forgotten that he will have a GoFundMe with 6 figures by the end of the week and will be on Fox News at least three times in that same span.  Don't believe me? Remember the poor oppressed salon owner in Texas?  Granted, she had to deal with Ted Cruz, but still!
 
2020-10-26 8:16:52 AM  

433: CruiserTwelve: styckx: If officers can't promote a political party on the job then the unions representing those officers shouldn't be able to either. It's bias by proxy...

It's also constitutionally protected free speech.

No it isn't, Mr. CruiserTwelve, not when you're on the job on behalf of the gov't and what are you even talking about?


Yeah but the specific topic in the thread of comments to which you are responding is what the union can say, not what individual cops can say on the job.
 
2020-10-26 8:17:47 AM  

Naido: The NYPD News provided an update Sunday afternoon that said the officer was suspended without pay effective immediately while he was under investigation.

Boy, I hope they've got their best detectives on the case.


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2020-10-26 8:18:46 AM  

DannyBrandt: Why are police unions a-okay with Republicans, but all other unions are bad?

Don't  even bother answering, we all know why.


I also wish that people who supported unions today would remember that the danger of police unions (or other unions of other government workers) was well-understood by the American labor rights movement and supporting them was considered a necessary evil like the founding fathers accepting slavery because they couldn't win unless the South helped them. A labor union is a tool to increase the bargaining power of its members against the company owners. In the case of public employees the "owners" are theoretically the American people themselves and the policies against which the union struggles are theoretically those chosen through the democratic process, so a police union is opposed both to the public interest and to democracy itself.
 
2020-10-26 8:25:16 AM  

PaulRB: styckx: Here is the problem..

The Police Benevolent Association, one of the largest police unions representing New York City officers, endorsed President Donald Trump's bid for re-election back in August.

If officers can't promote a political party on the job then the unions representing those officers shouldn't be able to either. It's bias by proxy...

Here's the problem for The Police Benevolent Association as of election day: no more Donald Trump in the White House and no more Republican Senate.   Maybe they should stop being creepy lowlifes who support the cops no matter what horrendous things they do.

Maybe the same rules that apply to members of the military should be applied to all local cops via federal regulation.  Then, the local cops can no longer be the KKK with badges.


Have you seen their leadership. They are the lowlife creepy cops who they represent.
 
2020-10-26 8:26:16 AM  

Alphax: It's certainly a bad look when a cop is advertising for the worst organized crime family in town.


That police support the country's largest criminal tells you everything you need to know about police.
 
2020-10-26 8:29:14 AM  
My only takeaway from this and other stories like it is that Trumpers are get desperate - and that they have the potential for aggressiveness, lawbreaking and violence.

.....oh - and a full audit of police personnel needs to take place, nationwide.
 
2020-10-26 8:31:49 AM  

Klyukva: DannyBrandt: Why are police unions a-okay with Republicans, but all other unions are bad?

Don't  even bother answering, we all know why.

I also wish that people who supported unions today would remember that the danger of police unions (or other unions of other government workers) was well-understood by the American labor rights movement and supporting them was considered a necessary evil like the founding fathers accepting slavery because they couldn't win unless the South helped them. A labor union is a tool to increase the bargaining power of its members against the company owners. In the case of public employees the "owners" are theoretically the American people themselves and the policies against which the union struggles are theoretically those chosen through the democratic process, so a police union is opposed both to the public interest and to democracy itself.


100% correct.

I support private sector unions.  I do not support public sector unions.  As you rightly point out, there is a different power dynamic in the public sector that can be exploited to the detriment of society as a whole.
 
2020-10-26 8:32:29 AM  

CruiserTwelve: styckx: If officers can't promote a political party on the job then the unions representing those officers shouldn't be able to either. It's bias by proxy...

It's also constitutionally protected free speech.

If the officer wants to march at a Trump rally or do anything in his private life to advocate for Trump's reelection, he should be free to do so. But he did this in uniform from his government issued patrol vehicle, acting as an agent of the police department. That is not what the taxpayers are paying him for. Its like he's an NFL player kneeling to protest police brutality and they get criticized all the time ("Shut up and play."). Except he is a government employee and holds a position of responsibility that can actually intimidate people and they are entertainers.
 
2020-10-26 8:32:50 AM  
Can we use Racketeering laws to go after toxic police unions?
 
2020-10-26 8:33:30 AM  

Chain Smokes Freely: I'm not surprised the cops are pushing back against the group think madness. I mean, when this is allowed to happen ...

[YouTube video: Videos show NYPD officers being doused with water]

... what do you expect?


The cops to pull a weapon and shoot. Or were they the lone good cops in a barrel of bad apples? Either way, I throw the barrel out.
 
2020-10-26 8:34:51 AM  
Without pay? Call me chauvinist but I suggest a different punishment.

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8 minutes 46 seconds W. O. O. He can file an appeal with the King of the Potato People
 
2020-10-26 8:36:38 AM  

Chain Smokes Freely: I'm not surprised the cops are pushing back against the group think madness. I mean, when this is allowed to happen ...

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/pWp49vzC​M_U?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]

... what do you expect?


yeramoran. I'm surprised they didn't respond with deadly force
 
2020-10-26 8:36:57 AM  

notto: styckx:

If officers can't promote a political party on the job then the unions representing those officers shouldn't be able to either. It's bias by proxy...

No do teachers unions . . .


I wasn't aware teachers were allowed to use force against the public whenever they felt like it.
 
2020-10-26 8:39:37 AM  

UNC_Samurai: notto: styckx:

If officers can't promote a political party on the job then the unions representing those officers shouldn't be able to either. It's bias by proxy...

No do teachers unions . . .

I wasn't aware teachers were allowed to use force against the public whenever they felt like it.


I think there are states in which in remains legal for teachers to employ corporal punishment against students.

Which is rather f*cked up.
 
2020-10-26 8:52:02 AM  
this isnt politics or political messaging

its intimidation pure and simple
New York has not voted Republican since Ronald Reagan in the 1984 election

everyone knows this and that cop is saying trump to let folks know where they stand.

the person who called him a fascist was right on the money
 
2020-10-26 8:59:33 AM  

CruiserTwelve: styckx: If officers can't promote a political party on the job then the unions representing those officers shouldn't be able to either. It's bias by proxy...

It's also constitutionally protected free speech.


Not when he is on duty.

Just like I can't put up campaign posters at my job.

Job's have rules. Being a cop SHOULD have rules.

/oink
 
2020-10-26 9:02:54 AM  
The SOP is if some one is suspended with pay that means they are being let go. If suspended without pay, it means that you have been punished and you still have your job.
It is not always like this, but more often than not. So that cop probably has a job to go back to when it blows over.
 
2020-10-26 9:05:36 AM  
To be honest, I don't get the whole 'without pay' dunk the mayor's office is pulling here. This is precinct/squad level discipline, but he instead helps make it national news.

It's just another example of how DeBlasio - going back to his failed presidential ambitions - is attempting to assign the entire nation's policing problems onto the NYPD.

Many of these officers remember the way the NYPD was 'respected' after 9/11, when NYC had low crime and the support of Bloomberg's administration.

Now take the current environment - where they have to stand by and watch crime occur, or see criminals get only appearance tickets after they're arrested. They stand there and listen to protestors, with whom the mayor sides, call them bastards, pigs, killers, and nazis.

No, I'm not surprised - out of 35,000 MOS - one jackass tries to troll these protestors. I'm not suprised he's lost the union. This asshat is probably a bad cop, could be he doesn't belong on the force. I fully agree he should be disciplined.

This is the kicker for me, from Bill:
"Let me be clear: ANY NYPD Officer pushing ANY political agenda while on duty will face consequences," the mayor said. "We will act fast here, and this will not be tolerated."

I'm sure if Officer Jackass was saying 'DeBlasio 2020' - he'd be suspended without pay. Riiiiiight.

It disgusts how this mayor has demonized the NYPD for his political gain; it does not surprise me at all that their union supports the Orange Jackass who at least appears to have their backs (for his own political agenda).
 
2020-10-26 9:07:39 AM  

UNC_Samurai: notto: styckx:

If officers can't promote a political party on the job then the unions representing those officers shouldn't be able to either. It's bias by proxy...

Now do teachers unions . . .

I wasn't aware teachers were allowed to use force against the public whenever they felt like it.


Move them goalposts!  styckx didn't say anything about use of force.  What does that have to do with anything and how is it related to his statement?
 
2020-10-26 9:18:35 AM  
The best way to get people to hate Trump, is to have the NYPD promote him while on duty.

If New Yorkers didn't hate him already.
 
2020-10-26 9:38:06 AM  

Weird Hal: Without pay? Call me chauvinist but I suggest a different punishment.

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8 minutes 46 seconds W. O. O. He can file an appeal with the King of the Potato People


We just want to give his life meaning.
 
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