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(The Hill)   If there's anyone who knows about fossils, it's 80s dinosaur Larry Kudlow   (thehill.com) divider line
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1395 clicks; posted to Politics » on 25 Oct 2020 at 11:20 PM (4 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2020-10-25 8:04:26 PM  
So we shouldn't even try?  Or maybe fix it with tax cuts?
 
2020-10-25 8:31:00 PM  
It's sad to think that he's worked for Trump so long that he forgot that goals were a thing....
 
2020-10-25 11:23:41 PM  
"That Biden guy is too optimistic."

Actual Republican "criticism".
 
2020-10-25 11:24:07 PM  
You can put me in the group that doesn't give a flying fark what Larry Kudlow thinks. I don't give a shiat if he's right, or wrong.
 
2020-10-25 11:28:15 PM  
Just go on another coke binge Larry and fade into obscurity,

Thanks.
 
2020-10-25 11:29:17 PM  
> Kudlow says Biden wouldn't be able to replace fossil fuels in 15 years


Why do I hear the jeering audience from Married with Children in my head after reading these kinds of headines: "Jackoff A says Jackoff B can't do C!"

"oooOOOooh!"
 
2020-10-25 11:29:31 PM  
We want companies to come back to the US. And we'll provide tax incentives to do that.

So long as those companies would rather pay their workers 35 cents an hour to do the same thing that America would require at least minimum wage to do, and follow business and environmental law that the countries they're currently in don't give a shiat about, those companies aren't coming back. Tax incentives aren't enough. You would literally need the US government to pay companies to come back to work in the US, otherwise known as subsidies.

In a sane and just America, we would have told those companies they need to pay to play at the very least, and at best told them to just emigrate to other countries if they're unwilling to abide by the laws established by the United States.
 
2020-10-25 11:31:30 PM  
For once, I agree with Kudlow.  Biden couldn't do it in 15.

Probably more like 12 years.
 
2020-10-25 11:35:34 PM  

LeoffDaGrate: For once, I agree with Kudlow.  Biden couldn't do it in 15.

Probably more like 12 years.


Why is it never framed as "Larry Kudlow doesn't think Americans are capable of doing it in 15 years."  Hit them in the pride.
 
2020-10-25 11:36:22 PM  
If the Chinese can make a solar farm like this:

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We can certainly get rid of fossil fuel dependency.
 
2020-10-25 11:36:49 PM  
The thing I have never been able to understand from child hood on, if you don't believe in global warming pollution is still bad, why not do everything to reduce it as soon as possible, why can't we be free of it if we try, what are the major limitations?
 
2020-10-25 11:37:38 PM  
Oblig:

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2020-10-25 11:45:28 PM  

FatherChaos: If the Chinese can make a solar farm like this:

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We can certainly get rid of fossil fuel dependency.


Dear Space Aliens
Earth has bears. Kindly fark off.
-China

/that solar farm is useful for more than just solar power.
//Nazca spider is a good warning: Earth has NOPE.
 
2020-10-25 11:51:22 PM  
"President Trump is going to have additional tax cuts," Kudlow added. "He's going to have middle-class tax cuts. He's going to try to make the business tax cuts deeper and permanent. We're going to have on-shoring. We want companies to come back to the US. And we'll provide tax incentives to do that."

but of course none of this was able to happen the last 4 years. and only idiots think it will happen the next 4 years (under trump)
 
2020-10-25 11:59:05 PM  
100%? No. Because FFs surround you, they're embedded throughout our economy.

Wind and solar aren't even close to their potential (which is why people talking about lack of wind periods in 2020 have donkey brains). Neither are batteries or EVs for that matter. Also, they're much more efficient which is why 2018 was likely US peak energy consumption. Cheap rooftop will fundamentally change the energy paradigm that's been precedent for over a century. EV2grid pooling as well, and better diagnostics will lead to markets for second life batteries.

It's all coming one way or another, the hard part is going to be all the other shiat outside of electricity/road transport.
 
2020-10-26 12:10:35 AM  
There's a new Hummer coming out. It's electric.
 
2020-10-26 12:17:18 AM  
The real goal is probably 50 years, but if you say 50, it comes 80.

You need some stretch there. 15? Yeah, let's treat it like the moon shot.
 
2020-10-26 12:26:05 AM  
Meanwhile, i had to sit in ABB's webinar detailing their switchboard design for modifying existing gas stations to add a few rapid EV charging stations last spring because I needed the PDH. It was surprisingly pretty cookie cutter and straight forward. Not that i'd actually have any experience or knowledge about the charger themselves. Black box for me. But has to get power from somewhere. Thats what I care about.

So... getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2020-10-26 12:43:55 AM  
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2020-10-26 1:23:57 AM  
Larry Kudlow has never been right about anything. So wile I didn't think 15 years was feasible, now I have to concede that Kudlow has convinced me. No more fossil fuels by 2035.
 
2020-10-26 2:38:58 AM  
Reminder: the US could save ordinary people BILLIONS of dollars in electricity costs if the East-West power grid was fixed.
There was a paper written on it but oil and coal companies realised it could cost them money. Now no one is allowed to read said paper.
That's why the US can't do much about climate change.
 
2020-10-26 3:50:52 AM  

WeedBong420: 100%? No. Because FFs surround you, they're embedded throughout our economy.

Wind and solar aren't even close to their potential (which is why people talking about lack of wind periods in 2020 have donkey brains). Neither are batteries or EVs for that matter. Also, they're much more efficient which is why 2018 was likely US peak energy consumption. Cheap rooftop will fundamentally change the energy paradigm that's been precedent for over a century. EV2grid pooling as well, and better diagnostics will lead to markets for second life batteries.

It's all coming one way or another, the hard part is going to be all the other shiat outside of electricity/road transport.


Your comment is wonderful and reasonable.

Kudlow is an idiot and he is trolling. Is there anybody... Biden, AOC, Mark Jacobsen at Stanford... anybody... who has said that 0% fossil fuels is a goal, stretch goal or otherwise? I don't think so. Kudlow is hoping that some idiot liberal will say..., "nuh uh.... it is sssoooo doable!"

Over time, we will see amazing things. But please everybody, let's not let idiots of the Trump Administration set an impossible agenda, get everyone to commit to it, and then watch the failure unfold. Let's be smart.
 
2020-10-26 4:07:47 AM  
Over the years, I have been entertained and inspired by Mark Jacobson of Stanford and Amory Lovins of the Rocky Mountain Institute. There must be others who have predicted a society run off of 100% renewables, but these two guys have some particularly fun ideas and interesting approaches. They have been looking at the issues and progress carefully for decades. Frankly I am more of an Amory Lovins guy as far as that goes.

Have a look at their speeches on YouTube. They are fun. As far as I know, neither of them would go along with a 15 year timeline, and these guys proo...obably have done the math 100 times or more. They make no specific predictions, but I seem to recall that Jacobson never got nailed down to a less than 20 year timeline. Amory Lovins would probably say that no effort is necessary if people would stop being so stupid. haha. He is right. Or is he?

I do not know where this 15 year time limit came from. First time I have ever heard it. I think it came from Kudlows brain.
 
2020-10-26 6:49:45 AM  
Larry "laughably wrong" Kramer thinks what?

Can't wean auto industry off of oil in 15 years?

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2020-10-26 7:27:49 AM  
Kudlow is probably technically correct, although I suspect that there is a very good chance that in 15 years electric is gonna be standard on all vehicles, and you will not have new cars being produced using it.

Even without Biden, renewables have advanced to the point where they are now the cheapest way to make elecricity.  In a couple of years new electric motors vehicles will cost the same as gas powered, and a couple years after that they will be cheaper.

Once that happens, it is all over for big oil.
 
2020-10-26 9:44:21 AM  
Wouldn't fossil fuel still be needed to build future infrastructure for renewables?

Obviously that would be a big improvement in any event
 
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