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2020-10-25 10:12:49 AM  
How do we know that Jerry Jones didn't receive total enlightenment when he died?
 
2020-10-25 11:08:10 AM  
As long as Citizens United is a thing, the players' union should start a PAC specifically to support the interests of their membership.

The racist white QBs who complain can choose to not be in the players' union.
 
2020-10-25 12:48:16 PM  

dv-ous: As long as Citizens United is a thing, the players' union should start a PAC specifically to support the interests of their membership.

The racist white QBs who complain can choose to not be in the players' union.


*cough*Ben*cough*
 
2020-10-25 12:48:22 PM  
It was entirely about one thing, avoiding a player's strike.
 
2020-10-25 12:49:15 PM  
Pro football only exists to recruit for the military and subliminally manipulate its audience to stay in line.
 
2020-10-25 12:51:41 PM  
No.  Not anyone with brain cells.
 
2020-10-25 12:51:42 PM  
Black lives matter.  Rich farks not paying taxes on anything, ever, just matters a little bit more.
 
2020-10-25 12:52:34 PM  

J45Picker: Pro football only exists to recruit for the military and subliminally manipulate its audience to stay in line.


Also public spectacle for injuries. Football players injure themselves and others for our entertainment.
 
2020-10-25 12:56:46 PM  
Everything is bullshiat about any publicly traded company.
 
2020-10-25 12:58:05 PM  
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2020-10-25 12:58:14 PM  

Weatherkiss: J45Picker: Pro football only exists to recruit for the military and subliminally manipulate its audience to stay in line.

Also public spectacle for injuries. Football players injure themselves and others for our entertainment.


Our racist system has left black people out of advancing and ,thanks to the crime bill ,many people feel the only way out of poverty and jail for their children is professional sports.
I don't believe it is a good idea to eliminate the one way whitey will let them into the club.
 
2020-10-25 12:59:08 PM  
"isn't burning their mayonnaise-infused race-based biscuits"  because mayonnaise is white.
 
2020-10-25 1:00:49 PM  
Bosses who call themselves "owners" are racist?
 
2020-10-25 1:01:03 PM  
I don't think anyone thought the BLM stuff was being driven by the owners or league bureaucracy.
 
2020-10-25 1:02:45 PM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: Black lives matter.  Rich farks not paying taxes on anything, ever, just matters a little bit more.


It's like the conservative position on abortion. They are so worried about stopping abortions at all cost, until you point out that sex education and birth control are the best ways to reduce the number of abortions.  Then they feel that the cost isn't worth the result.
 
2020-10-25 1:06:11 PM  
You understand Get Out was real? It was a critique of white liberals treatment of African Americans. African American vote will be higher than what Bush received in 2004.
 
2020-10-25 1:06:34 PM  
I'm skeptical of anything from The Root, even if I agree with it. These days they're much more interested in clicks than actual reporting.
 
2020-10-25 1:10:21 PM  

FnkyTwn: I'm skeptical of anything from The Root, even if I agree with it. These days they're much more interested in clicks than actual reporting.


Change 'clicks' to 'avoiding being a target of leftist outrage and subsequent bad press' and you can substitute 'the root' with pretty much 99% of the companies AND people who support BLM.
 
2020-10-25 1:13:46 PM  
This thread never had a chance
 
2020-10-25 1:16:15 PM  

dv-ous: As long as Citizens United is a thing, the players' union should start a PAC specifically to support the interests of their membership.

The racist white QBs who complain can choose to not be in the players' union.


I find it funny that you think democrats support the interests of black americans.  Fir 50 years they passed all the legislation that all the protests are against and now you are expecting them to be different THIS time.

It's the same with those assanine people that think we will be successful implementing socialism here this time.

Wink wink.
 
2020-10-25 1:18:25 PM  

dwrash: dv-ous: As long as Citizens United is a thing, the players' union should start a PAC specifically to support the interests of their membership.

The racist white QBs who complain can choose to not be in the players' union.

I find it funny that you think democrats support the interests of black americans.  Fir 50 years they passed all the legislation that all the protests are against and now you are expecting them to be different THIS time.

It's the same with those assanine people that think we will be successful implementing socialism here this time.

Wink wink.


I find it funny that you paste this sort of drivel in here and can't even be arsed to see if the post your quoting contains references to any of the things you're talking about.
 
2020-10-25 1:23:58 PM  
No other sport has such a grotesque adulation of its owners.
 
2020-10-25 1:36:06 PM  

FnkyTwn: [Fark user image image 425x318]


Sent from Vladivostok
 
2020-10-25 1:44:46 PM  

dwrash: dv-ous: As long as Citizens United is a thing, the players' union should start a PAC specifically to support the interests of their membership.

The racist white QBs who complain can choose to not be in the players' union.

I find it funny that you think democrats support the interests of black americans.  Fir 50 years they passed all the legislation that all the protests are against and now you are expecting them to be different THIS time.

It's the same with those assanine people that think we will be successful implementing socialism here this time.

Wink wink.


Who do you want to be indentured to?

A government of the people, for the people, by the people?

Or a private corporation who views you as disposable fodder when the bottom line is less than exponential growth?

Think king and hard about this one. Because your initial knee jerk reaction is wrong.
 
2020-10-25 1:49:54 PM  
Sure, the NFL cares. In Kansas City they even have an "End Racism" sign in their end zones... right behind the giant "CHIEFS" stencils.
 
2020-10-25 1:53:24 PM  

Night Train to Wakanda: dwrash: dv-ous: As long as Citizens United is a thing, the players' union should start a PAC specifically to support the interests of their membership.

The racist white QBs who complain can choose to not be in the players' union.

I find it funny that you think democrats support the interests of black americans.  Fir 50 years they passed all the legislation that all the protests are against and now you are expecting them to be different THIS time.

It's the same with those assanine people that think we will be successful implementing socialism here this time.

Wink wink.

Who do you want to be indentured to?

A government of the people, for the people, by the people?

Or a private corporation who views you as disposable fodder when the bottom line is less than exponential growth?


More like a government who views you as disposable fodder when the bottom line is less than exponential power over you?
 
2020-10-25 1:55:08 PM  
Colin Kaepernick remaining unsigned showed that these were empty gestures.

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Catlenfell: It was entirely about one thing, avoiding a player's strike.


This.

I would've preferred a players' strike instead of 17+ regular season games and 14 playoff teams.
 
2020-10-25 1:55:42 PM  
You would think they would donate toward their interests.  Having a inept government response to Covid can't be good for their bottom line.
 
2020-10-25 1:58:02 PM  
 
2020-10-25 2:02:59 PM  

Night Train to Wakanda: dwrash: dv-ous: As long as Citizens United is a thing, the players' union should start a PAC specifically to support the interests of their membership.

The racist white QBs who complain can choose to not be in the players' union.

I find it funny that you think democrats support the interests of black americans.  Fir 50 years they passed all the legislation that all the protests are against and now you are expecting them to be different THIS time.

It's the same with those assanine people that think we will be successful implementing socialism here this time.

Wink wink.

Who do you want to be indentured to?

A government of the people, for the people, by the people?

Or a private corporation who views you as disposable fodder when the bottom line is less than exponential growth?

Think king and hard about this one. Because your initial knee jerk reaction is wrong.


Private corporations can come and go and we can decide how rich they can get.

Unfortunately our politics are also ruled by two private corporations.  The Democratic Corporation or the Republican Corporation.. unfortunately, their operating methodology is based on selling lies.
 
2020-10-25 2:04:12 PM  
They may not be donating, but they aren't visibly opposing BLM or the players' actions in calling out systematic racism, so at least there is progress.

Did anybody expect the NFL to completely turn things around? It's enough that steps were made in the right direction. Social change is long overdue, I get that, but don't expect it overnight.
 
2020-10-25 2:08:55 PM  

FnkyTwn: [Fark user image 425x318]


I love how they all say they want to honor the flag when the shiathead in chief wipes his orange mouth and pasty white ass all over it.
 
2020-10-25 2:09:03 PM  

webron: Olympic Trolling Judge: Black lives matter.  Rich farks not paying taxes on anything, ever, just matters a little bit more.

It's like the conservative position on abortion. They are so worried about stopping abortions at all cost, until you point out that sex education and birth control are the best ways to reduce the number of abortions.  Then they feel that the cost isn't worth the result.


That's because their religion has made it impossible for them to compromise, especially on the issue of abortion. The hardliners view abortion as straight up baby murder, and just like how America doesn't negotiate with terrorists, they don't see why they should be negotiating with murderers. They don't understand why we should fund programs that would reduce people's likelihood to choose to murder their baby when we could just straight up outlaw baby murder altogether. They also fail to understand that outlawing something doesn't make it stop, but they also live in a weird fantasy world where if they just make the country's enforced values match The Handmaiden's Tale, surely then the divine creator will open the skies and suck their boring, oppressive asses up to Heaven, and let the rest of us get back to reality.
 
2020-10-25 2:11:56 PM  
Did I think it was earnest?  Obviously not across the boards.  Especially not at the highest levels.

However, I was hopeful that this signaled a more permanent recognition of the changes going on in America.

Might still.  It's proven one thing.  We do, in fact, have power to force these kinds of changes.  If we keep the pressure on, they will keep the changes.
 
2020-10-25 2:23:10 PM  
Yeah, I've met and worked with Jay-Z and found him to be a whip-smart genius.

But pairing with the NFL does not seem to be among his best moments.
 
2020-10-25 2:23:28 PM  

Night Train to Wakanda: A government of the people, for the people, by the people?


It grates on me when I see certain things applied in what I feel to be inappropriate situations.

*waves hand in the back of the room*

*waves both hands*

*frantically waves both hands*

*starts talking over the teacher*

President Abraham Lincoln's use of "...government of the people, by the people, and for the people..." were not his own creation.

One of his law partners brought copies back from Boston of some speeches and sermons by Theodore Parker, a prominent man of his day. President Lincoln liked them so much that the quoted phrase must have stuck in his head.

The quote originated, as best as can be determined, from the foreword of a Bible's translation in the 14th century. If it was used after that but before Parker did so, it has never been found.

I wish I could remember precisely what I'm thinking of because it is going to bug me until it pops into my head at some random time in the near future, but I spotted President Barack Obama using a Parker line in his A More Perfect Union speech I believe it was. I expected Chris Matthews or Jon Meacham to mention it but if they did, I missed it.

Doris Kearns Goodwin is awesome. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming, carry on.
 
2020-10-25 2:24:29 PM  
FTFA:
According to OpenSecrets.org, "NFL team owners and their spouses have donated $4.2 million to politicians and PACs so far this election cycle, with 85 percent ($3.6 million) going to Republicans. Only $377,000 went to Democrats..."


Makes me wonder what the numbers are for NFL players (current and retired)
 
2020-10-25 2:29:04 PM  

Weatherkiss: J45Picker: Pro football only exists to recruit for the military and subliminally manipulate its audience to stay in line.

Also public spectacle for injuries. Football players injure themselves and others for our entertainment.


People love a good spectacle.

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2020-10-25 2:30:05 PM  

Bonzo_1116: FTFA:
According to OpenSecrets.org, "NFL team owners and their spouses have donated $4.2 million to politicians and PACs so far this election cycle, with 85 percent ($3.6 million) going to Republicans. Only $377,000 went to Democrats..."


Makes me wonder what the numbers are for NFL players (current and retired)


I don't think it is a fair comparison. No one asks how much the factory worker gives compared to the factory owner. The wealth is significantly different between the bosses and the owners. The problem we should have is how cheap Republicans and especially Democrats have sold the workers out.
 
2020-10-25 2:30:34 PM  
bosses and workers grrr
 
2020-10-25 2:48:40 PM  

Night Train to Wakanda: dwrash: dv-ous: As long as Citizens United is a thing, the players' union should start a PAC specifically to support the interests of their membership.

The racist white QBs who complain can choose to not be in the players' union.

I find it funny that you think democrats support the interests of black americans.  Fir 50 years they passed all the legislation that all the protests are against and now you are expecting them to be different THIS time.

It's the same with those assanine people that think we will be successful implementing socialism here this time.

Wink wink.

Who do you want to be indentured to?

A government of the people, for the people, by the people?

Or a private corporation who views you as disposable fodder when the bottom line is less than exponential growth?

Think king and hard about this one. Because your initial knee jerk reaction is wrong.


Coca-Cola's death squads notwithstanding, I pick the one whose idea of holding absolute power over someone doesn't involve imprisonment and death but instead involves paying $15/hour instead of $20.
 
2020-10-25 3:11:44 PM  

tfresh: Night Train to Wakanda: dwrash: dv-ous: As long as Citizens United is a thing, the players' union should start a PAC specifically to support the interests of their membership.

The racist white QBs who complain can choose to not be in the players' union.

I find it funny that you think democrats support the interests of black americans.  Fir 50 years they passed all the legislation that all the protests are against and now you are expecting them to be different THIS time.

It's the same with those assanine people that think we will be successful implementing socialism here this time.

Wink wink.

Who do you want to be indentured to?

A government of the people, for the people, by the people?

Or a private corporation who views you as disposable fodder when the bottom line is less than exponential growth?

More like a government who views you as disposable fodder when the bottom line is less than exponential power over you?


We abolished the draft for that exact thing.
 
2020-10-25 3:14:39 PM  

WoodyHayes: Night Train to Wakanda: A government of the people, for the people, by the people?

It grates on me when I see certain things applied in what I feel to be inappropriate situations.

*waves hand in the back of the room*

*waves both hands*

*frantically waves both hands*

*starts talking over the teacher*

President Abraham Lincoln's use of "...government of the people, by the people, and for the people..." were not his own creation.

One of his law partners brought copies back from Boston of some speeches and sermons by Theodore Parker, a prominent man of his day. President Lincoln liked them so much that the quoted phrase must have stuck in his head.

The quote originated, as best as can be determined, from the foreword of a Bible's translation in the 14th century. If it was used after that but before Parker did so, it has never been found.

I wish I could remember precisely what I'm thinking of because it is going to bug me until it pops into my head at some random time in the near future, but I spotted President Barack Obama using a Parker line in his A More Perfect Union speech I believe it was. I expected Chris Matthews or Jon Meacham to mention it but if they did, I missed it.

Doris Kearns Goodwin is awesome. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming, carry on.


Does this somehow alter the intention and the meaning behind "a government of the people, by the people, for the people"? No. Then thanks for the double jeopardy answer, I guess.
 
2020-10-25 3:26:09 PM  
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2020-10-25 3:34:18 PM  

J45Picker: Pro football only exists to recruit for the military and subliminally manipulate its audience to stay in line.


Pro football exists to (in order of importance):
1. Pander to owner's egos.  *Everything* comes after this.
2. Make money for owners.  Goodell is good at this, that's why they keep him around.  But he can't interfere with the owners and their toys or he gets tossed.
[Detritus didn't make this list, nothing else is close to being as important as those two.]
lots. Help make the US+world even more a billionaire's playground.  Since that is the primary job of the US military, you can expect some support.

Advernaut: Everything is bullshiat about any publicly traded company.


Nothing publicly traded about the NFL (except Green Bay).  Private Equity has more opportunities for bullshait than publicly traded corporations can imagine.  But yes, public traded companies are bullshait as well.

Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image 850x853]

Source: http://www.thedrawplay.com/comic/the-n​fl-makes-a-statement/


I remain gobsmacked that NASCAR is the only corporate entity that made any meaningful changes during this whole debacle (banning confederate flags).  Whodathunkit?

webron: Olympic Trolling Judge: Black lives matter.  Rich farks not paying taxes on anything, ever, just matters a little bit more.

It's like the conservative position on abortion. They are so worried about stopping abortions at all cost, until you point out that sex education and birth control are the best ways to reduce the number of abortions.  Then they feel that the cost isn't worth the result.


Since when have they ever been about reducing abortions?  Just making them illegal.  They want women (and girls) to die in back alleys for having sex.  They also want to be able to look smugly at being able to say "we made that all illegal, and wash their hands of it.  See prohibition 1&2 for other examples of happily banning something and ignoring the consequences (up to and including poisoning the population to maintain it).

Klyukva: Night Train to Wakanda: dwrash: dv-ous: As long as Citizens United is a thing, the players' union [... quote deleted]Coca-Cola's death squads notwithstanding, I pick the one whose idea of holding absolute power over someone doesn't involve imprisonment and death but instead involves paying $15/hour instead of $20.


You may have noticed that debtors' prison is a thing once again in the US.  You also will find real quick just how expensive and dangerous it is to be broke in the US.  The libertarian mantra of "only governments have dangerous power" only works on privileged teenagers who haven't had to deal with the real world.
 
2020-10-25 3:48:12 PM  

dv-ous: As long as Citizens United is a thing, the players' union should start a PAC specifically to support the interests of their membership.

The racist white QBs who complain can choose to not be in the players' union.


The trouble is that the players see themselves as temporarily-embarrassed millionaires.

That's why the CBA passed, even though it's a shiat sandwich through and through. It was a lot like Brexit: Its backers tapped into an insecurities of an "I want mine, fark you" segment and fostered low voter turnout.
 
2020-10-25 3:49:40 PM  

sinner4ever: Bonzo_1116: FTFA:
According to OpenSecrets.org, "NFL team owners and their spouses have donated $4.2 million to politicians and PACs so far this election cycle, with 85 percent ($3.6 million) going to Republicans. Only $377,000 went to Democrats..."


Makes me wonder what the numbers are for NFL players (current and retired)

I don't think it is a fair comparison. No one asks how much the factory worker gives compared to the factory owner. The wealth is significantly different between the bosses and the owners. The problem we should have is how cheap Republicans and especially Democrats have sold the workers out.


NFL players with more than a few years on a practice squad are in a financial situation that would allow sizeable political donations.

Especially the guys with fame that allows juicy endorsement contracts and the cash that comes with them.

Not to mention that there's orderds of magnitude more players than owners.
 
2020-10-25 4:03:54 PM  

discotaco: Yeah, I've met and worked with Jay-Z and found him to be a whip-smart genius.

But pairing with the NFL does not seem to be among his best moments.


Jay-Z is a showman, first and foremost.  He understands the business of entertainment, and he understands that sport is entertainment of the most addictive kind...and he knows that football will be with us for decades to come.

It's a feast for the senses on TV: movement, strategy, *and* violence.  It's also why combat sports like boxing and MMA can still pull pay-per-view money
 
2020-10-25 4:08:02 PM  

dv-ous: As long as Citizens United is a thing, the players' union should start a PAC specifically to support the interests of their membership.

The racist white QBs who complain can choose to not be in the players' union.


Coulda had 3 more liberals on that bench now we have 3 more conservatives. And as such Citizen's United ain't goin anywhere.
 
2020-10-25 4:18:44 PM  

Catlenfell: It was entirely about one thing, avoiding a player's strike.


Well, the players fell for it
 
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