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2020-10-25 6:31:49 AM  
"I'll write it with old pencil, and I won't press too hard, because in a week or so, you'll be buried in the yard."
 
2020-10-25 8:09:43 AM  
That was the first Taylor Swift song I liked before my daughter got super into Taylor Swift. Now I like a lot of her songs and respect her as a songwriter.
 
2020-10-25 9:08:10 AM  
What was she supposed to do.

/Hums sorry not sorry
 
2020-10-25 9:48:18 AM  
He got married to the widow next door 
She's been married seven times before.
 
2020-10-25 9:50:29 AM  
So... Its good to be the king?
 
2020-10-25 9:51:00 AM  
Thanks, Trump.
 
2020-10-25 9:54:52 AM  
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The look in her eye, you just KNOW they banged...
 
2020-10-25 9:59:42 AM  
Man who was inadequate and to distract from this he brings women to trial on Trumped up charges, gets them convicted in a kangaroo court, and then has them murdered.

And the author points out how meticulous he was in organizing the murder, and this lends credibility that he is a monster......  I feel like I'm in a time machine here when I say this..... If his entire life has not been a screaming endorsement that this man is a monster then the observer is not going to change their minds based on how he detailed his plans to exact revenge on people who make him look bad.

/ It is blindingly obvious, anyone who refuses to see it has made a decision to not see it. Henry the VIII was a monster and much of the game of thrones intrigue hails from history such as this.
 
2020-10-25 10:05:12 AM  
He was the Donald Trump of his time
 
2020-10-25 10:06:49 AM  
Chilling to think I stood or walked over the spot where this happened. Tower of London is one of the most amazing things I have ever experienced. I had a strange sense of belonging in one particular room there, in the basement, near the well in the White tower. It wasn't a deja vu or past life feeling, it was more a very comfortable, homely feeling as if I could totally live there and be happy, spartan and bleak as it was. Better than living outside in the shiat and cattle, I guess. But I'm not sure I'd be cut out for medieval life or politics.

Let's face it, like any death penalty this was merely murder under protection of law, and there's a heap of court politics at play behind the scenes. It's like an amateur version of a group of junior high school girls, only slightly less bloody and damaging.
 
2020-10-25 10:07:42 AM  
Nothing can convince me that the line isn't "Starbucks lovers."

Nothing.
 
2020-10-25 10:12:49 AM  

LesserEvil: He was the Donald Trump of his time


There ain't no Elizabeth I gonna spring from his shroomy loins.
 
2020-10-25 10:13:44 AM  

MythDragon: He got married to the widow next door 
She's been married seven times before.


Every one was an 'Enery,
She wouldn't have a Willie or a Sam.....
 
2020-10-25 10:16:06 AM  

thanksagainandagain: LesserEvil: He was the Donald Trump of his time

There ain't no Elizabeth I gonna spring from his shroomy loins.


No?
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2020-10-25 10:17:49 AM  

jaylectricity: That was the first Taylor Swift song I liked before my daughter got super into Taylor Swift. Now I like a lot of her songs and respect her as a songwriter.


Yep, I agree. Took me a long time to pay attention to her but she's ok in my book.

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2020-10-25 10:17:55 AM  

LesserEvil: He was the Donald Trump of his time


So you're saying QAnon will remain as a Protestant sect in 500 years?
 
2020-10-25 10:21:41 AM  
I miss them good ol days
 
2020-10-25 10:22:24 AM  
Say what you want, the historical record reveals him as a sentimentalist. I wasn't expecting that, really.  Also, as a royal she probably was party to any number of treasonous conspiracies, if only through contingency.  It is the nature of royalty.
 
2020-10-25 10:26:28 AM  
no its henry
 
2020-10-25 10:26:47 AM  
I read that as "black space baby" and was disappointed when I clicked on the article.
 
2020-10-25 10:26:49 AM  

thealgorerhythm: LesserEvil: He was the Donald Trump of his time

So you're saying QAnon will remain as a Protestant sect in 500 years?


It's one now.
 
2020-10-25 10:34:28 AM  

Gubbo: What was she supposed to do.

/Hums sorry not sorry


Well she certainly wasn't going to be party to a threesome, that's for sure.
 
2020-10-25 10:37:18 AM  

Xzano: Man who was inadequate and to distract from this he brings women to trial on Trumped up charges, gets them convicted in a kangaroo court, and then has them murdered.

And the author points out how meticulous he was in organizing the murder, and this lends credibility that he is a monster......  I feel like I'm in a time machine here when I say this..... If his entire life has not been a screaming endorsement that this man is a monster then the observer is not going to change their minds based on how he detailed his plans to exact revenge on people who make him look bad.

/ It is blindingly obvious, anyone who refuses to see it has made a decision to not see it. Henry the VIII was a monster and much of the game of thrones intrigue hails from history such as this.


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This could not be the helmet of a depraved human being. Your honor, I demand an acquittal and an apology to his majesty Henry Tudor jr jr jr jr jr jr jr
 
2020-10-25 10:42:55 AM  

thanksagainandagain: LesserEvil: He was the Donald Trump of his time

There ain't no Elizabeth I gonna spring from his shroomy loins.


Door number 1:

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2020-10-25 10:44:32 AM  

LesserEvil: He was the Donald Trump of his time


"Art of the Steel" was his famous tome.
 
2020-10-25 11:01:42 AM  

gar1013: [static01.nyt.com image 600x330]
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The look in her eye, you just KNOW they banged...


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2020-10-25 11:04:57 AM  

Xzano: Man who was inadequate and to distract from this he brings women to trial on Trumped up charges, gets them convicted in a kangaroo court, and then has them murdered.

And the author points out how meticulous he was in organizing the murder, and this lends credibility that he is a monster......  I feel like I'm in a time machine here when I say this..... If his entire life has not been a screaming endorsement that this man is a monster then the observer is not going to change their minds based on how he detailed his plans to exact revenge on people who make him look bad.

/ It is blindingly obvious, anyone who refuses to see it has made a decision to not see it. Henry the VIII was a monster and much of the game of thrones intrigue hails from history such as this.


It's okay, man. He's dead.
 
2020-10-25 11:08:14 AM  

Flappyhead: gar1013: [static01.nyt.com image 600x330]
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The look in her eye, you just KNOW they banged...

[Fark user image 425x571]


I've already been in my bunk this morning, but I think I can manage going back for a few minutes.
 
2020-10-25 11:15:46 AM  

bfh0417: Xzano: Man who was inadequate and to distract from this he brings women to trial on Trumped up charges, gets them convicted in a kangaroo court, and then has them murdered.

And the author points out how meticulous he was in organizing the murder, and this lends credibility that he is a monster......  I feel like I'm in a time machine here when I say this..... If his entire life has not been a screaming endorsement that this man is a monster then the observer is not going to change their minds based on how he detailed his plans to exact revenge on people who make him look bad.

/ It is blindingly obvious, anyone who refuses to see it has made a decision to not see it. Henry the VIII was a monster and much of the game of thrones intrigue hails from history such as this.

It's okay, man. He's dead.


Right? He can't stand your sister up for prom a third time.
 
2020-10-25 11:15:59 AM  
This appears to be an attempt by the Guardian to belittle the beheading of the teacher in France. This not the anniversary of the event, and the archives have been there for many years. The research is nothing new. The only intent is to say, "Look, we do it, too."

/On the other hand, you should be able to say "I divorce you" three times to get rid of the troublesome old sow.
 
2020-10-25 11:16:06 AM  

LesserEvil: He was the Donald Trump of his time


Henry VIII was an intellectual. So, no.
 
2020-10-25 11:19:11 AM  
Contemporary accounts indicate he was actually a charming and generous person in his early life and early reign. Then he had a bad jousting accident. Then he started sleeping around, beheading all his wives/lovers, picking fights with the church, and launching disastrous military campaigns. Historians now believe that jousting accident, in addition to making him sedentary and fat, may have given him a brain injury and mood disorder.

Still a monster, but it didn't come out of nowhere.
 
2020-10-25 11:19:40 AM  
he had been "moved by pity" to spare her the more painful death of being "burned by fire"

Everyone knows that a hot stake is better than a cold chop.
 
2020-10-25 11:24:35 AM  

LesserEvil: He was the Donald Trump of his time


Oh come on, Henry wasn't that fat.
 
2020-10-25 11:25:22 AM  

Fabric_Man: Contemporary accounts indicate he was actually a charming and generous person in his early life and early reign. Then he had a bad jousting accident. Then he started sleeping around, beheading all his wives/lovers, picking fights with the church, and launching disastrous military campaigns. Historians now believe that jousting accident, in addition to making him sedentary and fat, may have given him a brain injury and mood disorder.

Still a monster, but it didn't come out of nowhere.


Ah-ha! We've found the solution then.

If we disbanded the Future Presidents' Jousting League, we'd all be far better off.
 
2020-10-25 11:30:29 AM  

englaja: Chilling to think I stood or walked over the spot where this happened. Tower of London is one of the most amazing things I have ever experienced. I had a strange sense of belonging in one particular room there, in the basement, near the well in the White tower. It wasn't a deja vu or past life feeling, it was more a very comfortable, homely feeling as if I could totally live there and be happy, spartan and bleak as it was. Better than living outside in the shiat and cattle, I guess. But I'm not sure I'd be cut out for medieval life or politics.

Let's face it, like any death penalty this was merely murder under protection of law, and there's a heap of court politics at play behind the scenes. It's like an amateur version of a group of junior high school girls, only slightly less bloody and damaging.


"...like any death penalty..."

You might as well say that any form of imprisonment is merely kidnapping under the law too. Better get rid of prisons.
 
2020-10-25 11:35:57 AM  

Xzano: Man who was inadequate and to distract from this he brings women to trial on Trumped up charges, gets them convicted in a kangaroo court, and then has them murdered.

And the author points out how meticulous he was in organizing the murder, and this lends credibility that he is a monster......  I feel like I'm in a time machine here when I say this..... If his entire life has not been a screaming endorsement that this man is a monster then the observer is not going to change their minds based on how he detailed his plans to exact revenge on people who make him look bad.

/ It is blindingly obvious, anyone who refuses to see it has made a decision to not see it. Henry the VIII was a monster and much of the game of thrones intrigue hails from history such as this.


A monster by 21st century standards? Sure, no question, but he lived in the 16th century and things were very different.

Firstly, he was never raised to be king. He had an older brother who was the heir apparent until his untimely death. Henry was studious, athletic, and very well liked. During his early reign he was very popular with the people and other nobles (of whom there weren't that many since the War of the Roses had depleted their numbers considerably).

He ran into two major problems. First was an heir. The question of succession was a major issue at the time. The War of the Roses had been a three decades long devastating conflict. The Tudor claim to the thrown was tenuous - Henry VII was not the legitimate heir, Richard III was - so there was always the fear of some long lost child from Ireland or Skye popping up claiming to be a long lost successor to the Yorkists. So, for Henry VIII having an heir was vital. Not only would this secure his family's dynasty, but it could potentially stave of another costly war.

The heir also needed to be male - at the time they weren't even sure if a woman could legally rule. The last time it had been tried was by Henry I's daughter Matilda. That led to a prolonged conflict called The Anarchy with King Steven. No one wanted more war. They also didn't have even a basic understanding of the biology of conception, so thinking the woman was responsible for the sex of the baby wasn't unusual thinking at the time. Henry needed a male heir and if Catharine of Aragorn couldn't deliver, then perhaps Anne could. Etc., etc.. The important thing here is that this wasn't just vanity. A male heir was needed to provide stability for the kingdom. No one wanted to rekindle a war of succession.

The second problem was that in 1563 Henry was injured in a jousting tourney while Anne was pregnant with their first child. Prior to this accident he had always been described as tall, handsome, athletic, and well liked. Afterwards his personality noticeably changed, likely due to a head injury, which we know today as a much more complex problem than doctors at the time would have been aware. He also injured his leg so badly it never healed leaving him with a weeping wound the remainder of his life and impacting his mobility. This is when the image of the corpulent tyrant began to emerge.

In the end he's a easy target to disparage but his decisions to cast wives aside were based on a very real need at the time to produce a male heir. Doing so wasn't about personal vanity, it was believed to be vital for the good of the whole nation.

In the end his desire for a male heir proved to be legitimate. His son Edward VI did rule for a short time but then Mary came along and we all know how that went. Only luck and a likely bout of uterine cancer spared us from a longer rule by Bloody Mary and gave us Elizabeth I.
 
2020-10-25 11:51:15 AM  
Dr Simon Schama History Spoof - Dead Ringers - BBC comedy
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2020-10-25 11:59:58 AM  

jaylectricity: That was the first Taylor Swift song I liked before my daughter got super into Taylor Swift. Now I like a lot of her songs and respect her as a songwriter.


Ryan Adams - Wildest Dreams (from '1989') (Official Audio)
Youtube qVCme_D7pV4


You might like this. He covered her entire album. It's kind of creepy in light of allegations against him and he's a farkhead in general so if there's a way you can get it without him making any money, I'd go that route.
 
2020-10-25 12:08:55 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: englaja: Chilling to think I stood or walked over the spot where this happened. Tower of London is one of the most amazing things I have ever experienced. I had a strange sense of belonging in one particular room there, in the basement, near the well in the White tower. It wasn't a deja vu or past life feeling, it was more a very comfortable, homely feeling as if I could totally live there and be happy, spartan and bleak as it was. Better than living outside in the shiat and cattle, I guess. But I'm not sure I'd be cut out for medieval life or politics.

Let's face it, like any death penalty this was merely murder under protection of law, and there's a heap of court politics at play behind the scenes. It's like an amateur version of a group of junior high school girls, only slightly less bloody and damaging.

"...like any death penalty..."

You might as well say that any form of imprisonment is merely kidnapping under the law too. Better get rid of prisons.


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2020-10-25 12:34:37 PM  
COLLYWOBBLES
 
2020-10-25 1:01:40 PM  
Well I won't vote for him now
 
2020-10-25 1:05:45 PM  
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2020-10-25 1:16:13 PM  

gar1013: [static01.nyt.com image 600x330]
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The look in her eye, you just KNOW they banged...


I sure would've.

/ were I younger
// and attractive
/// and wealthy....
 
2020-10-25 1:23:49 PM  

jaylectricity: That was the first Taylor Swift song I liked before my daughter got super into Taylor Swift. Now I like a lot of her songs and respect her as a songwriter.


I like her better when she was a country artist.
 
2020-10-25 1:32:54 PM  

Tyrosine: Xzano: Man who was inadequate and to distract from this he brings women to trial on Trumped up charges, gets them convicted in a kangaroo court, and then has them murdered.

And the author points out how meticulous he was in organizing the murder, and this lends credibility that he is a monster......  I feel like I'm in a time machine here when I say this..... If his entire life has not been a screaming endorsement that this man is a monster then the observer is not going to change their minds based on how he detailed his plans to exact revenge on people who make him look bad.

/ It is blindingly obvious, anyone who refuses to see it has made a decision to not see it. Henry the VIII was a monster and much of the game of thrones intrigue hails from history such as this.

A monster by 21st century standards? Sure, no question, but he lived in the 16th century and things were very different.

Firstly, he was never raised to be king. He had an older brother who was the heir apparent until his untimely death. Henry was studious, athletic, and very well liked. During his early reign he was very popular with the people and other nobles (of whom there weren't that many since the War of the Roses had depleted their numbers considerably).

He ran into two major problems. First was an heir. The question of succession was a major issue at the time. The War of the Roses had been a three decades long devastating conflict. The Tudor claim to the thrown was tenuous - Henry VII was not the legitimate heir, Richard III was - so there was always the fear of some long lost child from Ireland or Skye popping up claiming to be a long lost successor to the Yorkists. So, for Henry VIII having an heir was vital. Not only would this secure his family's dynasty, but it could potentially stave of another costly war.

The heir also needed to be male - at the time they weren't even sure if a woman could legally rule. The last time it had been tried was by Henry I's daughter Matilda. That led to a prolonged conflict called The Anarchy with King Steven. No one wanted more war. They also didn't have even a basic understanding of the biology of conception, so thinking the woman was responsible for the sex of the baby wasn't unusual thinking at the time. Henry needed a male heir and if Catharine of Aragorn couldn't deliver, then perhaps Anne could. Etc., etc.. The important thing here is that this wasn't just vanity. A male heir was needed to provide stability for the kingdom. No one wanted to rekindle a war of succession.

The second problem was that in 1563 Henry was injured in a jousting tourney while Anne was pregnant with their first child. Prior to this accident he had always been described as tall, handsome, athletic, and well liked. Afterwards his personality noticeably changed, likely due to a head injury, which we know today as a much more complex problem than doctors at the time would have been aware. He also injured his leg so badly it never healed leaving him with a weeping wound the remainder of his life and impacting his mobility. This is when the image of the corpulent tyrant began to emerge.

In the end he's a easy target to disparage but his decisions to cast wives aside were based on a very real need at the time to produce a male heir. Doing so wasn't about personal vanity, it was believed to be vital for the good of the whole nation.

In the end his desire for a male heir proved to be legitimate. His son Edward VI did rule for a short time but then Mary came along and we all know how that went. Only luck and a likely bout of uterine cancer spared us from a longer rule by Bloody Mary and gave us Elizabeth I.


Teach me more!  *claps excitedly*
 
2020-10-25 1:46:52 PM  

Flappyhead: gar1013: [static01.nyt.com image 600x330]
[images.forwardcdn.com image 370x201]

The look in her eye, you just KNOW they banged...

[Fark user image 425x571]


Can't believe any of that, unpossible.

I hereby demand written descriptions from the participants along with any video or still images created during the alleged session, and a new bunk curtain to allow multiple quiet research sessions to extensively study all the related documents and media in forensic detail. Frame by frame.  Expect results in four jars of coconut oil six months.
 
2020-10-25 1:48:23 PM  
Thora Hird's Nice History of Britain - Dead Ringers - BBC comedy
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2020-10-25 2:56:44 PM  

LesserEvil: He was the Donald Trump of his time


Yes. Trump is murdering ex-wifes. What that actual F is wrong with you?

2/10
 
2020-10-25 3:30:53 PM  

Fabric_Man: Contemporary accounts indicate he was actually a charming and generous person in his early life and early reign. Then he had a bad jousting accident. Then he started sleeping around, beheading all his wives/lovers, picking fights with the church, and launching disastrous military campaigns. Historians now believe that jousting accident, in addition to making him sedentary and fat, may have given him a brain injury and mood disorder.

Still a monster, but it didn't come out of nowhere.


Interesting read via wiki:

Late in life, Henry became obese, with a waist measurement of 54 inches (140 cm), and had to be moved about with the help of mechanical inventions. He was covered with painful, pus-filled boils and possibly suffered from gout. His obesity and other medical problems can be traced to the jousting accident in 1536 in which he suffered a leg wound. The accident reopened and aggravated an injury he had sustained years earlier, to the extent that his doctors found it difficult to treat. The chronic wound festered for the remainder of his life and became ulcerated, preventing him from maintaining the level of physical activity he had previously enjoyed. The jousting accident is also believed to have caused Henry's mood swings, which may have had a dramatic effect on his personality and temperament.[142][143]
The theory that Henry suffered from syphilis has been dismissed by most historians.[144][145] Historian Susan Maclean Kybett ascribes his demise to scurvy, which is caused by insufficient vitamin C most often due to a lack of fresh fruits and vegetables in ones diet.[146] Alternatively, his wives' pattern of pregnancies and his mental deterioration have led some to suggest that he may have been Kell positive and suffered from McLeod syndrome.[143][147] According to another study, Henry's history and body morphology may have been the result of traumatic brain injury after his 1536 jousting accident, which in turn led to a neuroendocrine cause of his obesity. This analysis identifies growth hormone deficiency (GHD) as the reason for his increased adiposity but also significant behavioural changes noted in his later years, including his multiple marriages.[148]
Henry's obesity hastened his death at the age of 55, on 28 January 1547 in the Palace of Whitehall
 
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