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2020-10-24 1:40:40 PM  
Coronavirus might change human DNA - My Side Piece, genetic engineer
 
2020-10-24 1:55:16 PM  
Carbon-14? They're just worried that in the future, the cockroach civilization will be able to very accurately date our remains.
 
2020-10-24 2:33:12 PM  
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2020-10-24 2:47:29 PM  
Of all the people who should know better...
 
2020-10-24 4:18:07 PM  
I don't know if it was always just a larky adventure for the rich and bored, but Greenpeace isn't anything anymore.
 
2020-10-24 4:23:04 PM  
Takanori said "even if the water is continuously drunk by 2 liters every day, the annual exposure is about 0.001 to 0.11 millisieverts, which is not a level that affects health."

So, less than 1% of average yearly dosage levels at worst estimate. Thanks Greenpeace, don't you have some other ancient treasures to vandalize lately, or did screwing up Nazca lines whet your wanking desires for a while?
 
2020-10-24 4:28:25 PM  
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2020-10-24 4:31:18 PM  
Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year! They oughta have 'em, too. Ra-di-a-tion. Yes, indeed. You hear the most outrageous lies about it.

/s
 
2020-10-24 4:35:17 PM  
Deadly for twelve thousand years...
 
2020-10-24 4:37:31 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Of all the people who should know better...


Greenpeace?
 
2020-10-24 4:37:57 PM  

Urmuf Hamer: Coronavirus might change human DNA - My Side Piece, genetic engineer


Coffee is known to change your DNA. It's unlikely to cause any harmful effects or make any changes that can be transmitted to the next generation. The danger from radiation is mainly that you might get an overdose of it. The radiation you or a Japanese person will get from the release of this radioactive water is likely to be less than the radiation you get from an X-ray.
 
2020-10-24 4:41:37 PM  
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2020-10-24 4:43:25 PM  
Shaun Burnie, author of the report and senior nuclear specialist with Greenpeace Germany, told CNN there could be as much as 63.6GBq (gigabecquerels) of carbon-14 in total in the tanks.

That's scary! To the googletubes...

Carbon-14 has a specific activity of 62.5mCi per mmole (2.31GBq per mmole) and

So that's 0.38 grams of carbon 14, maximum. Based on Tepco's alleged readings, it's between 1/20 and 1/2000 that much... And it's a fair guess that the max and min figures are cherry picked from the highest and lowest activity tubs.

You'd find about that much C14 scattered among about half a million tons of natural earth-surface carbon, including that in the atmosphere.

Also, 1 million tons of water sounds like a lot, just like you may think it's a long way to the corner chemist's, but it's just peanuts compared to the pacific ocean. The top 500 meters of efficiently-mixed water in the Pacific represent approximately 90 billion million tons.

I mean, realistically, *what is the alternative* to releasing it? Hold it forever? Repeated vacuum distillation until the remaining nasties can be concentrated enough? Not that vacuum distilling 1MT of water isn't practical (apparently a large industrial facility could do so in about 1-2 months) but then you've contaminated the distilling facility instead of the water, which is an improvement of debatable merit.
 
2020-10-24 4:44:03 PM  
...environmental rights organization Greenpeace has warned.

Stopped reading there.
 
2020-10-24 4:46:16 PM  
This isn't how gorilla gets started. Its why he gets mad.
 
2020-10-24 4:52:04 PM  
2021's Most Eligible Bachelors:


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2020-10-24 4:52:32 PM  

Urmuf Hamer: Coronavirus might change human DNA - My Side Piece, genetic engineer


We are all her now because our ancestors DNA was somehow superior. My grandparents survived the 1918 pandemic somehow. And my Great-great=great something or other survived the Black Death. And so it goes.
 
2020-10-24 4:58:53 PM  
Can we choose the alterations?  Cuz I've always wanted prehensile nipples.

I never seem to have enough hands when soldering.
 
2020-10-24 5:04:18 PM  
Just dilute it before releasing
 
2020-10-24 5:07:31 PM  

bughunter: Can we choose the alterations?  Cuz I've always wanted prehensile nipples.

I never seem to have enough hands when soldering.


As a new parent, I would totally get behind this idea.
 
2020-10-24 5:15:12 PM  

will.i.ain't: Urmuf Hamer: Coronavirus might change human DNA - My Side Piece, genetic engineer

We are all her now because our ancestors DNA was somehow superior. My grandparents survived the 1918 pandemic somehow. And my Great-great=great something or other survived the Black Death. And so it goes.


Plus your ancestors did tons of raping.
 
2020-10-24 5:16:54 PM  

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Vitamin-R, for radiation.
 
2020-10-24 5:17:39 PM  
Pretty sure Godzilla starts, "With a purposeful grimace and a terrible sound... He pulls the spitting high-tension wires down..."

Except on some live versions when you get the whole "encased in a block of ice..." bit.
 
2020-10-24 5:19:09 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year! They oughta have 'em, too. Ra-di-a-tion. Yes, indeed. You hear the most outrageous lies about it.

/s


Pernicious nonsense!
 
2020-10-24 5:26:09 PM  
Didn't Greenpeace also suggest recycling green bins were harmless?


First they get all up in your face with that breath from being a nasty vegan recycle bin....

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Then they offer a subversive brainwashing toy as a bribe:
(Note: Plastic toy in oversized, difficult to separate packaging)

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Since there was only one toy, the inevitable arrest:

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2020-10-24 5:28:01 PM  

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Is that zillapoo? No wonder they're so rare.
 
2020-10-24 5:29:04 PM  

rosekolodny: fragMasterFlash: Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year! They oughta have 'em, too. Ra-di-a-tion. Yes, indeed. You hear the most outrageous lies about it.

/s

Pernicious nonsense!


If all of your daily eater needs were met by just drinking this water, you would still have easily within the margin of error for average annual radiation exposure, less than a 1% change. You might, if you drank nothing but the highest concentrations, equal an extra x-ray, maybe two, annually.

Greenpeace is about as credible as Trump. So is anyone who buys into their scare tactics.
 
2020-10-24 5:29:57 PM  

Boojum2k: rosekolodny: fragMasterFlash: Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year! They oughta have 'em, too. Ra-di-a-tion. Yes, indeed. You hear the most outrageous lies about it.

/s

Pernicious nonsense!

If all of your daily eater needs were met by just drinking this water, you would still have easily within the margin of error for average annual radiation exposure, less than a 1% change. You might, if you drank nothing but the highest concentrations, equal an extra x-ray, maybe two, annually.

Greenpeace is about as credible as Trump. So is anyone who buys into their scare tactics.


Goddamn it, *water not eater
 
2020-10-24 5:30:03 PM  

WastrelWay: Urmuf Hamer: Coronavirus might change human DNA - My Side Piece, genetic engineer

Coffee is known to change your DNA. It's unlikely to cause any harmful effects or make any changes that can be transmitted to the next generation. The danger from radiation is mainly that you might get an overdose of it. The radiation you or a Japanese person will get from the release of this radioactive water is likely to be less than the radiation you get from an X-ray.


If that x-ray were thousands of miles in berth and was going to be left on for a few hundred years.
 
2020-10-24 5:31:13 PM  
Kamata-kun is best Gojira. This is a fact.

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2020-10-24 5:38:22 PM  
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2020-10-24 5:41:54 PM  

Boojum2k: rosekolodny: fragMasterFlash: Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year! They oughta have 'em, too. Ra-di-a-tion. Yes, indeed. You hear the most outrageous lies about it.

/s

Pernicious nonsense!

If all of your daily eater needs were met by just drinking this water, you would still have easily within the margin of error for average annual radiation exposure, less than a 1% change. You might, if you drank nothing but the highest concentrations, equal an extra x-ray, maybe two, annually.

Greenpeace is about as credible as Trump. So is anyone who buys into their scare tactics.


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2020-10-24 5:42:03 PM  
Sometimes I wonder if organizations like PETA and Greenpeace exist solely for the purpose of discrediting the animal rights and environmental movements.  All they ever seem to do is say stupid sensationalist shiat.

Carbon-14 is naturally occurring and is continuously produced in the atmosphere and absorbed into the ocean.  That doesn't mean it's safe, or that releasing more of it is risk free, but assuming that it's well mixed and released over time the amounts we're talking about are negligible.  Better to have a controlled release over time than to dump it all at once, which is what will inevitably happen if they just stockpile the water until the next big earthquake.
 
2020-10-24 5:44:26 PM  
The foretold heroes in the form of a samurai barber and his samurai daughter have not arrived yet

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2020-10-24 5:45:57 PM  
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2020-10-24 5:49:06 PM  
"Shaun Burnie, author of the report and senior nuclear specialist with Greenpeace Germany, told CNN there could be as much as 63.6GBq (gigabecquerels) of carbon-14 in total in the tanks."

The Pacific Ocean contains about 10 million PBq (petabecquerels) of radioactive material. 1 PBq = 1 million GBq.

"Ryounosuke Takanori, a spokesperson for TEPCO told CNN in a statement that the concentration of carbon-14 contained in the treated water is about 2 to 220 becquerels per liter, as measured in the water tanks."

Pacific seawater contains 14 becquerels per liter, almost all of which is due to naturally occurring potassium-40, which has been present in the oceans since they were created.
 
2020-10-24 5:51:30 PM  
Greenpeace, and the stupid farkwits that support them, just need to fark off and die already.
 
2020-10-24 5:51:56 PM  

maxandgrinch: The foretold heroes in the form of a samurai barber and his samurai daughter have not arrived yet

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Are they supposed to look like Simpsons characters? And what's with the cheeseburger?
 
2020-10-24 5:53:11 PM  
Honestly, I'm looking forward to the even weirder Japanese porn that comes from this.

/ I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Live eels pooped out of Mariko. I watched fireflies glitter in the closed gate near the back door. All those... moments will be lost in time, like tears... in rain. Time to bate."
 
2020-10-24 5:53:18 PM  

evilsofa: maxandgrinch: The foretold heroes in the form of a samurai barber and his samurai daughter have not arrived yet

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Are they supposed to look like Simpsons characters? And what's with the cheeseburger?


https://bobs-burgers.fandom.com/wiki/H​awk_%26_Chick
 
2020-10-24 5:53:59 PM  
That link is broke as f*ck.  Just google Hawk and Chick.
 
2020-10-24 5:54:42 PM  

erik-k: Shaun Burnie, author of the report and senior nuclear specialist with Greenpeace Germany, told CNN there could be as much as 63.6GBq (gigabecquerels) of carbon-14 in total in the tanks.

That's scary! To the googletubes...

Carbon-14 has a specific activity of 62.5mCi per mmole (2.31GBq per mmole) and

So that's 0.38 grams of carbon 14, maximum. Based on Tepco's alleged readings, it's between 1/20 and 1/2000 that much... And it's a fair guess that the max and min figures are cherry picked from the highest and lowest activity tubs.

You'd find about that much C14 scattered among about half a million tons of natural earth-surface carbon, including that in the atmosphere.

Also, 1 million tons of water sounds like a lot, just like you may think it's a long way to the corner chemist's, but it's just peanuts compared to the pacific ocean. The top 500 meters of efficiently-mixed water in the Pacific represent approximately 90 billion million tons.

I mean, realistically, *what is the alternative* to releasing it? Hold it forever? Repeated vacuum distillation until the remaining nasties can be concentrated enough? Not that vacuum distilling 1MT of water isn't practical (apparently a large industrial facility could do so in about 1-2 months) but then you've contaminated the distilling facility instead of the water, which is an improvement of debatable merit.


Although carbon-14 isn't among them, coal fly ash released by coal plants contains vastly greater amounts of radioactive elements (100 times more) than what is generated by nuclear power plants generating the same amount of power. Specifically uranium and thorium.
 
2020-10-24 5:54:42 PM  

evilsofa: "Shaun Burnie, author of the report and senior nuclear specialist with Greenpeace Germany, told CNN there could be as much as 63.6GBq (gigabecquerels) of carbon-14 in total in the tanks."

The Pacific Ocean contains about 10 million PBq (petabecquerels) of radioactive material. 1 PBq = 1 million GBq.

"Ryounosuke Takanori, a spokesperson for TEPCO told CNN in a statement that the concentration of carbon-14 contained in the treated water is about 2 to 220 becquerels per liter, as measured in the water tanks."

Pacific seawater contains 14 becquerels per liter, almost all of which is due to naturally occurring potassium-40, which has been present in the oceans since they were created.


You first. Drink it down.
 
2020-10-24 5:58:49 PM  
I for one enjoy the extra fizz radiation provides
 
2020-10-24 6:00:39 PM  
Dammit 2020, just stop it!
 
2020-10-24 6:01:54 PM  
Okay, but the option is to keep it concentrated on land. Is that going to be better for human DNA?
 
2020-10-24 6:02:32 PM  

comrade: evilsofa: "Shaun Burnie, author of the report and senior nuclear specialist with Greenpeace Germany, told CNN there could be as much as 63.6GBq (gigabecquerels) of carbon-14 in total in the tanks."

The Pacific Ocean contains about 10 million PBq (petabecquerels) of radioactive material. 1 PBq = 1 million GBq.

"Ryounosuke Takanori, a spokesperson for TEPCO told CNN in a statement that the concentration of carbon-14 contained in the treated water is about 2 to 220 becquerels per liter, as measured in the water tanks."

Pacific seawater contains 14 becquerels per liter, almost all of which is due to naturally occurring potassium-40, which has been present in the oceans since they were created.

You first. Drink it down.


Dude, nobody drinks seawater anyway.
 
2020-10-24 6:11:35 PM  
I feel like this is the kind of problem there should have been a solution to before the reactor was ever constructed.
 
2020-10-24 6:17:05 PM  

Weatherkiss: I feel like this is the kind of problem there should have been a solution to before the reactor was ever constructed.


Yes; but it wasn't, so here we are.
 
2020-10-24 6:18:28 PM  
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