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2020-10-24 1:49:25 PM  
I know some old school trekkies like me tend to hate all things new, but we are living in a real Star Trek golden age right now. Three shows and, counting Sisko, at least three more in development? That's pretty amazing.
 
2020-10-24 1:53:54 PM  
I dunno, they wrapped the show pretty well. I'll watch it, just keep Alex Kurtzman away from it.
 
2020-10-24 2:09:28 PM  
Good luck. Saw him the Shatner captains documentary and Brooks is crazier than a rat in a coffee can.
 
2020-10-24 2:09:44 PM  
I am pretty sure Avery Brooks is done forever with Star Trek. He has been (happily by all accounts) a tenured theater professor at Rutgers for a very long time.
 
2020-10-24 2:09:44 PM  
Remind me, this site is just completely made up rumours and ass-pulling, right?
 
2020-10-24 2:11:17 PM  

Gubbo: Remind me, this site is just completely made up rumours and ass-pulling, right?


Seems like it.. I see their crap on YouTube a lot, and just keep on scrolling.
 
2020-10-24 2:33:56 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: we are living in a real Star Trek golden age right now.


By this logic we are also living in a Star Wars golden age right now.

More != better.
 
2020-10-24 3:01:54 PM  
I don't see that happening at all.
 
2020-10-24 3:20:20 PM  

Ishkur: thatguyoverthere70: we are living in a real Star Trek golden age right now.

By this logic we are also living in a Star Wars golden age right now.

More != better.


Who knows? Fans of Star Wars might actually be enjoying the Mandalorian and might be happy to have quality Star Wars content instead of nothing at all.

There were fans of TOS that didn't like TNG, TNG fans that didn't like DS9, ect. all the way down the line. I'm not a fan of the current shows (haven't seen Lower Decks yet), but it doesn't stop me from acknowledging that the franchise is offering new content like never before. For a fan of a franchise, getting a lot of new content means that the franchise is both popular and successful. Usually that's considered a positive thing, but not for old school trekkies like ourselves who despise anything new and came right out of the gate hating Discovery just because it's on a paid streaming service. Do you remember the days when there were no Star Trek shows on the air and the film franchise was stalled out completely and the whole franchise it looked like it was totally out of gas? For a trekkie back then, the thought of having three successful Star Trek shows on at the same time would have been almost unimaginable.

Like it or not, this Trek is speaking to the current generation like the other series did to their generations. Audiences are enjoying the shows and the producers are making money. But that won't stop old, crabby trekkies like me and you from complaining that since current Star Trek isn't exactly how we picture it in our minds, it's all now complete garbage.
 
2020-10-24 4:10:01 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: Ishkur: thatguyoverthere70: we are living in a real Star Trek golden age right now.

By this logic we are also living in a Star Wars golden age right now.

More != better.

Who knows? Fans of Star Wars might actually be enjoying the Mandalorian and might be happy to have quality Star Wars content instead of nothing at all.

There were fans of TOS that didn't like TNG, TNG fans that didn't like DS9, ect. all the way down the line. I'm not a fan of the current shows (haven't seen Lower Decks yet), but it doesn't stop me from acknowledging that the franchise is offering new content like never before. For a fan of a franchise, getting a lot of new content means that the franchise is both popular and successful. Usually that's considered a positive thing, but not for old school trekkies like ourselves who despise anything new and came right out of the gate hating Discovery just because it's on a paid streaming service. Do you remember the days when there were no Star Trek shows on the air and the film franchise was stalled out completely and the whole franchise it looked like it was totally out of gas? For a trekkie back then, the thought of having three successful Star Trek shows on at the same time would have been almost unimaginable.

Like it or not, this Trek is speaking to the current generation like the other series did to their generations. Audiences are enjoying the shows and the producers are making money. But that won't stop old, crabby trekkies like me and you from complaining that since current Star Trek isn't exactly how we picture it in our minds, it's all now complete garbage.


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2020-10-24 4:10:18 PM  

Jack Sabbath: Good luck. Saw him the Shatner captains documentary and Brooks is crazier than a rat in a coffee can.


Subby here. I wasn't sure how to include in the headline that Avery Brooks for the last 15 years or so hasn't exactly been a model of sanity, so I didn't try.

Actually I'm really surprised that CBS has gotten as far as the negotiating stage with Avery Brooks. Hopefully it means that he's become saner in his older age. We'll see.
 
2020-10-24 5:08:16 PM  

Gubbo: Remind me, this site is just completely made up rumours and ass-pulling, right?


Yep.

Alt-right, comicsgater fake news farms.
 
2020-10-24 5:22:39 PM  
Bullsh*t.
 
2020-10-24 5:30:45 PM  
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'bout time
 
2020-10-24 5:39:59 PM  
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2020-10-24 6:06:59 PM  
Wemakeallthisshiatup.com
 
2020-10-24 6:07:08 PM  
This was BS last week and it still is this week.
 
2020-10-24 6:09:14 PM  

Mugato: I dunno, they wrapped the show pretty well. I'll watch it, just keep Alex Kurtzman away from it.


True, but at the end when Sisko left to go hang out with the Prophets or whatever they mentioned that he would come back eventually.  Seems like a logical entry point to a follow-up series.
 
2020-10-24 6:11:45 PM  

swahnhennessy: This was BS last week and it still is this week.


This is not a repeat comment from the Politics Tab.
 
2020-10-24 6:12:41 PM  

Neondistraction: Mugato: I dunno, they wrapped the show pretty well. I'll watch it, just keep Alex Kurtzman away from it.

True, but at the end when Sisko left to go hang out with the Prophets or whatever they mentioned that he would come back eventually.  Seems like a logical entry point to a follow-up series.


Actually, there was an interview I remember reading many years ago where Avery Brooks didn't exactly like the way it ended (in that his character was a black man leaving the rest of his family in limbo with no idea if he would actually return).  So I could see him being interested in coming back, if only for a few episodes of say a returning DS9?
 
2020-10-24 6:14:03 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: I know some old school trekkies like me tend to hate all things new, but we are living in a real Star Trek golden age right now. Three shows and, counting Sisko, at least three more in development? That's pretty amazing.



Quantity is not quality.
 
2020-10-24 6:20:55 PM  
I'm working my way through DS9 for the first time right now and I've been a fan of Avery Brooks for many years (probably since he was Hawk on Spenser for Hire when I was a kid). DS9 seemed to really take off when he stopped playing nerdy Starfleet guy and went back to being is usual badass self--shaved head and goatee. Hell, I was surprised he didn't have a big, chrome phaser. He is a super chill hardass in whatever role he takes.

That said, can also be a terrifically hammy over-actor. I get that it probably comes from working on the stage most of his life, but man, some of his soliloquies are so stilted and awkward to listen to. Whenever he has more than four sentences or a speech to rally the troops, it sounds so clumsy. That always knocks me out of the moment and breaks the fourth wall without intentionally doing it.

Love Avery Brooks. Enjoy the Sisko character. But I'm not sure he was so amazing that we need more. This feels more like a junior exec at CBS said, "Hey, if they can do "Picard" with old man Picard, let's do "Sisko" with old man Sisko!" and nobody told him it was a bad idea.
 
2020-10-24 6:22:11 PM  

AurizenDarkstar: Neondistraction: Mugato: I dunno, they wrapped the show pretty well. I'll watch it, just keep Alex Kurtzman away from it.

True, but at the end when Sisko left to go hang out with the Prophets or whatever they mentioned that he would come back eventually.  Seems like a logical entry point to a follow-up series.

Actually, there was an interview I remember reading many years ago where Avery Brooks didn't exactly like the way it ended (in that his character was a black man leaving the rest of his family in limbo with no idea if he would actually return).  So I could see him being interested in coming back, if only for a few episodes of say a returning DS9?


I like the rough draft they did in "What We Left Behind."

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/W​hat_We_Left_Behind
 
2020-10-24 6:35:02 PM  
Not if it's going to be set in the same bizarro Picard timeline.
Just as, just leave it alone, or, better yet, set him up on Lower Decks as a recurring character.
 
2020-10-24 6:40:08 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: Ishkur: thatguyoverthere70: we are living in a real Star Trek golden age right now.

By this logic we are also living in a Star Wars golden age right now.

More != better.

Who knows? Fans of Star Wars might actually be enjoying the Mandalorian and might be happy to have quality Star Wars content instead of nothing at all.

There were fans of TOS that didn't like TNG, TNG fans that didn't like DS9, ect. all the way down the line. I'm not a fan of the current shows (haven't seen Lower Decks yet), but it doesn't stop me from acknowledging that the franchise is offering new content like never before. For a fan of a franchise, getting a lot of new content means that the franchise is both popular and successful. Usually that's considered a positive thing, but not for old school trekkies like ourselves who despise anything new and came right out of the gate hating Discovery just because it's on a paid streaming service. Do you remember the days when there were no Star Trek shows on the air and the film franchise was stalled out completely and the whole franchise it looked like it was totally out of gas? For a trekkie back then, the thought of having three successful Star Trek shows on at the same time would have been almost unimaginable.

Like it or not, this Trek is speaking to the current generation like the other series did to their generations. Audiences are enjoying the shows and the producers are making money. But that won't stop old, crabby trekkies like me and you from complaining that since current Star Trek isn't exactly how we picture it in our minds, it's all now complete garbage.


That's a lot of words to say you like any garbage as long as they slap a Star Trek logo on it. I bet JJ and his merry band of scumbags just loooooves you.
 
2020-10-24 6:46:50 PM  
thatguyoverthere70:

My problem's mostly that they're bad, not that they're different. I can imagine versions of Picard and Disco that would be good without being more like earlier trek. Mostly they'd just have to not have awful writing.

/ I finally tried Lower Decks and it's... OK, actually.
// trailer coulda fooled me, it was terrible.
/// it's not funny, which I think it's trying to be, and it's not great, but it is a better show than the other two.
 
2020-10-24 7:10:54 PM  

Gubbo: Remind me, this site is just completely made up rumours and ass-pulling, right?


Yes, and fark Fark for continuing to give them traffic.
 
2020-10-24 7:13:36 PM  

AurizenDarkstar: Neondistraction: Mugato: I dunno, they wrapped the show pretty well. I'll watch it, just keep Alex Kurtzman away from it.

True, but at the end when Sisko left to go hang out with the Prophets or whatever they mentioned that he would come back eventually.  Seems like a logical entry point to a follow-up series.

Actually, there was an interview I remember reading many years ago where Avery Brooks didn't exactly like the way it ended (in that his character was a black man leaving the rest of his family in limbo with no idea if he would actually return).  So I could see him being interested in coming back, if only for a few episodes of say a returning DS9?


but execs are focused on "execs believe they can convince him to return by making sure the spinoff focuses on themes of racial injustice and equality." They could make it about a father learning to be part of his son's life again in a very changed world (a prison allegory).
 
2020-10-24 7:16:16 PM  
The whole thing reads like pre-broadband messagebaord trolling. Something's just a little... OFF.

However, if true, I will watch the hell out of it.
 
2020-10-24 7:17:14 PM  

Billy Liar: [i.ytimg.com image 480x360]

'bout time


You haven't lived until you've heard Sisko and Vic Fontaine duet on The Thong Song.
 
2020-10-24 7:19:31 PM  
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2020-10-24 7:21:06 PM  

fallingcow: My problem's mostly that they're bad, not that they're different.


So far in each show, none of them have had a consistent idea of what the show is about or tone. Then Disco and Picard recycled them same rise of the machine plot, though with different twists. I have no clue what they were thinking in Lower Decks.

Disco S2 was way more watchable and it looks like S2 of Lower Decks may go the same way, by rewriting the personalities of their main characters.

It looks like the new shows were made by casual watchers of Trek. Versus The Mandalorian was made by fans, who made something new in the SW world.
 
2020-10-24 7:22:01 PM  
I don't trust CBS with anymore Trek stuff. Picard was so god damn disappointing. I haven't watched Discovery, so I have no opinion on it.
 
2020-10-24 7:22:22 PM  

magneticmushroom: The whole thing reads like pre-broadband messagebaord trolling. Something's just a little... OFF.

However, if true, I will watch the hell out of it.


I haven't clicked the link since I won't give that bullshiat site any traffic, but dollars to donuts every single link on TFA's page goes right back to their own site.  They NEVER cite any reputable sources.
 
2020-10-24 7:23:34 PM  

ReaverZ: fallingcow: My problem's mostly that they're bad, not that they're different.

So far in each show, none of them have had a consistent idea of what the show is about or tone. Then Disco and Picard recycled them same rise of the machine plot, though with different twists. I have no clue what they were thinking in Lower Decks.

Disco S2 was way more watchable and it looks like S2 of Lower Decks may go the same way, by rewriting the personalities of their main characters.

It looks like the new shows were made by casual watchers of Trek. Versus The Mandalorian was made by fans, who made something new in the SW world.


I'm shocked NuTrek doesn't have a Baby Spawk yet, since Star Wars got so much play off of an alien baby with big pointy ears.
 
2020-10-24 7:24:34 PM  
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"...they can convince him to return by making sure the spinoff focuses on themes of racial injustice and equality..."
 
2020-10-24 7:27:28 PM  

demonfaerie: I don't trust CBS with anymore Trek stuff. Picard was so god damn disappointing. I haven't watched Discovery, so I have no opinion on it.


Give like the first three episodes of season 2 a try. If you don't like what they are doing you can skip. Or try S3, so far it has started well.

/ Disco and Picard have good actors, they need to go back to making the shows more ensembles and give more time to the other actors.
 
2020-10-24 7:34:02 PM  

demonfaerie: I don't trust CBS with anymore Trek stuff. Picard was so god damn disappointing. I haven't watched Discovery, so I have no opinion on it.


The bright spots in the two seasons probably aren't worth watching the whole thing. The best part overall is Pike in S2, which is weird because bringing him in and then some of the things they do with him all seem like terrible ideas, but somehow end up being good. They suffer from weak central plots (S1's is way too thin for that many episodes, and 2's is just crap, though it starts a bit promising) much like Picard, and like Picard have some real "am I supposed to care whether these characters succeed?" issues.

People variously like some of the side characters but it doesn't carry the show.

/ I want Picard S2 to just be adventures in the lawless border territories of a fading Federation.
// the setting is good; almost everything else is bad.
 
2020-10-24 7:36:34 PM  

ReaverZ: demonfaerie: I don't trust CBS with anymore Trek stuff. Picard was so god damn disappointing. I haven't watched Discovery, so I have no opinion on it.

Give like the first three episodes of season 2 a try. If you don't like what they are doing you can skip. Or try S3, so far it has started well.

/ Disco and Picard have good actors, they need to go back to making the shows more ensembles and give more time to the other actors.


They also need to get rid of that greyish/blueish filter or lighting that's saturating everything on those goddamn shows. It's like watching in BSG DepressoScope. The look is not Star Trek.
You know what looks like real Trek? Lower Decks. A f*cking cartoon.
 
2020-10-24 7:37:31 PM  
fallingcow:

The best part overall is Pike in S2


Amen
 
2020-10-24 7:37:32 PM  
fallingcow:

I can imagine versions of Picard and Disco that would be good without being more like earlier trek.


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2020-10-24 7:39:37 PM  

magneticmushroom: The whole thing reads like pre-broadband messagebaord trolling. Something's just a little... OFF.


Because it's a bullshiat site that either just makes stuff up for clicks - they literally just make things up to get clickable headlines - or their "sources" are fringe Youtubers with 17 views per video, i.e. nobodies with as much credibility as the average Farker.

It's a garbage fake news site widely known to be a garbage fake news site, and I can only guess that the only reason they still keep showing up on Fark is that their headlines generate a lot of comment traffic or someone on staff has a connection there.

They should have been blacklisted ages ago.
 
2020-10-24 8:14:05 PM  

browneye: Subby here. I wasn't sure how to include in the headline that Avery Brooks for the last 15 years or so hasn't exactly been a model of sanity, so I didn't try.


Only four years until he leads the San Francisco riots.  I'd expect him to be a little bit on edge.
 
2020-10-24 8:16:41 PM  

Jack Sabbath: Good luck. Saw him the Shatner captains documentary and Brooks is crazier than a rat in a coffee can.


Yeah, he's a bit crazy now, or at least extremely artsy.

Could work.  He has spent who knows how long in non-linear time with the prophets.  That shiat could easily fark you up from the neck up.
 
2020-10-24 8:24:16 PM  

LrdPhoenix: Yeah, he's a bit crazy

now, or at least extremely artsy.

I think he has always been, the calm cool guy is a character he plays.

/ also as you get older and have enough money from your chosen career you can relax and enjoy life more.
// look at stewart
 
2020-10-24 8:29:24 PM  
Wasn't this whole story originally that they were talking about Sisco having some role in season 2 of Picard?
 
2020-10-24 8:33:20 PM  
I like Discovery. I like Picard. Below Decks was terrible, until the last two episodes. They really brought it home, especially the last episode.
 
2020-10-24 8:41:46 PM  

foo monkey: I like Discovery. I like Picard. Below Decks was terrible, until the last two episodes. They really brought it home, especially the last episode.


Lower Decks started firing on all cylinders in episode 6
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and they followed thorough to the end of the season.
Solid comedy.
 
2020-10-24 8:47:35 PM  
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2020-10-24 8:49:41 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: Who knows? Fans of Star Wars might actually be enjoying the Mandalorian and might be happy to have quality Star Wars content instead of nothing at all.


At least Star Wars has one good show.
 
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