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2020-10-24 7:18:08 AM  
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2020-10-24 9:14:24 AM  
If only there was some sort of international organization that England could belong to that would ensure that they also get to use the fast passport lane at European airports.....
 
2020-10-24 9:17:16 AM  
THIS IS WHAT YOU VOTED FOR YA farkWITS!
 
2020-10-24 9:17:43 AM  

iheartscotch: If only there was some sort of international organization that England could belong to that would ensure that they also get to use the fast passport lane at European airports.....


England? I can see the wailing about what the UK is now.
 
2020-10-24 9:19:04 AM  
Why would they have expected otherwise?
 
2020-10-24 9:21:01 AM  
Who cares what some tiny island that wants to keep to itself thinks.
 
2020-10-24 9:23:10 AM  
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2020-10-24 9:24:36 AM  
The UK and the USA will be third world countries within 30 years.
 
2020-10-24 9:25:35 AM  
A forth rate power eh, they could join the Dominion.
/that worked for the Cardasians.
// At least for a little while.
///  pew pew
 
2020-10-24 9:25:43 AM  

BumpInTheNight: Who cares what some tiny island that wants to keep to itself thinks.


What did the Newfies ever do to you?

All kidding aside the Germans already have given to us the term 'schadenfreude' & the French 'Quelle-Farking-surprise'. If we're given any additional concessions we should just count ourselves lucky.
 
2020-10-24 9:25:43 AM  
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

/Wow, The Express is practically unreadable on an iPad.
 
2020-10-24 9:25:52 AM  

wademh: iheartscotch: If only there was some sort of international organization that England could belong to that would ensure that they also get to use the fast passport lane at European airports.....

England? I can see the wailing about what the UK is now.


Appalachia in the Atlantic.
 
2020-10-24 9:26:15 AM  

texanjeff: Why would they have expected otherwise?



Look at the MONEY we would save!!! W00T!!!

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The big red bus of LIES!!!
(and the UK equivalent of older rednecks and bumpkins voted for it)
 
2020-10-24 9:26:57 AM  

Cheesehead_Dave: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

/Wow, The Express is practically unreadable on an iPad.


FTFY.
 
2020-10-24 9:28:06 AM  
Just after Brexit : "Hahaha you suckers will be begging on your hands and knees to give us a deal !"

Right now : "Whaaaa why are you so unfair to us by using your dominant position ?"
 
2020-10-24 9:29:10 AM  

iheartscotch: If only there was some sort of international organization that England could belong to that would ensure that they also get to use the fast passport lane at European airports.....


Like, a union? Of European countries? That sounds great! You should get to work on that.
 
2020-10-24 9:29:29 AM  
And way down in the article:

British ministers have previously said they will continue to let EU citizens keep access to fast lanes when arriving in the country after Brexit.

So the UK is happy to let EU citizens carry on using the fast lanes, but the EU isn't willing to reciprocate. So by Fark logic the UK would be perfectly entitled to take that privilege away from EU citizens and make them queue for hours, right?
 
2020-10-24 9:31:28 AM  
I've got the US version of the Fast Pass. It is super convenient. And it only cost $80.

/ actually....it's terrible! You should definitely not get one. Definitely. You wouldn't like it at all.
 
2020-10-24 9:31:36 AM  
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2020-10-24 9:32:22 AM  
Does anyone have Freddy from scooby do removing the mask? "Now to reveal the source of all my problems." It's him "damn"
 
2020-10-24 9:34:41 AM  

iheartscotch: I've got the US version of the Fast Pass. It is super convenient. And it only cost $80.

/ actually....it's terrible! You should definitely not get one. Definitely. You wouldn't like it at all.


I've got three passports, including a UK and EU one.

In practise these "fast lanes" aren't always all they're cracked up to be. I flew to Canada with family last year and my brother and I who have Canadian passports took the same amount of time to get through checks as the rest of the family who didn't. It made no difference.
 
2020-10-24 9:35:27 AM  
The UK is holding all the cards, and they're the ones in contro--wait a minute, these are just graham crackers!
 
2020-10-24 9:39:09 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: And way down in the article:

British ministers have previously said they will continue to let EU citizens keep access to fast lanes when arriving in the country after Brexit.

So the UK is happy to let EU citizens carry on using the fast lanes, but the EU isn't willing to reciprocate. So by Fark logic the UK would be perfectly entitled to take that privilege away from EU citizens and make them queue for hours, right?


Yes.

Everybody understands that.
 
2020-10-24 9:39:27 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: So the UK is happy to let EU citizens carry on using the fast lanes, but the EU isn't willing to reciprocate. So by Fark logic the UK would be perfectly entitled to take that privilege away from EU citizens and make them queue for hours, right?


Either side can fast track or slow walk border controls. Whatever the British position they will be attempting to make political hay out of it. Eg; look how better we're managing EU people at our borders, be a sport & concede something here, there or wherever.

If 'one hand washes the other' diplomacy doesn't work expect tit-for-tat diplomacy, petty small minded diplomacy, blowing things out all proportion diplomacy & generally international silly bu$$ers. Or as the Foreign & Commonwealth office might say; Tuesday.
 
2020-10-24 9:43:01 AM  
It's cute watching Carter reduced to admitting that reality is actually reality but whatabout this other thing that means Brexit was still the right decision.  Like watching a particularly stupid baby try to smush a square peg into a round hole kind of cute.  You're just like awww...stupid baby, hopefully you stay cute cause otherwise you're in trouble.
 
2020-10-24 9:45:12 AM  
Suck on it, guv'nah
 
2020-10-24 9:45:22 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: And way down in the article:

British ministers have previously said they will continue to let EU citizens keep access to fast lanes when arriving in the country after Brexit.

So the UK is happy to let EU citizens carry on using the fast lanes, but the EU isn't willing to reciprocate. So by Fark logic the UK would be perfectly entitled to take that privilege away from EU citizens and make them queue for hours, right?


haha, the UK is now a tax shelter for the very rich, who will keep their EU citizenship access. So no the poors will just have to watch the elite w/ their privileged access.

/ Or did someone miss the part where the architects of the Brexit made sure they have property and citizenship in the EU, before the EU exit strategy kicked in completely.
// Hats off to this masterstroke of villainy.
/// No snark to you Carter, certainly you planned ahead and moored your mega yacht next to your estate in the EU before hand as well. You seem like a smart chap who knows which way the wind is blowing, and I must say I've always liked the cut of your jib.

//// OK enough mangling of metaphors, and playing the part of a "schadenfreuder". Time to go back and see if damage control is possible on the home front.
 
2020-10-24 9:46:54 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: iheartscotch: I've got the US version of the Fast Pass. It is super convenient. And it only cost $80.

/ actually....it's terrible! You should definitely not get one. Definitely. You wouldn't like it at all.

I've got three passports, including a UK and EU one.

In practise these "fast lanes" aren't always all they're cracked up to be. I flew to Canada with family last year and my brother and I who have Canadian passports took the same amount of time to get through checks as the rest of the family who didn't. It made no difference.


Wild guess, landed at Duval?  I think that airports' staff make a sport out of who can create the longest line of disgruntled passengers.
 
2020-10-24 9:47:15 AM  

padraig: Carter Pewterschmidt: And way down in the article:

British ministers have previously said they will continue to let EU citizens keep access to fast lanes when arriving in the country after Brexit.

So the UK is happy to let EU citizens carry on using the fast lanes, but the EU isn't willing to reciprocate. So by Fark logic the UK would be perfectly entitled to take that privilege away from EU citizens and make them queue for hours, right?

Yes.

Everybody understands that.


Okay, so the UK should scrap the plans to let EU citizens carry on using these fast lanes. Sorted.

Too bad for all those EU citizens. They had a nice thing going, until the EU tried to play politics and put pressure on the UK because the EU isn't getting what it wants.
 
2020-10-24 9:51:02 AM  

BumpInTheNight: Carter Pewterschmidt: iheartscotch: I've got the US version of the Fast Pass. It is super convenient. And it only cost $80.

/ actually....it's terrible! You should definitely not get one. Definitely. You wouldn't like it at all.

I've got three passports, including a UK and EU one.

In practise these "fast lanes" aren't always all they're cracked up to be. I flew to Canada with family last year and my brother and I who have Canadian passports took the same amount of time to get through checks as the rest of the family who didn't. It made no difference.

Wild guess, landed at Duval?  I think that airports' staff make a sport out of who can create the longest line of disgruntled passengers.


Pearson in Toronto.

Xzano: haha, the UK is now a tax shelter for the very rich, who will keep their EU citizenship access. So no the poors will just have to watch the elite w/ their privileged access.


You know all these new EU tax avoidance and money laundering laws? You do know most of them were already UK laws, which the EU copied, right?

But then you claimed all the ferries the UK could have used were "contracted for the next 70 years" so your grip on reality is dubious at best....
 
2020-10-24 9:51:07 AM  
Carter Pewterschmidt:

So the UK is happy to let EU citizens carry on using the fast lanes, but the EU isn't willing to reciprocate. So by Fark logic the UK would be perfectly entitled to take that privilege away from EU citizens and make them queue for hours, right?

The e-gates can only work through mutual access to law-enforcement databases. In other words, something you may need a deal on. Such mutual access would also require material equivalence of data protection standards. Something the unelected bureaucrat Dominic Cummings has expressed his aversion to.
 
2020-10-24 9:52:05 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: padraig: Carter Pewterschmidt: And way down in the article:

British ministers have previously said they will continue to let EU citizens keep access to fast lanes when arriving in the country after Brexit.

So the UK is happy to let EU citizens carry on using the fast lanes, but the EU isn't willing to reciprocate. So by Fark logic the UK would be perfectly entitled to take that privilege away from EU citizens and make them queue for hours, right?

Yes.

Everybody understands that.

Okay, so the UK should scrap the plans to let EU citizens carry on using these fast lanes. Sorted.

Too bad for all those EU citizens. They had a nice thing going, until the EU tried to play politics and put pressure on the UK because the EU isn't getting what it wants.


Dude. You are the rarest of creatures, an actual Microsoft fanboy. You've admitted to using the Edge browser. Nothing you say can ever be taken seriously again.
 
2020-10-24 9:53:57 AM  

texanjeff: Why would they have expected otherwise?


Because Brexiteers are some of the most stupid, gullible and uninformed motherf*ckers in the world, only being kept from the top spot by the Republicans as the two groups seemingly try to outdo each other in a contest to be the biggest bunch of f*ckwits in the world.
 
2020-10-24 9:54:35 AM  

LowbrowDeluxe: It's cute watching Carter reduced to admitting that reality is actually reality but whatabout this other thing that means Brexit was still the right decision.  Like watching a particularly stupid baby try to smush a square peg into a round hole kind of cute.  You're just like awww...stupid baby, hopefully you stay cute cause otherwise you're in trouble.


It's amusing that Farkers keep insisting the UK has no leverage, is a tiny country, the EU doesn't need us etc but look at the facts. Boris said there was no point in any more negotiations and was walking away, preparing for a no-deal exit. The EU are the ones begging to carry on talking, and are now saying they will make concessions.

/Frankly I think walking away with no deal is the better option at the moment, unless the EU drop their insane demands. Demands remember that they have never asked of any other country in any other free trade deal.
 
2020-10-24 9:56:11 AM  

texanjeff: Why would they have expected otherwise?


Because they're special
 
2020-10-24 9:56:43 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: iheartscotch: I've got the US version of the Fast Pass. It is super convenient. And it only cost $80.

/ actually....it's terrible! You should definitely not get one. Definitely. You wouldn't like it at all.

I've got three passports, including a UK and EU one.

In practise these "fast lanes" aren't always all they're cracked up to be. I flew to Canada with family last year and my brother and I who have Canadian passports took the same amount of time to get through checks as the rest of the family who didn't. It made no difference.


You, obviously, haven't ever had to go through security at Toronto....

The US fast pass is pretty useful when you're coming back to the US. Bypass all of the line; straight through the metal detectors and on to the plane. It's even better on in-the-US flights. We get our own special line. And no 4th Amendment violating scan.
 
2020-10-24 9:58:24 AM  
"Britons will be forced to join long queues of arrivals from the rest of the world, including the US and China."

1. This is exactly what the Remain crowd said would happen, and was dismissed by Brexiters as ludicrous fearmongering.

2. I seriously doubt they'll be treated quite like China. CSB - once traveled with someone with a Chinese passport. The immigration folks in Spain went through every single page of their passport and painstakingly examined their visa to get into the EU. On the way out through the moment they saw a Chinese passport they didn't even want to look at it - literally - saw the cover and furiously waved them through.

"British negotiators had asked Brussels to let European countries carry on giving British holidaymakers the same preferential treatment as now."

You dumb shiats know the preferential treatment they get now is because while in the EU the Brits are allowed to freely move to these countries, negating the need for any serious immigration control, right? Right? Give back that right and they're gonna need to go through immigration like everyone else.
 
2020-10-24 9:58:43 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: padraig: Carter Pewterschmidt: And way down in the article:

British ministers have previously said they will continue to let EU citizens keep access to fast lanes when arriving in the country after Brexit.

So the UK is happy to let EU citizens carry on using the fast lanes, but the EU isn't willing to reciprocate. So by Fark logic the UK would be perfectly entitled to take that privilege away from EU citizens and make them queue for hours, right?

Yes.

Everybody understands that.

Okay, so the UK should scrap the plans to let EU citizens carry on using these fast lanes. Sorted.

Too bad for all those EU citizens. They had a nice thing going, until the EU tried to play politics and put pressure on the UK because the EU isn't getting what it wants.


Well, since 1/10th the number of people from the EU will now visit the UK, it should be no big deal.
 
2020-10-24 9:58:44 AM  

The wonderful travels of a turd: Carter Pewterschmidt:

So the UK is happy to let EU citizens carry on using the fast lanes, but the EU isn't willing to reciprocate. So by Fark logic the UK would be perfectly entitled to take that privilege away from EU citizens and make them queue for hours, right?

The e-gates can only work through mutual access to law-enforcement databases. In other words, something you may need a deal on. Such mutual access would also require material equivalence of data protection standards. Something the unelected bureaucrat Dominic Cummings has expressed his aversion to.


And yet the UK offered to carry on giving EU citizens that fast track access.

And frankly you are wrong. The UK could choose unilaterally to let EU citizens use the fast track without any database access at all. That is a power sovereign countries have. The UK could decide to wave through anyone wearing brown shoes, or all people over six foot.
It is perfectly possible the UK could let EU citizens keep fast track access unilaterally.
 
2020-10-24 9:58:48 AM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: texanjeff: 
The big red bus of LIES!!!
(and the UK equivalent of older rednecks and bumpkins voted for it)

Chavs?

 
2020-10-24 9:58:48 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Demands remember that they have never asked of any other country in any other free trade deal.


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2020-10-24 9:59:29 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: LowbrowDeluxe: It's cute watching Carter reduced to admitting that reality is actually reality but whatabout this other thing that means Brexit was still the right decision.  Like watching a particularly stupid baby try to smush a square peg into a round hole kind of cute.  You're just like awww...stupid baby, hopefully you stay cute cause otherwise you're in trouble.

It's amusing that Farkers keep insisting the UK has no leverage, is a tiny country, the EU doesn't need us etc but look at the facts. Boris said there was no point in any more negotiations and was walking away, preparing for a no-deal exit. The EU are the ones begging to carry on talking, and are now saying they will make concessions.

/Frankly I think walking away with no deal is the better option at the moment, unless the EU drop their insane demands. Demands remember that they have never asked of any other country in any other free trade deal.


Boris said there was n ..


Awesome
 
2020-10-24 10:00:29 AM  
Britons will be forced to join long queues of arrivals from the rest of the world, including the US and China.

It's bad enough I have to be in a queue with Chinese arrivals. I draw the line at Brits.
 
2020-10-24 10:02:25 AM  

Farking Clown Shoes: Carter Pewterschmidt: Demands remember that they have never asked of any other country in any other free trade deal.

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Can you name any case of any country or block asking for what the EU is asking for from any other country in a free trade deal?

Because you are asking me to prove a negative. The onus is on you to provide an example of that happening.

Name one case where a country has been asked to surrender law making powers and supreme court jurisdiction in a free trade deal. Name one.

I'll wait...
 
2020-10-24 10:05:07 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: And way down in the article:

British ministers have previously said they will continue to let EU citizens keep access to fast lanes when arriving in the country after Brexit.

So the UK is happy to let EU citizens carry on using the fast lanes, but the EU isn't willing to reciprocate. So by Fark logic the UK would be perfectly entitled to take that privilege away from EU citizens and make them queue for hours, right?


Actually... yes. I have no problem with that, even as someone that also holds an EU passport.
 
2020-10-24 10:06:14 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Can you name any case of any country or block asking for what the EU is asking for from any other country in a free trade deal?


Yup: Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Norway, and Iceland.

That was easy.
 
2020-10-24 10:06:21 AM  

Target Builder: You dumb shiats know the preferential treatment they get now is because while in the EU the Brits are allowed to freely move to these countries, negating the need for any serious immigration control, right? Right? Give back that right and they're gonna need to go through immigration like everyone else.


They're still having their passports checked. They still have immigration control. And even if they spent an hour checking their passport with a magnifying glass once in Spain a Brit can happily driver through France to Germany freely without any checks at all. So what's the difference?
 
2020-10-24 10:08:02 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: LowbrowDeluxe: It's cute watching Carter reduced to admitting that reality is actually reality but whatabout this other thing that means Brexit was still the right decision.  Like watching a particularly stupid baby try to smush a square peg into a round hole kind of cute.  You're just like awww...stupid baby, hopefully you stay cute cause otherwise you're in trouble.

It's amusing that Farkers keep insisting the UK has no leverage, is a tiny country, the EU doesn't need us etc but look at the facts. Boris said there was no point in any more negotiations and was walking away, preparing for a no-deal exit. The EU are the ones begging to carry on talking, and are now saying they will make concessions.

/Frankly I think walking away with no deal is the better option at the moment, unless the EU drop their insane demands. Demands remember that they have never asked of any other country in any other free trade deal.


Boris didn't end the negotiations, he was told to f*ck off. We're content to leave fast access for EU citizens because we need their business. The EU isn't reciprocating because there's no benefit to them to do so.

We have nothing to negotiate with. Nothing. Everyone, except you, knows it.
 
2020-10-24 10:08:45 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: And way down in the article:

British ministers have previously said they will continue to let EU citizens keep access to fast lanes when arriving in the country after Brexit.

So the UK is happy to let EU citizens carry on using the fast lanes, but the EU isn't willing to reciprocate. So by Fark logic the UK would be perfectly entitled to take that privilege away from EU citizens and make them queue for hours, right?


Sure, go ahead and make sure that fewer European citizens want to bother visiting and spending their Euros there. That's your prerogative.
 
2020-10-24 10:08:49 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: /Frankly I think walking away with no deal is the better option at the moment, unless the EU drop their insane demands. Demands remember that they have never asked of any other country in any other free trade deal.


We've reached the "I didn't want those grapes anyway; they're probably sour!" phase of the argument.
 
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