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2020-10-22 9:57:02 PM  
90 votes:

Lambskincoat: Why do Republicans not understand what the word "context" means?


Give them a break, they need to get past understanding  consent first.
 
2020-10-22 9:12:02 PM  
85 votes:
Why do Republicans not understand what the word "context" means?
 
2020-10-23 5:54:28 AM  
75 votes:
I suspect anyone even obliquely related to the Biden campaign needs to watch out for utterly ham-fisted and guileless (and unfunny) attacks from the Project Veritas asshats in the next few days.

Again, the issue here is "If the personal attorney of the POTUS can fall for this, what the hell have actual trained FSB agents gotten over on him?"
 
2020-10-23 4:38:29 AM  
65 votes:
I guess I'd feel bad if Julie hadn't spent the last few weeks trying to pin a fake news story on someone else, but I doubt that the lesson is exactly going to resonate in that empty skull.
 
2020-10-23 7:28:04 AM  
50 votes:
The context everyone seems to be missing is Rudy willingly and without much proving is ready willing and able to be bribed by foreign governments
 
2020-10-23 4:54:39 AM  
49 votes:
Watched the whole thing tonight. It was pretty funny.

Obviously he went in there with bad intentions, but he really didn't do anything. She intentionally led him on. In no way does that girl look 15. Without even looking it up, I would say mid 20s.

Sasha is a master of the con though. Hilarious too. Best documentary about Melania ever.
 
2020-10-23 12:29:50 AM  
49 votes:
God almighty Fox and The Hill are off the deep end trying to prop Trump up. This is getting hilarious.
 
2020-10-23 7:40:38 AM  
45 votes:
Despite nothing really happening and the scene possibly edited out of context, Rudy should know better than to be winding up in the bedroom portion of a hotel room with a young lady, and laying down on the bed in addition. You try explaining to your wife or girlfriend that being in a hotel suite bedroom with an unfamiliar woman is innocent.

And considering how Giuliani is slinging mud at other people, I don't have an issue with this blowing up in his face.
 
2020-10-23 2:32:53 AM  
43 votes:

Lambskincoat: Why do Republicans not understand what the word "context" means?


They're used to setting the narrative and everyone else in the universe accepting without reservation.
 
2020-10-23 8:00:15 AM  
32 votes:

Dr Dreidel: Rudy Giuliani thinks there are attractive 24 year old women who want to have sex with him with no ulterior motives.

(That's the joke.)


That's the problem that's being overlooked here.  It's not the underage thing (there's zero indication that she was up until Cohen comes in and announces it), or even the gropey/pervy thing (problem, granted, but not the big one).  It's that he eagerly went for such a flagrant, obvious honeypot.  This is a major official in the current administration, particularly with Donnie's "generous" interpretation of security clearances, and it never even occurs to him that this could potentially be any sort of scam.  Thank fark this was a jumped-up hidden camera prank show, rather than an actual attempt at gaining kompromat.  How many times has he fallen for this that we haven't seen on camera yet?
 
2020-10-23 7:21:23 AM  
31 votes:
I'm wondering what context involves a man with his hand down his pants, alone with a 15 year old is the "correct" context?
 
2020-10-23 7:42:50 AM  
29 votes:
If he got duped this easy by a comedian, Russia has a whole box set of videos of Rudy's sordid deeds.
 
2020-10-23 8:11:58 AM  
28 votes:
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The context... is that GOPers fall for this shiat almost all the time.  The pics of all the GOP/NRA people with Butina are so much more damning than this.
 
2020-10-23 7:51:32 AM  
28 votes:
Rudy Giuliani thinks there are attractive 24 year old women who want to have sex with him with no ulterior motives.

(That's the joke.)
 
2020-10-23 7:31:52 AM  
26 votes:

GregoryD: Watched the whole thing tonight. It was pretty funny.

Obviously he went in there with bad intentions, but he really didn't do anything. She intentionally led him on. In no way does that girl look 15. Without even looking it up, I would say mid 20s.

Sasha is a master of the con though. Hilarious too. Best documentary about Melania ever.


COMPLETELY AGREED. Watched it today, you can't really say Rudy is a pedo because everything about the scene showed her as an adult, but he is a creepy gropey bastard as evidenced by him grabbing her lower back when he knew he was on camera. There is a big difference between pedo and gropey which is important to remember, Rudy is the latter not the former.

Enjoyed the film, obviously not as good as the original but the sequel made clear they couldn't repeat the original because Borat is so recognisable now. The (24 year old) actor playing Borat's (15 year old) daughter was brilliant, I hope she goes on to a big career after this.
 
2020-10-22 9:31:41 PM  
25 votes:

Lambskincoat: Why do Republicans not understand what the word "context" means?


The ones that do are trying to grift the ones that don't, so you're probably better off looking for that on a prison bathroom wall.
 
2020-10-23 7:39:37 AM  
23 votes:
Watched it for myself.

The *exact* scene everyone's talking about?  Yeah, he was actually tucking in his shirt (probably).

The entire context?  Yeah, he was 100% getting ready to do some creepy business with that girl.  His rubbing of her back is even worse, IMO.
 
2020-10-23 7:34:34 AM  
23 votes:
I can imagine a kind-hearted nationally-recognized pol giving a brief interview with an assertive and surprisingly informed HS journalist to encourage her to keep at it. Show her hard work will indeed take her places. But I can't imagine Giuliani doing it simply out of the goodness of his heart...

And I have a lot of trouble believing that a nationally-recognized pol would be in a hotel room with a HS age girl without several aides and perhaps friendly media there to CYA unless he had something else on his mind that he didn't want such people to know about.
 
2020-10-23 4:15:31 AM  
20 votes:
Gosh, it's just awful when people slander other people, isn't it?
 
2020-10-23 7:28:30 AM  
19 votes:

Rapmaster2000: These people get into these situations because they love to be on camera

15 year-olds
 
2020-10-23 7:21:28 AM  
19 votes:

syrynxx: I watched it all too.  It looked like she pulled his shirt out of his pants for some reason and he was definitely tucking it back in, because he used both hands pushing down.  You only need one hand to say hello to your best friend.


Your cock must be really really small.
 
2020-10-23 7:51:41 AM  
16 votes:
FTFA: "I'm tucking my shirt in, I assure you that's all I was doing," Giuliani told WABC radio on Wednesday.

Well, if we have your assurance, that's good enough for me!

I've lived a long time, not as long as Giuliani, but long enough to have grandchildren. I can confidently say that I have never once tucked my shirt in while laying down in bed. It defeats the whole purpose of the act --- the shirt isn't going to be neatly tucked in by the time I stand up. So either Giuliani is a complete moron, or he's a big fat liar.

Verdict: Giuliani is a moron and a liar.
 
2020-10-23 7:45:31 AM  
15 votes:
He wasn't tucking his shirt in. He was pre-gaming his crank.

You don't go into a stranger's hotel bedroom and lie down on the bed without thinking something or someone is about to go down.

And in the scene, all that plays out right after he tells her to give him her number.
 
2020-10-23 7:59:07 AM  
14 votes:
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"This guy comes running in, wearing a crazy, what I would say was a pink transgender outfit," Giuliani said.
 
2020-10-23 7:14:25 AM  
14 votes:
Is it shown in context in the film?  Too bad we have to wait months to--oh, there it is on Prime.

Context.
 
2020-10-23 7:21:54 AM  
13 votes:
These people get into these situations because they love to be on camera.
 
2020-10-23 7:43:33 AM  
12 votes:
So, according to conservatives masturbating in front of underage girls is acceptable?

What the fark were they all in a shiat about over louis c.k.? Were they mad because he stole their schtick?

Also, aren't they all in a tizzy cause Biden is allegedly too "friendly" with kids? Post election, the fbi should pick rudy up on distribution of child porn since he is the only confirmed human who has accessed these laptops, and he's apparently been showing them to republican senators...
 
2020-10-23 7:23:58 AM  
12 votes:

thorpe: God almighty Fox and The Hill the entirety of American corporate media are off the deep end trying to prop Trump up. This is getting hilarious.



/you're not wrong, just wanted to expand the picture
//though I disagree that it's hilarious
 
2020-10-23 8:32:17 AM  
11 votes:

Lambskincoat: Why do Republicans not understand what the word "context" means?


They're Originalists, you see.
 
2020-10-23 7:31:55 AM  
11 votes:
Rudy is so gullible, he'd fall for an old school Nigerian e-mail scammer. Most likely he's helping to "transfer" the $ of several African princes to the US right farking now.
 
2020-10-23 8:29:49 AM  
10 votes:
You know what matters people?  How farking easy it was to put somebody in Trump's close orbit in a seemingly compromising position.

If Giuliani was so easily led by his Rudy, imagine how easy it would be to do this to the others that Trump surrounds himself.
 
2020-10-23 8:00:55 AM  
10 votes:

ParallelUniverseParking: You think that's messed up? Two words: Monica Lewinsky


Interesting point. There are a lot of differences between Rudy's lapse in judgement and Bill Clinton's lapse in judement. Both occurred with women of consenting age however, so that's not part of their lapse in judgement.

Bill Clinton's poor judgement was to presume that a young woman who was politically supportive wouldn't say something about their dalliance, that was always going to happen and there was always a solid chance he'd be caught out whether it be weeks or months or years after the event.

Rudy's poor judgement was right in front of him: cameras. He's on camera and actually signed a waiver to permit the footage to be screened as I understand the story. That's massively more naive than Bill Clinton. Whether you regard that as a positive or negative (there are arguments to be made either way) is up to you I guess.
 
2020-10-23 7:41:12 AM  
10 votes:

ParallelUniverseParking: So Rudy Giuliani was masturbating out of context? Kinky.


See the film, there's no suggestion he was grabbing his junk but there's plenty of suggestion he thought he might be on with the young woman (not girl) in the scene as per his completely unnecessary lower back touching when he knew he was on camera. It's not as bad as the suggestions about the scene hinting he's a pedo but it's nevertheless gropey and misogynistic, that should be the actual story here.

And in part it's kinda what frustrates me (and I'm guessing much of the non-US world) about how Americans deal with Trump. The impeachment fizzled because it was done too soon with not enough evidence and Trump is off the hook with a lot of American voters accordingly. Likewise the story should be "Rudy has abysmal judgement because he was completely sucked in by Sacha Baron Cohen" but instead the highlight is Ruby appearing to grab his dick and the story is "Rudy didn't actually grab his dick in front of a woman he barely knows" because that's actually true, and it changes nothing.
 
2020-10-23 8:56:30 AM  
9 votes:

SJKebab: First of all, Rudy can fark off and die.

That said, I just watched the movie too. The funniest thing I've seen in a long time. I'm still recovering, it broke me...  Now this scene, yeah I think he was tucking his shirt in.  And the pedo angle doesn't work either as while we the viewer know her as a 15 year old girl, the scene certainly doesn't set her up as such, nor does she look like one. The only mention of her age is when Borat comes in to save the day with a hilarious quote that I don't want to spoil, but probably already has been by others.

All that said, he DEFINITELY thought he was in with a chance, and she led him on the whole way.
As stated above, the real story is that he is so easily succumbed to a honey pot, and therefore is a massive security risk.  I think Sacha made an error in saving the day a few seconds tóo early, but that is very easily justified given the circumstances.


So much THIS there wouldn't be any left in the universe if I gave it all it deserved.  He's a confidant of the president who has travelled extensively in countries where Russian intelligence operates with impunity.  If he hasn't already been honeypotted I'll eat my shoe.
 
2020-10-23 7:36:15 AM  
9 votes:
let's all take a moment to feel sorry for Rudy.

and now that that's over... i hope that shiatbag gets thrown in jail, or at least sued for whatever his ex-wives have left him.
 
2020-10-23 10:18:53 AM  
8 votes:

Aussie_As: Farkonaut: OptimisticCynicism: Props on actually viewing stuff with an open mind instead of continuing the circle jerking this community had a blast with in the original thread.

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Ha ha I wish. But if your takeaway from Fark is that folks are open minded then good on you, you've obviously had excellent experiences. That said, my top tip to you is NEVER open a gun thread.


Oh my GOD, some of you need to stop with this shiat OK... so farking stupid.

If fark tends towards liberal it's not because of some specific actions that FARK has taken to make it that way. It's because all those woke conservative voices with their alternate facts decided not to hang out here. Mostly because actual intelligent people that use facts, reality, and reason hang out here, and don't just lick the asshole of every post to karma-farm.  Yeah, What an echo chamber FARK is. 

Can you people really not understand the farking difference between actively cultivating a community into your echo chamber and a collection of like minded people that congregate in similar places of their own free will?

Stop with this shiat, FARK isn't r/donald you stupid assholes quit acting like it is.
 
2020-10-23 9:00:37 AM  
8 votes:
I haven't seen the movie (I hated Borat and the only reason to watch this one is to see them lampoon this administration) but from everything I've gathered from those who have it makes it perfectly clear...

The short video that shows Giulliani with his hands down his pants was put in the wrong context... He wasn't masturbating in the presence of who he thought was a 15 year old girl...

There, see?

That video was of him tucking in his shirt...

After he brought her to a private hotel room.

After groping her several times.

After he massaged her neck.

After he bragged to her about his wealth and power.

After he heard her story about how she struggles and how vulnerable she is.

I mean... context is important isn't it?
 
2020-10-23 8:15:29 AM  
8 votes:
Let's say he really was tucking his shirt in at that moment.  Why was he patting her ass before heading into the bedroom?
 
2020-10-23 8:12:12 AM  
8 votes:
First of all, Rudy can fark off and die.

That said, I just watched the movie too. The funniest thing I've seen in a long time. I'm still recovering, it broke me...  Now this scene, yeah I think he was tucking his shirt in.  And the pedo angle doesn't work either as while we the viewer know her as a 15 year old girl, the scene certainly doesn't set her up as such, nor does she look like one. The only mention of her age is when Borat comes in to save the day with a hilarious quote that I don't want to spoil, but probably already has been by others.

All that said, he DEFINITELY thought he was in with a chance, and she led him on the whole way.
As stated above, the real story is that he is so easily succumbed to a honey pot, and therefore is a massive security risk.  I think Sacha made an error in saving the day a few seconds tóo early, but that is very easily justified given the circumstances.
 
2020-10-23 8:06:07 AM  
8 votes:
How about how easy it was for her to get that much access to the president's lawyer?
 
2020-10-23 7:56:41 AM  
8 votes:
And Cohen will be hitting the talk shows starting Monday. As himself, not the character. I wouldn't egg him on when you don't know how much footage was actually shot.
 
2020-10-23 7:34:33 AM  
8 votes:
At least Gateway Pundit had the balls to say "yes, Rudy was trying to get some strange and you would too."

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2020-10-23 7:47:13 AM  
7 votes:
Here's the thing about Rudy.

You DON'T go to these lengths of cross-dressing unless you REALLY enjoy it on some subconscious level.

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And that's something he was absolutely fine with putting out in the public sphere.  Let's call it his baseline.

I don't even want to think of what deeds of his are hidden beneath the tip of this iceberg.
 
2020-10-23 11:13:26 AM  
6 votes:
Someone better call the burn unit.


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2020-10-23 10:25:26 AM  
6 votes:
If this was video taken by law enforcement doing a sting, there would be no doubt what was going on and its admissibility would only by questioned by rich guys with lots of lawyers.
 
2020-10-23 9:07:49 AM  
6 votes:

Pernicious Q. Varmint: SJKebab: First of all, Rudy can fark off and die.

That said, I just watched the movie too. The funniest thing I've seen in a long time. I'm still recovering, it broke me...  Now this scene, yeah I think he was tucking his shirt in.  And the pedo angle doesn't work either as while we the viewer know her as a 15 year old girl, the scene certainly doesn't set her up as such, nor does she look like one. The only mention of her age is when Borat comes in to save the day with a hilarious quote that I don't want to spoil, but probably already has been by others.

All that said, he DEFINITELY thought he was in with a chance, and she led him on the whole way.
As stated above, the real story is that he is so easily succumbed to a honey pot, and therefore is a massive security risk.  I think Sacha made an error in saving the day a few seconds tóo early, but that is very easily justified given the circumstances.

So much THIS there wouldn't be any left in the universe if I gave it all it deserved.  He's a confidant of the president who has travelled extensively in countries where Russian intelligence operates with impunity.  If he hasn't already been honeypotted I'll eat my shoe.


or hes been bribed in EXACTLY this way so many times he thinks its normal
 
2020-10-23 8:51:03 AM  
6 votes:

wage0048: Okay, Faux News: In what context is it okay for a 76-year-old male to masturbate in a room with what he believes to be a 15-year-old girl?


The letter next to your name
 
2020-10-23 8:20:41 AM  
6 votes:
I know it's getting to be a cliche, but can you imagine if a Democrat were caught in this position?  That fat ball of dough Hannity would be all over himself with outrage, as would every -R in office anywhere.
 
2020-10-23 8:14:46 AM  
6 votes:
If that were you in the scene instead of Rudy, would your wife divorce you?

Nuff said, i think.
 
2020-10-23 8:12:54 AM  
6 votes:

NoahFenze: Literally Addicted: I'm wondering what context involves a man with his hand down his pants, alone with a 15 year old is the "correct" context?

I haven't seen it yet. But I'm not sure he's aware she's supposed to be 15.


Saw it today, really enjoyed it but not as good as the original film imho. She's in the room with a camera crew conducting an interview as a professional journalist. The actor playing Borat's "15 year old" daughter is actually 24 and looks it. The only suggestion she is underage is made by Borat well after Rudy has put his arm around her lower back and lay back on the bed tucking in his shirt.

There's no reason Rudy would have believed her to be underage. His gropey behaviour and sexist treatment of a female journalist are misogynism, not paedophilia, as near as I can interpret it. It's still awful and it indicates Rudy would be an easy mark for any foreign agencies who wanted to compromise him on dodgy sex grounds so that should be the story here, not Rudy is a pedo.
 
2020-10-23 7:43:36 AM  
6 votes:
I haven't seen it yet, but while I do feel this is overblown ... who lays down to "tuck in"?  Honestly?
 
2020-10-23 9:13:44 AM  
5 votes:

stoli n coke: If he got duped this easy by a comedian, Russia has a whole box set of videos of Rudy's sordid deeds.


There's some emotionally scarred Red Sparrow graduate sitting in Moscow seeing this and thinking to himself- "That's all it took? Borat fooled him?"
 
2020-10-23 8:14:43 AM  
5 votes:

saywhonow: So, according to conservatives masturbating in front of underage girls is acceptable?

What the fark were they all in a shiat about over louis c.k.? Were they mad because he stole their schtick?

Also, aren't they all in a tizzy cause Biden is allegedly too "friendly" with kids? Post election, the fbi should pick rudy up on distribution of child porn since he is the only confirmed human who has accessed these laptops, and he's apparently been showing them to republican senators...


Anything is ok if you're an important Republican.  Literally anything.
 
2020-10-23 7:44:56 AM  
5 votes:

Lambskincoat: Why do Republicans not understand what the word "context" means?


in the context of Republican: good, in the context of Democrats: bad

See, simple.
 
2020-10-23 7:42:37 AM  
5 votes:

Lambskincoat: Why do Republicans not understand what the word "context" means?


It's the go-to word when they try to defend all the awful shiat in the bible.
 
2020-10-23 7:41:28 AM  
5 votes:
White is hella sus.  I saw them masturbating on cams -- not tucking.

I voted.  Enjoy the airlock Rudy.
 
2020-10-23 12:20:40 PM  
4 votes:

Aussie_As: ParallelUniverseParking: So Rudy Giuliani was masturbating out of context? Kinky.

See the film, there's no suggestion he was grabbing his junk but there's plenty of suggestion he thought he might be on with the young woman (not girl) in the scene as per his completely unnecessary lower back touching when he knew he was on camera. It's not as bad as the suggestions about the scene hinting he's a pedo but it's nevertheless gropey and misogynistic, that should be the actual story here.

And in part it's kinda what frustrates me (and I'm guessing much of the non-US world) about how Americans deal with Trump. The impeachment fizzled because it was done too soon with not enough evidence and Trump is off the hook with a lot of American voters accordingly. Likewise the story should be "Rudy has abysmal judgement because he was completely sucked in by Sacha Baron Cohen" but instead the highlight is Ruby appearing to grab his dick and the story is "Rudy didn't actually grab his dick in front of a woman he barely knows" because that's actually true, and it changes nothing.


This is either incredible stupid or incredibly wrong. Take your pick. We had him offering a quid pro quo in front of multiple eye witnesses and then they tried to cover it up which was again part of the whistleblowing action.

They had him dead to rights in a normal impeachment hearing but the process is political so of course the GOP wasn't going to convict him in the senate. If he were a normal citizen he'd have been nailed to the wall by a DOJ for soliciting illegal campaign assistance. I hope, but do not expect, that he gets nailed for it after he leaves office.
 
2020-10-23 10:24:20 AM  
4 votes:

OptimisticCynicism: Farkonaut: OptimisticCynicism: Props on actually viewing stuff with an open mind instead of continuing the circle jerking this community had a blast with in the original thread.

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I mean outside of the blatant trolls, Fark has a surprisingly high level of political sophistication and a lot of reasonably good anslysis.

Unfortunately, it runs into the same problem all groups do in terms of creating an overzealous echo chamber on some stuff.

I'd rather there at least be a few people flagging when we are taking stuff a bit too far.


..you know what the mods will tell you.

"Use ignore"

There are plenty of alternative voices on here, plenty of people on the Right, plenty of people that seem to like the splintery warmth that sitting on fences provides so they can sit here and claim from atop their pedestals of fairness and equality a suspicion of all things.

Again, if people on the right don't hang out here as much as lefties, that again is THEIR choice..

FARK does nothing to actively cultivate a liberal site.
As I said above, this isn't r\conservative, or r\donald.

If there are no conservatives here it's because they left to join their OWN echo chambers because this one wouldn't be one exclusively FOR them. 

Leaving because shiat isn't echo chamber enough for you doesn't mean we're an echo chamber for something else.
 
2020-10-23 9:57:31 AM  
4 votes:
Watched Borat 2 last night after the debates ended.

How the hell does he think he can weasel his way from this and say it's taken out of context?

I'm a guy, I know what it looks like when I'm rubbing myself down there and Rudy was no difference.

Ps Rudy your mic had been off for a few mins
 
2020-10-23 9:23:35 AM  
4 votes:
Sounds like the real problem with the video is Cohen came in too eary. They should have seen just how far Rudi would have gone.
 
2020-10-23 7:59:31 AM  
4 votes:

stoli n coke: He wasn't tucking his shirt in. He was pre-gaming his crank.

You don't go into a stranger's hotel bedroom and lie down on the bed without thinking something or someone is about to go down.

And in the scene, all that plays out right after he tells her to give him her number.


Smarted just for the phrase "pre-gaming his crank."
 
2020-10-23 7:45:07 AM  
4 votes:

Grungehamster: At least Gateway Pundit had the balls to say "yes, Rudy was trying to get some strange and you would too."

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He's got a rather low opinion of men.
 
2020-10-23 7:29:02 AM  
4 votes:

ParallelUniverseParking: So Rudy Giuliani was masturbating out of context? Kinky.


This time without his 2nd cousin.
 
2020-10-23 12:50:08 PM  
3 votes:
If this was Russian intelligence instead of SBC, the scenario would play like this:

1. Set Rudy up to be "interviewed" by a young, pretty journalist, who could plausibly be perceived to be of legal consent age.

2. Through flirting and sharing of alcohol, the girl lures Rudy back to her bedroom, that happens to be loaded with hidden cameras.

3. Rudy proceeds to get down with the get down and actually has sex with the girl; but instead of SBC busting in and yelling "She's 15, too old for you!", it's a couple of scary looking goons.

4. Said goons calmly explain to Rudy that the girl he just banged is 15 years old and, lo and behold, here's her I.D. that proves it, and now they have time-stamped video proof.

Republicans want context? Well there's your context.
 
2020-10-23 12:01:26 PM  
3 votes:

Smoking GNU: Lambskincoat: Why do Republicans not understand what the word "context" means?

Same reason they never seem to understand what "consent" means.


"You can do anything, the left will promote and understand and tolerate anything, as long as there is one element. Do you know what it is? Consent. If there is consent on both or all three or all four, however many are involved in the sex act, it's perfectly fine, whatever it is. But if the left ever senses and smells that there's no consent in part of the equation then here come the rape police. But consent is the magic key to the left."

-Rush Limbaugh

The rape police. Also known as the police because you just committed rape.
 
2020-10-23 11:29:10 AM  
3 votes:

Aussie_As: But in the absence of any evidence connecting Joe Biden with Hunter Biden's work life, there's no story there. Uncover evidence of meetings or influence or shut the fark up.


That hard drive has passed through so many hands, any chain of evidence has been destroyed.

Pretty sure some of those hands were Russian.
 
2020-10-23 9:27:45 AM  
3 votes:

Lambskincoat: Why do Republicans not understand what the word "context" means?


Same reason they never seem to understand what "consent" means.
 
2020-10-23 9:05:53 AM  
3 votes:

schubie: Do you guys not have dicks? He got two strokes in and is extrordinarly lucky that they burst in when they did. And yes, Maria Bakalova totally stole that movie. As did the babysitter character.


I am a straight guy with a dick who agrees that Maria Bakalova stole the movie through acting talent and general attractiveness but I'd never fall for her pretending to be attracted to me because (like Rudy) I'm ageing and nowhere near her ball-park. Fark knows how Rudy thought she was actually interested other than for honeypot reasons. That's the scary thing here.

/agree that the babysitter character was great, also would point out the Republican women tried their best which served to point out the problems with the Republican Party are the men.
 
2020-10-23 8:57:37 AM  
3 votes:
Do you guys not have dicks? He got two strokes in and is extrordinarly lucky that they burst in when they did. And yes, Maria Bakalova totally stole that movie. As did the babysitter character.
 
2020-10-23 8:36:06 AM  
3 votes:

kindms: The context everyone seems to be missing is Rudy willingly and without much proving is ready willing and able to be bribed by foreign governments


THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS!!!!

And it's not just Rudy, it's everyone that Trump surrounds himself with.  The overwhelming majority of them are just a bunch of grifters (especially Trump's kids which explains his projecting in last night's debate) trying to stuff as much money in their pockets as possible while the going is good.
 
2020-10-23 7:59:55 AM  
3 votes:
So the Giuliani underage girl masturbation scene is actually a Giuliani underage girl in a hotel room bedroom scene.

Got it. Totally exonerated.

/s
//gonna watch it today
 
2020-10-23 7:43:02 AM  
3 votes:

ParallelUniverseParking: Rudy is so gullible, he'd fall for an old school Nigerian e-mail scammer. Most likely he's helping to "transfer" the $ of several African princes to the US right farking now.


And the GOP would call us the real racists for not supporting it.
 
2020-10-23 8:06:46 PM  
2 votes:

BunkyBrewman: You know what matters people?  How farking easy it was to put somebody in Trump's close orbit in a seemingly compromising position.

If Giuliani was so easily led by his Rudy, imagine how easy it would be to do this to the others that Trump surrounds himself.


Like maybe a bunch of Republican senators on a Moscow junket on the 4th of July?
 
2020-10-23 12:55:46 PM  
2 votes:

Extra Virgin Geek Olive Oil: TDWCom29: wage0048: Okay, Faux News: In what context is it okay for a 76-year-old male to masturbate in a room with what he believes to be a 15-year-old girl?

Did he believe that? I haven't seen it yet, but is there any part before Borat says "She's 15, too old for you" that indicates Rudy thought she was underage?

Again... I haven't watched the movie, but someone said in one of these threads that she was there on assignment for her highschool journalism class...

Someone who has seen the movie please correct me if I'm wrong.


I just watched it and didn't hear it mentioned. The interview just started with her telling him that he was her hero, she gave him a book and then started asking about china. Her age comes off as a bit ambiguous  but she is drinking and appears to have a crew (at least Sasha as a sound guy). He still comes off as a creep with expectations when in the bedroom scene.
 
2020-10-23 12:38:17 PM  
2 votes:

Aussie_As: redmid17: Aussie_As: ParallelUniverseParking: So Rudy Giuliani was masturbating out of context? Kinky.

See the film, there's no suggestion he was grabbing his junk but there's plenty of suggestion he thought he might be on with the young woman (not girl) in the scene as per his completely unnecessary lower back touching when he knew he was on camera. It's not as bad as the suggestions about the scene hinting he's a pedo but it's nevertheless gropey and misogynistic, that should be the actual story here.

And in part it's kinda what frustrates me (and I'm guessing much of the non-US world) about how Americans deal with Trump. The impeachment fizzled because it was done too soon with not enough evidence and Trump is off the hook with a lot of American voters accordingly. Likewise the story should be "Rudy has abysmal judgement because he was completely sucked in by Sacha Baron Cohen" but instead the highlight is Ruby appearing to grab his dick and the story is "Rudy didn't actually grab his dick in front of a woman he barely knows" because that's actually true, and it changes nothing.

This is either incredible stupid or incredibly wrong. Take your pick. We had him offering a quid pro quo in front of multiple eye witnesses and then they tried to cover it up which was again part of the whistleblowing action.

They had him dead to rights in a normal impeachment hearing but the process is political so of course the GOP wasn't going to convict him in the senate. If he were a normal citizen he'd have been nailed to the wall by a DOJ for soliciting illegal campaign assistance. I hope, but do not expect, that he gets nailed for it after he leaves office.

I don't disagree with a single point but the fact is there's an election on in a couple of weeks and these details are getting no oxygen at all. I stand by my point that the impeachment was wasted by going early. It's having zero impact this week, that's for sure, no matter how great you want to pretend it went.


It didn't go great but you have to balance ideal timing with being able to keep the caucus together. Pelosi wasn't perfect but it was about as good as was going to happen in that respect.

You glossing over this isn't surprising because it undermines your point, but frankly that particular issue amongst the litany of things that should have torpedoed is presidency wouldn't even make the top 3 right now. Your read of the room vis a vis American politics is pretty off
 
2020-10-23 12:34:12 PM  
2 votes:

BunkyBrewman: kindms: The context everyone seems to be missing is Rudy willingly and without much proving is ready willing and able to be bribed by foreign governments

THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS!!!!

And it's not just Rudy, it's everyone that Trump surrounds himself with.  The overwhelming majority of them are just a bunch of grifters (especially Trump's kids which explains his projecting in last night's debate) trying to stuff as much money in their pockets as possible while the going is good.


Reposting from the other thread:

@SethAbramson:  PS11/ That Giuliani's apparent sexual quid pro quo can be suddenly interrupted by a "father" informing him that the foreign national from a former Soviet republic he's engaged in a compromising scene with is "underage" is exactly what makes the situation so dangerous for America.

@SethAbramson:  PS12/ Had the "father" in this scene been a Russian intelligence operative rather than a filmmaker, he would have *maintained* the lie that Bakalova was underage, and used the recording of the scene-which Giuliani didn't know about-as *blackmail* over the president's lawyer. See?
 
2020-10-23 12:21:11 PM  
2 votes:

TDWCom29: GregoryD: ...

At the risk of sounding like I'm remotely defending Rudy, the "She's 15" thing was meant to be a joke for the movie. At no point was he ever led to believe she was anything other than the age she looked. He's still a vampire sex creep, but at least in this case he thought she was easily of age at least. And she was


Exactly. That's the story the crowd obsessing about the pedo stuff are missing. If Sacha Baron Cohen's one shot at this scene managed to get Rudy flirting outrageously then putting his hand around her lower back with a camera crew rolling, then the obvious question is how compromised is this guy by foreign powers using centuries old honeytrap techniques where the witnesses aren't actually right there in the room?

She doesn't need to be 15. A fairly cute 24 year old will do perfectly well. Exhibit A - the Borat footage.
 
2020-10-23 10:27:03 AM  
2 votes:

Last Man on Earth: Dr Dreidel: Rudy Giuliani thinks there are attractive 24 year old women who want to have sex with him with no ulterior motives.

(That's the joke.)

That's the problem that's being overlooked here.  It's not the underage thing (there's zero indication that she was up until Cohen comes in and announces it), or even the gropey/pervy thing (problem, granted, but not the big one).  It's that he eagerly went for such a flagrant, obvious honeypot.  This is a major official in the current administration, particularly with Donnie's "generous" interpretation of security clearances, and it never even occurs to him that this could potentially be any sort of scam.  Thank fark this was a jumped-up hidden camera prank show, rather than an actual attempt at gaining kompromat.  How many times has he fallen for this that we haven't seen on camera yet?


Amen, but let's also not forget that Rudy sells himself as a security expert.  http://www.giulianisecurity.com/ This isn't just some naive administration official falling for an obvious honeypot, it's someone whose very business is to be alert to these dangers.  This time it was just a comedian making a joke.  This time.
 
2020-10-23 9:34:58 AM  
2 votes:

Aussie_As: NoahFenze: Literally Addicted: I'm wondering what context involves a man with his hand down his pants, alone with a 15 year old is the "correct" context?

I haven't seen it yet. But I'm not sure he's aware she's supposed to be 15.

Saw it today, really enjoyed it but not as good as the original film imho. She's in the room with a camera crew conducting an interview as a professional journalist. The actor playing Borat's "15 year old" daughter is actually 24 and looks it. The only suggestion she is underage is made by Borat well after Rudy has put his arm around her lower back and lay back on the bed tucking in his shirt.

There's no reason Rudy would have believed her to be underage. His gropey behaviour and sexist treatment of a female journalist are misogynism, not paedophilia, as near as I can interpret it. It's still awful and it indicates Rudy would be an easy mark for any foreign agencies who wanted to compromise him on dodgy sex grounds so that should be the story here, not Rudy is a pedo.


It is truly embarrassing the level to which this administration has flagrantly flaunted the protocols that are meant to prevent this kind of stuff.

Props on actually viewing stuff with an open mind instead of continuing the circle jerking this community had a blast with in the original thread.
 
2020-10-23 8:57:26 AM  
2 votes:

contrapunctus: Here's the thing about Rudy.

You DON'T go to these lengths of cross-dressing unless you REALLY enjoy it on some subconscious level.

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And that's something he was absolutely fine with putting out in the public sphere.  Let's call it his baseline.

I don't even want to think of what deeds of his are hidden beneath the tip of this iceberg.


The thing is, Julie liking to cross dress on occasion isn't a big deal. That's his bag, and it doesn't hurt anyone, and he has fun with it. That's not shameful.

Shameful is the sheer hypocrisy to hold others to a standard that he is unwilling and unable to hold. He HAS willingly embraced tactics and methods that DO hurt people. I'll never have an issue with Julie wanting to dress up at the drop of a hat, with a moderate track record for LGBT rights, and then trying to shame others for their own places on the sexual spectrums, and his open support of those who virulently oppose LGBT rights, that's an issue.

Julie has a lot of wrong going on, and I'm more than glad to take him to task for it, especially with his increasing instability, but let's not try to shame a guy for wanting to feel pretty on occasion. Because, while his crossdressing can sometimes feel a bit mean spirited in its delivery, he DOES hop into a dress fast. No shame in that. All God's chill'uns gots to dance. Even the remarkably sh*tty and crazy ones.
 
2020-10-23 8:53:19 AM  
2 votes:

jimjays: I can imagine a kind-hearted nationally-recognized pol giving a brief interview with an assertive and surprisingly informed HS journalist to encourage her to keep at it. Show her hard work will indeed take her places. But I can't imagine Giuliani doing it simply out of the goodness of his heart...

And I have a lot of trouble believing that a nationally-recognized pol would be in a hotel room with a HS age girl without several aides and perhaps friendly media there to CYA unless he had something else on his mind that he didn't want such people to know about.



I know.. democrats eat babies they hide in pizza parlors -we're all pedos.  (No proof of this what-so-ever)

Meanwhile, we have Rudy here with a supposedly underage female ALONE in a hotel room and: Nothing to see here folks...

...do we really think winning this election is going make these people no longer exist?
 
2020-10-23 8:26:41 AM  
2 votes:

SJKebab: I think Sacha made an error in saving the day a few seconds tóo early, but that is very easily justified given the circumstances.


It's entirely possible SBC saw what many of the rest of us did - that Rudy was prepping for launch - and didn't want his coworker to be MeToo'd. (Or, taking a dimmer view of SBC, didn't want HIMSELF to be MeToo'd for putting the production at risk over her having been sexually assaulted.)

Anyway, Rudy is single. Judith (used to be) Nathan finalized her divorce from him last year.

// you may remember Nathan as the woman with whom Guiliani cheated on his second wife (which torpedoed his 2000 Senate campaign)
 
2020-10-23 8:07:09 AM  
2 votes:

Literally Addicted: I'm wondering what context involves a man with his hand down his pants, alone with a 15 year old is the "correct" context?


I haven't seen it yet. But I'm not sure he's aware she's supposed to be 15.
 
2020-10-23 8:05:34 AM  
2 votes:
so I guess fox is going to have a segment how Dr. Fauci's comments were taken out of context for the Trump Ad?
 
2020-10-23 8:04:29 AM  
2 votes:

stoli n coke: And Cohen will be hitting the talk shows starting Monday. As himself, not the character. I wouldn't egg him on when you don't know how much footage was actually shot.


Here's a breakdown for ya

https://slate.com/culture/2020/10/bor​a​t-giuliani-sacha-baron-cohen-video-ana​lyzed.html
 
2020-10-23 7:53:30 AM  
2 votes:
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2020-10-23 7:28:40 AM  
2 votes:

Literally Addicted: I'm wondering what context involves a man with his hand down his pants, alone with a 15 year old is the "correct" context?


Trying to dislodge a mouse.
 
2020-10-23 12:14:04 AM  
2 votes:
Subby, you could've gotten a lot more hits just calling it the "girl masturbation scene."  At least everyone would have to click on the link to have their stomach turn
 
2020-10-23 6:12:40 PM  
1 vote:

Fireproof: Alien Robot: Metastatic Capricorn: Let's say he really was tucking his shirt in at that moment.  Why was he patting her ass before heading into the bedroom?

Why does it matter? Isn't one's personal life ones own business? Giuliani is entitled to as much as John Geddes Lawrence is.

Are you seriously asking why does it matter that he was going to have sex with a woman who claimed to be 15?

The only possible out here is that she never claimed this until Cohen burst in, which seems unlikely.


Where did she claim to be 15?
 
2020-10-23 3:04:23 PM  
1 vote:

Aussie_As: TDWCom29: wage0048: Okay, Faux News: In what context is it okay for a 76-year-old male to masturbate in a room with what he believes to be a 15-year-old girl?

Did he believe that? I haven't seen it yet, but is there any part before Borat says "She's 15, too old for you" that indicates Rudy thought she was underage?

Saw the film today and the simple answer is no. She was there to conduct a prearranged interview for a foreign media network, she was in a business suit and had a film crew in tow, her credentials checked out. The actor playing Borat's daughter is 24 and looks it (although there's the occasional 15 year old who could pass for 24 too admittedly).

Rudy was bad but misogynist bad not pedo bad.


This is how real kompromat actually works.
 
2020-10-23 12:52:38 PM  
1 vote:

OptimisticCynicism: Aussie_As: It's amazing to the non-US world that the Dems couldn't find anyone better than Biden to be their candidate. At a time when the US economy has experienced a massive downturn, the Dems should be a shoo-in yet Trump is still within sight of victory. Where I live, nobody is voting for the 78 year old when it comes to significant leadership and that's just pragmatism, not ageism. The non-US world doesn't get what's happening here.

So I think a lot of it comes down to demographic shift, our U.S. equiv of a caste system and the different factions within Democratic party.

The caste system essentially has previously sorted by wealth and whether you are white.

Globalization(off shoring), robotics and similar trends have farked everyone not "wealthy"(which are mostly white but not exclusively).

That means everyone that isn't wealthy is rightfully pissed off.

Where things get a little unique is that the U. S. is undergoing the transformation from a majority white country to a country that doesn't actually have any single demographic majority.

What that means is that a lot of mostly old white people are not only pissed off because they got shafted by the rich, but is suddenly getting put on equal footing with their non-white counterparts because white culture is dominating less.

Which brings me to the odd position of African Americans in the Democratic party.

They don't really have options when it comes to political party. You are either supporting the Democrats or you are supporting the party of Segregation. This means that as a voting block they have a massive influence in the party AND they aren't as liberal as white democrats Overall because their (mostly old) conservatives don't have anywhere else to go.

So to win the presidency you needed someone that doesn't piss off the fading, old, white, midwest majority.

To win the Democratic primary you need to win over conservative southern African Americans OR younger voters from all groups AND show that you ...


What scares the conservatives is; the Vice President (hopefully) will be a liberal woman of color, with a very good chance of becoming President.

That scares the shiat out of them.
 
2020-10-23 12:45:55 PM  
1 vote:

redmid17: It didn't go great but you have to balance ideal timing with being able to keep the caucus together. Pelosi wasn't perfect but it was about as good as was going to happen in that respect.

You glossing over this isn't surprising because it undermines your point, but frankly that particular issue amongst the litany of things that should have torpedoed is presidency wouldn't even make the top 3 right now. Your read of the room vis a vis American politics is pretty off


Fair enough. I expected the system to either work or prove its failure in a way which would be relevent come election time. You're telling me I was asking for way too much. You're probably right.

Which really just proves my point too - the impeachment bizzo was ineffective which is what I said in the first place, and you agree.

So thanks.
 
2020-10-23 12:43:46 PM  
1 vote:

Aussie_As: It's amazing to the non-US world that the Dems couldn't find anyone better than Biden to be their candidate. At a time when the US economy has experienced a massive downturn, the Dems should be a shoo-in yet Trump is still within sight of victory. Where I live, nobody is voting for the 78 year old when it comes to significant leadership and that's just pragmatism, not ageism. The non-US world doesn't get what's happening here.


So I think a lot of it comes down to demographic shift, our U.S. equiv of a caste system and the different factions within Democratic party.

The caste system essentially has previously sorted by wealth and whether you are white.

Globalization(off shoring), robotics and similar trends have farked everyone not "wealthy"(which are mostly white but not exclusively).

That means everyone that isn't wealthy is rightfully pissed off.

Where things get a little unique is that the U. S. is undergoing the transformation from a majority white country to a country that doesn't actually have any single demographic majority.

What that means is that a lot of mostly old white people are not only pissed off because they got shafted by the rich, but is suddenly getting put on equal footing with their non-white counterparts because white culture is dominating less.

Which brings me to the odd position of African Americans in the Democratic party.

They don't really have options when it comes to political party. You are either supporting the Democrats or you are supporting the party of Segregation. This means that as a voting block they have a massive influence in the party AND they aren't as liberal as white democrats Overall because their (mostly old) conservatives don't have anywhere else to go.

So to win the presidency you needed someone that doesn't piss off the fading, old, white, midwest majority.

To win the Democratic primary you need to win over conservative southern African Americans OR younger voters from all groups AND show that you have a chance to win the presidency.

There wasn't anyone that had a good chance of getting both young voters and older, white voters. So unsurprisingly the coalition of older voters like older candidates.

No one else in the Democratic party had as much credibility with older African Americans while also being a candidate that older whites can "feel good about ". So we got Biden.
 
2020-10-23 12:39:38 PM  
1 vote:

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: dsmith42: Smoking GNU: Lambskincoat: Why do Republicans not understand what the word "context" means?

Same reason they never seem to understand what "consent" means.

"You can do anything, the left will promote and understand and tolerate anything, as long as there is one element. Do you know what it is? Consent. If there is consent on both or all three or all four, however many are involved in the sex act, it's perfectly fine, whatever it is. But if the left ever senses and smells that there's no consent in part of the equation then here come the rape police. But consent is the magic key to the left."

-Rush Limbaugh

The rape police. Also known as the police because you just committed rape.

So, is he trying to frame consent as a bad thing?


You need to know the Limbaugh model...

The following rules apply no matter the topic:

1 - It must made to make liberals look bad. Either as hypocritical, stupid, laughable, or to be mocked.
2 - It must imply that conservative views are ranked higher and therefore superior to liberal views, even when something reflects badly on conservatives.
3 - Distort all topics that conservatives are against by using hyperbolic language so that it can be mocked.
4 - Lead listeners to come to most of these conclusions themselves without directly telling them how to think.

Here we have an excellent example of the model at work.

Imply that liberals are accepting of any sex, including that which conservatives see as deviant (rule 1).
Name the topic in which you are about to distort.
Cement the deviancy of sex.
Imply that conservatives because they can use common sense to know when consent is implied and therefore superior by making liberals have a zero tolerance policy on consent, AND that the consent topic leaves zero room for tolerance to begin with. (rule 2)
Using hyperbolic language to describe how liberals would react to hearing that someone might have implied consent but didn't *give* consent. (rule 3)
Let the listeners "come to their own conclusion about consent" by more hyperbolic language that is then left in the air to hang. (Rule 4)
 
2020-10-23 12:29:43 PM  
1 vote:

redmid17: Aussie_As: ParallelUniverseParking: So Rudy Giuliani was masturbating out of context? Kinky.

See the film, there's no suggestion he was grabbing his junk but there's plenty of suggestion he thought he might be on with the young woman (not girl) in the scene as per his completely unnecessary lower back touching when he knew he was on camera. It's not as bad as the suggestions about the scene hinting he's a pedo but it's nevertheless gropey and misogynistic, that should be the actual story here.

And in part it's kinda what frustrates me (and I'm guessing much of the non-US world) about how Americans deal with Trump. The impeachment fizzled because it was done too soon with not enough evidence and Trump is off the hook with a lot of American voters accordingly. Likewise the story should be "Rudy has abysmal judgement because he was completely sucked in by Sacha Baron Cohen" but instead the highlight is Ruby appearing to grab his dick and the story is "Rudy didn't actually grab his dick in front of a woman he barely knows" because that's actually true, and it changes nothing.

This is either incredible stupid or incredibly wrong. Take your pick. We had him offering a quid pro quo in front of multiple eye witnesses and then they tried to cover it up which was again part of the whistleblowing action.

They had him dead to rights in a normal impeachment hearing but the process is political so of course the GOP wasn't going to convict him in the senate. If he were a normal citizen he'd have been nailed to the wall by a DOJ for soliciting illegal campaign assistance. I hope, but do not expect, that he gets nailed for it after he leaves office.


I don't disagree with a single point but the fact is there's an election on in a couple of weeks and these details are getting no oxygen at all. I stand by my point that the impeachment was wasted by going early. It's having zero impact this week, that's for sure, no matter how great you want to pretend it went.
 
2020-10-23 11:24:47 AM  
1 vote:

Jairzinho: Judge by yourself...
https://twitter.com/mollyjongfast/stat​us/1319486885677453312?s=21


Huh. It does look like he's just tucking in his shirt.

But, that does not explain away that he decided to go into a hotel bedroom to drink with what he thought was an under aged girl.
 
2020-10-23 11:24:38 AM  
1 vote:

GrinzGrimly: Yeah, she's 24. The crack team of investigators down at IMDb cracked this one for us.

Plus if we're now going with "but the way he touched her back makes me think the totally unrelated evidence of Joe/Hunter's scheming isn't reliable" maybe you should image search 'Joe Biden Hair Smelling' and see if it affects your belief in his denials.


I agree the Biden optics aren't great on the hair smelling front.That said, Trump's 'pussy grabbing' comment was even worse because it confirmed what he's like beyond wondering.

It's amazing to the non-US world that the Dems couldn't find anyone better than Biden to be their candidate. At a time when the US economy has experienced a massive downturn, the Dems should be a shoo-in yet Trump is still within sight of victory. Where I live, nobody is voting for the 78 year old when it comes to significant leadership and that's just pragmatism, not ageism. The non-US world doesn't get what's happening here.

But in the absence of any evidence connecting Joe Biden with Hunter Biden's work life, there's no story there. Uncover evidence of meetings or influence or shut the fark up.
 
2020-10-23 10:49:03 AM  
1 vote:

ZangTT: Gosh, what's all this about "Giuliani girl masturbation scene" that I am hearing about everywhere; but not fully reading it, so much so that I have a very weak understanding of any facts or context involved.

Tell me more about this "Giuliani girl masturbation scene" and please focus on how it should affect my overall political perspectives.

"Giuliani girl masturbation scene"... /s (was the /s needed?)


Saw the film today. The scene in question was nothing illegal, nothing Clintonesque in terms of stains anywhere but certainly extremely weird in that there was obviously a camera crew in the room.

Would you pat a girl 40 years younger than you on the lower back for no apparent reason while cameras were rolling? It's a weird thing, and it makes one wonder about Rudy's judgement in cases where no camera crews are present. Don't focus on the sensational headline, the actual story is how farked is Rudy's judgement that any of this occurred and the only possible motive seems to be him getting his dick wet. I can't think of a comparable situation in US political history, other than perhaps the Dubya administration admitting there were no WMD's despite their best judgements which coincidently favoured Halliburton's financial agenda and at least in that case there was an obvious financial motive.
 
2020-10-23 10:39:17 AM  
1 vote:
Gosh, what's all this about "Giuliani girl masturbation scene" that I am hearing about everywhere; but not fully reading it, so much so that I have a very weak understanding of any facts or context involved.

Tell me more about this "Giuliani girl masturbation scene" and please focus on how it should affect my overall political perspectives.

"Giuliani girl masturbation scene"... /s (was the /s needed?)
 
2020-10-23 10:33:54 AM  
1 vote:

Aussie_As: Farkonaut: Aussie_As: Farkonaut: OptimisticCynicism: Props on actually viewing stuff with an open mind instead of continuing the circle jerking this community had a blast with in the original thread.

[Welcome to Fark.jpg]

Ha ha I wish. But if your takeaway from Fark is that folks are open minded then good on you, you've obviously had excellent experiences. That said, my top tip to you is NEVER open a gun thread.

Oh my GOD, some of you need to stop with this shiat OK... so farking stupid.

If fark tends towards liberal it's not because of some specific actions that FARK has taken to make it that way. It's because all those woke conservative voices with their alternate facts decided not to hang out here. Mostly because actual intelligent people that use facts, reality, and reason hang out here, and don't just lick the asshole of every post to karma-farm.  Yeah, What an echo chamber FARK is. 

Can you people really not understand the farking difference between actively cultivating a community into your echo chamber and a collection of like minded people that congregate in similar places of their own free will?

Stop with this shiat, FARK isn't r/donald you stupid assholes quit acting like it is.

Wow did not expect this, not sure where it's from, I like to consider myself an evidence-based Farker and I both enjoy support but also cop shiat from Farkers with a range of views and that's what I was indicating. My point was gun threads are generally the ones where actual evidence goes out the window. Sorry if not clear.


I think they may have mistaken your reply for me replying to them.

I play devil's advocate a lot and actually do want to improve the level of discourse here. Though I don't remember ever comparing it to really shiatty communities or saying that the moderation was at fault.

// life is interesting when your "agreeableness" score wouldn't be much higher than 0.
 
2020-10-23 10:25:07 AM  
1 vote:

Farkonaut: Aussie_As: Farkonaut: OptimisticCynicism: Props on actually viewing stuff with an open mind instead of continuing the circle jerking this community had a blast with in the original thread.

[Welcome to Fark.jpg]

Ha ha I wish. But if your takeaway from Fark is that folks are open minded then good on you, you've obviously had excellent experiences. That said, my top tip to you is NEVER open a gun thread.

Oh my GOD, some of you need to stop with this shiat OK... so farking stupid.

If fark tends towards liberal it's not because of some specific actions that FARK has taken to make it that way. It's because all those woke conservative voices with their alternate facts decided not to hang out here. Mostly because actual intelligent people that use facts, reality, and reason hang out here, and don't just lick the asshole of every post to karma-farm.  Yeah, What an echo chamber FARK is. 

Can you people really not understand the farking difference between actively cultivating a community into your echo chamber and a collection of like minded people that congregate in similar places of their own free will?

Stop with this shiat, FARK isn't r/donald you stupid assholes quit acting like it is.


Wow did not expect this, not sure where it's from, I like to consider myself an evidence-based Farker and I both enjoy support but also cop shiat from Farkers with a range of views and that's what I was indicating. My point was gun threads are generally the ones where actual evidence goes out the window. Sorry if not clear.
 
2020-10-23 10:12:16 AM  
1 vote:

Farkonaut: OptimisticCynicism: Props on actually viewing stuff with an open mind instead of continuing the circle jerking this community had a blast with in the original thread.

[Welcome to Fark.jpg]


I mean outside of the blatant trolls, Fark has a surprisingly high level of political sophistication and a lot of reasonably good anslysis.

Unfortunately, it runs into the same problem all groups do in terms of creating an overzealous echo chamber on some stuff.

I'd rather there at least be a few people flagging when we are taking stuff a bit too far.
 
2020-10-23 9:05:04 AM  
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The July report didn't report any inappropriate or sexual behavior.


i know it's rudy, but i doubt even he's stupid enough to report his own 'inappropriate sexual behavior' to the police.  probably
 
2020-10-23 8:47:35 AM  
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Okay, Faux News: In what context is it okay for a 76-year-old male to masturbate in a room with what he believes to be a 15-year-old girl?
 
2020-10-23 8:47:09 AM  
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wasn't rudy originally there to pickup a cash "donation"?
 
2020-10-23 8:10:03 AM  
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stoli n coke: If he got duped this easy by a comedian, Russia has a whole box set of videos of Rudy's sordid deeds.


Exactly. He probably has his own section on GRUhub.
 
2020-10-23 7:58:36 AM  
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jso2897: Krieghund: Gosh, it's just awful when people slander other people, isn't it?

Imagine being such a leftist degenerate that you say mean things about someone, instead of shooting them with an AR-15, like a normal person.


Hey. There are many different firearms available to Americans that can do the job as good and maybe better than the AR-15. A shotgun or a pistol is often a better choice depending on circumstances. Take a little time to make good choices when defending your fragile ego rather than leaping straight for the AR-15.
 
2020-10-23 7:54:42 AM  
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PiperArrow: FTFA: "I'm tucking my shirt in, I assure you that's all I was doing," Giuliani told WABC radio on Wednesday.

Well, if we have your assurance, that's good enough for me!

I've lived a long time, not as long as Giuliani, but long enough to have grandchildren. I can confidently say that I have never once tucked my shirt in while laying down in bed. It defeats the whole purpose of the act --- the shirt isn't going to be neatly tucked in by the time I stand up. So either Giuliani is a complete moron, or he's a big fat liar.

Verdict: Giuliani is a moron and a liar.


To be fair, you're also probably not grossly obese and 76 years old.

People's ways of adjusting to decrepitude are...weird.

Also, fark Rudy.
 
2020-10-23 7:53:34 AM  
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Bob The Nob: I haven't seen it yet, but while I do feel this is overblown ... who lays down to "tuck in"?  Honestly?


His gut overhangs his waist, he needs to lie back to suck it in enough to get his hands under his waistband.
 
2020-10-23 7:48:30 AM  
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Krieghund: Gosh, it's just awful when people slander other people, isn't it?


Imagine being such a leftist degenerate that you say mean things about someone, instead of shooting them with an AR-15, like a normal person.
 
2020-10-23 7:45:04 AM  
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Enjoyed the film this morning... as stated above, more gropy then pedo.


Still funny as hell
 
2020-10-23 7:27:06 AM  
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So Rudy Giuliani was masturbating out of context? Kinky.
 
2020-10-23 5:06:51 AM  
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I watched it all too.  It looked like she pulled his shirt out of his pants for some reason and he was definitely tucking it back in, because he used both hands pushing down.  You only need one hand to say hello to your best friend.
 
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