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(Deadspin)   The term "distraction" has been used by the NFL "time and time again with Colin Kaepernick, but never with guys who've actually gotten into trouble with the legal system"   (deadspin.com) divider line
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2020-10-22 5:40:47 PM  
Of course. He challenged the power dynamic.
 
2020-10-22 6:37:14 PM  
I agree with the overall point, but...

And even further, does the NFL not care about the optics of how this looks?

Can we get Deadspin an editor?
 
2020-10-22 10:48:43 PM  
We all knew all of this years ago. Nobody with power cared because, to them, the biggest crime anyone can commit is toppling the status quo that keeps them in power.
 
2020-10-22 11:07:03 PM  
Whoa, is that brutal. Sometimes the truth is, though.
 
2020-10-23 1:31:27 AM  
I mean, Antonio Brown is just a farking nutjob. He's also a nutjob at a diva position. So they get a lot of slack.

This article should be about Richie Incognoblacks. That asshole shouldn't be in the league for a number of reasons.
 
2020-10-23 1:47:38 AM  

puffy999: This article should be about Richie Incognoblacks. That asshole shouldn't be in the league for a number of reasons.


That psycho may have a future in professional wrestling as a Scott Steineresque batshiat monster heel.
 
2020-10-23 2:00:57 AM  

puffy999: I mean, Antonio Brown is just a farking nutjob. He's also a nutjob at a diva position. So they get a lot of slack.

This article should be about Richie Incognoblacks. That asshole shouldn't be in the league for a number of reasons.


I thought Richie was homophobic.
 
2020-10-23 2:04:06 AM  

ZMugg: I thought Richie was homophobic.


He probably is, but he was suspended for the racist shiat.

He also threw dumbbells at a fellow gym patron and destroyed a boxing mannequin during a psychotic episode.
 
2020-10-23 2:04:20 AM  

ZMugg: puffy999: I mean, Antonio Brown is just a farking nutjob. He's also a nutjob at a diva position. So they get a lot of slack.

This article should be about Richie Incognoblacks. That asshole shouldn't be in the league for a number of reasons.

I thought Richie was homophobic.


Hmm, I thought he was all of it. He also hates redacteds (not those, the other ones).
 
2020-10-23 2:05:36 AM  

Hoban Washburne: I agree with the overall point, but...

And even further, does the NFL not care about the optics of how this looks?

Can we get Deadspin an editor?


No, they all quit on principle
 
2020-10-23 2:07:03 AM  

Riothamus: ZMugg: I thought Richie was homophobic.

He probably is, but he was suspended for the racist shiat.

He also threw dumbbells at a fellow gym patron and destroyed a boxing mannequin during a psychotic episode.


puffy999: ZMugg: puffy999: I mean, Antonio Brown is just a farking nutjob. He's also a nutjob at a diva position. So they get a lot of slack.

This article should be about Richie Incognoblacks. That asshole shouldn't be in the league for a number of reasons.

I thought Richie was homophobic.

Hmm, I thought he was all of it. He also hates redacteds (not those, the other ones).


Thank you both.
 
2020-10-23 2:52:20 AM  

Serious Black: We all knew all of this years ago. Nobody with power cared because, to them, the biggest crime anyone can commit is toppling the status quo that keeps them in power.


Including some of the athletes.

Like it or not, some athletes are lucrative enough that fans, sponsors and sports officials give them a pass on nasty behavior, and other athletes aren't.

Michael Vick, Mike Tyson, Conor McGregor, Kobe Bryant, Darryl Strawberry, Craig MacTavish: Drugs, domestic assault, child abuse, rape--no one cared. Some of them even served time and picked up right where they left off career-wise.

Kaepernick, OTOH, is not in that group. I don't think he'd be playing at all if they could get away with quietly showing him the door.

I don't follow sports very closely but the last time I can remember an athlete getting into trouble and NOT getting away with it, on principle alone, was when Pete Rose got caught betting on his own team. They fired him and IIRC he was declared ineligible for the hall of fame.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the betting wasn't even illegal, was it? Just unethical?

Almost seems quaint and silly. Nowadays he'd be president of MLB, guesting on Dr. Phil talking about gambling addiction, selling Old Spice on World Series commercials, cooking with Martha Stewart and an announcer for Texas Hold 'Em nationals.
 
2020-10-23 3:36:03 AM  

Sensei Can You See: Serious Black: We all knew all of this years ago. Nobody with power cared because, to them, the biggest crime anyone can commit is toppling the status quo that keeps them in power.

Including some of the athletes.

Like it or not, some athletes are lucrative enough that fans, sponsors and sports officials give them a pass on nasty behavior, and other athletes aren't.

Michael Vick, Mike Tyson, Conor McGregor, Kobe Bryant, Darryl Strawberry, Craig MacTavish: Drugs, domestic assault, child abuse, rape--no one cared. Some of them even served time and picked up right where they left off career-wise.

Kaepernick, OTOH, is not in that group. I don't think he'd be playing at all if they could get away with quietly showing him the door.

I don't follow sports very closely but the last time I can remember an athlete getting into trouble and NOT getting away with it, on principle alone, was when Pete Rose got caught betting on his own team. They fired him and IIRC he was declared ineligible for the hall of fame.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the betting wasn't even illegal, was it? Just unethical?

Almost seems quaint and silly. Nowadays he'd be president of MLB, guesting on Dr. Phil talking about gambling addiction, selling Old Spice on World Series commercials, cooking with Martha Stewart and an announcer for Texas Hold 'Em nationals.


Jalen Ramsey.

Forget the career malcontent shiat, trashing teammates and coaches, etc.

Punching a child's uncle because rahrah manhood? And NOBODY cared? NFL? NFLPA? No? A tiny fine isn't enough.
 
2020-10-23 4:43:45 AM  
Well, the headline is a lie.
 
2020-10-23 7:41:22 AM  
I wanna know which one of you degenerates keeps linking Deadspins corpse, much less thinks the hacks they employ are insightful.
 
2020-10-23 7:44:12 AM  

Sensei Can You See: Kaepernick, OTOH, is not in that group. I don't think he'd be playing at all if they could get away with quietly showing him the door.


He's NOT playing at all. He hasn't played in years
 
2020-10-23 8:09:31 AM  
The only player I can think of not getting away with something is Ray Rice. That was probably due because it was caught on security cams beating his girl in the elevator.
I'm not a football fan but I work for a very pro ravens company and people there stopped wearing his jersey overnight.
 
2020-10-23 8:09:34 AM  

ZMugg: Riothamus: ZMugg: I thought Richie was homophobic.

He probably is, but he was suspended for the racist shiat.

He also threw dumbbells at a fellow gym patron and destroyed a boxing mannequin during a psychotic episode.

puffy999: ZMugg: puffy999: I mean, Antonio Brown is just a farking nutjob. He's also a nutjob at a diva position. So they get a lot of slack.

This article should be about Richie Incognoblacks. That asshole shouldn't be in the league for a number of reasons.

I thought Richie was homophobic.

Hmm, I thought he was all of it. He also hates redacteds (not those, the other ones).

Thank you both.


He also wanted to cut the head off of his fathers' body at a wake (for research purposes) and threatened to shoot funeral home employees when they stopped him:  https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/n​ews/pol​ice-report-richie-incognito-wanted-to-​cut-off-his-dead-fathers-head-at-funer​al-home/

The guy has serious mental problems.  Of course, the NFL gave him his job back but with the stipulation that they'd punish him if he had another mental episode.  The NFL deals with mental health through fines and suspensions.  WTF.
 
2020-10-23 8:10:35 AM  

SuperChuck: Sensei Can You See: Kaepernick, OTOH, is not in that group. I don't think he'd be playing at all if they could get away with quietly showing him the door.

He's NOT playing at all. He hasn't played in years


If by years you mean months then, yes.  He plays for the Raiders and is out with an Achilles tendon injury.
 
2020-10-23 8:26:07 AM  

groppet: The only player I can think of not getting away with something is Ray Rice. That was probably due because it was caught on security cams beating his girl in the elevator.
I'm not a football fan but I work for a very pro ravens company and people there stopped wearing his jersey overnight.


Adrian Peterson was forced to sit out a season after he gave his child flesh wounds with a switch.  He also once missed a game because the team plane hit some turbulence and he swallowed his chewing tobacco.
 
2020-10-23 8:40:22 AM  

Flappyhead: SuperChuck: Sensei Can You See: Kaepernick, OTOH, is not in that group. I don't think he'd be playing at all if they could get away with quietly showing him the door.

He's NOT playing at all. He hasn't played in years

If by years you mean months then, yes.  He plays for the Raiders and is out with an Achilles tendon injury.


You might want to check your math on that one. Kaepernick never played for any team but the 49ers and hasn't been on a roster since 2016
 
2020-10-23 8:48:46 AM  

Flappyhead: SuperChuck: Sensei Can You See: Kaepernick, OTOH, is not in that group. I don't think he'd be playing at all if they could get away with quietly showing him the door.

He's NOT playing at all. He hasn't played in years

If by years you mean months then, yes.  He plays for the Raiders and is out with an Achilles tendon injury.


Are you thinking of Richie Incognito?
 
2020-10-23 9:12:23 AM  
stop linking to scab deadspin
 
2020-10-23 9:15:49 AM  

Rapmaster2000: ZMugg: Riothamus: ZMugg: I thought Richie was homophobic.

He probably is, but he was suspended for the racist shiat.

He also threw dumbbells at a fellow gym patron and destroyed a boxing mannequin during a psychotic episode.

puffy999: ZMugg: puffy999: I mean, Antonio Brown is just a farking nutjob. He's also a nutjob at a diva position. So they get a lot of slack.

This article should be about Richie Incognoblacks. That asshole shouldn't be in the league for a number of reasons.

I thought Richie was homophobic.

Hmm, I thought he was all of it. He also hates redacteds (not those, the other ones).

Thank you both.

He also wanted to cut the head off of his fathers' body at a wake (for research purposes) and threatened to shoot funeral home employees when they stopped him:  https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/ne​ws/police-report-richie-incognito-want​ed-to-cut-off-his-dead-fathers-head-at​-funeral-home/

The guy has serious mental problems.  Of course, the NFL gave him his job back but with the stipulation that they'd punish him if he had another mental episode.  The NFL deals with mental health through fines and suspensions.  WTF.


Might have completely been an act for the cameras and I don't know if he's had any newer incidents since then, but I remember watching Hark Knocks last year(?) and it definitely seemed like he had at least started getting the help he needed.  Pretty sure he mentioned anger management classes.
 
2020-10-23 9:22:53 AM  
Sensei Can You See:

I don't follow sports very closely but the last time I can remember an athlete getting into trouble and NOT getting away with it, on principle alone, was when Pete Rose got caught betting on his own team. They fired him and IIRC he was declared ineligible for the hall of fame.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the betting wasn't even illegal, was it? Just unethical?


This is posted in every clubhouse in the MLB:

Major League Baseball Rule 21, Section D:
"Any player, umpire, or Club or League official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has no duty to perform, shall be declared ineligible for one year.
Any player, umpire, or Club or League official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform, shall be declared permanently ineligible."
 
2020-10-23 9:24:31 AM  
Distraction is often used as a catchall for off-field issues, including troubles with the law.  Stop lying, subs.
 
2020-10-23 9:28:55 AM  
I just went to the site the former Deadspin guys started, Defector, and apparently they haven't put the paywall up yet.
Interesting.
 
2020-10-23 10:23:37 AM  

State_College_Arsonist: Distraction is often used as a catchall for off-field issues, including troubles with the law.  Stop lying, subs.


"Distraction" is "stuff we don't wanna talk about.

Racism and protecting cops who use their badge to get away with battery and murder isn't going away, so that will be a constant "distraction".

A guy's crime? Eh, as long as he doesn't publicly commit another crime, easy to ignore and pretend it's not a problem anymore.
 
2020-10-23 11:11:33 AM  

Sensei Can You See: Serious Black: We all knew all of this years ago. Nobody with power cared because, to them, the biggest crime anyone can commit is toppling the status quo that keeps them in power.

Including some of the athletes.

Like it or not, some athletes are lucrative enough that fans, sponsors and sports officials give them a pass on nasty behavior, and other athletes aren't.

Michael Vick, Mike Tyson, Conor McGregor, Kobe Bryant, Darryl Strawberry, Craig MacTavish: Drugs, domestic assault, child abuse, rape--no one cared. Some of them even served time and picked up right where they left off career-wise.

Kaepernick, OTOH, is not in that group. I don't think he'd be playing at all if they could get away with quietly showing him the door.

I don't follow sports very closely but the last time I can remember an athlete getting into trouble and NOT getting away with it, on principle alone, was when Pete Rose got caught betting on his own team. They fired him and IIRC he was declared ineligible for the hall of fame.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the betting wasn't even illegal, was it? Just unethical?

Almost seems quaint and silly. Nowadays he'd be president of MLB, guesting on Dr. Phil talking about gambling addiction, selling Old Spice on World Series commercials, cooking with Martha Stewart and an announcer for Texas Hold 'Em nationals.


Can we not lump Darryl Strawberry in with rapists?

Dude had major drug problems. He broke drug laws repeatedly. I have trouble viewing that as a moral failing, unlike, you know, rape.

He also got punished pretty harshly by the league for his drug use.

/also, fark Pete Rose. Mario Soto wants his arm back.
 
2020-10-23 12:15:46 PM  
Dear fark, stop trying to make Kaepernick a thing. It's not gonna happen.
 
2020-10-23 12:47:44 PM  

Rapmaster2000: ZMugg: Riothamus: ZMugg: I thought Richie was homophobic.

He probably is, but he was suspended for the racist shiat.

He also threw dumbbells at a fellow gym patron and destroyed a boxing mannequin during a psychotic episode.

puffy999: ZMugg: puffy999: I mean, Antonio Brown is just a farking nutjob. He's also a nutjob at a diva position. So they get a lot of slack.

This article should be about Richie Incognoblacks. That asshole shouldn't be in the league for a number of reasons.

I thought Richie was homophobic.

Hmm, I thought he was all of it. He also hates redacteds (not those, the other ones).

Thank you both.

He also wanted to cut the head off of his fathers' body at a wake (for research purposes) and threatened to shoot funeral home employees when they stopped him:  https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/ne​ws/police-report-richie-incognito-want​ed-to-cut-off-his-dead-fathers-head-at​-funeral-home/

The guy has serious mental problems.  Of course, the NFL gave him his job back but with the stipulation that they'd punish him if he had another mental episode.  The NFL deals with mental health through fines and suspensions.  WTF.


Easy. No one is going to call Jerry Jones about it or tweet that people with mental health issues disrespect the Flag, the Veterans, and Police Officers.
 
2020-10-23 5:10:28 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: No one is going to call Jerry Jones about it or tweet that people with mental health issues disrespect the Flag, the Veterans, and Police Officers.


People who truly think that the above is what is going on are as loud as can be about the matter and I think to an extent it makes others glom onto the cause even though they don't truly think that and really, they know better. That the latter group receives outsized attention is plain to see but in my experience those views are not shared by the vast majority who are supposed to take issue with it.

The eternal issue of the misguided zealot in possession of a heart that might be felt to be in the right place but goes way overboard on behalf of people they are not a part of themselves also pops up quite often on this topic. It is not helpful.

It is unfortunate but also understandable that the thoughts of the small minority can be mistaken to be the views of all who portray themselves as speaking for this group or that group when such is not the case at all. I don't feel that the approach of the majority necessarily should change when it comes to those not among their number on the outside because it'd be uncomfortable situations for many were they to express their thoughts. I'm unsure as to how to get that last part across properly but it is true, perhaps I can't.
 
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