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2020-10-22 8:45:46 PM  
Christ.
 
2020-10-22 9:08:39 PM  
It IS happening here.
 
2020-10-22 9:31:20 PM  
Lawyers and human rights advocates said there had been a significant acceleration of deportations in recent weeks, a trend they see as linked to the looming elections and the possibility that Ice could soon be under new management.

It's a once in a lifetime torture opportunity for deplorables. Soon they'll be mall cops again, maybe even back in the basement, so might as well steal some kids and beat some immigrants while the good times are going, then lay low and let management take the heat, claiming you were just following orders.

This time, I say we don't let them. I say every single one of those who either gave or followed orders goes to jail.

Every. Single. One.
 
2020-10-22 10:25:19 PM  
*cries*
 
2020-10-22 11:00:06 PM  
This saddens me so much. I would read asylum files in horror of the treatment some of these people faced in their home countries... now we're them.
 
2020-10-22 11:03:27 PM  
Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore...

Oh, wait.
 
2020-10-22 11:04:44 PM  
Nazi America... I didn't expect to see this in my lifetime until George W. Bush became president.
 
2020-10-22 11:05:10 PM  
Guys, we're the Axis now.
 
2020-10-22 11:05:10 PM  
Nonono.  When Biden separated children from their families it sounded like this.  When my Trump Administration separated children from their families it sounded like this.  Totally different!

/it felt dirty typing that
//but the reference had to be made
 
2020-10-22 11:05:15 PM  

koder: Lawyers and human rights advocates said there had been a significant acceleration of deportations in recent weeks, a trend they see as linked to the looming elections and the possibility that Ice could soon be under new management.

It's a once in a lifetime torture opportunity for deplorables. Soon they'll be mall cops again, maybe even back in the basement, so might as well steal some kids and beat some immigrants while the good times are going, then lay low and let management take the heat, claiming you were just following orders.

This time, I say we don't let them. I say every single one of those who either gave or followed orders goes to jail.

Every. Single. One.


We're going to find mass graves.
 
2020-10-22 11:05:58 PM  

koder: Lawyers and human rights advocates said there had been a significant acceleration of deportations in recent weeks, a trend they see as linked to the looming elections and the possibility that Ice could soon be under new management.

It's a once in a lifetime torture opportunity for deplorables. Soon they'll be mall cops again, maybe even back in the basement, so might as well steal some kids and beat some immigrants while the good times are going, then lay low and let management take the heat, claiming you were just following orders.

This time, I say we don't let them. I say every single one of those who either gave or followed orders goes to jail.

Every. Single. One.


We need to turn them over to an international body.  We can't let them slide on this, and the good ol' boy network is going to let a lot of scumbags walk.
 
2020-10-22 11:08:17 PM  
People who want to abuse others seek positions of authority that allows them to abuse their chosen targets. Once a critical mass is achieved in the organization, the real hell begins. I believe these peoples allegations.
 
2020-10-22 11:09:05 PM  
Holy shiat. That is pure, unmitigated evil.
 
2020-10-22 11:12:19 PM  

Riothamus: koder: Lawyers and human rights advocates said there had been a significant acceleration of deportations in recent weeks, a trend they see as linked to the looming elections and the possibility that Ice could soon be under new management.

It's a once in a lifetime torture opportunity for deplorables. Soon they'll be mall cops again, maybe even back in the basement, so might as well steal some kids and beat some immigrants while the good times are going, then lay low and let management take the heat, claiming you were just following orders.

This time, I say we don't let them. I say every single one of those who either gave or followed orders goes to jail.

Every. Single. One.

We're going to find mass graves.


Dont be ridiculous. You're not going to find any immigrants in mass graves. They've all been covered up with bodies from covid deaths.
 
2020-10-22 11:12:38 PM  

zeroman987: koder: Lawyers and human rights advocates said there had been a significant acceleration of deportations in recent weeks, a trend they see as linked to the looming elections and the possibility that Ice could soon be under new management.

It's a once in a lifetime torture opportunity for deplorables. Soon they'll be mall cops again, maybe even back in the basement, so might as well steal some kids and beat some immigrants while the good times are going, then lay low and let management take the heat, claiming you were just following orders.

This time, I say we don't let them. I say every single one of those who either gave or followed orders goes to jail.

Every. Single. One.

We need to turn them over to an international body.  We can't let them slide on this, and the good ol' boy network is going to let a lot of scumbags walk.


This. It's long past time for America to lose the special exemptions it had for itself in international law.
 
2020-10-22 11:13:00 PM  
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Fark your whining about "purity tests". ICE, Homeland Security, the TSA, and everything implemented after September 11th must be abolished.
 
2020-10-22 11:14:02 PM  
It's barely newsworthy that the US tortures people.
 
2020-10-22 11:15:13 PM  
We're definitely the baddies.
 
2020-10-22 11:16:49 PM  

Name Withheld: Guys, we're the Axis now.


Needlessly Complicated: We're definitely the baddies.


Yeah, you beat me to it...fark...
 
2020-10-22 11:17:17 PM  
I seriously have no good words to express how much I hate my own country now. US citizen? If you aren't rich, you're disposable, and if you're lucky you'll get some kind lies from your betters. If you think otherwise, you're naive. If you're an immigrant that doesn't look whiter than the driven snow and haven't got your papers, you're getting this kind of treatment or living in fear of it.

fark, this is all so far beyond the pale I don't even know how much having papers would help anyone at this point.
 
2020-10-22 11:17:58 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Dont be ridiculous. You're not going to find any immigrants in mass graves. They've all been covered up with bodies from covid deaths.


I get what you're trying to do, but seriously- don't. Stop.

We'll spend the rest of our lives atoning for these horrors in one way or another.
 
2020-10-22 11:19:21 PM  

Summoner101: Nonono.  When Biden separated children from their families it sounded like this.  When my Trump Administration separated children from their families it sounded like this.  Totally different!

/it felt dirty typing that
//but the reference had to be made


Yea, 'cept under the Obama administration it was waves of unaccompanied minors they needed the facilities for, cant really separate them from their parents if there are no parents with them.
 
2020-10-22 11:19:53 PM  
I used to salute our flag.

We should be spitting on it.
 
2020-10-22 11:22:49 PM  
 
2020-10-22 11:23:09 PM  

MurphyMurphy: I used to salute our flag.

We should be spitting on it.


I maintain my position that flag-burning is patriotic speech. It's why the nationalistic shiatwads that hide behind the banner while using it as a bumper sticker are so offended by it.
 
2020-10-22 11:23:51 PM  
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2020-10-22 11:27:10 PM  

whr21: Summoner101: Nonono.  When Biden separated children from their families it sounded like this.  When my Trump Administration separated children from their families it sounded like this.  Totally different!

/it felt dirty typing that
//but the reference had to be made

Yea, 'cept under the Obama administration it was waves of unaccompanied minors they needed the facilities for, cant really separate them from their parents if there are no parents with them.


just in case you took me seriously
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2020-10-22 11:37:24 PM  
Abolish ICE.

If you disagree, you're a Nazi. There's no middle ground on this.
 
2020-10-22 11:42:54 PM  
Otoh, I don't put it past them to do this.

On the other, why? Deporting people is so freaking easy and guaranteed I'm somewhat surprised they'd bother. Nobody has to agree to deportation or removal. Especially under Trump where they minimize any deferrals and deny credible fear claims. After the MPP stuff, one would think they'd have the bedspace.
 
2020-10-22 11:45:24 PM  
No see it's different because theirs is DO DO DO DO-DO DO DA. Whereas mine goes like DO YU WANT YU NUTS KICKED-IN AGAIN YOU SAUCY BAG OF CHEESE IF NOT SIGN THIS DA

Totally different.

/15 minutes too late
 
2020-10-22 11:48:53 PM  
And, people not from mexico rarely even have the option of taking a quicker removal. Regardless of what they sign they get a date in immigration court. Once there their previously signed statements can be contested. There is literally an option to admit entering illegally and requesting a quicker removal, and it ends up in court the same as those who request an immigration hearing.

If this is happening, something worse than punishing detainees is in place. I don't say that to detract from that shiat. I say that because doing that shiat is deliberately ineffective. So that means a bunch of IJs are in cahoots.

Expedited removals occur without permission from the immigrant; the immigration officer or agent acts as the IJ.
 
2020-10-22 11:49:16 PM  

austerity101: Abolish ICE.

If you disagree, you're a Nazi. There's no middle ground on this.


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2020-10-22 11:51:47 PM  
Apparently I meant DING DING DING DIGGY DING DINK. Not what I typed which for the record was "DO DO DO DO-DO DO DA". It's not the same at all.
 
2020-10-22 11:52:58 PM  
Lastly, under covid USBP isn't even taking custody of people they catch unless they have heavy criminal/immigration histories. At the southern border my contacts say they are doing immediate VRs to the port and returning people to mexico. I assume CBP has a similar program.
 
2020-10-22 11:53:38 PM  
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2020-10-22 11:54:49 PM  
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2020-10-22 11:57:41 PM  
This just in, allegations = fact immediately and no other proof is required. This should be investigated and if true, those responsible should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Pretty sure we won't hear anything about this or the 2 women who had loose allegations that they had cruel surgeries performed on them against their will from Mexico of which the very trustworthy Mexican authorities are conducting their own investigation. No, we rarely hear about when allegations don't quite pan out now do we? If in fact stories like this are factual, it would be on every headline in America and not get buried with *insert news cycle propaganda allegation of the day*.
 
2020-10-23 12:00:57 AM  

edmo: It IS happening here.


Note TFA says "It's not new but it's accelerating."

It's ALWAYS been happening here, just moreso now.
 
2020-10-23 12:02:02 AM  
Keep good track of this, so the next 9/11 doesn't "come out of nowhere" like the last one did.
 
2020-10-23 12:02:52 AM  

leeksfromchichis: edmo: It IS happening here.

Note TFA says "It's not new but it's accelerating."

It's ALWAYS been happening here, just moreso now.


https://www.jacobinmag.com/2020/08/ge​o​rge-bush-administration-donald-trump-d​hs-ice
 
2020-10-23 12:03:18 AM  
Some day, ICE will kill a protected person such as a foreign diplomat, and the ensuing shyte storm will be awesome.
 
2020-10-23 12:11:49 AM  

Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image 606x317]

Fark your whining about "purity tests". ICE, Homeland Security, the TSA, and everything implemented after September 11th must be abolished.

 
2020-10-23 12:15:42 AM  
Im so glad im a white male living in 'Murica. I get all the rewards, and none of the problems.
 
2020-10-23 12:16:06 AM  
Sure ICE are not the SS in charge of concentration camps, but they are damn close.

These evil bastards need to be dealt with.
 
2020-10-23 12:18:13 AM  

Smackledorfer: Otoh, I don't put it past them to do this.

On the other, why? Deporting people is so freaking easy and guaranteed I'm somewhat surprised they'd bother. Nobody has to agree to deportation or removal. Especially under Trump where they minimize any deferrals and deny credible fear claims. After the MPP stuff, one would think they'd have the bedspace.


Just like in the USSR they still had to have show trials and signatures on the sentencing documents before they shipped people off to Gulag, here we still have to have those poor saps sign on the dotted line that they've been "fully advised of their civil rights and waived their right to a hearing" before they get mailed back to Cameroon in a box to save that government the time of building extra coffins.

They're not agreeing to deportation per se, but they do have to acknowledge they've waived any rights to hearing before a judge. AND YOU DID AGREE TO THAT RIGHT YOU N***** SONOFAB*TCH?????
 
2020-10-23 12:36:57 AM  
There are times when "DUMBASS" and "ASININE" and "MURICA and even "SICK" just don't cut it. Fark needs a just plain "EVIL" tag, stat.
 
2020-10-23 1:02:59 AM  

koder: Lawyers and human rights advocates said there had been a significant acceleration of deportations in recent weeks, a trend they see as linked to the looming elections and the possibility that Ice could soon be under new management.

It's a once in a lifetime torture opportunity for deplorables. Soon they'll be mall cops again, maybe even back in the basement, so might as well steal some kids and beat some immigrants while the good times are going, then lay low and let management take the heat, claiming you were just following orders.

This time, I say we don't let them. I say every single one of those who either gave or followed orders goes to the gallows.

Every. Single. One.


Fixed that for ya. Prison is very expensive, rope is very cheap, and these lot have already demonstrated their lack of redeeming features.
 
2020-10-23 1:31:41 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Keep good track of this, so the next 9/11 doesn't "come out of nowhere" like the last one did.


Are you trying to insinuate that we are responsible for 9/11? Fark off man.
 
2020-10-23 2:14:45 AM  

the money is in the banana stand: Gyrfalcon: Keep good track of this, so the next 9/11 doesn't "come out of nowhere" like the last one did.

Are you trying to insinuate that we are responsible for 9/11? Fark off man.


Nah, terrorists just sprout out of the ground and start chanting 'Death to America'. They just hate us for our freedoms, don'tcha know.
 
2020-10-23 2:37:13 AM  
First things Biden should do :

1. Put the entire trump and Bush admins under arrest
2. Put the entire ICE department under arrest
3. Sign the US into the ICC
4. Send them all to the ICC
5. Those who are found not guilty are brought back and tried again under US law for their crimes
 
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