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2020-10-22 1:16:30 PM  
I'm a white guy. I was a military officer. I've worked in government agencies. I still keep my hair short and shave. I learned a long time ago that putting on a suit let's me walk into buildings and down hallways without a second glance. If you fit the right stereotypes, you can do a lot of bad things in a short time.

/no actual bad things were done before this post
 
2020-10-22 1:42:05 PM  
that is nothing
did you see who's in the white house?
 
2020-10-22 5:36:35 PM  
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2020-10-22 5:37:52 PM  
Wasn't this a subplot from True Lies?
 
2020-10-22 5:39:37 PM  
Dude took it too far.

See, now I would have been satisfied just going undercover with some hot chicks and called it a win.
 
2020-10-22 5:40:49 PM  
You ever notice that nothing that the Daily Beast reports ever has any logical resolution?
 
2020-10-22 5:43:41 PM  

edmo: I'm a white guy. I was a military officer. I've worked in government agencies. I still keep my hair short and shave. I learned a long time ago that putting on a suit let's me walk into buildings and down hallways without a second glance. If you fit the right stereotypes, you can do a lot of bad things in a short time.

/no actual bad things were done before this post


Well when I was in High School I would brazenly walk down the halls during class armed with nothing but a small blank piece of paper held in plain view. The teacher's and principal's eyes would always flash to the paper and I would be allowed to pass unchallenged.
 
2020-10-22 5:47:52 PM  
I'm not even mad, that's hilarious.
 
2020-10-22 5:51:50 PM  
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2020-10-22 5:52:01 PM  
Can anyone say byzantine?
Yes I knew you could.
 
2020-10-22 5:52:24 PM  

WastrelWay: You ever notice that nothing that the Daily Beast reports ever has any logical resolution?


Um, the FBI caught him, and he pleaded guilty to wire fraud. What other kind of resolution were you expecting?
 
2020-10-22 5:55:56 PM  

edmo: I'm a white guy. I was a military officer. I've worked in government agencies. I still keep my hair short and shave. I learned a long time ago that putting on a suit let's me walk into buildings and down hallways without a second glance. If you fit the right stereotypes, you can do a lot of bad things in a short time.

/no actual bad things were done before this post


Same here.  6'2", graying hair, beard, halfway-decent shape.  Put me in a suit and I can walk just about anywhere in a hospital and never get challenged.  People know that they challenge aging male doctors at their own risk.
 
2020-10-22 5:56:13 PM  

sniderman: Wasn't this a subplot from True Lies?


Came for this
 
2020-10-22 5:58:51 PM  

Clash City Farker: edmo: I'm a white guy. I was a military officer. I've worked in government agencies. I still keep my hair short and shave. I learned a long time ago that putting on a suit let's me walk into buildings and down hallways without a second glance. If you fit the right stereotypes, you can do a lot of bad things in a short time.

/no actual bad things were done before this post

Well when I was in High School I would brazenly walk down the halls during class armed with nothing but a small blank piece of paper held in plain view. The teacher's and principal's eyes would always flash to the paper and I would be allowed to pass unchallenged.


One time I was subbing for the high school art teacher; the kids were working on their art projects, leaving me little to do.  This one kid sat there looking painfully bored -- I don't know if he'd finished his project, or his art partner was out that day, or if he was just a slacker, but I felt sorry for him.  So I walked up to him, handed him a hall pass (it was made out of wood and was shaped like a key; I don't know if all the teachers had one like that or just the art teacher) and said "Here, go wander the halls for awhile."

I've never seen a kid go from bored/morose to "very happy" in so short a time.

To his credit, he was back in about fifteen minutes and I never heard of any unexplained fires or broken windows being discovered that day.
 
2020-10-22 6:06:40 PM  

jayfurr: Clash City Farker: edmo: I'm a white guy. I was a military officer. I've worked in government agencies. I still keep my hair short and shave. I learned a long time ago that putting on a suit let's me walk into buildings and down hallways without a second glance. If you fit the right stereotypes, you can do a lot of bad things in a short time.

/no actual bad things were done before this post

Well when I was in High School I would brazenly walk down the halls during class armed with nothing but a small blank piece of paper held in plain view. The teacher's and principal's eyes would always flash to the paper and I would be allowed to pass unchallenged.

One time I was subbing for the high school art teacher; the kids were working on their art projects, leaving me little to do.  This one kid sat there looking painfully bored -- I don't know if he'd finished his project, or his art partner was out that day, or if he was just a slacker, but I felt sorry for him.  So I walked up to him, handed him a hall pass (it was made out of wood and was shaped like a key; I don't know if all the teachers had one like that or just the art teacher) and said "Here, go wander the halls for awhile."

I've never seen a kid go from bored/morose to "very happy" in so short a time.

To his credit, he was back in about fifteen minutes and I never heard of any unexplained fires or broken windows being discovered that day.


LOL...he got his hearts desire...and found it boring because no-one else was there.
 
2020-10-22 6:07:04 PM  

edmo: I'm a white guy. I was a military officer. I've worked in government agencies. I still keep my hair short and shave. I learned a long time ago that putting on a suit let's me walk into buildings and down hallways without a second glance. If you fit the right stereotypes, you can do a lot of bad things in a short time.

/no actual bad things were done before this post


Same. I briefly had a job selling compliance posters door-to-door, and my partner and I, also a white guy in a suit, walked into so. many. businesses. that let us in to the back room/area/office/whatever just because we were carrying clipboards, wearing suits, and started talking about "compliance."

Very surreal.
 
2020-10-22 6:07:08 PM  
That's so depressing.
 
2020-10-22 6:08:23 PM  
"White guy gets away with something most people who aren't white or male would never be able to do without being challenged immediately" is not really news, but OK. (shrug)
 
2020-10-22 6:11:26 PM  
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Whistler: They probably were government ... just not ours.
 
2020-10-22 6:14:36 PM  
Using the government to dupe people, for personal gain?
That sounds really familiar.
 
2020-10-22 6:17:41 PM  
Even if he was CIA... Do you think they'd claim him.
 
2020-10-22 6:18:17 PM  

edmo: I'm a white guy. I was a military officer. I've worked in government agencies. I still keep my hair short and shave. I learned a long time ago that putting on a suit let's me walk into buildings and down hallways without a second glance. If you fit the right stereotypes, you can do a lot of bad things in a short time.

/no actual bad things were done before this post


Everybody knows that the right clothing and a farking clipboard can get you into 90% of corporate or governmental buildings on the planet.  If you look like you belong there, almost nobody will question you.
 
2020-10-22 6:19:02 PM  
Burn After Reading - What Did We Learn?
Youtube J6VjPM5CeWs
 
2020-10-22 6:26:02 PM  
... didn't I see this in Alias?
 
2020-10-22 6:32:32 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: "White guy gets away with something most people who aren't white or male would never be able to do without being challenged immediately" is not really news, but OK. (shrug)


It's Not News, It's FarkTM
 
2020-10-22 6:44:58 PM  

puckrock2000: WastrelWay: You ever notice that nothing that the Daily Beast reports ever has any logical resolution?

Um, the FBI caught him, and he pleaded guilty to wire fraud. What other kind of resolution were you expecting?


I don't know about the other guy, but i wasn't satisfied 'cause it seems like there was a professional quid-pro-quo, and the CIA is notoriously able to disavow whoever they need to... Right?

"He approached defense contractors and convinced them to put him on their payrolls so he would look like an ordinary citizen as he went about his supposedly covert activities. Courtney promised the companies lucrative government contracts in return-and in some cases, delivered. "

"The scam involved authentic-looking CIA documents, on actual agency letterhead, and briefings by real government officials and military officers in secure rooms called SCIFs. Using these sorts of phony documents, Courtney also managed to convince government employees as well as private citizens that they had been selected to go undercover for the CIA. "

I mean, it seems like everybody was getting what they wanted.... Maybe he was just competition.
 
2020-10-22 6:48:18 PM  

Heamer: Smelly Pirate Hooker: "White guy gets away with something most people who aren't white or male would never be able to do without being challenged immediately" is not really news, but OK. (shrug)

It's Not News, It's FarkTM


All the latest ads in the corner of the site specifically say Fark is all about news.
 
2020-10-22 6:51:50 PM  

edmo: I'm a white guy. I was a military officer. I've worked in government agencies. I still keep my hair short and shave. I learned a long time ago that putting on a suit let's me walk into buildings and down hallways without a second glance. If you fit the right stereotypes, you can do a lot of bad things in a short time.

/no actual bad things were done before this post


This.

As I live in Des Moines, Iowa, every 4 years sees a media circus and candidates descend upon us in droves. By simply dressing the part and swiping a campaign sticker, I've met many of the big names (including two who have made it to the White House), been seen on major news channels in background shots,  swiped all kinds of free food and drink, and met a lot of interesting people.

This trick also works for free upgrades when flying. The trick is to get an off hours flight where not all of the business or first class seats are taken. As long as you didn't pay for a bargain basement fare or are using frequent flier points, you can get a much better seat by dressing and acting the part.
 
2020-10-22 6:53:05 PM  
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2020-10-22 6:59:55 PM  

edmo: I'm a white guy. I was a military officer. I've worked in government agencies. I still keep my hair short and shave. I learned a long time ago that putting on a suit let's me walk into buildings and down hallways without a second glance. If you fit the right stereotypes, you can do a lot of bad things in a short time.

/no actual bad things were done before this post


The employees who process a lot of the documentation are told "Do it and let audit sort it out".  Everyone's a temp, nobody is accountable.
 
2020-10-22 7:10:09 PM  
I'm reminded of an old joke, and I actually typed the whole thing before I decided "NAH!" to posting it.
 
2020-10-22 7:17:44 PM  

jayfurr: Clash City Farker: edmo: I'm a white guy. I was a military officer. I've worked in government agencies. I still keep my hair short and shave. I learned a long time ago that putting on a suit let's me walk into buildings and down hallways without a second glance. If you fit the right stereotypes, you can do a lot of bad things in a short time.

/no actual bad things were done before this post

Well when I was in High School I would brazenly walk down the halls during class armed with nothing but a small blank piece of paper held in plain view. The teacher's and principal's eyes would always flash to the paper and I would be allowed to pass unchallenged.

One time I was subbing for the high school art teacher; the kids were working on their art projects, leaving me little to do.  This one kid sat there looking painfully bored -- I don't know if he'd finished his project, or his art partner was out that day, or if he was just a slacker, but I felt sorry for him.  So I walked up to him, handed him a hall pass (it was made out of wood and was shaped like a key; I don't know if all the teachers had one like that or just the art teacher) and said "Here, go wander the halls for awhile."

I've never seen a kid go from bored/morose to "very happy" in so short a time.

To his credit, he was back in about fifteen minutes and I never heard of any unexplained fires or broken windows being discovered that day.


My kid actually needed something like that in elementary school. It would all be just too much so they got a hall pass and would just sit in the library for a while.
 
2020-10-22 7:34:52 PM  
Only on Fark will you hear about people complaining about white privilege when discussing someone going to prison for a long time.
 
2020-10-22 7:55:33 PM  

bughunter: Dude took it too far.

See, now I would have been satisfied just going undercover with some hot chicks and called it a win.


Dude who looks like that, I'm not surprised he had to move up from millions in fraud to billions.
 
2020-10-22 7:55:56 PM  
Sometimes this nations racism is as simple, but just as damaging, as the benefit of the doubt for some and none for others.
Example #400000000000.
 
2020-10-22 8:00:52 PM  

buckeyebrain: I'm reminded of an old joke, and I actually typed the whole thing before I decided "NAH!" to posting it.


Thanks for letting us know!
 
2020-10-22 8:04:42 PM  
I've been running my steak-defrauding scheme for years now under the guise of a USDA inspector.

It's amazing how much free meat you can get with just a lab coat, a clipboard, and fake credentials. I always need a "sample" of their choice cuts for testing back at the in-state office.

/don't really do that, but one can dream of free steak.
 
2020-10-22 8:06:23 PM  

TheXerox: edmo: I'm a white guy. I was a military officer. I've worked in government agencies. I still keep my hair short and shave. I learned a long time ago that putting on a suit let's me walk into buildings and down hallways without a second glance. If you fit the right stereotypes, you can do a lot of bad things in a short time.

/no actual bad things were done before this post

This.

As I live in Des Moines, Iowa, every 4 years sees a media circus and candidates descend upon us in droves. By simply dressing the part and swiping a campaign sticker, I've met many of the big names (including two who have made it to the White House), been seen on major news channels in background shots,  swiped all kinds of free food and drink, and met a lot of interesting people.

This trick also works for free upgrades when flying. The trick is to get an off hours flight where not all of the business or first class seats are taken. As long as you didn't pay for a bargain basement fare or are using frequent flier points, you can get a much better seat by dressing and acting the part.


You, I like.

Do you like steak? I'm looking for a partner.
 
2020-10-22 8:31:48 PM  

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Whistler: They probably were government ... just not ours.


Were they interested in Setec Astronomy?

/An underrated, fantastic movie that I'm going to have to watch again.
 
2020-10-22 8:37:01 PM  

edmo: I'm a white guy. I was a military officer. I've worked in government agencies. I still keep my hair short and shave. I learned a long time ago that putting on a suit let's me walk into buildings and down hallways without a second glance. If you fit the right stereotypes, you can do a lot of bad things in a short time.

/no actual bad things were done before this post


As a security guard, I learned that a uniform or a mainenance jumpsuit gets you everywhere else.
 
2020-10-22 8:39:47 PM  
Someone is going to make a fortune selling this to Hollywood.
 
2020-10-22 8:51:04 PM  
You don't even need a suit.

Just a confident walk will get you into 90% of places.
As a _teen_ we made a sport of swimming in country club pools without a membership.

Only one stopped us (had a gate guard, our vehicle didn't pass as a band new benz), so we ninjaed back at night. Drove golf carts all over their greens and left them in water hazards and stuck in sand traps. Good times.

'I'm in the CIA/FBI/OSS' is an _ancient_ scammer approach. Much older than Nigerian princes with money to move.
 
2020-10-22 11:56:27 PM  
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2020-10-23 2:04:50 AM  

jayfurr: Clash City Farker: edmo: I'm a white guy. I was a military officer. I've worked in government agencies. I still keep my hair short and shave. I learned a long time ago that putting on a suit let's me walk into buildings and down hallways without a second glance. If you fit the right stereotypes, you can do a lot of bad things in a short time.

/no actual bad things were done before this post

Well when I was in High School I would brazenly walk down the halls during class armed with nothing but a small blank piece of paper held in plain view. The teacher's and principal's eyes would always flash to the paper and I would be allowed to pass unchallenged.

One time I was subbing for the high school art teacher; the kids were working on their art projects, leaving me little to do.  This one kid sat there looking painfully bored -- I don't know if he'd finished his project, or his art partner was out that day, or if he was just a slacker, but I felt sorry for him.  So I walked up to him, handed him a hall pass (it was made out of wood and was shaped like a key; I don't know if all the teachers had one like that or just the art teacher) and said "Here, go wander the halls for awhile."

I've never seen a kid go from bored/morose to "very happy" in so short a time.

To his credit, he was back in about fifteen minutes and I never heard of any unexplained fires or broken windows being discovered that day.


I was in the process of being kicked out of high school. I had to meet with the child study team for several hours while they studied me. After a couple hours my back was aching and I need to take a walk.  I told them I needed a pass. They gave me a pass to wander the halls. No destination, simply wander around.

This pass was golden. I made suspicious wandering movements around all the monitors who knew that I shouldn't be there and then I got to slap it in their hands.
 
2020-10-23 3:33:59 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Only on Fark will you hear about people complaining about white privilege when discussing someone going to prison for a long time.


37 months is not a long time. Given the damage described versus the prosecutor's note to the judge about motivation (no lavish lifestyle was sought), little about the events makes sense.

Given its appearance on Fark? Ok, maybe you're a little right because Fark is a quasi-transparent forum of public discussion. But C'mon. Did you read about it anywhere else? Did you sign up to Fark to be so selective about how Farkers should comment to information you hadn't known about before?

Are you the baddie?

The privilege involved between the perpetrator, investigators, prosecutors, and potential judge is enormous and indicative of indulgences that are revealed in exactly the form of this instance. Privileged males will bend over backwards to excuse criminality among their ranks and as equally bend (and invent) qualifications to condemn the desperation of minorities outside their experience.

And the article? The last fifth are paragraphs of the defendant's same, smooth-talking schtick, but in the "caught" mode. And why shouldn't he stick to what works.

37 months. Billions of dollars. Nearly achieved immunity. More like cost of doing business and a bonus we'll never know about. Lavish lifestyle wasn't a motive? What do they think he achieved? Economic security since 2008 IS A LAVISH LIFESTYLE.
 
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2020-10-23 11:57:48 AM  

donotdoit: jayfurr: Clash City Farker: edmo: I'm a white guy. I was a military officer. I've worked in government agencies. I still keep my hair short and shave. I learned a long time ago that putting on a suit let's me walk into buildings and down hallways without a second glance. If you fit the right stereotypes, you can do a lot of bad things in a short time.

/no actual bad things were done before this post

Well when I was in High School I would brazenly walk down the halls during class armed with nothing but a small blank piece of paper held in plain view. The teacher's and principal's eyes would always flash to the paper and I would be allowed to pass unchallenged.

One time I was subbing for the high school art teacher; the kids were working on their art projects, leaving me little to do.  This one kid sat there looking painfully bored -- I don't know if he'd finished his project, or his art partner was out that day, or if he was just a slacker, but I felt sorry for him.  So I walked up to him, handed him a hall pass (it was made out of wood and was shaped like a key; I don't know if all the teachers had one like that or just the art teacher) and said "Here, go wander the halls for awhile."

I've never seen a kid go from bored/morose to "very happy" in so short a time.

To his credit, he was back in about fifteen minutes and I never heard of any unexplained fires or broken windows being discovered that day.

I was in the process of being kicked out of high school. I had to meet with the child study team for several hours while they studied me. After a couple hours my back was aching and I need to take a walk.  I told them I needed a pass. They gave me a pass to wander the halls. No destination, simply wander around.

This pass was golden. I made suspicious wandering movements around all the monitors who knew that I shouldn't be there and then I got to slap it in their hands.


"Suspicious wandering movements" sounds....suspicious.
 
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