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2020-10-22 10:45:09 AM  
Can't they just send a group email to all 800 residents of the state saying "Jerry in Minot got the rona, be careful."
 
2020-10-22 10:49:03 AM  
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2020-10-22 11:12:45 AM  
Duplicate post from another thread:

My friend is a supervisor for contact tracing in ND and says we are royally boned.

North Dakota now has so many cases they are no longer notifying close contacts, only those who test positive and even that is with the help of the friggin' National Guard.

Actual contact tracing is up to individuals now.

EXCEPT we also have a huge problem of people refusing to be tested or ignoring contact tracing so they don't have to miss out on work or school or going out.  Weddings and kids' sports have been huge super spreaders, along with bars and restaurants.

The school districts that promised to switch to remote learning if it got bad are now refusing to shut down because it would be 'inconvenient for parents.'

The legislature threatened to take away the powers of the state Health Dept if they tried to do anything to improve the situation like (god forbid) put restrictions on bars and restaurants.  Two heads of the health dept. have already resigned (technically 3, but the 1st was on his way out already).

A 20% positive rate if you include retests, about 40% if you only count new, unique individuals suggests we have no real idea how bad it really is other than this: hospitals have been discretely refusing patients and sending cases to Montana for weeks already.
 
2020-10-22 11:26:10 AM  
Apropos of nothing, I just saw someone on the news with noticeably too much hair, presumably because he hadn't gotten a haircut in months.

There was a plot point in Tim Burton's Batman where everybody was scared of a poison created by interactions between cosmetics and shampoos and soaps, so the news anchors got progressively more grubby as time went on.

That's all.
 
2020-10-22 11:31:29 AM  

mofa: Apropos of nothing, I just saw someone on the news with noticeably too much hair, presumably because he hadn't gotten a haircut in months.

There was a plot point in Tim Burton's Batman where everybody was scared of a poison created by interactions between cosmetics and shampoos and soaps, so the news anchors got progressively more grubby as time went on.

That's all.


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2020-10-22 11:48:18 AM  
Seems like mostly idiots are dying.

I think we're gonna come out of this deal for the better.
 
2020-10-22 11:51:05 AM  

dothemath: Seems like mostly idiots are dying.

I think we're gonna come out of this deal for the better.


Well, we're footing the bill right?
At least it's a one time payment.
Don't have to keep bailing them out of the hospital repeatedly after they launch fireworks from their butts.
 
2020-10-22 11:52:23 AM  
Can we beat people not taking Covid seriously with bootstraps?
 
2020-10-22 11:53:48 AM  

Pinner: Don't have to keep bailing them out of the hospital repeatedly after they launch fireworks from their butts.


Arguably, its going to be cheaper for them to die than take care of them after they get diabetes because theyre stupid about food or after they cut off their thumbs because theyre stupid about power tools.
 
2020-10-22 11:54:47 AM  
I mean, it's South Dakota. It's easier to just build wall around SD than actually bothering with contact tracing.
 
2020-10-22 11:56:11 AM  
That's fine. It'll be like how they make sex offenders knock on every door in the neighborhood and scope out potential future victims.
 
2020-10-22 12:00:20 PM  

dothemath: Seems like mostly idiots are dying.

I think we're gonna come out of this deal for the better.


Plenty of doctors, nurses, and teachers caught in the crossfire. Those seem kinda important to me
 
2020-10-22 12:04:03 PM  

Klivian: dothemath: Seems like mostly idiots are dying.

I think we're gonna come out of this deal for the better.

Plenty of doctors, nurses, and teachers caught in the crossfire. Those seem kinda important to me


True. That sucks for them which is why I made a conscious decision early in life to never do anything to help others.
 
2020-10-22 12:04:10 PM  
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2020-10-22 12:04:40 PM  

Klivian: dothemath: Seems like mostly idiots are dying.

I think we're gonna come out of this deal for the better.

Plenty of doctors, nurses, and teachers caught in the crossfire. Those seem kinda important to me


Bartenders and waitresses are the real heroes.  They are risking their lives to get me a beer.
 
2020-10-22 12:08:57 PM  

weddingsinger: Duplicate post from another thread:

My friend is a supervisor for contact tracing in ND and says we are royally boned.

A 20% positive rate if you include retests, about 40% if you only count new, unique individuals suggests we have no real idea how bad it really is other than this: hospitals have been discretely refusing patients and sending cases to Montana for weeks already.


Well, shiat....
 
2020-10-22 12:16:04 PM  
The state announced late Tuesday night that 50 soldiers from the North Dakota National Guard will be shifted from notifying close contacts to calling residents who have tested positive.

Time to build that southern wall to keep out the plague rats.
 
2020-10-22 12:17:39 PM  
Remember when ND was bragging and ridiculing those libby lib blue states? I do.
 
2020-10-22 12:17:57 PM  

40 degree day: That's fine. It'll be like how they make sex offenders knock on every door in the neighborhood and scope out potential future victims.


"Eight year olds, dude"
 
2020-10-22 12:28:11 PM  

RainDawg: Remember when ND was bragging and ridiculing those libby lib blue states? I do.


but did they have tshirts?

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2020-10-22 12:29:48 PM  

weddingsinger: Duplicate post from another thread:

My friend is a supervisor for contact tracing in ND and says we are royally boned.

North Dakota now has so many cases they are no longer notifying close contacts, only those who test positive and even that is with the help of the friggin' National Guard.

Actual contact tracing is up to individuals now.

EXCEPT we also have a huge problem of people refusing to be tested or ignoring contact tracing so they don't have to miss out on work or school or going out.  Weddings and kids' sports have been huge super spreaders, along with bars and restaurants.

The school districts that promised to switch to remote learning if it got bad are now refusing to shut down because it would be 'inconvenient for parents.'

The legislature threatened to take away the powers of the state Health Dept if they tried to do anything to improve the situation like (god forbid) put restrictions on bars and restaurants.  Two heads of the health dept. have already resigned (technically 3, but the 1st was on his way out already).

A 20% positive rate if you include retests, about 40% if you only count new, unique individuals suggests we have no real idea how bad it really is other than this: hospitals have been discretely refusing patients and sending cases to Montana for weeks already.


I have family in ND. My grandma was born there (and we still own a farm in the western part of the state). It's been crazy to watch from here in CA (via Facebook) all of the "regular" things they have been doing in NoDak like youth sports while we haven't even started with that stuff here in CA.
 
2020-10-22 12:30:31 PM  
The in-laws are from Bismarck, so I'm not getting a kick. They wear masks and socially distance, but, as I've found out first hand, those things mean a lot less if others around you don't do the same.

I understand the divisive political climate we're in, but it's still really difficult to comprehend that we have a group of people who are reflexively against anything their perceived enemies want even if it will save thousands of lives. "Loving America" isn't enough. Maybe consider loving Americans.
 
2020-10-22 12:30:51 PM  
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2020-10-22 12:35:29 PM  
^  smh
 
2020-10-22 12:43:36 PM  
Counterpoint:  Suck it, libs!
 
2020-10-22 12:44:13 PM  
The current version of it isn't consistent, it's toothless, they haven't been given the authority, or the tools to do their jobs in a scientifically correct manner.

My daughter got tested at the end of June.  Her test was a mess of inefficiency itself.  It was one of those, "we'll contact you within 48 hours if positive, otherwise, no news is good news" sloppy messes.  Well, it turns out she was notified of a positive test five days later... after she had visited me.

So, I had to self quarantine, scheduled a future test to give the virus time to percolate, it took 8 days for my test results to come in.

I was expecting the contact tracing people to contact me, maybe find out if I was a boring retired hermit (like I am) or a maybe a cafeteria worker, cashier, teacher, and maybe ask who I'd been in contact with, to get a head start on stopping the spread?  Nope, not a word.  Who dropped the ball?  Who the hell knows.  Did the testing facility notify the CDC, did the CDC notify my state/local health department?  Did my state health department outsource the workers to a private company?

My state governor said "NH has one of the best contact tracing programs in the country" but from my point of view, that's a flat out lie.
 
2020-10-22 12:45:06 PM  

weddingsinger: Duplicate post from another thread:

My friend is a supervisor for contact tracing in ND and says we are royally boned.

North Dakota now has so many cases they are no longer notifying close contacts, only those who test positive and even that is with the help of the friggin' National Guard.

Actual contact tracing is up to individuals now.

EXCEPT we also have a huge problem of people refusing to be tested or ignoring contact tracing so they don't have to miss out on work or school or going out.  Weddings and kids' sports have been huge super spreaders, along with bars and restaurants.

The school districts that promised to switch to remote learning if it got bad are now refusing to shut down because it would be 'inconvenient for parents.'

The legislature threatened to take away the powers of the state Health Dept if they tried to do anything to improve the situation like (god forbid) put restrictions on bars and restaurants.  Two heads of the health dept. have already resigned (technically 3, but the 1st was on his way out already).

A 20% positive rate if you include retests, about 40% if you only count new, unique individuals suggests we have no real idea how bad it really is other than this: hospitals have been discretely refusing patients and sending cases to Montana for weeks already.


It's so goddamned shameful
 
2020-10-22 12:45:17 PM  

RainDawg: Remember when ND was bragging and ridiculing those libby lib blue states? I do.


My personal asshole acquaintance was from Utah, but yeah, basically this.
 
2020-10-22 12:50:06 PM  
I wonder if Covidpre19 still exists?
 
2020-10-22 12:50:16 PM  
 
2020-10-22 12:52:59 PM  
Must be buttholes there a plenty if they have to tell people to notify the people around them. Seems like basic decency to tell your friends, family, and coworkers instead of letting somebody else deal with it first. I'm kind of curious about their STD rates now.
 
2020-10-22 12:55:42 PM  

flemardo: Must be buttholes there a plenty if they have to tell people to notify the people around them. Seems like basic decency to tell your friends, family, and coworkers instead of letting somebody else deal with it first. I'm kind of curious about their STD rates now.


Some people might not be in your phone.  Now that the public sphere is basically unrestricted, its contacting the kids on the OTHER hockey team, or everyone who was in a certain restaurant at a certain time (at least, you'd hope it would be).
 
2020-10-22 12:56:35 PM  

weddingsinger: flemardo: Must be buttholes there a plenty if they have to tell people to notify the people around them. Seems like basic decency to tell your friends, family, and coworkers instead of letting somebody else deal with it first. I'm kind of curious about their STD rates now.

Some people might not be in your phone.  Now that the public sphere is basically unrestricted, its contacting the kids on the OTHER hockey team, or everyone who was in a certain restaurant at a certain time (at least, you'd hope it would be).


but, also, yes, there are a LOT of buttholes.  People refusing to get testing, refusing to quarantine, knowing they or their kids are probably sick and continuing to play sports, go to school, or go to work.
 
2020-10-22 1:00:08 PM  
It's getting really, really stupid here. I was contact traced last night. Kid has been lunching with a known positive for DAYS! Minot AFB has declared unequivocally that, "close contacts of close contacts can't get COVID." So my COVID number is absolutely 2, and likely 1. Instead of going to HPCON Charlie, they invented Bravo++. The mentality here is that COVID doesn't exist, and to say otherwise is sacrilege.

Gov. Burgum refuses to do anything meaningful, and then states in his campaign ads that he's, "leading the charge in this Pandemic".

ND was Pandemic weary before it got here. Now we collectively don't care and it's going to kill us.

/Masking up everywhere.
 
2020-10-22 1:03:08 PM  

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2020-10-22 1:15:54 PM  

ajgeek: It's getting really, really stupid here. I was contact traced last night. Kid has been lunching with a known positive for DAYS! Minot AFB has declared unequivocally that, "close contacts of close contacts can't get COVID." So my COVID number is absolutely 2, and likely 1. Instead of going to HPCON Charlie, they invented Bravo++. The mentality here is that COVID doesn't exist, and to say otherwise is sacrilege.

Gov. Burgum refuses to do anything meaningful, and then states in his campaign ads that he's, "leading the charge in this Pandemic".

ND was Pandemic weary before it got here. Now we collectively don't care and it's going to kill us.

/Masking up everywhere.


Ditto.

My wife and I each work at UND flight school.  I double mask - a neck gaiter under a fabric mask now that the masks work provides us aren't medical grade disposables.

If I go down, its not going to be these f*ckers.  It'll be my ex-wife being lax, giving it to our kids and thusly infecting our bubble.  Because she's already wrecked enough of my life, why not kill my parents or my new wife, too?
 
2020-10-22 1:18:26 PM  

AllCatsAreBeautiful: I mean, it's South Dakota.

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2020-10-22 1:29:05 PM  
More evidence that Republicans do not know how to govern.
 
2020-10-22 1:46:28 PM  

weddingsinger: Duplicate post from another thread:

My friend is a supervisor for contact tracing in ND and says we are royally boned.

North Dakota now has so many cases they are no longer notifying close contacts, only those who test positive and even that is with the help of the friggin' National Guard.

Actual contact tracing is up to individuals now.

EXCEPT we also have a huge problem of people refusing to be tested or ignoring contact tracing so they don't have to miss out on work or school or going out.  Weddings and kids' sports have been huge super spreaders, along with bars and restaurants.

The school districts that promised to switch to remote learning if it got bad are now refusing to shut down because it would be 'inconvenient for parents.'

The legislature threatened to take away the powers of the state Health Dept if they tried to do anything to improve the situation like (god forbid) put restrictions on bars and restaurants.  Two heads of the health dept. have already resigned (technically 3, but the 1st was on his way out already).

A 20% positive rate if you include retests, about 40% if you only count new, unique individuals suggests we have no real idea how bad it really is other than this: hospitals have been discretely refusing patients and sending cases to Montana for weeks already.


Don't forget that the state has a bunch of CARES Act money left, and instead of using it to beef up the contact tracing teams or sending masks to every household, they're contemplating giving $16 million (more) dollars to the oil industry. I would love it if Gov. Burgum's constant fark-ups on this cost him the election in favor of his Democratic challenger, but that's probably a wish too far.

https://bismarcktribune.com/news/state​-and-regional/govt-and-politics/state-​looks-to-put-16m-in-federal-virus-fund​s-toward-fracking-grants/article_7cd51​055-3ff9-5b8d-907b-decf31617b85.html#t​racking-source=home-top-story
 
2020-10-22 1:49:22 PM  

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Based on this GIF, Vermont seems to have done quite well, staying in the blue range nearly the entire time.
West Virginia is pretty good but that COVID-19 champ T-shirt over sells it.
 
2020-10-22 1:54:16 PM  

chuggernaught: More evidence that Republicans do not know how to govern.


True.

I have yet to hear of a GOP policy since and including Reagan that is actually good for Americans broadly rather than simply a way to give the rich more money and power.
 
2020-10-22 3:00:37 PM  
I live in Fargo, but travel in about a 2-3 hour radius around here for work. It's insane how little people around here (ND and MN) take this seriously. The only reason it took so long to get bad here is because we have 1/1000th the population density of more of coastal states.

These assholes have pandemic fatigue, even though they changed absolutely nothing at any point in response to said pandemic.

I am the only person in our office of a dozen people who wears a mask at work. The sales guy already was in the office with it a couple of months ago, but didn't manage to infect anyone else before testing positive. Luckily my coworker with Colitis didn't get infected, as the meds for that basically leave you immunocomprimised. She has worked from home since her kids started school, but I would like to believe that she would be wearing one now, though I can't actually saw for sure that she would. A few weeks ago another of my dipshiat coworkers came to the office with a cold, and didn't wear a mask at any point before or after he knew what it was.

Thankfully most of my job sites require people to wear masks, but not all of them. Of course the city/county/LEO complex I service doesn't have any safeguards in place.

It's maddening how stupid, selfish, and hateful so many people in this country are. Everyone likes to pick on the red states, and I get it, I guess. But even in the reddest of red states at least 25% of the population believe in something better than a belief system loosely resembling a youtube comment section, and it's depressing and terrifying on a good day.
 
2020-10-22 3:04:53 PM  
Blue voters in red states are far to stressed out to use preview buttons.
 
2020-10-22 4:24:24 PM  

KiwDaWabbit: The in-laws are from Bismarck, so I'm not getting a kick. They wear masks and socially distance, but, as I've found out first hand, those things mean a lot less if others around you don't do the same.

I understand the divisive political climate we're in, but it's still really difficult to comprehend that we have a group of people who are reflexively against anything their perceived enemies want even if it will save thousands of lives. "Loving America" isn't enough. Maybe consider loving Americans.


If they truly loved America they'd need even not love their neighbors to do anything about it.

It's identity politics.  Plain and simple.  You know, the thing they're always accusing liberals of doing?

Throw that on the pile of being massive hypocrites.
 
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