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2020-10-22 9:07:01 AM  
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/got nuthin
 
2020-10-22 9:22:52 AM  
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/ me neither...
 
2020-10-22 9:25:36 AM  
Does anywhere have accurate info on the total number of people who have been hospitalized for COVID?
 
2020-10-22 10:13:05 AM  

weddingsinger: Does anywhere have accurate info on the total number of people who have been hospitalized for COVID?


Closest I could find COVID-19 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC

I'm wondering what happened to the Contact Tracing reports. They were supposed to let the public know who, what, where and how people may have contracted it. All were seeing is conflicting information and skewed numbers. They're keeping people in the dark and guessing about it. Order in chaos.
 
2020-10-22 10:31:47 AM  
North Dakota now has so many cases they are no longer notifying close contacts, only those who test positive and even that is with the help of the friggin' National Guard.

Actual contact tracing is up to individuals now.

EXCEPT we also have a huge problem of people refusing to be tested or ignoring contact tracing so they don't have to miss out on work or school or going out.  Weddings and kids' sports have been huge super spreaders, along with bars and restaurants.

/friend is a supervisor contact tracer for the state.
//she says we are royally boned.
 
2020-10-22 10:33:41 AM  
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Leon is always available for comment.
 
2020-10-22 10:36:31 AM  
You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred. --Sooper Dooper Chicken
 
2020-10-22 10:36:55 AM  
That's because of pandemic fatigue.  Ignoring medical experts can be really draining!
 
2020-10-22 10:37:14 AM  

weddingsinger: North Dakota now has so many cases they are no longer notifying close contacts, only those who test positive and even that is with the help of the friggin' National Guard.

Actual contact tracing is up to individuals now.

EXCEPT we also have a huge problem of people refusing to be tested or ignoring contact tracing so they don't have to miss out on work or school or going out.  Weddings and kids' sports have been huge super spreaders, along with bars and restaurants.

/friend is a supervisor contact tracer for the state.
//she says we are royally boned.


Missouri district I have insight into has had kids with positive tests continuing to go to school, not notifying the district until much later.

Any guess why? Hint: it's the same motivation for the people who were the most pissed-off about school closures.

Yep. Sports.

Called it before school started. "The sports parents are just gonna not test when they should because they know it might be positive, or not report results if their kids are asymptomatic, so this is gonna be a shiatshow". Yep. Sure enough.

I absolutely guarantee this is happening at most schools that are going in-person and have sports (the part they really, really should have kept shut down even if they had kids back in classrooms, but couldn't because that was the main driver behind the most vocal "open it up now, you liberal scum!" parents)
 
2020-10-22 10:39:10 AM  
Only liberals believe in "facts".

Well you have to admit - that seems to be their attitude.
 
2020-10-22 10:39:59 AM  
By the way, when I searched Leon Meme I find there's a black guy on Facebook by that name, is that the one who is being mentioned on Fark.com a lot lately?
 
2020-10-22 10:42:33 AM  

weddingsinger: Does anywhere have accurate info on the total number of people who have been hospitalized for COVID?


I don't think there's any such thing.
 
2020-10-22 10:43:33 AM  

Godscrack: weddingsinger: Does anywhere have accurate info on the total number of people who have been hospitalized for COVID?

Closest I could find COVID-19 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC

I'm wondering what happened to the Contact Tracing reports. They were supposed to let the public know who, what, where and how people may have contracted it. All were seeing is conflicting information and skewed numbers. They're keeping people in the dark and guessing about it. Order in chaos.


They were never going to tell the public who, HIPAA. When someone gets called by contact tracing,they're just told that they've come in contact with someone who has the virus, and to get tested. Unless the person with the virus signs off on disseminating their information.
 
2020-10-22 10:44:58 AM  
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2020-10-22 10:45:12 AM  
You can't lockdown the country forever.  I'm actually surprised this isn't helping Trump and the Republicans at the polls.  At this point, clearly the pro-science crowd is still greater than the pro-open shiat up crowd.  But that won't remain true forever.
 
2020-10-22 10:45:37 AM  
Anyone want to make a costco run for me? I'd really prefer to stay right here in my bunker while the herd finishes thinning itself out.
 
2020-10-22 10:45:59 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: weddingsinger: Does anywhere have accurate info on the total number of people who have been hospitalized for COVID?

I don't think there's any such thing.


It's been said that one in five people who have it get hospitalized. More reason to be infuriated that it's being downplayed.
 
2020-10-22 10:48:09 AM  

lindalouwho: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: weddingsinger: Does anywhere have accurate info on the total number of people who have been hospitalized for COVID?

I don't think there's any such thing.

It's been said that one in five people who have it get hospitalized. More reason to be infuriated that it's being downplayed.


And the other 4 still get bodily damage they don't know about, sinve the virus deadens nerve pain response while damaging cells, so you don't feel any different and are thus "asymptomatic". To a greater or lesser degree.
 
2020-10-22 10:49:00 AM  

Geotpf: You can't lockdown the country forever.  I'm actually surprised this isn't helping Trump and the Republicans at the polls.  At this point, clearly the pro-science crowd is still greater than the pro-open shiat up crowd.  But that won't remain true forever.


Pro science? Where do you live? Here in NOLA they could not give a fark. We are boned.
 
2020-10-22 10:49:36 AM  

Geotpf: You can't lockdown the country forever.  I'm actually surprised this isn't helping Trump and the Republicans at the polls.  At this point, clearly the pro-science crowd is still greater than the pro-open shiat up crowd.  But that won't remain true forever.


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The 'rona don't give a crap about your feefees.
 
2020-10-22 10:51:03 AM  
Lies. All just a bunch of lies. Gary the mechanic has assured me that Dr. Fauci has no idea what he is talking about and that all the doctors and scientists at the WHO and CDC are wrong. And Karen the housewife with a GED has pointed out that the virus is too small to be stopped by a cloth mask. And come on, who are you going to believe, leading experts in their fields of science and medicine or a mechanic from Pittsburg and a housewife from Dallas?

/Sarcasm
//Sadly there are people like Gary and Karen in this country
 
2020-10-22 10:52:16 AM  

lindalouwho: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: weddingsinger: Does anywhere have accurate info on the total number of people who have been hospitalized for COVID?

I don't think there's any such thing.

It's been said that one in five people who have it get hospitalized. More reason to be infuriated that it's being downplayed.


That's absolutely not true, unless you are referring to a certain age group.

If you are under 50, the chances of you becoming hospitalized is very low, especially if you don't have a pre-existing condition or were medical personnel treating people without proper PPE.

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2020-10-22 10:52:53 AM  

fragMasterFlash: Geotpf: You can't lockdown the country forever.  I'm actually surprised this isn't helping Trump and the Republicans at the polls.  At this point, clearly the pro-science crowd is still greater than the pro-open shiat up crowd.  But that won't remain true forever.

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The 'rona don't give a crap about your feefees.


Soon, the general population will stop giving a crap about the Corona.
 
2020-10-22 10:53:15 AM  

Geotpf: You can't lockdown the country forever.


See, this is the thing literally nobody is asking for but dummies like you keep arguing against.
 
2020-10-22 10:53:54 AM  

weddingsinger: North Dakota now has so many cases they are no longer notifying close contacts, only those who test positive and even that is with the help of the friggin' National Guard.

Actual contact tracing is up to individuals now.

EXCEPT we also have a huge problem of people refusing to be tested or ignoring contact tracing so they don't have to miss out on work or school or going out.  Weddings and kids' sports have been huge super spreaders, along with bars and restaurants.

/friend is a supervisor contact tracer for the state.
//she says we are royally boned.


actual quote from my rural NE dwelling father:

"Everything is pretty much open and nobody is wearing masks, but we're not getting complacent."

😑
 
2020-10-22 10:56:05 AM  

Thank You Black Jesus!: weddingsinger: North Dakota now has so many cases they are no longer notifying close contacts, only those who test positive and even that is with the help of the friggin' National Guard.

Actual contact tracing is up to individuals now.

EXCEPT we also have a huge problem of people refusing to be tested or ignoring contact tracing so they don't have to miss out on work or school or going out.  Weddings and kids' sports have been huge super spreaders, along with bars and restaurants.

/friend is a supervisor contact tracer for the state.
//she says we are royally boned.

actual quote from my rural NE dwelling father:

"Everything is pretty much open and nobody is wearing masks, but we're not getting complacent."

😑


Hope he's got a nice grave picked out.
 
2020-10-22 10:57:29 AM  

colon_canoe: Geotpf: You can't lockdown the country forever.  I'm actually surprised this isn't helping Trump and the Republicans at the polls.  At this point, clearly the pro-science crowd is still greater than the pro-open shiat up crowd.  But that won't remain true forever.

Pro science? Where do you live? Here in NOLA they could not give a fark. We are boned.


Biden in particular and the Democrats in general are winning.

Now, that doesn't mean that there isn't already a large minority who disagree, just that they are the minority.
 
2020-10-22 11:00:26 AM  
He's busy banging Ada Wong and taking down the Umbrella Corporation.

Or is that the wrong Leon?
 
2020-10-22 11:00:28 AM  

dothemath: Geotpf: You can't lockdown the country forever.

See, this is the thing literally nobody is asking for but dummies like you keep arguing against.


I'll give a random example.  Disneyland is still closed, and the Disney company (and it's employees) are getting a little pissed off.

If there is a specific end date, people can hang with this.  But if no vaccine/cure comes in three months, six months, a year, two years, and things are still about where they are now, at some point people are going to rebel.

We aren't there yet, for the most part, but we are damned close.
 
2020-10-22 11:01:13 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: weddingsinger: Does anywhere have accurate info on the total number of people who have been hospitalized for COVID?

I don't think there's any such thing.


That's... weird, right?  I feel like that info should be readily available.
 
2020-10-22 11:08:22 AM  

lindalouwho: It's been said that one in five people who have it get hospitalized.


What the fark are you talking about?
 
2020-10-22 11:11:07 AM  
you were all warned months ago
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2020-10-22 11:18:56 AM  
Yet the U.S. has stubbornly refused to take the steps necessary to get the virus under control.

QFT and we all know whose fault it is that we couldn't promote masks and social distancing.
 
2020-10-22 11:23:47 AM  

Leader O'Cola: you were all warned months ago
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It takes 6 to 8 weeks under strict "lockdown" to decrease 1 order of magnitude once you hit the "red" zone
When you hit around 1/1600  hospitalizations, you overwhelm the medical/hospital system and the morgue cooler trucks are needed.
 
2020-10-22 11:27:12 AM  
the "heartland" is jolly-well-farked until 2021, and that's *if* they take it seriously.


/narrator :  they won't take it seriously
 
2020-10-22 11:29:23 AM  
The only way we'll head in the right direction is with a pro-Science Prez in office. Fat Cheeto doesn't care about it anymore since he's past it and that's all that matters to him.
 
2020-10-22 11:33:19 AM  
We're the frog slowly getting boiled.

1. "OMG THIS IS BAD - SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN" (back in Mar/Apr) - and things got better where it was bad (NY/NJ/MA/etc.).

2. Hey things aren't as bad as people said it would be - let's start re-opening! - and now we start seeing more super-spreader events.  "But hey we can't go BACK!"

3. Yes things keep happening but we've seen this before and things got better - we just have to stay the course (despite that the new spikes are larger than the first ones in many places).

4. But we REALLY tired of doing this - we need to open (schools, bars, restaurants) - it'll be OK because we're SO GOOD at controlling this (even though the basal case rate NEVER came back down and in many states it's really just been a continuing acceleration in cases), and fewer people are dying now as a percentage of positive cases, so things aren't as bad as they said it would be!  (which says more about the capabilities of our medical professionals, not the behavior of the general public).

5. Now things in most places are REALLY out of control, but we're SO USED to COVID at this point, we're not seeing that the case rates in the worst places are more than double the "really really bad" rates we saw in the spring (which was really really bad enough to shut things down).  "But that's OK - a vaccine is coming soon and even though *I'm* not going to take it, so many other people will that COVID doesn't stand a chance!" (yeah, I've heard this "reasoning").

We're farked.   Too many people continually justify an exception to protocols that work ("oh but it's just THIS one wedding", "but sports are important for my kids", "but we ALWAYS go to X in the Fall", "no one around me is sick so I really don't have to wear a mask").   And even protocol isn't enforced: e.g., if you come to MA you have to quarantine and you can't come from most states - but there is ZERO enforcement of this.
 
2020-10-22 11:35:39 AM  

Godscrack: weddingsinger: Does anywhere have accurate info on the total number of people who have been hospitalized for COVID?

Closest I could find COVID-19 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC

I'm wondering what happened to the Contact Tracing reports. They were supposed to let the public know who, what, where and how people may have contracted it. All were seeing is conflicting information and skewed numbers. They're keeping people in the dark and guessing about it. Order in chaos.


The CDC has been ordered to give up on contact tracing. Data on infections are going to a black hole in HHS never to emerge.
 
2020-10-22 11:40:36 AM  

Geotpf: But if no vaccine/cure comes in three months, six months, a year, two years, and things are still about where they are now, at some point people are going to rebel.


Cool story.

You super smart people were "rebelling" in February.
 
2020-10-22 11:46:08 AM  

dothemath: Geotpf: But if no vaccine/cure comes in three months, six months, a year, two years, and things are still about where they are now, at some point people are going to rebel.

Cool story.

You super smart people were "rebelling" in February.


And you super smart people were calling for a lock down in February, just for a couple of weeks.  Which turned into a couple more.  Then months.  Then things opened a little.  Then they closed a little.  All the while, people were losing savings, businesses, and homes.  But you're still calling for things to be shut down.  You super smart people don't actually care about people, you just want to let everyone know how smart you are.
 
2020-10-22 11:46:32 AM  

Geotpf: You can't lockdown the country forever.  I'm actually surprised this isn't helping Trump and the Republicans at the polls.  At this point, clearly the pro-science crowd is still greater than the pro-open shiat up crowd.  But that won't remain true forever.


It is because with every passing day the chances of someone knowing someone who gets COVID-19 goes up, as do the chances of someone knowing someone who has died from COVID-19. In other words, as the number of cases go up the number of people who are personally affected by this goes up. And nothing like seeing a loved one on an incubator in the ICU or in a casket to get someone to jump over to the "pro-science crowd."
 
2020-10-22 11:49:45 AM  
if you want to reuse that image on social media, leave the attribution and full title bar  intact .
 
2020-10-22 11:57:25 AM  

Mock26: Geotpf: You can't lockdown the country forever.  I'm actually surprised this isn't helping Trump and the Republicans at the polls.  At this point, clearly the pro-science crowd is still greater than the pro-open shiat up crowd.  But that won't remain true forever.

It is because with every passing day the chances of someone knowing someone who gets COVID-19 goes up, as do the chances of someone knowing someone who has died from COVID-19. In other words, as the number of cases go up the number of people who are personally affected by this goes up. And nothing like seeing a loved one on an incubator in the ICU or in a casket to get someone to jump over to the "pro-science crowd."


But the flip side to that is that more and more people see friends and family get it and be perfectly fine.  Remember, most people don't show symptoms or have very mild symptoms.  Very few people with this end up in the hospital or die.
 
2020-10-22 12:06:30 PM  

Jeebus Saves: dothemath: Geotpf: But if no vaccine/cure comes in three months, six months, a year, two years, and things are still about where they are now, at some point people are going to rebel.

Cool story.

You super smart people were "rebelling" in February.

And you super smart people were calling for a lock down in February, just for a couple of weeks.  Which turned into a couple more.  Then months.  Then things opened a little.  Then they closed a little.  All the while, people were losing savings, businesses, and homes.  But you're still calling for things to be shut down.  You super smart people don't actually care about people, you just want to let everyone know how smart you are.


But it was never actually a lockdown, and people treated it as a vacation so that they could flee and spread the virus to the midwest dirt farms they came from.

THERE WAS NO LOCKDOWN.

Bars closed, people whined, went to Costco to buy toilet paper. That's not a lockdown.

We've all had it hammered into us that America is "the land of the free", but no one mentions the responsibility that comes with that freedom.
 
2020-10-22 12:15:23 PM  

Jeebus Saves: Which turned into a couple more.  Then months.


Because trailer park yokels never did what they were supposed to do.

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2020-10-22 12:15:48 PM  

colon_canoe: Thank You Black Jesus!: weddingsinger: North Dakota now has so many cases they are no longer notifying close contacts, only those who test positive and even that is with the help of the friggin' National Guard.

Actual contact tracing is up to individuals now.

EXCEPT we also have a huge problem of people refusing to be tested or ignoring contact tracing so they don't have to miss out on work or school or going out.  Weddings and kids' sports have been huge super spreaders, along with bars and restaurants.

/friend is a supervisor contact tracer for the state.
//she says we are royally boned.

actual quote from my rural NE dwelling father:

"Everything is pretty much open and nobody is wearing masks, but we're not getting complacent."

😑

Hope he's got a nice grave picked out.


he does.  i told him if he gets it, it'll kill him.
 
2020-10-22 12:18:29 PM  

gunther_bumpass: Jeebus Saves: dothemath: Geotpf: But if no vaccine/cure comes in three months, six months, a year, two years, and things are still about where they are now, at some point people are going to rebel.

Cool story.

You super smart people were "rebelling" in February.

And you super smart people were calling for a lock down in February, just for a couple of weeks.  Which turned into a couple more.  Then months.  Then things opened a little.  Then they closed a little.  All the while, people were losing savings, businesses, and homes.  But you're still calling for things to be shut down.  You super smart people don't actually care about people, you just want to let everyone know how smart you are.

But it was never actually a lockdown, and people treated it as a vacation so that they could flee and spread the virus to the midwest dirt farms they came from.

THERE WAS NO LOCKDOWN.

Bars closed, people whined, went to Costco to buy toilet paper. That's not a lockdown.

We've all had it hammered into us that America is "the land of the free", but no one mentions the responsibility that comes with that freedom.


We also did it all ass-backwards. Around here we "locked down" (closed sit-down restaurants and hair salons and shiat, so people just went and hung out at the grocery store and drive-through lines went into the street) with no damn mask order, and closed schools, back in late Spring and early Summer when we had almost no cases.

Now we finally have a mask order, that people are doing their damnedest to ignore because they're assholes who believe the Liar in Chief, schools are open, most stuff's back open at some capacity, but our infection rate is high enough that now is when we should be doing an actual lock-down (which we never did in the first place).

Maximum pain, minimum benefit. WTF.

This is what a complete lack of leadership looks like.
 
2020-10-22 12:25:08 PM  

gunther_bumpass: Jeebus Saves: dothemath: Geotpf: But if no vaccine/cure comes in three months, six months, a year, two years, and things are still about where they are now, at some point people are going to rebel.

Cool story.

You super smart people were "rebelling" in February.

And you super smart people were calling for a lock down in February, just for a couple of weeks.  Which turned into a couple more.  Then months.  Then things opened a little.  Then they closed a little.  All the while, people were losing savings, businesses, and homes.  But you're still calling for things to be shut down.  You super smart people don't actually care about people, you just want to let everyone know how smart you are.

But it was never actually a lockdown, and people treated it as a vacation so that they could flee and spread the virus to the midwest dirt farms they came from.

THERE WAS NO LOCKDOWN.

Bars closed, people whined, went to Costco to buy toilet paper. That's not a lockdown.

We've all had it hammered into us that America is "the land of the free", but no one mentions the responsibility that comes with that freedom.


So wait, if there was no lockdown, why are businesses closing and so many people out of work?  Why were schools closed?  What happened?  And doesn't the government have a responsibility to us?  Don't you think that if a business is shut down by order of the government, that they should be compensated for their lose?  What you want is an authoritarian style, weld people into their homes type of lockdown.  We don't do that here.  Sorry to disappoint you.  People need to get food and medicine.  Or do you want the government to handle that too?
 
2020-10-22 12:28:00 PM  

Geotpf: lindalouwho: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: weddingsinger: Does anywhere have accurate info on the total number of people who have been hospitalized for COVID?

I don't think there's any such thing.

It's been said that one in five people who have it get hospitalized. More reason to be infuriated that it's being downplayed.

That's absolutely not true, unless you are referring to a certain age group.

If you are under 50, the chances of you becoming hospitalized is very low, especially if you don't have a pre-existing condition or were medical personnel treating people without proper PPE.

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Thanks for this.
Here's what I read, and didn't notice it was for Indonesia. My bad.

https://www.who.int/indonesia/news/det​ail/08-03-2020-knowing-the-risk-for-co​vid-19#:~:text=Most%20people%20(about%​2080,are%20at%20greater%20risk.
 
2020-10-22 12:28:37 PM  
I don't understand why Fark does that to some links.
 
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