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2020-10-22 11:06:29 AM  

jso2897: Rozotorical: jso2897: Rozotorical: FlashHarry: We warned you in 2016 that elections have consequences.

We have another election coming up in less than two weeks.

The *only* way to stop the Republican War on Women is to vote democratic. No write-ins, no third-party votes, no staying home because the D candidates aren't perfect.

Vote democrat or enjoy the real-life version of A Handmaid's Tale.

Yeah, the Dems running HIllary really farked us over eh?

Or, perhaps, provided you with the dildo with which you f**ked yourself.

Oh yeah blame the victim. Cause the voter has alllllllll the power in the USA.

I guess if you consider Gavin McGinnis a typical "voter".


You are grasping bud. Dems failed us, historically that election. If you don't hold them to task they are seemingly happy losing to fascists and blaming the voters.  White Nationalist didn't beat Dems, The Dems butt fumbled the election.
 
2020-10-22 11:12:28 AM  

Great_Milenko: karnal: Murder is such a grey area among the Dims

Ask George Floyd.


Also ask Vince Foster.
 
2020-10-22 11:15:11 AM  

jso2897: I'm curious what they think reversing Roe will accomplish.
I guess us Californians could set up abortionplexes at the borders and make back some of the welfare money we pay to the red states every year.


If Roe is overturned, the abortion issue will - at least initially - go back to the states.  And if you want to invest in abortionplexes, the place to do it isn't in California.  There are currently 13 states and one federal district that have legislation on the books to preserve a woman's right to choose in the event that Roe is overturned.  Most of those jurisdictions are in the Northeast and the Pacific Coast.  One of those, however, is in the middle of the country and easily accessible to a large number of red states - Illinois.  Seriously, if you have some money and are looking to invest in a sure-fire opportunity in the post-Roe era, invest in an abortion clinic in Illinois, preferably on the border with Indiana or across the river from Missouri.  And if you can also invest in the pot dispensary next door, you will never have to work again for the rest of your life.
 
2020-10-22 11:28:37 AM  

captainN: Pre meditated murder is premeditated murder..

Would you kill a 3 year old who was conceived in rape? So why is it ok  to kill a viable baby in the third trimester.

Roe v wade is finished and I'm glad.
Once trump get reelected I'm hoping for an executive order that goes right to the supremes


Wtf is this 3rd trimester nonsense that always comes up? Most people want 1st trimester pill abortions. Those 2nd trimester abortions are almost always for a dead fetus or an inviable one, or life threatening condition of the mother. You don't want a baby, you tend to decide that early. 20-24 weeks is max in this country without some crazy mitigating circumstances. This partial birth nonsense is just that: nonsense.

Cousin had a 23 week a 5 day abortion on a trisomy 13 fetus. They knew about it at around 20 weeks and her doctor farked around trying to convince her that every life was sacred even though it would probably die before birth, and even if the baby was born, it's less than a week life and just pane management. He tried to keep her from it till the 24 week window was over. She found a new OBGYN after that. fark that guy and the farmer congress man who said cows push out dead babies why not human women?
 
2020-10-22 11:28:46 AM  

Avigdore: Are you claiming the Biden hasn't lied to America?


Matthew 7:1-5.

Or, from the gospel of Dril,

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2020-10-22 11:34:20 AM  
Imagine refusing to answer a possible employer's questions during a job interview.

Why does Barrett--or for that matter, Kavanaugh--get a pass?
 
2020-10-22 11:36:58 AM  

whidbey: Imagine refusing to answer a possible employer's questions during a job interview.

Why does Barrett--or for that matter, Kavanaugh--get a pass?


Simply put, IOKIYAR.
 
2020-10-22 11:37:46 AM  
Would you kill a 16 year old?

https://www.wbur.org/cognoscenti/2019​/​12/09/carlos-gregorio-hernandez-vasque​z-miles-howard

Policies have consequences. If you support Trump's immigration policies, you are not pro-life.
 
2020-10-22 11:47:51 AM  

chewd: Whenever ive had to debate abortion with a pro-lifer i always ask them what they think the punishment should be for women who have abortions.

They never seem to want to punish the woman, they always want to lock up the doctor and let the woman go free. Which is weird because if you hire a hitman, they dont arrest just the hitman.

Like with most things, conservatives dont seem to have thought it through that far.


Oh dear God I feel sorry for what I am about to type

When you accept that a woman should have no agency and is simply a vessel for bearing children then punishing one makes as much sense as punishing an appliance.

You have to first accept that women are full members of society with the same ability to make ethical, moral and practical decisions before punishing one.
 
2020-10-22 11:57:33 AM  

Avigdore: RasIanI: Avigdore: jso2897: Gee, this sucks. Too bad Biden is an old white man who knows people at corporations and voted wrong in the Senate that one time.
My perfect, unique snowflake vote cannot be bestowed upon some mere, flawed centrist.
Otherwise the People's Utopian Revolution which is just around the corner won't happen.

I'm more concerned with the number of times he's lied to the American people.  Liars like Trump and Biden don't deserve our votes.

I realize some of you care less about your leader lying to you than I do. To each their own.

"Liars like Trump and Biden"

stop your BSAB bulls***.

You know very well that is simply not even remotely true. You are lying. And are disingenuous.

Are you claiming the Biden hasn't lied to America? Lies about NAACP endorsements? Lies about being arrested trying to visit Mandella? Lying about marching in the Civil Rights movement? So much lying about his schooling, grades, scholarship... the plagiarism?  How much lying is too much for you?

Let's not even get started on whether the accusations of sexual misconduct against Biden and Trump should also prevent people from voting for them.

If liars and sexual abusers are your cup of tea, you have ample choices come Nov 3.


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2020-10-22 12:07:05 PM  

GhostOfSavageHenry: This is the future you get when you don't vote. Being denied access to birth control and being put to death for a miscarriage ain't that far off, and this woman sounds like she'd be leading the charge for it. Anyone wanna risk letting another republican putting someone on the supreme court? ever again?


So we'll be able to go back to the time when it was always the woman's fault for not bearing a son and we can then execute the women for that, too, right?

Ugh.  My daughters are not happy about this.

/wonder when women can be considered for political asylum in Canada to escape Gilead the United States.
 
2020-10-22 12:09:28 PM  

Bloody William: Avigdore: Are you claiming the Biden hasn't lied to America?

Matthew 7:1-5.

Or, from the gospel of Dril,

[Fark user image image 725x122]


There's no doubt that one is better than the other.  The truth remains that neither is worthy of voting for.
 
2020-10-22 12:13:19 PM  

captainN: Pre meditated murder is premeditated murder..

Would you kill a 3 year old who was conceived in rape? So why is it ok  to kill a viable baby in the third trimester.

Roe v wade is finished and I'm glad.
Once trump get reelected I'm hoping for an executive order that goes right to the supremes


screw you.
 
2020-10-22 12:26:35 PM  

FlashHarry: We warned you in 2016 that elections have consequences.

We have another election coming up in less than two weeks.

The *only* way to stop the Republican War on Women is to vote democratic. No write-ins, no third-party votes, no staying home because the D candidates aren't perfect.

Vote democrat or enjoy the real-life version of A Handmaid's Tale.


I was going to write a passive aggressive snarky response targeted at Fark independents and Bernie Bros but I'll just say this: Conservative voters judge the Republican party by the best possible representatives they can find at the time(whether or not the accolades given are even true) while progressive voters judge the Democratic party by the worst infractions, failures to be as purely progressive as they demand, and the biggest mistakes of the past they can dig up. Take a guess as to which strategy gets their people elected - and their policies enacted. Go on, guess.

Joe Biden has made some mistakes, so have the Clintons, Chuck Schumer...and Bernie Sanders. No one is pure. Your third party alternative is not the second coming of Jesus.
 
2020-10-22 12:30:03 PM  

Froman: Your third party alternative is not the second coming of Jesus.


It's true.

The Jew who was betrayed by his own people for not playing nice with the bankers ran in the Democratic primary.
 
2020-10-22 12:32:11 PM  
So, uh, we need a term for these self proclaimed liberals that repeat long debunked right wing talking points while always attacking Democrats. "Fark Independent" just isn't accurate enough.
 
2020-10-22 12:33:02 PM  

Zafler: So, uh, we need a term for these self proclaimed liberals that repeat long debunked right wing talking points while always attacking Democrats. "Fark Independent" just isn't accurate enough.


You rose from the dead to pitch McCarthyism?!
 
2020-10-22 12:37:44 PM  
Hey look at that, tacit admission from one of 'em that he's well aware of his idiocy.

Apparently, they thrive on negative attention while their actions are undermining the positions they claim to support. Enjoy your sea lion act.
 
2020-10-22 12:43:32 PM  

Avigdore: RasIanI: Avigdore: jso2897: Gee, this sucks. Too bad Biden is an old white man who knows people at corporations and voted wrong in the Senate that one time.
My perfect, unique snowflake vote cannot be bestowed upon some mere, flawed centrist.
Otherwise the People's Utopian Revolution which is just around the corner won't happen.

I'm more concerned with the number of times he's lied to the American people.  Liars like Trump and Biden don't deserve our votes.

I realize some of you care less about your leader lying to you than I do. To each their own.

"Liars like Trump and Biden"

stop your BSAB bulls***.

You know very well that is simply not even remotely true. You are lying. And are disingenuous.

Are you claiming the Biden hasn't lied to America? Lies about NAACP endorsements? Lies about being arrested trying to visit Mandella? Lying about marching in the Civil Rights movement? So much lying about his schooling, grades, scholarship... the plagiarism?  How much lying is too much for you?

Let's not even get started on whether the accusations of sexual misconduct against Biden and Trump should also prevent people from voting for them.

If liars and sexual abusers are your cup of tea, you have ample choices come Nov 3.


Any lies that Biden may have occasionally let slip pale in comparison to the non-stop deluge of lies, misrepresentations, and and just plain old bullshiat Trump (and the rest of his toadies) spew every single day. fark right off with this whataboutism bullshiat.
 
2020-10-22 12:46:25 PM  
ViolentEastCoastCity:

Any man attracted to that way of life needs therapy.  Red flag.  Run away!

My husband would be sick at the thought. And very bored with me being completely subservient.  And eventually dead when I snap.


aaaaaaand farkied. Thanks for the grin.
 
2020-10-22 12:46:57 PM  

Zafler: So, uh, we need a term for these self proclaimed liberals that repeat long debunked right wing talking points while always attacking Democrats. "Fark Independent" just isn't accurate enough.


I've seen the term "fauxgressives" being bandied about here.

Sick of their farking bullshiat.
 
2020-10-22 12:50:35 PM  

whidbey: Zafler: So, uh, we need a term for these self proclaimed liberals that repeat long debunked right wing talking points while always attacking Democrats. "Fark Independent" just isn't accurate enough.

I've seen the term "fauxgressives" being bandied about here.

Sick of their farking bullshiat.


What would Dr. King suggest you do, since you Ouija him regularly?
 
2020-10-22 1:09:48 PM  
captainN: Pre meditated murder is premeditated murder..

Would you kill a 3 year old who was conceived in rape? So why is it ok  to kill a viable baby in the third trimester.

Roe v wade is finished and I'm glad.
Once trump get reelected I'm hoping for an executive order that goes right to the supremes


What about first trimester abortions?
 
2020-10-22 1:10:22 PM  
captainN: Pre meditated murder is premeditated murder..

Would you kill a 3 year old who was conceived in rape? So why is it ok  to kill a viable baby in the third trimester.

Roe v wade is finished and I'm glad.
Once trump get reelected I'm hoping for an executive order that goes right to the supremes


what about first trimester abortions?
 
2020-10-22 1:14:52 PM  

Avigdore: Bloody William: Avigdore: Are you claiming the Biden hasn't lied to America?

Matthew 7:1-5.

Or, from the gospel of Dril,

[Fark user image image 725x122]

There's no doubt that one is better than the other.  The truth remains that neither is worthy of voting for.


By your standard, no candidate of any party primary (including the parties other than the big two) would be worty of voting for either.

Every politician lies. Every person lies.

The only measure is the sum of their actions, not their words, and how those actions change over time as people grow and develop.
 
2020-10-22 1:17:49 PM  

Conthan: chewd: Whenever ive had to debate abortion with a pro-lifer i always ask them what they think the punishment should be for women who have abortions.

They never seem to want to punish the woman, they always want to lock up the doctor and let the woman go free. Which is weird because if you hire a hitman, they dont arrest just the hitman.

Like with most things, conservatives dont seem to have thought it through that far.

Remember in 2016 when Trump was asked about this, and since he doesn't really have a position on this because it isn't about him, he went through the logic of the question and said that yes the women should be punished?


In both Republican controlled Virginia and Georgia Legislatures, during this past decade, the R's presented bills to require women to report ALL miscarriages to local law enforcement.  The Authority that is must determine whether the woman might have criminally contributed to the expelling.

Why, yes, between 10 & 15% of all pregnancies end in "self induced abortion" (miscarriage).

I'm sure this religious bigot will see her way to a majority opinion on death penalties for "flushing"

/have been saying they was gonna...
 
2020-10-22 1:24:55 PM  

karnal: Murder is such a grey area among the Dims



What the fark did you even say? Speak like a normal person.
 
2020-10-22 1:35:49 PM  
Just so we're clear, this is her response to question 100: "As a sitting judge and as a judicial nominee, it would not be appropriate for me to offer an opinion on abstract legal issues or hypotheticals."
 
2020-10-22 1:45:18 PM  
ACAB
 
2020-10-22 1:47:45 PM  
Life time appointments are still vulnerable to  negotiation.
 
2020-10-22 1:52:13 PM  

captainN: Pre meditated murder is premeditated murder..

Would you kill a 3 year old who was conceived in rape? So why is it ok  to kill a viable baby in the third trimester.


If someone needs an immediate organ donation to live, and you're a match, if you refuse to give it to them are you a murderer?  Should the government have the power to force you to give your extra kidney, or some bone marrow, or a piece of your liver, to someone who needs it?

My guess is that you'd say no to both things.  If you don't, you'd be in the vast, vast majority.

The question, then, is why you think it IS okay to force women to donate the use of their organs to a fetus?  Or why refusing to do so is murder, but not the case above?  Or why you think women deserve fewer rights than a dead body?  After all, we don't even violate the bodies of corpses without the previous consent of the dead person.
 
2020-10-22 1:55:35 PM  
Miscarriages are murder!

Wheeeeee!
 
2020-10-22 1:57:40 PM  

Zafler: So, uh, we need a term for these self proclaimed liberals that repeat long debunked right wing talking points while always attacking Democrats. "Fark Independent" just isn't accurate enough.


Unhinged? Insane? Moles for the GOP? Narcissistic and delusional?

I'm picturing white people with dreads and face piercings, living out of vans and on a normal year just going from festival to festival while fancying themselves the representatives of the poor.
 
2020-10-22 2:00:27 PM  

Froman: Zafler: So, uh, we need a term for these self proclaimed liberals that repeat long debunked right wing talking points while always attacking Democrats. "Fark Independent" just isn't accurate enough.

Unhinged? Insane? Moles for the GOP? Narcissistic and delusional?

I'm picturing white people with dreads and face piercings, living out of vans and on a normal year just going from festival to festival while fancying themselves the representatives of the poor.


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I'm pretty sure this is the look you're going for.
 
2020-10-22 2:09:28 PM  

captainN: Pre meditated murder is premeditated murder..

Would you kill a 3 year old who was conceived in rape? So why is it ok  to kill a viable baby in the third trimester.


Because (a) it's not a baby, and (b) the mother would die.   Why do you think it's OK to kill a person who's lived for decades in order to bring a wanted pregnancy to term?

Nobody - that is - ABSOLUTELY NOBODY carries an unwanted birth to the third trimester.   It simply doesn't happen.

You're basing your entire argument on a fiction.   Please educate yourself before you post again.
 
2020-10-22 2:12:59 PM  

qorkfiend: hubiestubert: ...and these are the stakes folks.

No. These were the stakes, in 2016 and 2018.


Two of the most conservative SCOTUS judges are presently 70 & 72 years old.

The elder of the two does not appear to be in the best of health. His wife is also a batshiat Qanon level. political lobbyist.
 
2020-10-22 3:04:46 PM  
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2020-10-22 3:58:25 PM  

Jts853: "Off-shore abortion rigs" ~ My next million dollar idea.


It's the billing and taxes that'll screw you.
 
2020-10-22 4:31:45 PM  

Discordulator: Every person lies.


Not in the course of their job they don't.
 
2020-10-22 4:50:07 PM  

Avigdore: Discordulator: Every person lies.

Not in the course of their job they don't.


Especially in the course of their job.

"Have a nice day"
"I am not a crook"
"My email was hacked"

Not just politicians.
 
2020-10-22 5:11:34 PM  

Discordulator: Avigdore: Discordulator: Every person lies.

Not in the course of their job they don't.

Especially in the course of their job.

"Have a nice day"
"I am not a crook"
"My email was hacked"

Not just politicians.


Have a nice day isn't a lie...'I hope you have a nice day' might be.
The others aren't actions of 'everyone'...they're examples of people not worth voting for.
 
2020-10-22 5:15:37 PM  

hugram: GhostOfSavageHenry: This is the future you get when you don't vote. Being denied access to birth control and being put to death for a miscarriage ain't that far off, and this woman sounds like she'd be leading the charge for it. Anyone wanna risk letting another republican putting someone on the supreme court? ever again?

Many left-leaning and middle of road women from key battle states didn't vote for Hillary because reasons and such... even though the next president (fark you McConnell) was going to pick a SCOTUS to replace Scalia, who died in Feb of 2016.  That alone should have been enough of a reason for anyone that cares about women's choice to vote for Hillary in 2016, since there were 8 or 9 months of a heads-up that a new judge will be nominated by the next POTUS.  As it is turning out, Trump is going to replace three judges, all with conservatives views.

In the near future, if any of these 2016 women that didn't vote for Hillary need an abortion, they might be SOL.


I know I intend to keep track of her rulings and at every opportunity remind people how she's dragging women and minorities back, and what the woman she replaced did to progress women and minority rights. If any good can come out of this awful appointment it will be to use it to remind people why it's so important to vote, not just in the big elections, but every last election that takes place from your community to the national level.
 
2020-10-22 5:18:54 PM  

captainN: Pre meditated murder is premeditated murder..

Would you kill a 3 year old who was conceived in rape? So why is it ok  to kill a viable baby in the third trimester.

Roe v wade is finished and I'm glad.
Once trump get reelected I'm hoping for an executive order that goes right to the supremes


FOAD
 
2020-10-22 6:19:34 PM  

Avigdore: Discordulator: Avigdore: Discordulator: Every person lies.

Not in the course of their job they don't.

Especially in the course of their job.

"Have a nice day"
"I am not a crook"
"My email was hacked"

Not just politicians.

Have a nice day isn't a lie...'I hope you have a nice day' might be.
The others aren't actions of 'everyone'...they're examples of people not worth voting for.


They are a subset of everyone.

And if you think "have a nice day" isn't a work related lie then you have never worked front line customer service.
 
2020-10-22 6:59:42 PM  

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ilyseh: This happened: @SenWhitehouse followed up in writing with Amy Coney Barrett (SOP) and asked whether the Constitution allows for abortion to be a crime punishable by death and she declined to answer. !!!!! https://t.co/L2T8tMl4uf


Well more people should've voted for Hillary.
 
2020-10-22 7:04:30 PM  

jimmydageek: ViolentEastCoastCity:

Any man attracted to that way of life needs therapy.  Red flag.  Run away!

My husband would be sick at the thought. And very bored with me being completely subservient.  And eventually dead when I snap.

aaaaaaand farkied. Thanks for the grin.


Happy to help.  We all need some lulz these days.
 
2020-10-22 7:35:18 PM  

dababler: Well more people should've voted for Hillary.


Unfortunately a bunch of people were held down and physically restrained from voting for Hillary because she didn't campaign enough in the upper midwest and wasn't inspiring or something. At least that's what I've been told.
 
2020-10-22 7:52:27 PM  

Kattungali: captainN: Pre meditated murder is premeditated murder..

Would you kill a 3 year old who was conceived in rape? So why is it ok  to kill a viable baby in the third trimester.

Because (a) it's not a baby, and (b) the mother would die.   Why do you think it's OK to kill a person who's lived for decades in order to bring a wanted pregnancy to term?

Nobody - that is - ABSOLUTELY NOBODY carries an unwanted birth to the third trimester.   It simply doesn't happen.

You're basing your entire argument on a fiction.   Please educate yourself before you post again.


That isn't true..

Studies have show that most third trimester abortions don't have some kind of horrible anomaly
 
2020-10-22 8:18:49 PM  

captainN: Kattungali: captainN: Pre meditated murder is premeditated murder..

Would you kill a 3 year old who was conceived in rape? So why is it ok  to kill a viable baby in the third trimester.

Because (a) it's not a baby, and (b) the mother would die.   Why do you think it's OK to kill a person who's lived for decades in order to bring a wanted pregnancy to term?

Nobody - that is - ABSOLUTELY NOBODY carries an unwanted birth to the third trimester.   It simply doesn't happen.

You're basing your entire argument on a fiction.   Please educate yourself before you post again.

That isn't true..

Studies have show that most third trimester abortions don't have some kind of horrible anomaly


The rest are when the woman is experiencing serious complications that may threaten her life and are likely to make the pregnancy non-viable.

But you guys just think of women as incubators so that wouldn't matter to you.
 
2020-10-22 10:57:27 PM  

FlashHarry: dababler: Well more people should've voted for Hillary.

Unfortunately a bunch of people were held down and physically restrained from voting for Hillary because she didn't campaign enough in the upper midwest and wasn't inspiring or something. At least that's what I've been told.


Or, she was a shiat candidate who was handed the nomination in a quid pro quo after she singlehandedly saved a cash-strapped DNC with a "cash injection" and it wasn't until after breezing past a rigged primary learned the hard way how unlikeable she truly is.

But, no, Russia, Comey, and the Bernie Bros all conspiring against her makes more sense, right?
 
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