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2020-10-21 6:01:02 PM  
That year is 2023
 
2020-10-21 6:22:02 PM  
Has anyone in the Trump administration had their grubby paws near it?
 
2020-10-21 9:07:24 PM  
I will get mine one month AFTER Ivanka and Jared, Junior and Eric, and the entire Congress get theirs, just to see how safe and effective it is.
 
2020-10-21 9:11:25 PM  
TFA specifies vulnerable population. It doesn't really refine the definition. First round goes to medical and military personnel. Then first responders, then the ambiguous "necessary workers", then high comorbidity, then...... The progression ends at healthy young people. They get vaccinated last around the end of 2021/ early 2022.

By the end of the year (assuming a fully vetted vaccine)? Not forking happening.
 
2020-10-21 9:12:03 PM  
for all vulnerable Americans

In other news, new standards have determined that the U.S. has 84 vulnerable Americans.
 
2020-10-21 9:13:24 PM  
"The United States is likely to have enough safe and effective COVID-19 vaccines available to inoculate the most vulnerable Americans by the end of 2020, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said on Wednesday."

Starting your article out with any quote from a Trump administration member will instantly fill you with doubt.
 
2020-10-21 9:16:35 PM  
Of course they will. Considering that number drops a little every day. As those people die in the ICU.
So, yeah we will have enough for the one's that we didn't already kill off.
Duh
 
2020-10-21 9:17:02 PM  

LeoffDaGrate: Starting your article out with any quote from a Trump administration member will instantly fill you with doubt.


Give it a few minutes and Trump will tweet out something to contradict it.
 
2020-10-21 9:17:12 PM  

LeoffDaGrate: "The United States is likely to have enough safe and effective COVID-19 vaccines available to inoculate the most vulnerable Americans by the end of 2020, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said on Wednesday."

Starting your article out with any quote from a Trump administration member will instantly fill you with doubt.


Yep. If you believe that, I have a bridge for sale.
 
2020-10-21 9:19:31 PM  
Not wishful thinking, just blowing smoke up our asses. This is Alex Azar blowing smoke up our asses just before the election to keep the boss happy.
 
2020-10-21 9:19:38 PM  

waxbeans: Of course they will. Considering that number drops a little every day. As those people die in the ICU.
So, yeah we will have enough for the one's that we didn't already kill off.
Duh


Killing people fast enough that the vaccine supply meets your needs is A strategy I guess.

/Have you farkied as non-linear thinker.
//Don't remember why.
///It fits 👍
 
2020-10-21 9:23:52 PM  
Horseshiat.
 
2020-10-21 9:26:02 PM  

MarkFark: I will get mine one month AFTER Ivanka and Jared, Junior and Eric, and the entire Congress get theirs, just to see how safe and effective it is.


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2020-10-21 9:27:10 PM  
Yeah, fark no.  I will wait until there are fully tested vaccines available.  Given that I have a strong history of "rare" reactions to various medications, I'd rather not risk it with a brand new vaccine.

Has an answer been found for how long the "immunity" actually lasts?  There have been a couple of confirmed reports of people who had COVID back in March/April and were reinfected in Aug/Sept.
 
2020-10-21 9:29:11 PM  

SpaceyCat: Yeah, fark no.  I will wait until there are fully tested vaccines available.  Given that I have a strong history of "rare" reactions to various medications, I'd rather not risk it with a brand new vaccine.

Has an answer been found for how long the "immunity" actually lasts?  There have been a couple of confirmed reports of people who had COVID back in March/April and were reinfected in Aug/Sept.


This is the one time I'm gonna say "I'd rather catch the X ('Rona) than deal with a unproven, untested vaccine."
 
2020-10-21 9:31:57 PM  
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2020-10-21 9:35:06 PM  
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2020-10-21 9:36:17 PM  

baronbloodbath: This is the one time I'm gonna say "I'd rather catch the X ('Rona) than deal with a unproven, untested vaccine."


For me, 'Rona would be a less than easy or quick death considering it targets pulmonary function and my nominal rate is less than 100%.  I'll just keep doing what I have been doing - avoiding as many people as possible, wearing masks, washing hands, sanitizing stuff I have to touch, and generally telling people to keep the fark away from me.
 
2020-10-21 9:37:32 PM  
End of which year? The article can't even get it right.

The United States is likely to have enough safe and effective COVID-19 vaccines available to inoculate the most vulnerable Americans by the end of 2020, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said on Wednesday...

...Azar said he expects all seniors, healthcare workers, and first responders will be able to receive a vaccine as soon as January, with the rest of the American public able to get a vaccine by April.
 
2020-10-21 9:39:48 PM  

SpaceyCat: and generally telling people to keep the fark away from me.


It sucks that you have to do that
 
2020-10-21 9:39:50 PM  
I'm a little less concerned with how many doses there will be and more concerned with whether it works.

To have hundreds of millions of working doses by years end, we'd have to have a proven vaccine by now and ... we don't.
 
2020-10-21 9:40:32 PM  
And a chicken in every pot.
 
2020-10-21 9:40:41 PM  
Sadly, this here is a WORLDWIDE pandemic. Unless everyone around the globe gets a handle on this thing, we'll still be dealing with it for a long time to come.
 
2020-10-21 9:40:48 PM  

johnny_vegas: It sucks that you have to do that


Boss said I couldn't use the cattle prod...
 
2020-10-21 9:41:55 PM  
Wait until people are told it's the over 60 that get the vaccine first.
 
2020-10-21 9:46:37 PM  

SpaceyCat: Yeah, fark no.  I will wait until there are fully tested vaccines available.  Given that I have a strong history of "rare" reactions to various medications, I'd rather not risk it with a brand new vaccine.

Has an answer been found for how long the "immunity" actually lasts?  There have been a couple of confirmed reports of people who had COVID back in March/April and were reinfected in Aug/Sept.


I believe some of that is from people who get an exceptionally mild or symptom-free case the first time; the body decides it's a false alarm and doesn't develop full immunity.
 
2020-10-21 9:48:59 PM  
As Senator Harris said: I will take it if reputable public health experts say I should take it. I will not take it if Donald Trump and Alex Azar say I should take it.

And fark Mike Pence for essentially equating that statement with being anti-vax.
 
2020-10-21 9:50:25 PM  

Russ1642: Wait until people are told it's the over 60 that get the vaccine first.


The Republican Governor of Maryland said in Phase 1 judges will get it, but not all the teachers he is forcing to go back to school or old people. Gotta protect those Trump judges huh?  Much more important than teachers. Over 65's, teachers, bus drivers, essential workers, have to wait until Phase 2. Everybody else, phase 3, if you're lucky. Murderers and pedophiles in prison are gonna get it before 95-year-old grandma. That should go over well.

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2020-10-21 9:51:53 PM  

Sim Tree: I believe some of that is from people who get an exceptionally mild or symptom-free case the first time; the body decides it's a false alarm and doesn't develop full immunity.


If they were confirmed to have COVID from testing and they developed anitbodies, how would that work?
 
2020-10-21 9:55:38 PM  
Will this one potentially turn me into a monkey like the British vaccine?

Asking for a comrade.
 
2020-10-21 9:57:04 PM  

SpaceyCat: Yeah, fark no.  I will wait until there are fully tested vaccines available.  Given that I have a strong history of "rare" reactions to various medications, I'd rather not risk it with a brand new vaccine.

Has an answer been found for how long the "immunity" actually lasts?  There have been a couple of confirmed reports of people who had COVID back in March/April and were reinfected in Aug/Sept.


You can count the confirmed reinfections on one hand, out of millions of cases worldwide. And last I heard, there was just one case where the reinfection was severe. Perfection is too much to ask, but there's still strong hope for herd immunity.
 
2020-10-21 9:58:50 PM  
By years end...of 2040
 
2020-10-21 10:27:31 PM  

SpaceyCat: baronbloodbath: This is the one time I'm gonna say "I'd rather catch the X ('Rona) than deal with a unproven, untested vaccine."

For me, 'Rona would be a less than easy or quick death considering it targets pulmonary function and my nominal rate is less than 100%.  I'll just keep doing what I have been doing - avoiding as many people as possible, wearing masks, washing hands, sanitizing stuff I have to touch, and generally telling people to keep the fark away from me.


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2020-10-21 10:29:24 PM  
Is there a single current or former member of the Trumpolini misadministration that should *not* go to jail for lying under oath?
 
2020-10-21 10:30:52 PM  

ParadoxDice: Sadly, this here is a WORLDWIDE pandemic. Unless everyone around the globe gets a handle on this thing, we'll still be dealing with it for a long time to come.


Yeah, but me being generally antisocial.....I'm kinda ok with not interacting with people I don't know. Granted, that shuts down the idea of increasing people I know but I'm ok with that for a year or so.
 
2020-10-21 10:32:38 PM  

Walker: Russ1642: Wait until people are told it's the over 60 that get the vaccine first.

The Republican Governor of Maryland said in Phase 1 judges will get it, but not all the teachers he is forcing to go back to school or old people. Gotta protect those Trump judges huh?  Much more important than teachers. Over 65's, teachers, bus drivers, essential workers, have to wait until Phase 2. Everybody else, phase 3, if you're lucky. Murderers and pedophiles in prison are gonna get it before 95-year-old grandma. That should go over well.

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https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/hea​lth/coronavirus/maryland-draft-coronav​irus-plan-vaccine/65-a4adfcb0-8144-45d​d-9c8d-de3cf0e2a9e0


Health care and military gets vaccine first. It's obvious. National security.
 
2020-10-21 10:35:08 PM  
Face palm tag?

I'll always remember 2020 as the year liberals actively hoped for more death and sickness and met every slight glimpse of good news with open skepticism......because they wanted a president to look bad.
 
2020-10-21 10:36:49 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: Face palm tag?

I'll always remember 2020 as the year liberals actively hoped for more death and sickness and met every slight glimpse of good news with open skepticism......because they wanted a president to look bad.


Yes,  that's the tragedy of 2020.

/ It's not "good news" when it's made up
 
2020-10-21 10:57:55 PM  

jsnbase: GrizzlyPouch: Face palm tag?

I'll always remember 2020 as the year liberals actively hoped for more death and sickness and met every slight glimpse of good news with open skepticism......because they wanted a president to look bad.

Yes,  that's the tragedy of 2020.

/ It's not "good news" when it's made up


Yeah.  Because making up a story (that the 2 private companies involved could easily refute) abt a very small number of vaccines being ready after the election makes total sense.  I mean if they're lying why not go with everybody will have a vaccine by Friday.

Even if the Trump admin is making it up responding to this type of story with "pfft, yeah right" is a dick move
 
2020-10-21 11:04:01 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: jsnbase: GrizzlyPouch: Face palm tag?

I'll always remember 2020 as the year liberals actively hoped for more death and sickness and met every slight glimpse of good news with open skepticism......because they wanted a president to look bad.

Yes,  that's the tragedy of 2020.

/ It's not "good news" when it's made up

Yeah.  Because making up a story (that the 2 private companies involved could easily refute) abt a very small number of vaccines being ready after the election makes total sense.  I mean if they're lying why not go with everybody will have a vaccine by Friday.

Even if the Trump admin is making it up responding to this type of story with "pfft, yeah right" is a dick move


Gonna have to agree to disagree here, champ.
 
2020-10-21 11:16:45 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: Even if the Trump admin is making it up responding to this type of story with "pfft, yeah right" is a dick move


Hey - we said it would be nice if it was true.
It's not our fault that the Trump administration lies so much that nothing they say can be taken at face value.
Nor that this is an improbable claim.
One doesn't have to be childishly naive  to not be a dick.
 
2020-10-21 11:32:44 PM  

ParadoxDice: Sadly, this here is a WORLDWIDE pandemic. Unless everyone around the globe gets a handle on this thing, we'll still be dealing with it for a long time to come.


Sadly, much of the globe is doing far better than the US and it may well end up being 'Murica (because of its stubborn freedumb lovers) that keeps the rest of the world from beating corona and moving on (particularly if vaccines prove ineffective).  The rest of the globe is indeed thinking as you are, we're just looking at the US as the idiot who can't keep up in class.
 
2020-10-21 11:34:51 PM  
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2020-10-21 11:42:44 PM  
kyuzokai:

Much of the globe, like Europe?  Where according to the WHO they've had 8 million+ cases and 250,000+ deaths.

Oh and their case counts there are currently on the rise at a far faster rate than the US.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-sour​c​e/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20201​020-weekly-epi-update-10.pdf

I guess that's Trump's fault too?
 
2020-10-21 11:46:17 PM  
kyuzokai:

One more thing.  If vaccines are ineffective against this virus, how do you suppose we could get it to just disappear?

In the entire history of humanity and disease, we've managed to eradicate exactly one virus.....and that was with a vaccine.

You think Trump simply not being in office will make it magically disappear?
 
2020-10-21 11:50:32 PM  
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2020-10-21 11:53:16 PM  

whitroth: Is there a single current or former member of the T***polini misadministration that should *not* go to jail for lying under oath?


I was skeptical about the way they rammed Mattis through. But he seems to have been the last honorable man in the Flim Flam Führer's cabinet.
 
2020-10-21 11:57:48 PM  

kyuzokai: ParadoxDice: Sadly, this here is a WORLDWIDE pandemic. Unless everyone around the globe gets a handle on this thing, we'll still be dealing with it for a long time to come.

Sadly, much of the globe is doing far better than the US and it may well end up being 'Murica (because of its stubborn freedumb lovers) that keeps the rest of the world from beating corona and moving on (particularly if vaccines prove ineffective).  The rest of the globe is indeed thinking as you are, we're just looking at the US as the idiot who can't keep up in class.


Btw, don't take my word for it. Check out Vox's rundown here of the shiat storm under way across Europe with exponential growth, supposed government failures and cities and states opposing federal lock down measures:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.​c​om/platform/amp/21514530/europe-covid-​second-wave-update

But yeah. Trump is the only guy on the planet who can't figure it out.
 
2020-10-21 11:59:32 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: kyuzokai:

Much of the globe, like Europe?  Where according to the WHO they've had 8 million+ cases and 250,000+ deaths.

Oh and their case counts there are currently on the rise at a far faster rate than the US.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-sourc​e/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20201​020-weekly-epi-update-10.pdf

I guess that's Trump's fault too?


GrizzlyPouch: kyuzokai:

One more thing.  If vaccines are ineffective against this virus, how do you suppose we could get it to just disappear?

In the entire history of humanity and disease, we've managed to eradicate exactly one virus.....and that was with a vaccine.

You think Trump simply not being in office will make it magically disappear?


Goodness, aren't you defensive?  First, read my post again with some objectivity.  I didn't invoke Trump in the slightest, you did. Second, I suggested that American's reluctance to wear masks, socially distance, and otherwise take normal safety measures would keep Corona in rotation in the event that vaccines don't work (I didn't suggest they NEVER work, merely that they may be ineffective in this case. That's what "If" means, as in, it's possible. We still don't really know if people can be fully "immune". Science requires testing, ya know?).  Third, related to both, if the vaccine is ineffective, you get it to disappear by eliminating transmission pathways: you know, social distancing, wearing masks, etc. Fourth, whataboutism doesnt make the GLOBAL opinion of the US response any less valid. I live in Japan, and we're pretty solidly kicking its ass. From what I read (outside of the US media) much of the globe thinks that the US has farked this up royally, through pure pig-headedness.  Most other countries have at least TRIED to get a handle on it (except maybe Sweden).
 
2020-10-22 12:13:06 AM  
The United States is likely to have enough safe and effective
COVID-19 vaccines available to inoculate the most vulnerable
Americans by the end of 2020, Health and Human Services
Secretary Alex Azar said on Wednesday.


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