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(The Atlantic)   The key to battling COVID-19 could lie in: A. Wearing masks B. social distancing or C. The Third Amendment?   (theatlantic.com) divider line
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2020-10-21 11:18:40 AM  
The problem is that the majority of Americans only know the first two amendments, and even then they can't quote them accurately.
 
2020-10-21 12:31:05 PM  
That's the one about not sleeping with your neighbor's wife, right?
 
2020-10-21 1:24:49 PM  
That's the one where Smokey *IS* The Bandit!
 
2020-10-21 1:59:57 PM  
I wonder how many people were whipping out their guns before "Third" registered in thier brain.
 
2020-10-21 6:25:35 PM  

PainInTheASP: That's the one about not sleeping with your neighbor's wife, right?


Thou shalt not covid thy neighbor's ass.
 
2020-10-21 6:26:55 PM  
It's a major stretch to go from the third amendment to anything about COVID-19. I guess you could say you don't want soldiers in civilian hospitals. Big deal.
 
2020-10-21 6:29:08 PM  
If you need 1000 words to describe what your Constitution might have intended, you need an update to that constitution.
 
2020-10-21 6:29:29 PM  

Galileo's Daughter: The problem is that the majority of Americans only know the first two amendments, and even then they can't quote them accurately.


There's a third amendment?
 
2020-10-21 6:30:12 PM  
Well that was a bunch of bullsh*t and wishful thinking. No way our supreme court makes that rather tortuous interpretation.
 
2020-10-21 6:30:23 PM  
Not valid. That one was on the tablet Moses dropped.
 
2020-10-21 6:32:33 PM  

Galileo's Daughter: The problem is that the majority of Americans only know the first two amendments, and even then they can't quote them accurately.


What are you talking about? I have my bear arms hanging up in the living room.

/Yes I know I stole this joke from a TV show
 
2020-10-21 6:32:44 PM  
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2020-10-21 6:33:40 PM  

whatshisname: If you need 1000 words to describe what your Constitution might have intended, you need an update to that constitution.


Or you have a really poorly thought out proposed interpretation.
 
2020-10-21 6:33:54 PM  

Courtney Cox-Zucker: PainInTheASP: That's the one about not sleeping with your neighbor's wife, right?

Thou shalt not covid thy neighbor's ass.


Only when you hold the door open for them. You know, to be polite and all.
 
2020-10-21 6:34:05 PM  

Dead on the River: Not valid. That one was on the tablet Moses dropped.


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2020-10-21 6:34:56 PM  
Ok. This is well beyond my ken but it appears the 3A prohibition of quartering was based in part of fear of smallpox from quartering soldiers.

/Something I did not know previously.
//So... neat!

Ergo it may legally follow that a right to be free from a plague is a Constitutional right to liberty.

Which may play a factor in future SCOTUS cases involving competing rights.

Sounds swell until I look at the current SCOTUS and nominee.
 
2020-10-21 6:35:47 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: That's the one where Smokey *IS* The Bandit!


Spoilers!!

>.<
 
2020-10-21 6:35:51 PM  
The article is indeed interesting. Fine job!
 
2020-10-21 6:36:27 PM  

Russ1642: It's a major stretch to go from the third amendment to anything about COVID-19. I guess you could say you don't want soldiers in civilian hospitals. Big deal.


yea I scratched thru all of that trying to find a salient point and couldn't. You summed it up well.

The story about the people in Philly not wanting the soldiers in there houses wouldn't apply either.  People seem to want covid now to prove it isn't a big deal....or something
 
2020-10-21 6:36:34 PM  
Remember the Sabbath Day and keep it holy?
Stay home,
 
2020-10-21 6:38:44 PM  

Hyjamon: Russ1642: It's a major stretch to go from the third amendment to anything about COVID-19. I guess you could say you don't want soldiers in civilian hospitals. Big deal.

yea I scratched thru all of that trying to find a salient point and couldn't. You summed it up well.

The story about the people in Philly not wanting the soldiers in their houses wouldn't apply either.  People seem to want covid now to prove it isn't a big deal....or something


I wonder if I could sell Pro-Plague bumper stickers and merch to the covidiots.
 
2020-10-21 6:38:45 PM  
One man complained that soldiers had whipped his children, killed his animals, and deprived "his wife of her Bed by plasing in one of their party whome they said was sick."


Does anyone have any idea what the hell this means?
 
2020-10-21 6:39:04 PM  
Just because the self-described originalists and strict constructionists on the Court subscribe to tortured interpretations of the Constitution doesn't meant they'd countenance that particular tortured interpretation.
 
2020-10-21 6:39:11 PM  
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2020-10-21 6:40:26 PM  
BUT IT MEAN'S NOTHING WITH OUT THE SECOND
 
2020-10-21 6:42:26 PM  

jst3p: One man complained that soldiers had whipped his children, killed his animals, and deprived "his wife of her Bed by plasing in one of their party whome they said was sick."


Does anyone have any idea what the hell this means?


Wife had a separate bed, a sick soldier used it.
 
2020-10-21 6:43:51 PM  
So this happened today: Texas overtook California for most total cases. One might think I'm happy, since I'm a Californian, but I've got relatives without health insurance in Texas.
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// This is an intermediate count for today, though, so they may swap places by the end of the day.
 
2020-10-21 6:44:00 PM  

jst3p: One man complained that soldiers had whipped his children, killed his animals, and deprived "his wife of her Bed by plasing in one of their party whome they said was sick."


Does anyone have any idea what the hell this means?


They kicked the wife out of her bed and placed a sick soldier in it. Oh, and they beat his children and ate his livestock.
 
2020-10-21 6:44:24 PM  

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Get out of my head
 
2020-10-21 6:44:27 PM  
Other countries don't have the third amendment and while it's not perfect they're riding it out far better than we are.

Who the hell thinks this will improve anything?

Say some old lady is walking up to me without a mask on the job, do I get to hold my hand out and go "T H I R D  A M E N D M E N T" and she explodes into dust?

Like I get what they're going for but the constitution isn't gonna stop Jimbo from thinking it's all a big scam because he watches too much YouTube and picks up the CIA in this dental fillings.
 
2020-10-21 6:45:10 PM  
It didn't work 5 years ago when a bunch of cops commandeered an occupied house so they could spy on their neighbors. The 3rd amendment is pretty useless.
 
2020-10-21 6:45:59 PM  

Alwysadydrmr: jst3p: One man complained that soldiers had whipped his children, killed his animals, and deprived "his wife of her Bed by plasing in one of their party whome they said was sick."


Does anyone have any idea what the hell this means?

Wife had a separate bed, a sick soldier used it.


Oh, so it is just a misspelling of "placing"?
 
2020-10-21 6:47:41 PM  
Or, you could just invoke common farking sense.
 
2020-10-21 6:48:25 PM  

RainDawg: Well that was a bunch of bullsh*t and wishful thinking. No way our supreme court makes that rather tortuous interpretation.


Especially considering they rejected the argument about the police taking up someone's house.  How the hell does one go about booting the cops when they (police) are trespassing?
 
2020-10-21 6:55:04 PM  
It should be understood as a basic responsibility of any government  of, for and by the people.

If such a government doesn't have the right and responsibility to take actions to protect citizens from war and pestilence, then what good is it?
 
2020-10-21 6:55:26 PM  
A stretch so long, even Mr. Fantastic would be envious.

Look, there a difference between "I have an interesting theory" and this waste if bits.
 
2020-10-21 6:58:27 PM  
Originalists: "We must interpret the Constitution according to the way its writers thought at the time."

"Well, OK, then, it turns out the reason the Third Amendment exists is folks didn't want soldiers giving the smallpox in their homes. So can we please get some decent protections for COVID?"

Originalists: "Well, asckshyually..."
 
2020-10-21 7:00:23 PM  

Alebak: Other countries don't have the third amendment and while it's not perfect they're riding it out far better than we are.

Who the hell thinks this will improve anything?

Say some old lady is walking up to me without a mask on the job, do I get to hold my hand out and go "T H I R D  A M E N D M E N T" and she explodes into dust?

Like I get what they're going for but the constitution isn't gonna stop Jimbo from thinking it's all a big scam because he watches too much YouTube and picks up the CIA in this dental fillings.


The Bill if Rights aren't prohibitions on the People. They're prohibitions for the gubbmint. It's not like I can sue another person for violating my First Amendment rights.
 
2020-10-21 7:02:50 PM  

whatshisname: If you need 1000 words to describe what your Constitution might have intended, you need an update to that constitution.


No one needs 1000 words to explain the meaning of the Third Amendment.

Nonetheless, American lawyers could find creative ways to interpret India's constitution. Nothing is fool-proof when fools actually try to outdo each other.
 
2020-10-21 7:03:27 PM  
This is kind of silly. You don't need a 3rd amendment justification to do basic public health. The CDC already has the powers it needs to accomplish what it needs to do, the problem is Trump has absconded his responsibility to the American people and not allowed them to do their job. A nationwide stay at home order COULD be ordered, but has not. The nations pharma companies and manufacturing capability COULD be ordered to be used for covid drugs, but has not. I'm not sure these ideas are what is needed in order to combat the virus, at this point leaving it up to the states has worked in some cases (CA, OH) and not so much in others (FL, etc). A nationwide stay at home order could give cover to craven GOP governers who refuse to issue a state one and thus save their people but if the people in Dumbass, MS want to die gasping for breath I guess let them.
 
2020-10-21 7:07:46 PM  
Is the third one the one about waiting a half hour before you go swimming?
 
2020-10-21 7:12:09 PM  

jst3p: Alwysadydrmr: jst3p: One man complained that soldiers had whipped his children, killed his animals, and deprived "his wife of her Bed by plasing in one of their party whome they said was sick."


Does anyone have any idea what the hell this means?

Wife had a separate bed, a sick soldier used it.

Oh, so it is just a misspelling of "placing"?


Misspelling?

GOE AWAY, foolisch 21st Century Man!
 
2020-10-21 7:15:25 PM  

quatchi: Ok. This is well beyond my ken but it appears the 3A prohibition of quartering was based in part of fear of smallpox from quartering soldiers.

/Something I did not know previously.
//So... neat!

Ergo it may legally follow that a right to be free from a plague is a Constitutional right to liberty.

Which may play a factor in future SCOTUS cases involving competing rights.

Sounds swell until I look at the current SCOTUS and nominee.


Contagious disease had nothing to do with the Third Amendment. Pre-Revolution, the British Army would put their soldiers up in civilians' homes. There was nothing the civilians could do about it. And they had to feed them. It was not only a violation of the privacy of the home, but also a financial burden.
 
2020-10-21 7:18:05 PM  

mofa: So this happened today: Texas overtook California for most total cases. One might think I'm happy, since I'm a Californian, but I've got relatives without health insurance in Texas.
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// This is an intermediate count for today, though, so they may swap places by the end of the day.


Trust me, Florida eclipses them all. There are at least 100k infections we're not counting down here because DeDumbass wants to look pretty for Mango Moron on picture day. We're fully opened up, masks are pretty much optional anywhere. Business establishments have given up trying to enforce any distancing or mask usage. Schools have been financially gutted to comply with both state lack-of sense and actual common sense mitigations and they're about to throw in the towel and give up too. 

I won't trust the numbers out of Florida, ever.

They'll be lining the streets with refrigerated trucks by December and saying it's always been like this, as every medical professional walks off the job in fear and disgust.
 
2020-10-21 7:23:01 PM  
Somebody got paid to write this dribble. That's where the real story is
 
2020-10-21 7:23:39 PM  

mofa: So this happened today: Texas overtook California for most total cases. One might think I'm happy, since I'm a Californian, but I've got relatives without health insurance in Texas.
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// This is an intermediate count for today, though, so they may swap places by the end of the day.


Looks like Florida has it whipped!
 
2020-10-21 7:23:56 PM  
 
2020-10-21 7:31:26 PM  
Doesn't matter. It could state it in clear text and the new SCOTUS would strike it down.
 
2020-10-21 7:35:31 PM  
I am now convinced that the third amendment now solely exist for legal scholars to test their ability to perform mental gymnastics in an attempt to make it relevant to the modern day.
 
2020-10-22 8:56:03 AM  
The last time people massively embraced the 3rd amendment was during the Civil War.  They joined the opposite side when one side wanted room and board.  They burned down houses and farms when denied.   That or they just or just seized it all.   That pushed my ignorant formerly Amish ancestors to join the South.  So, good luck with using the 3rd in any constructive way.   One group will say it means soldiers can take it (due to an emergency and the law allows it) while others say they can't  (time of peace or illegal).
 
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