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2020-10-21 10:03:12 AM  
I have a Mission-branded cooling towel and it's FAR thicker than their neck gaiters. I can't even believe neck gaiters got popular in the first place. Maybe my nose isn't ramp-shaped enough, but the MF things never stay on my face for more than 30 seconds. I've tried 10+ designs since Covid started and I keep coming back to either N95 for max effectiveness or plain surgical masks for max comfort.

Not to mention $20 for essentially the same amount and type of material as in a pair of synthetic boxers. In another reality, this would be War Profiteering.
 
2020-10-21 10:45:44 AM  
I fold a mask into a neck gaiter (buff?)  to avoid the straps chafing my ears.
 
2020-10-21 10:53:37 AM  
 
2020-10-21 11:51:13 AM  

Sin'sHero: I fold a mask into a neck gaiter (buff?)  to avoid the straps chafing my ears.


i do the same with a bandana.  i figure people think i'm stupid only for only using a bandana, but i cinch it down and double knot it and it probably keeps the mask more tightly fitted to my face than most everyone else's and keeps stuff from leaking out the sides
 
2020-10-21 11:56:56 AM  
I knew a guy who used a neck gaiter to cover up his neck goiter.
 
2020-10-21 11:59:34 AM  
I assume Fox News is thinking this is the model to strive for:
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2020-10-21 12:24:41 PM  
Choot em' Lidzbith! Choot'em!
 
2020-10-21 12:30:04 PM  
When that gaiter goes round your neck, it doesn't seem to be livin.
 
2020-10-21 12:30:56 PM  
Fox news nope.
 
2020-10-21 12:31:00 PM  

NikolaiFarkoff: I have a Mission-branded cooling towel and it's FAR thicker than their neck gaiters. I can't even believe neck gaiters got popular in the first place. Maybe my nose isn't ramp-shaped enough, but the MF things never stay on my face for more than 30 seconds. I've tried 10+ designs since Covid started and I keep coming back to either N95 for max effectiveness or plain surgical masks for max comfort.

Not to mention $20 for essentially the same amount and type of material as in a pair of synthetic boxers. In another reality, this would be War Profiteering.


I've got some Mission ones and double folding is the way to go. It never stayed up with just putting it on without folding.

At the driving range it stayed up without any issues, where my mask was falling down constantly.

But I still wouldn't wear it, even with the double folding, in spots like the grocery store where I am indoors coming in close contact with more people.
 
2020-10-21 12:33:23 PM  
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2020-10-21 12:33:28 PM  
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2020-10-21 12:33:35 PM  

Combustion: I knew a guy who used a neck gaiter to cover up his neck goiter.


Is he a gator?
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2020-10-21 12:35:24 PM  

NikolaiFarkoff: I have a Mission-branded cooling towel and it's FAR thicker than their neck gaiters. I can't even believe neck gaiters got popular in the first place. Maybe my nose isn't ramp-shaped enough, but the MF things never stay on my face for more than 30 seconds. I've tried 10+ designs since Covid started and I keep coming back to either N95 for max effectiveness or plain surgical masks for max comfort.

Not to mention $20 for essentially the same amount and type of material as in a pair of synthetic boxers. In another reality, this would be War Profiteering.


I usually use a neck gaiter with pocket for an N95 filter (and with an N95 filter in that pocket).  Regular masks hurt my ears after a while, what can I say?

/you can get them a lot cheaper than $20 if you look
//just bought a pack of 3 with filters for $15
 
2020-10-21 12:42:41 PM  
I think I'll have some gator for dinner. Got some tail in the freezer
 
2020-10-21 12:45:28 PM  
I read that as neck goiter
 
2020-10-21 12:51:37 PM  
That's ok.  Two weeks from today the covid "hoax" which trump totally had and was not faking in the slightest will be declared officially "over" so everyone can throw their various face diapers away.  All schools will be ordered to return to 100% in person study or suffer immediate and permanent loss of federal funding.
 
2020-10-21 12:52:33 PM  
There must be some kind of way out of here said the joker to the thief
 
2020-10-21 12:53:28 PM  
Pretty much any face covering will help impede droplets, but there will be a big difference in efficiency depending on what the mask is made of.  That's where I think a lot of the confusion in the general public comes from.  There is an assumption that all face coverings are basically the same.

A gaiter is going to provide just minimal protection because the fabric is thin, stretchy, and has relatively large holes.  That level of protection is likely sufficient in areas where there is low risk and low virus density, such as in outdoor locations.  But in areas where there is going to be a higher viral load, like an indoor office, then the gaiter is not going to stop enough of the virus to keep someone from getting infected.  The studies I've seen for gaiters seem to show that they are better than nothing, but they are a lot worse than a surgical or N95 mask.
 
2020-10-21 12:54:23 PM  
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2020-10-21 12:56:19 PM  

Hickory-smoked: I read that as neck goiter


Good to know I'm not alone.

/I gotta see an optometrist.
 
2020-10-21 1:04:36 PM  
One isn't enough? How about 5?

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2020-10-21 1:08:02 PM  
I use iodized salt.
 
2020-10-21 1:09:05 PM  
There's an argument to be made it's better then nothing at all. However that being said a proper mask is better.
 
2020-10-21 1:10:47 PM  
Burt Reynolds stars in "Neck Gaiter".
 
2020-10-21 1:14:00 PM  
For reasons of comfort and style, I wear neck gaiters. For reasons of protection, I tape a PM2.5 mask filter to the inside, covering my nose and mouth. Seems to work fairly well.
 
2020-10-21 1:19:05 PM  

HailRobonia: Combustion: I knew a guy who used a neck gaiter to cover up his neck goiter.

Is he a gator?
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Is his doctor's assistant a gator goiter getter gofer?
 
2020-10-21 1:20:14 PM  
Yes, but it's still effective for virtue signaling.
 
2020-10-21 1:34:18 PM  
Goiter me this
 
2020-10-21 2:07:31 PM  

warrenn: Pretty much any face covering will help impede droplets, but there will be a big difference in efficiency depending on what the mask is made of.  That's where I think a lot of the confusion in the general public comes from.  There is an assumption that all face coverings are basically the same.

A gaiter is going to provide just minimal protection because the fabric is thin, stretchy, and has relatively large holes.  That level of protection is likely sufficient in areas where there is low risk and low virus density, such as in outdoor locations.  But in areas where there is going to be a higher viral load, like an indoor office, then the gaiter is not going to stop enough of the virus to keep someone from getting infected.  The studies I've seen for gaiters seem to show that they are better than nothing, but they are a lot worse than a surgical or N95 mask.


There was a study a couple of months back that said that a "neck fleece" (which I assumed was a neck gaitor made from polar fleece or similar material) resulted in changing the larger droplets into an aerosol that remained in the air for much longer than no mask at all.  So in an indoor space, under some conditions (coughing in a higher traffic area, but when no one was actually nearby at the time of the cough) it might be *worse* than no mask.

Which I suspect is why a gaitor company had to fund a study showing that they were okay.

And the general concept of the gaitor seemed to go against much of the other advice for masks -- natural fabrics (due to the varied distribution of fiber size), non-stretch, and multiple layers.  If you're using one with a filter pocket (and it actually has a filter, preferably non-woven), or it's to hold another mask down, that's probably okay ... but it's important to know that they really might cause problems if someone infected is wearing one.I have no idea if there have been studies to show how well they protect the wearer ... are they like the masks with valves, where at least it still protects you?
 
2020-10-21 2:11:31 PM  

efefvoC: For reasons of comfort and style, I wear neck gaiters. For reasons of protection, I tape a PM2.5 mask filter to the inside, covering my nose and mouth. Seems to work fairly well.


This may be true but since I can't see the proper filter, why should I trust you?
 
2020-10-21 2:22:07 PM  

warrenn: Pretty much any face covering will help impede droplets, but there will be a big difference in efficiency depending on what the mask is made of.  That's where I think a lot of the confusion in the general public comes from.  There is an assumption that all face coverings are basically the same.

A gaiter is going to provide just minimal protection because the fabric is thin, stretchy, and has relatively large holes.  That level of protection is likely sufficient in areas where there is low risk and low virus density, such as in outdoor locations.  But in areas where there is going to be a higher viral load, like an indoor office, then the gaiter is not going to stop enough of the virus to keep someone from getting infected.  The studies I've seen for gaiters seem to show that they are better than nothing, but they are a lot worse than a surgical or N95 mask.


It's almost as if we need to be informed about what protections certain face coverings have, then apply that knowledge to use the appropriate ones in each situations.

That is far too much critical thinking, no wonder we can't handle it.
 
2020-10-21 2:27:15 PM  
ANY mask, short of a full on mask respirator, is about as effective as your underwear, stopping a fart.
 
2020-10-21 2:30:19 PM  
I wear them to keep warm or cool depending on the temperature and activity.  If I am going to be around people, grocery store, farmer's market, etc., then it's a mask for me.  The Mission gaiter can be filed over such that you can get 2, 3, and even 4 layers of protection, but I would not make it my #1 masking device.
 
2020-10-21 2:32:20 PM  

p51d007: ANY mask, short of a full on mask respirator, is about as effective as your underwear, stopping a fart.


Any reason why areas with mask mandates and high mask usage have lower amount of cases? Just a wild coincidence?
 
2020-10-21 3:04:30 PM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: efefvoC: For reasons of comfort and style, I wear neck gaiters. For reasons of protection, I tape a PM2.5 mask filter to the inside, covering my nose and mouth. Seems to work fairly well.

This may be true but since I can't see the proper filter, why should I trust you?


An interesting conundrum. How do you trust anyone else to be properly masked? Looking around me at all the people with loose masks hanging off their faces, or tucked under nose or chin, I generally suspect that anyone actually managing to cover their face with anything is doing a better job than a quarter of the people out there. I suppose if we met in person and you were concerned about the efficacy of my face cover you could ask me about it, but in general I would recommend doing your part to the best of your ability, but don't trust your safety to strangers doing their's.
 
2020-10-21 3:14:19 PM  

p51d007: ANY mask, short of a full on mask respirator, is about as effective as your underwear, stopping a fart.


This isn't remotely true but you do you
 
2020-10-21 3:18:08 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: p51d007: ANY mask, short of a full on mask respirator, is about as effective as your underwear, stopping a fart.

This isn't remotely true but you do you


15 year old account suddenly starts posting again.

You know what to do.
 
2020-10-21 3:41:59 PM  

p51d007: ANY mask, short of a full on mask respirator, is about as effective as your underwear, stopping a fart.


Seriously, all the information is out there and has been out there for months and months now.  How are you still this completely ignorant?
 
2020-10-21 3:43:39 PM  
Gaiters are just highfalutin' dickeys.
 
2020-10-21 3:45:21 PM  

warrenn: Pretty much any face covering will help impede droplets, but there will be a big difference in efficiency depending on what the mask is made of.  That's where I think a lot of the confusion in the general public comes from.  There is an assumption that all face coverings are basically the same.

A gaiter is going to provide just minimal protection because the fabric is thin, stretchy, and has relatively large holes.  That level of protection is likely sufficient in areas where there is low risk and low virus density, such as in outdoor locations.  But in areas where there is going to be a higher viral load, like an indoor office, then the gaiter is not going to stop enough of the virus to keep someone from getting infected.  The studies I've seen for gaiters seem to show that they are better than nothing, but they are a lot worse than a surgical or N95 mask.


Came to say this.
Lazy people like to think in categories rather than understand what's actually going on. I invented an article of PPE that's an enclosed plastic shield that  goes over your whole face and gets the air from filtered vents above and behind the wearer. I use it in cases where distancing isn't an option as it's more protective than masks. Last week I flew. The stewardess declared it a face shield and since shields don't block air flow, I couldn't wear it.
 
2020-10-21 4:16:49 PM  

Billy Liar: Gaiters are just highfalutin' dickeys.


has anyone tested the efficacy of a cravat?
 
2020-10-21 4:40:46 PM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: TheDirtyNacho: p51d007: ANY mask, short of a full on mask respirator, is about as effective as your underwear, stopping a fart.

This isn't remotely true but you do you

15 year old account suddenly starts posting again.

You know what to do.


Why are you asking him to masturbate for you?
 
2020-10-21 4:41:46 PM  

NotARocketScientist: warrenn: Pretty much any face covering will help impede droplets, but there will be a big difference in efficiency depending on what the mask is made of.  That's where I think a lot of the confusion in the general public comes from.  There is an assumption that all face coverings are basically the same.

A gaiter is going to provide just minimal protection because the fabric is thin, stretchy, and has relatively large holes.  That level of protection is likely sufficient in areas where there is low risk and low virus density, such as in outdoor locations.  But in areas where there is going to be a higher viral load, like an indoor office, then the gaiter is not going to stop enough of the virus to keep someone from getting infected.  The studies I've seen for gaiters seem to show that they are better than nothing, but they are a lot worse than a surgical or N95 mask.

Came to say this.
Lazy people like to think in categories rather than understand what's actually going on. I invented an article of PPE that's an enclosed plastic shield that  goes over your whole face and gets the air from filtered vents above and behind the wearer. I use it in cases where distancing isn't an option as it's more protective than masks. Last week I flew. The stewardess declared it a face shield and since shields don't block air flow, I couldn't wear it.


Maybe if you were a rocket scientist, that wouldn't have happened.
 
2020-10-21 4:44:27 PM  
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2020-10-21 4:51:44 PM  
Have a law passed that states Neck gaiter producers have to be fed to actual gators.  Alive.  Problem solved.
 
2020-10-21 5:04:08 PM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: TheDirtyNacho: p51d007: ANY mask, short of a full on mask respirator, is about as effective as your underwear, stopping a fart.

This isn't remotely true but you do you

15 year old account suddenly starts posting again.

You know what to do.



Fix the cable?
 
2020-10-21 6:11:24 PM  
It's hard to find a gaiter that fits my goiter.
 
2020-10-21 6:18:41 PM  

Obscure Login: p51d007: ANY mask, short of a full on mask respirator, is about as effective as your underwear, stopping a fart.

Any reason why areas with mask mandates and high mask usage have lower amount of cases? Just a wild coincidence?


CDC study finds that the MAJORITY of people getting sick, HAD WORN MASKS

https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/12/c​dc-study-finds-overwhelming-majority-o​f-people-getting-coronavirus-wore-mask​s/
 
2020-10-21 6:20:12 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: TheDirtyNacho: p51d007: ANY mask, short of a full on mask respirator, is about as effective as your underwear, stopping a fart.

This isn't remotely true but you do you

15 year old account suddenly starts posting again.

You know what to do.


Fix the cable?



I'm on here all the time.
Plus, there is a CDC that shows the majority of sick/fatalities had worn masks all the time.

https://californiaglobe.com/section-2​/​new-cdc-study-finds-majority-of-those-​infected-with-covid-19-always-wore-mas​ks/
 
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