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2020-10-20 11:50:34 PM  
The End
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2020-10-20 11:52:21 PM  
Being dead will be just like it was before birth

An infinite amount of time will pass and frankly none of us will care
2020-10-20 11:54:23 PM  
2020-10-20 11:56:56 PM  
This is the Earth. It's where you keep all your stuff. Now, it's gone.

2020-10-20 11:57:05 PM  
2020-10-21 12:02:37 AM  
Just make sure before it's permanent lights out that you have someone you can trust to delete your internet cache and cookies.
2020-10-21 12:03:25 AM  
As an exchange of energy.

/what a stupid question.
2020-10-21 12:08:15 AM  
I think of death as obeying the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
2020-10-21 12:17:21 AM  
Death is just the end of my life. Life will use up whatever is left of I was, then it goes on. 

By lottery I was born. By lottery and choices I will die. Same as it ever was.
2020-10-21 12:22:26 AM  
The materials of my body return to the earth and my effect on the universe will soon dissipate into nothing.
2020-10-21 12:23:07 AM  
All dressed up and nowhere to go?
2020-10-21 12:26:50 AM  
Well I hope it's the end because any alternatives suck.
2020-10-21 1:15:00 AM  
You just die. It turns black. Then nothing.

/Died two years ago.
//Obvs. I got better.
///Don't wanna do that soon, again I mean.
2020-10-21 1:31:47 AM  
Death is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to death
2020-10-21 1:45:02 AM  
When I was a young atheist I didn't fear death and never expected to be an old atheist.  Now that I screwed up that plan, as an old atheist, I don't want to die cause yeah, game over. Not going to start believing in magic fairy tales just cause it might make me feel better.  I'm old, but I'm not an idiot.
2020-10-21 2:17:19 AM  
Death is similar to falling asleep.
One minute you're in the present, the next moment, you're not.
2020-10-21 2:47:29 AM  

cman: Being dead will be just like it was before birth

An infinite amount of time will pass and frankly none of us will care

We all come from the same nothing and return to it. So since our consciousness was ripped from the void once it will be done again and since there is no identity in the void we are in essence everyone who was died before we were born and will become everyone who is born after we die.
2020-10-21 3:04:40 AM  
Same way we viewed the 13 billion years before we were alive. Eternity will go quickly.
2020-10-21 3:11:36 AM  
In 2020?  A freaking relief.
2020-10-21 3:35:02 AM  
I don't fear death, but I'm rather averse to pain. So if I can have a painless death, I'm all for it.
2020-10-21 3:54:57 AM  
My soul will go to Hot Babeland to party with hot babes for eternity.  Spuds Mackenzie is already there.
2020-10-21 4:17:10 AM  
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2020-10-21 4:44:26 AM  
When I die I want to be buried in a shallow grave and a tree planted over my body, so it can grow and absorb the nutrients that my decaying remains will provide.

That is what I look forward to in death: That I continue to feed the living, that I give back to this Earth what it has given to me. It is a finality more poignant and -- dare I say spiritual -- than the selfish eternity of continued consciousness that any religion promises.

We do not inherit the Earth from our ancestors. We borrow it from our children. And sooner or later we have to give it back.

You always gotta pay it forward.
2020-10-21 4:45:41 AM  
For myself, it's something that I want to avoid for a while yet, but I know that there will come a time when I am happy for the sweet release of oblivion.
2020-10-21 4:49:26 AM  
I have no idea what happens after we die and no one else does either; anyone can guess but the only guess that has a chance of being 100% right is there's nothing. I can't change what happens so I try not to dwell on it as I'll find out just like everyone else has and will.
2020-10-21 4:53:37 AM  
Have you ever been under general anesthesia for surgery of some sort?  It's not like going to sleep, where maybe you dream and you're still responsive should there be a sudden noise.  Under anesthesia it's like a slice of your life has just vanished and suddenly you're on the the other side of it with so sense of passing time.  Death is like that, except there is no other side.
2020-10-21 5:00:21 AM  
I don't fear death.  I fear dying horribly or being crippled beyond what I already am. Dead is dead.
2020-10-21 5:06:37 AM  
Death...? What's Atheism got to do with death? I just want to yell at women and muslims on the internet.
2020-10-21 5:22:48 AM  

forteblast: "I know it is coming, and I do not fear it, because I believe there is nothing on the other side of death to fear."

Fantastic read, thankyou
2020-10-21 5:36:06 AM  
Like discworld Death.
2020-10-21 5:52:54 AM  
Everything is beautiful and nothing hurt
2020-10-21 5:53:15 AM  
Pretty sure that's William Sadler
2020-10-21 6:20:08 AM  
Remember before you were born? Yeah, it's like that.
2020-10-21 6:21:06 AM  
Whatever it is, rush Limbaugh will find out before me and that makes me happy.
2020-10-21 6:27:38 AM  
Death is the end of existence in this reality, that's really all we know. It could be nothing, or it could be something. I'm not in a rush to find out as we'll all get there eventually, but it is exciting to think there might being something else. And if there isn't, we won't mind.

Just as a fun thought experiment, this would be a cool version of what could really be going on. Entertaining this theory as a possibility is the closest I will ever get to religion.

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2020-10-21 7:11:42 AM  
My theory (and what it is too):

As Carl Sagan said, "We are starstuff." Meaning, every atom in our bodies was present at the Big Bang, and every atom in our bodies will be present until the end of time. For a cosmic blink of an eye, they've been arranged into us, and when we die, they will return to the universe to do something else (or nothing else).

What does that mean? It means we're incredibly lucky to be alive, sentient and living on a planet that sustains life. The mere chance of our existence is incalculably small. Change one of a billion factors, and we were never here.

That, to me, is a bona-fide miracle that obviates the need for any deity or supernatural force.

It also means that we're only here for that blink of an eye, so while we're alive, we need to give and get as much pleasure as possible. Love. Sex. Art. Music. Knowledge. Empathy. Comfort. Food. Laughter. If it is pleasurable, experience it, and do what you can to let others experience it too.

That's it.
2020-10-21 7:23:06 AM  
With protective goggles.
2020-10-21 7:25:06 AM  
After 50+ years of catholicism, I'm now halfway thru Avaita Vedanta and have Schopenhauer's "World as Will and Representation" to get thru before I feel I can answer that question with any degree of accuracy. I'll check back in about a month.
2020-10-21 7:34:27 AM  
I don't believe there's anything after we die. It's just oblivion. But if there was something more I'd want it be Neil Gaiman's depiction of death as a friendly face to greet us at the end. I would find that comforting.

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2020-10-21 7:36:17 AM  
Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.  When I'm dead, I won't exactly be around to notice or care.

My fears associated with death run more along the ability to see an immediate, impending death coming.  I'd rather die instantly than have to worry about trying to square my life away in 3 months of terminal cancer.
2020-10-21 7:43:11 AM  

syrynxx: I don't fear death.  I fear dying horribly or being crippled beyond what I already am. Dead is dead.

Honestly it would be better to be dead. Life is meaningless and void of reason.
2020-10-21 7:48:55 AM  
Who cares?  I want to make sure Jesus isn't a white dude.  God doesn't care if you believe or not, as long as you're a good person, so going to church is merely cathartic for you.
2020-10-21 7:56:38 AM  
I've been working on a long term climate-change-themed art project. I'm hoping to "cheat" death or rather, create a legacy that will have folks inspired by, or at least talking about my work long after I'm gone. It remains to be seen just how far I'll get with it, but I'm hoping to do some solo gallery shows eventually. Leaving some type of footprint on this world after you're gone is the best we can hope for.
2020-10-21 8:00:35 AM  
I dunno but I want to be buried at sea. Mostly because it amuses me to force my family and friends to take a nice boat trip and end it by tossing me over the side like one of Dexter's victims.
2020-10-21 8:02:34 AM  
Life is what matters, not death.  You only go around once, so make it count.

If......there is "something" afterward, which I highly doubt but can't 100% rule out the possibility, it sure isn't the biblical or quranic ideal.  There is no god who would go through creating an entire universe, only to put life on one little mud ball, only to obsess over what we do with our genitals.

"Welcome, Spud!  How was your trip?  Let's look in the Book here....kind to strangers, good....helped the needy, good....that time you rescued a kitty from the shelter, good....oh...oh rubbed one out...HOW MANY TIMES?   Yes, well, I'm afraid it's the Hot Place for you!"   (trap door opens)
2020-10-21 8:07:05 AM  
I've been practicing my board game skills so I don't have to find out.

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2020-10-21 8:10:36 AM  
Praying is like chanting a mantra.  It doesn't help anyone except for you.
2020-10-21 8:15:39 AM  
2020-10-21 8:18:09 AM  
From a distance?
2020-10-21 8:27:42 AM  
A release from responsibility? Only in death does duty end...
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