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2020-10-20 9:22:59 AM  
I am so Stokked!
 
2020-10-20 9:27:33 AM  
Just the original, or does it cover the wide array of sequels and spinoffs?
 
2020-10-20 9:33:40 AM  
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Yes, I do.
 
2020-10-20 10:07:44 AM  
This thread smells Ditty-ish. ;)
 
2020-10-20 10:10:22 AM  
This is a great little documentary on the best B+ movie about Graboids ever made!
 
2020-10-20 10:15:00 AM  

Gubbo: Just the original, or does it cover the wide array of sequels and spinoffs?


Just the original.
I had a sad after watching it and wondering why Finn Carter wasn't part of the interviews.
Sadly she has has some hard times lately.

It's worth a watch if you're a fan.
 
2020-10-20 10:51:30 AM  
I wonder if they'll mention Finn Carter and her troubles.
 
2020-10-20 10:51:39 AM  

AtomPeepers: This is a great little documentary on the best B+ movie about Graboids ever made!


It's not really a doc, it's a featurette, and not a very detailed one.
 
2020-10-20 11:09:06 AM  

phimuskapsi: AtomPeepers: This is a great little documentary on the best B+ movie about Graboids ever made!

It's not really a doc, it's a featurette, and not a very detailed one.


Fair. I have seen so little behind the scenes material on Tremors i made me happy.

I had no idea they built the whole town of Perfection!
 
2020-10-20 11:21:42 AM  

NuclearPenguins: This thread smells Ditty-ish. ;)


I didn't submit it.   First I saw of it.   I submitted the thread about Bonsai dope plants in the STEM tab.
 
2020-10-20 11:33:10 AM  
And I see that a new one came out just today.

Please stop.  The first couple were great, but they've gotten worse with each sequel.  And whoever thought Jaime Kennedy was a good idea to add to the franchise should be fed to a graboid.
 
2020-10-20 11:36:16 AM  

AtomPeepers: phimuskapsi: AtomPeepers: This is a great little documentary on the best B+ movie about Graboids ever made!

It's not really a doc, it's a featurette, and not a very detailed one.

Fair. I have seen so little behind the scenes material on Tremors i made me happy.

I had no idea they built the whole town of Perfection!


That was neat. I was a bit surprised to hear that it was really cold. 

I would have liked something with a bit more meat on the bones, rather than what is mostly an interview with Kevin Bacon about his role, his career and so on.
 
2020-10-20 12:00:52 PM  

dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: This thread smells Ditty-ish. ;)

I didn't submit it.   First I saw of it.   I submitted the thread about Bonsai dope plants in the STEM tab.


I would have sworn that this was one of yours. Actually, I think that about any Tremors link that gets posted. You are Fark's very own Burt Gummer.
 
2020-10-20 12:42:38 PM  
csb:

Our massage therapist at 3DO was the guy that had his hand up the sandworm puppet's butt.
 
2020-10-20 12:45:11 PM  

E.S.Q.: 3DO


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2020-10-20 12:46:12 PM  
I watch tremors about once a year. I don't know why, I just find of comforting for some reason. I was super bummed the recent Bacon-backed project didn't pan out.
 
2020-10-20 1:07:57 PM  

NuclearPenguins: E.S.Q.: 3DO

[Fark user image 450x299]?


Yes, but post-hardware to software transition. I ran their MMORPG
 
2020-10-20 1:12:50 PM  

grokca: [Fark user image image 259x194]
Yes, I do.


I've done a little, uh, research on the topic, and for whatever reason pole vault training seems to produce some really, really nice results. Remarkable compared even to other sports, and to the rest of track & field. Not sure what about it does that, but wow. It's effective.
 
2020-10-20 1:24:41 PM  

NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: This thread smells Ditty-ish. ;)

I didn't submit it.   First I saw of it.   I submitted the thread about Bonsai dope plants in the STEM tab.

I would have sworn that this was one of yours. Actually, I think that about any Tremors link that gets posted. You are Fark's very own Burt Gummer.


Far from it.  I don't have anywhere near that number of guns, and the ones I mostly shoot are the kinds that predate any of the Tremors films.  More The Patriot and Last of the Mohicans.

Plus, I don't have any of this:

Food for five years, a thousand gallons of gas, air filtration, water filtration, Geiger counter.* Bomb shelter! Underground... God damn monsters.


I'd like the series even without Burt Gummer.   I like monster movies.   I've got 4 different Godzillas sitting on my desk right now (1954, 2000, 2015, and a plush one).   I have nearly the complete series of Gamera films.   I do have all of the Predator and Alien films (and Terminator films, but not really a 'monster').   All of the Pitch Black films.  All of the Tremors films, except the new one.

Plus all of the Jurassic Park films, of course.

I have a smattering of others.

The reason why I really like Tremors is because it breaks the mold.   It doesn't happen at night or in dark interiors, or during dark rainy days, or in the fog.   Most of the action in the films happens in the bright desert sun.  Plus, it's that rare combination of horror and humor.  It's a horrmor film.

*Full disclosure:  I do have a dosimeter and charger.  But I think one or more of the paper capacitors in the charger is bad.  It no longer charges the dosimeter.   Bought it 30 years ago at a hamfest, and it was probably 30 years old then.
 
2020-10-20 1:30:14 PM  

Badmoodman: I wonder if they'll mention Finn Carter and her troubles.


She was married to Steven Weber, and went to Skidmore College.  It really was foreseeable.
 
2020-10-20 1:30:24 PM  

dittybopper: All of the Pitch Black films


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I see that you too are a man of culture and refinement.
 
2020-10-20 1:38:19 PM  

NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: All of the Pitch Black films

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I see that you too are a man of culture and refinement.


Well, the first and third were good.  I just rewatched the first one recently.

The second one seems to suffer from what Frederick Brooks called the "Second System Effect":

The second-system effect (also known as second-system syndrome) is the tendency of small, elegant, and successful systems to be succeeded by over-engineered, bloated systems, due to inflated expectations and overconfidence.

I've taken to calling it "The Ridicules of Chronic".
 
2020-10-20 2:16:57 PM  

dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: All of the Pitch Black films

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I see that you too are a man of culture and refinement.

Well, the first and third were good.  I just rewatched the first one recently.

The second one seems to suffer from what Frederick Brooks called the "Second System Effect":

The second-system effect (also known as second-system syndrome) is the tendency of small, elegant, and successful systems to be succeeded by over-engineered, bloated systems, due to inflated expectations and overconfidence.

I've taken to calling it "The Ridicules of Chronic".


I was pleasantly surprised at how good the first one was.
 
2020-10-20 2:35:17 PM  

NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: All of the Pitch Black films

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I see that you too are a man of culture and refinement.

Well, the first and third were good.  I just rewatched the first one recently.

The second one seems to suffer from what Frederick Brooks called the "Second System Effect":

The second-system effect (also known as second-system syndrome) is the tendency of small, elegant, and successful systems to be succeeded by over-engineered, bloated systems, due to inflated expectations and overconfidence.

I've taken to calling it "The Ridicules of Chronic".

I was pleasantly surprised at how good the first one was.


It's similar in that way to Tremors.   It's a film that "punches above it's weight class".

Oh, and I forgot one of my monster bona fides.  The entire original Ultraman series on DVD.
 
2020-10-20 2:38:57 PM  

dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: All of the Pitch Black films

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I see that you too are a man of culture and refinement.

Well, the first and third were good.  I just rewatched the first one recently.

The second one seems to suffer from what Frederick Brooks called the "Second System Effect":

The second-system effect (also known as second-system syndrome) is the tendency of small, elegant, and successful systems to be succeeded by over-engineered, bloated systems, due to inflated expectations and overconfidence.

I've taken to calling it "The Ridicules of Chronic".

I was pleasantly surprised at how good the first one was.

It's similar in that way to Tremors.   It's a film that "punches above it's weight class".

Oh, and I forgot one of my monster bona fides.  The entire original Ultraman series on DVD.


Region 2 DVDs?
 
2020-10-20 2:46:00 PM  

NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: All of the Pitch Black films

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I see that you too are a man of culture and refinement.

Well, the first and third were good.  I just rewatched the first one recently.

The second one seems to suffer from what Frederick Brooks called the "Second System Effect":

The second-system effect (also known as second-system syndrome) is the tendency of small, elegant, and successful systems to be succeeded by over-engineered, bloated systems, due to inflated expectations and overconfidence.

I've taken to calling it "The Ridicules of Chronic".

I was pleasantly surprised at how good the first one was.

It's similar in that way to Tremors.   It's a film that "punches above it's weight class".

Oh, and I forgot one of my monster bona fides.  The entire original Ultraman series on DVD.

Region 2 DVDs?


Region 1.

It's got the English dubs like you remember from watching it as a kid, but also the original Japanese, and available English subtitles.   I like it even better with the subtitles.

You can get it in Blu-Ray now:
https://www.millcreekent.com/products​/​ultraman-complete
 
2020-10-20 2:47:39 PM  

dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: All of the Pitch Black films

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I see that you too are a man of culture and refinement.

Well, the first and third were good.  I just rewatched the first one recently.

The second one seems to suffer from what Frederick Brooks called the "Second System Effect":

The second-system effect (also known as second-system syndrome) is the tendency of small, elegant, and successful systems to be succeeded by over-engineered, bloated systems, due to inflated expectations and overconfidence.

I've taken to calling it "The Ridicules of Chronic".

I was pleasantly surprised at how good the first one was.

It's similar in that way to Tremors.   It's a film that "punches above it's weight class".

Oh, and I forgot one of my monster bona fides.  The entire original Ultraman series on DVD.

Region 2 DVDs?

Region 1.

It's got the English dubs like you remember from watching it as a kid, but also the original Japanese, and available English subtitles.   I like it even better with the subtitles.

You can get it in Blu-Ray now:
https://www.millcreekent.com/products/​ultraman-complete


It was a little before my time (I turn 40 in January) but my father made sure I grew up with the classics.
 
2020-10-20 2:51:14 PM  

NuclearPenguins: It was a little before my time (I turn 40 in January) but my father made sure I grew up with the classics.


I'm in my 50's.  I remember watching it on those UHF stations in the 1970's.   Along with Johnny Sokko and his Flying Robot (Giant Robo), and Speed Racer, and Marine Boy.

Don't bother with Johnny Sokko.   After I was pleasantly surprised watching Ultraman again, I watched an episode of Giant Robo.  Completely awful.
 
2020-10-20 2:55:32 PM  

dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: It was a little before my time (I turn 40 in January) but my father made sure I grew up with the classics.

I'm in my 50's.  I remember watching it on those UHF stations in the 1970's.   Along with Johnny Sokko and his Flying Robot (Giant Robo), and Speed Racer, and Marine Boy.

Don't bother with Johnny Sokko.   After I was pleasantly surprised watching Ultraman again, I watched an episode of Giant Robo.  Completely awful.


You're the 2nd person this month who has told me that they disliked Johnny Sokko. And I have gone years without ever even thinking about the series.
 
2020-10-20 2:56:01 PM  
Look at us, getting along and shiat.

It's the power of monsters.
 
2020-10-20 3:00:49 PM  

dittybopper: Look at us, getting along and shiat.

It's the power of monsters.


For the record, I would like to apologize for being a dick constantly.

And yes, quality (and to be fair, I do enjoy terrible ones as well) monster movies could bring anyone together. Hell, Japan used to be our enemy and now everyone in the world loves Godzilla.
 
2020-10-20 3:51:50 PM  

NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: Look at us, getting along and shiat.

It's the power of monsters.

For the record, I would like to apologize for being a dick constantly.

And yes, quality (and to be fair, I do enjoy terrible ones as well) monster movies could bring anyone together. Hell, Japan used to be our enemy and now everyone in the world loves Godzilla.


Well, I'm sure I'm not completely innocent either.

Godzilla is an interesting case.   The original film is deeper in meaning that pretty much any of the films we're talking about.   Godzilla as a metaphor for the atomic bomb.  And it wasn't exactly friendly to the US.  If you watch the Japanese version, there are plenty of references to WWII.  Train passengers complaining about having to spend time in shelters again.  A woman with her children, in the path of Gojira, comforting them and saying that they'll be with their father soon (presumably he died during the war).

But edit it here and there, throw Perry Mason in there to give it some context, and *BAM*!, you've got a hit in America.

If you do want something to piss you off again, though, I'm one of those who thinks the 1998 Godzilla was a decent film, better than most of the Toho fare, and that Final Wars is an orange and blue staccato crapfest.
 
2020-10-20 4:11:50 PM  

dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: Look at us, getting along and shiat.

It's the power of monsters.

For the record, I would like to apologize for being a dick constantly.

And yes, quality (and to be fair, I do enjoy terrible ones as well) monster movies could bring anyone together. Hell, Japan used to be our enemy and now everyone in the world loves Godzilla.

Well, I'm sure I'm not completely innocent either.

Godzilla is an interesting case.   The original film is deeper in meaning that pretty much any of the films we're talking about.   Godzilla as a metaphor for the atomic bomb.  And it wasn't exactly friendly to the US.  If you watch the Japanese version, there are plenty of references to WWII.  Train passengers complaining about having to spend time in shelters again.  A woman with her children, in the path of Gojira, comforting them and saying that they'll be with their father soon (presumably he died during the war).

But edit it here and there, throw Perry Mason in there to give it some context, and *BAM*!, you've got a hit in America.

If you do want something to piss you off again, though, I'm one of those who thinks the 1998 Godzilla was a decent film, better than most of the Toho fare, and that Final Wars is an orange and blue staccato crapfest.


The 1998 one was alright, I never understood the hate for it. I haven't the newest one yet.
 
2020-10-20 5:01:38 PM  

dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: All of the Pitch Black films

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I see that you too are a man of culture and refinement.

Well, the first and third were good.  I just rewatched the first one recently.

The second one seems to suffer from what Frederick Brooks called the "Second System Effect":

The second-system effect (also known as second-system syndrome) is the tendency of small, elegant, and successful systems to be succeeded by over-engineered, bloated systems, due to inflated expectations and overconfidence.

I've taken to calling it "The Ridicules of Chronic".

I was pleasantly surprised at how good the first one was.

It's similar in that way to Tremors.   It's a film that "punches above it's weight class".

Oh, and I forgot one of my monster bona fides.  The entire original Ultraman series on DVD.

Region 2 DVDs?

Region 1.

It's got the English dubs like you remember from watching it as a kid, but also the original Japanese, and available English subtitles.   I like it even better with the subtitles.

You can get it in Blu-Ray now:
https://www.millcreekent.com/products/​ultraman-complete


Call me when this is available...

https://reelgood.com/show/g-vs-e-1999​
 
2020-10-20 5:30:43 PM  
Repeat, but I guess this tab needs content.
 
2020-10-20 6:30:42 PM  

NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: Look at us, getting along and shiat.

It's the power of monsters.

For the record, I would like to apologize for being a dick constantly.

And yes, quality (and to be fair, I do enjoy terrible ones as well) monster movies could bring anyone together. Hell, Japan used to be our enemy and now everyone in the world loves Godzilla.

Well, I'm sure I'm not completely innocent either.

Godzilla is an interesting case.   The original film is deeper in meaning that pretty much any of the films we're talking about.   Godzilla as a metaphor for the atomic bomb.  And it wasn't exactly friendly to the US.  If you watch the Japanese version, there are plenty of references to WWII.  Train passengers complaining about having to spend time in shelters again.  A woman with her children, in the path of Gojira, comforting them and saying that they'll be with their father soon (presumably he died during the war).

But edit it here and there, throw Perry Mason in there to give it some context, and *BAM*!, you've got a hit in America.

If you do want something to piss you off again, though, I'm one of those who thinks the 1998 Godzilla was a decent film, better than most of the Toho fare, and that Final Wars is an orange and blue staccato crapfest.

The 1998 one was alright, I never understood the hate for it. I haven't the newest one yet.


King of the Monsters?  It was....  OK I guess.  Too orange and blue.  Seriously Hollywood, knock it off with that palette.

And like the Ridicules of Chronic, it suffers from Second System Effect.

I liked the 2014 film, and I liked Kong: Skull Island even better.  KotM?  Meh.  I have it on disc, but only because I like to have complete sets.
 
2020-10-20 6:42:13 PM  

dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: Look at us, getting along and shiat.

It's the power of monsters.

For the record, I would like to apologize for being a dick constantly.

And yes, quality (and to be fair, I do enjoy terrible ones as well) monster movies could bring anyone together. Hell, Japan used to be our enemy and now everyone in the world loves Godzilla.

Well, I'm sure I'm not completely innocent either.

Godzilla is an interesting case.   The original film is deeper in meaning that pretty much any of the films we're talking about.   Godzilla as a metaphor for the atomic bomb.  And it wasn't exactly friendly to the US.  If you watch the Japanese version, there are plenty of references to WWII.  Train passengers complaining about having to spend time in shelters again.  A woman with her children, in the path of Gojira, comforting them and saying that they'll be with their father soon (presumably he died during the war).

But edit it here and there, throw Perry Mason in there to give it some context, and *BAM*!, you've got a hit in America.

If you do want something to piss you off again, though, I'm one of those who thinks the 1998 Godzilla was a decent film, better than most of the Toho fare, and that Final Wars is an orange and blue staccato crapfest.

The 1998 one was alright, I never understood the hate for it. I haven't the newest one yet.

King of the Monsters?  It was....  OK I guess.  Too orange and blue.  Seriously Hollywood, knock it off with that palette.

And like the Ridicules of Chronic, it suffers from Second System Effect.

I liked the 2014 film, and I liked Kong: Skull Island even better.  KotM?  Meh.  I have it on disc, but only because I like to have complete sets.


I know they use the blue/orange filters because it helps with the computer generated special effects, but god damn is it annoying. The Hobbit trilogy is the worst offender that I've seen.
 
2020-10-20 7:11:49 PM  
I only saw the first Hobbit film.  Stretching out a 300 page juvenile novel to many hours of film.  It takes less time to read the book than watch the trilogy.
 
2020-10-20 8:04:54 PM  
Watching Shrieker Island now on Netflix.
 
2020-10-20 8:14:05 PM  
Holy crap, Jasmine!
 
2020-10-20 8:28:48 PM  
"They hunt by heat signature, like predator"

"This is not some Hollywood fairy tale"
 
2020-10-20 9:22:35 PM  
Well, that's one way to end a series.
 
2020-10-20 9:26:34 PM  
...and don't forget to pay your taxes.
 
2020-10-20 9:32:15 PM  

dittybopper: Watching Shrieker Island now on Netflix.


So?  Worth watching?  The last two were pretty terrible.
 
2020-10-20 10:30:54 PM  

NuclearPenguins: I know they use the blue/orange filters because it helps with the computer generated special effects, but god damn is it annoying.


It's more because it works well with Caucasian skin tones. Once upon a time, that'd be more on the cinematography, but starting in the early 2000s hardware LUTs started to become a thing (and now, they're in software), so you can color grade your film to get pretty much any look you like in post. Also, film is easily one of the most faddish industries out there: your goal in a film isn't to make a unique expression of your idea, it's to imitate whatever is popular right now. Once a film made bank with the orange/blue color grade, every film started to look like it. Then "arty" films went with the magenta/cyan, which has the benefit of working better on darker skin. Or magenta/green, which green you could never use on white people outside of weird effects.
 
2020-10-21 4:22:44 AM  

dittybopper: Badmoodman: I wonder if they'll mention Finn Carter and her troubles.

She was married to Steven Weber, and went to Skidmore College.  It really was foreseeable.


I live down the road from Skidmore
 
2020-10-21 7:00:39 AM  

NeoCortex42: dittybopper: Watching Shrieker Island now on Netflix.

So?  Worth watching?  The last two were pretty terrible.


Better than the last two, definitely.

I mean, Tremors films aren't high art by any means, but this one is better than the ones filmed in South Africa.  And yes, A Cold Day in Hell was filmed there.  That "snow" was actually sand.

They returned Burt to being an affectionate caricature of a survivalist/prepper.  He wasn't as vulgar as in the last two, nor openly anti-government, nor was urine mentioned at all, much less drank.

Jaime Kennedy's absence was explained by his character Travis being in a Mexican jail.

The setting is different than any other Tremors film, lots of lush vegetation.  The ending is also different from every other Tremors film, but I won't spoil it.
 
2020-10-21 7:05:43 AM  

knoxvelour: dittybopper: Badmoodman: I wonder if they'll mention Finn Carter and her troubles.

She was married to Steven Weber, and went to Skidmore College.  It really was foreseeable.

I live down the road from Skidmore


Howdy neighbor.  I live north of you and work south of you.
 
2020-10-21 7:27:13 AM  

t3knomanser: NuclearPenguins: I know they use the blue/orange filters because it helps with the computer generated special effects, but god damn is it annoying.

It's more because it works well with Caucasian skin tones. Once upon a time, that'd be more on the cinematography, but starting in the early 2000s hardware LUTs started to become a thing (and now, they're in software), so you can color grade your film to get pretty much any look you like in post. Also, film is easily one of the most faddish industries out there: your goal in a film isn't to make a unique expression of your idea, it's to imitate whatever is popular right now. Once a film made bank with the orange/blue color grade, every film started to look like it. Then "arty" films went with the magenta/cyan, which has the benefit of working better on darker skin. Or magenta/green, which green you could never use on white people outside of weird effects.



https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph​p​/Main/OrangeBlueContrast
 
2020-10-21 7:51:30 AM  

NuclearPenguins: The 1998 one was alright, I never understood the hate for it. I haven't the newest one yet.


I've always thought that if they 1998 film was called "The Monster That Ate Manhattan", or something, and didn't mention the Godzilla name at all, it would have been much better received.

I think actual Godzilla fans were turned off because they changed the look of Godzilla too much.  They made him look more like what a modern conception of a theropod dinosaur should be, with the horizontal posture, and they changed the face too much.   They also made Godzilla *FAST*.

That's different than the ponderous, inexorable pace of the suitmation Godzillas the fans grew up on.   Plus, unlike all the other Godzilla films except the first one, the monster is mortal and dies in the end.

So the fans mostly didn't like it.

The other group, the people who don't like Godzilla films of the past, had preconceived notions about what a Godzilla film is about, and that kept them away.

Looked at objectively, the 1998 film is better in almost every way than almost all of the Toho films that predate it, with the sole exception of the original Japanese version which is a classic film.   The Toho films rapidly got silly, and while I enjoy that, it can be taken too far.   Even setting aside the better special effects available by the late 1990's, the 1998 film had a better origin story, better "science", better acting, a better plot, and better humor than almost all of the Toho films.   And it was self-effacing, too:  "It's Gojira, you moron!".

I don't think it got a fair shake.

Which isn't that I think it's Dr. Zhivago, here.   We're grading on a curve, of course, and the film does have some flaws.   But overall I think it's better than it gets credit for being.
 
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