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2020-10-20 1:13:53 AM  
Obscure is relative. That's Steve.
 
2020-10-20 2:52:04 AM  
And yet I still don't give shiat.

/only just enough to post this
 
2020-10-20 2:54:13 AM  
Tom-ah-to
 
2020-10-20 2:57:53 AM  

Bob Down: Tom-ah-to


I AM my daddy!
 
2020-10-20 3:01:51 AM  
Bring back M'ress, you cowards.
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2020-10-20 4:42:33 AM  
I've been watching old episodes of TNG on Pluto TV and that show is awful.  Discovery is so much better and so is TOS, and DS9. Picard and the gang have aged as well as Rick Astley.
 
2020-10-20 6:57:29 AM  
It WAS weird to see a member of Morn's species getting froggy with a disintegrator. Lurians, man. You just can't keep 'em down.
 
2020-10-20 7:05:15 AM  

Confabulat: I've been watching old episodes of TNG on Pluto TV and that show is awful.  Discovery is so much better and so is TOS, and DS9. Picard and the gang have aged as well as Rick Astley.


I don't know, I think this is still the best scene in all of Star Trek's history: link
 
2020-10-20 7:57:03 AM  

Confabulat: I've been watching old episodes of TNG on Pluto TV and that show is awful.  Discovery is so much better and so is TOS, and DS9. Picard and the gang have aged as well as Rick Astley.


"The Inner Light"; "Yesterday's Enterprise"; "Nth Degree" and a few others are the best tales that franchise will ever produce.
 
2020-10-20 8:08:44 AM  

MattytheMouse: Bring back M'ress, you cowards.
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Star Trek: Lower Decks had a Caitian.

I'm sure there's some Furry rule 34 out there.
 
2020-10-20 8:13:25 AM  

MagicChicken: MattytheMouse: Bring back M'ress, you cowards.
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Star Trek: Lower Decks had a Caitian.

I'm sure there's some Furry rule 34 out there.


I assure you, there is.
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2020-10-20 8:14:10 AM  

Bslim: And yet I still don't give shiat.

/only just enough to post this


Somehow it's still too much.
 
2020-10-20 8:14:16 AM  

August11: Confabulat: I've been watching old episodes of TNG on Pluto TV and that show is awful.  Discovery is so much better and so is TOS, and DS9. Picard and the gang have aged as well as Rick Astley.

"The Inner Light"; "Yesterday's Enterprise"; "Nth Degree" and a few others are the best tales that franchise will ever produce.


The exception doesn't prove the rule.  For every good episode of TNG there are twenty ones that suck.  Discovery is a better show, period.
 
2020-10-20 8:19:28 AM  
Richard Pryor -- Star Wars Bar
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Richard Pryor, so you know he uses the N-word.
 
2020-10-20 8:20:23 AM  

Confabulat: The exception doesn't prove the rule.


Exceptions actually disprove the rule.
 
2020-10-20 8:22:27 AM  

Confabulat: August11: Confabulat: I've been watching old episodes of TNG on Pluto TV and that show is awful.  Discovery is so much better and so is TOS, and DS9. Picard and the gang have aged as well as Rick Astley.

"The Inner Light"; "Yesterday's Enterprise"; "Nth Degree" and a few others are the best tales that franchise will ever produce.

The exception doesn't prove the rule.  For every good episode of TNG there are twenty ones that suck.  Discovery is a better show, period.


forget it, he's rolling.
 
2020-10-20 8:23:35 AM  

Confabulat: August11: Confabulat: I've been watching old episodes of TNG on Pluto TV and that show is awful.  Discovery is so much better and so is TOS, and DS9. Picard and the gang have aged as well as Rick Astley.

"The Inner Light"; "Yesterday's Enterprise"; "Nth Degree" and a few others are the best tales that franchise will ever produce.

The exception doesn't prove the rule.  For every good episode of TNG there are twenty ones that suck.  Discovery is a better show, period.


You're not wrong. But consider this - we hadn't had any Trek other than reruns for what, 30 years?  It sucked - especially the first two seasons.  But it was new ST on the teevee.  And that was just OK.

We may look back on Discovery the same way someday.  Who knows.  But yeah, like you I love it.  I was miffed about it costing money.  But I am now un-miffed.
 
2020-10-20 8:35:32 AM  

Tor_Eckman: Confabulat: August11: Confabulat: I've been watching old episodes of TNG on Pluto TV and that show is awful.  Discovery is so much better and so is TOS, and DS9. Picard and the gang have aged as well as Rick Astley.

"The Inner Light"; "Yesterday's Enterprise"; "Nth Degree" and a few others are the best tales that franchise will ever produce.

The exception doesn't prove the rule.  For every good episode of TNG there are twenty ones that suck.  Discovery is a better show, period.

You're not wrong. But consider this - we hadn't had any Trek other than reruns for what, 30 years?  It sucked - especially the first two seasons.  But it was new ST on the teevee.  And that was just OK.

We may look back on Discovery the same way someday.  Who knows.  But yeah, like you I love it.  I was miffed about it costing money.  But I am now un-miffed.


Being outside of the US, it's on Netflix.

So no extra money
 
2020-10-20 8:36:43 AM  

Confabulat: The exception doesn't prove the rule. For every good episode of TNG there are twenty ones that suck. Discovery is a better show, period.


At least TNG has had good shows.

Still waiting on Discovery to come up with a big idea that is Star Trek's bread and butter.
 
2020-10-20 8:40:34 AM  

MattytheMouse: Bring back M'ress, you cowards.
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Dude, you're farking fark treasure! <high five>
 
2020-10-20 8:45:33 AM  

physt: MattytheMouse: Bring back M'ress, you cowards.
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Dude, you're farking fark treasure! <high five>


I'm not. I'm just a normal mouse with an insatiable lust for cats.
 
2020-10-20 8:48:40 AM  

Ishkur: Confabulat: The exception doesn't prove the rule. For every good episode of TNG there are twenty ones that suck. Discovery is a better show, period.

At least TNG has had good shows.

Still waiting on Discovery to come up with a big idea that is Star Trek's bread and butter.


So a universe without a federation but still with people who hold onto those ideals, that's not big enough for you?
 
2020-10-20 8:49:55 AM  

Confabulat: August11: Confabulat: I've been watching old episodes of TNG on Pluto TV and that show is awful.  Discovery is so much better and so is TOS, and DS9. Picard and the gang have aged as well as Rick Astley.

"The Inner Light"; "Yesterday's Enterprise"; "Nth Degree" and a few others are the best tales that franchise will ever produce.

The exception doesn't prove the rule.  For every good episode of TNG there are twenty ones that suck.  Discovery is a better show, period.


Too early and no coffee: I should have put a disclaimer that you are probably right, however...

I left ST for SW a while ago. It was a combination of DS9's tediousness and the SW expanded universe introducing great characters.

That said, I grew up with Kirk as my moral compass and can quote more episodes than I want to reveal.
 
2020-10-20 8:50:15 AM  

MattytheMouse: Bring back M'ress, you cowards.
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She's on the Trident. (Well, at least in Peter David's version of Trek...)
 
2020-10-20 8:51:54 AM  

MattytheMouse: physt: MattytheMouse: Bring back M'ress, you cowards.
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Dude, you're farking fark treasure! <high five>

I'm not. I'm just a normal mouse with an insatiable lust for cats.


That's the toxoplasmosis talking.
 
2020-10-20 8:56:50 AM  

Confabulat: So a universe without a federation but still with people who hold onto those ideals, that's not big enough for you?


What ideals specifically, and what people hold onto them? The ones who get into fights and say fark all the time?

Keep in mind that TNG was 6 minutes -- six god damn minutes -- into its pilot episode when it put humanity on trial for being a grievously savage race. They had to spend the next 7 years proving they weren't.

How long did it take Discovery to get to a big idea like that?
 
2020-10-20 8:59:06 AM  
Star Trek Discovery - "This is the power of math, people" - Episode: Brother
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"This is the power of math people!" is the epitome of nutrek terribleness and where the it lost me forever. 

An officer on a spaceship exclaiming about the "power of math" to crewmates just makes me cringe. 

It's like being on a ship and being excited that the power of buoyancy saved the ship from sinking. You'd look like moron

It's Star Trek for the Idiocracy crowds.
 
2020-10-20 8:59:57 AM  
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2020-10-20 9:02:03 AM  

Ishkur: Confabulat: So a universe without a federation but still with people who hold onto those ideals, that's not big enough for you?

What ideals specifically, and what people hold onto them? The ones who get into fights and say fark all the time?

Keep in mind that TNG was 6 minutes -- six god damn minutes -- into its pilot episode when it put humanity on trial for being a grievously savage race. They had to spend the next 7 years proving they weren't.

How long did it take Discovery to get to a big idea like that?


6 minutes. Goddamn. That is a great point.

And the balls on those writers/producers for laying down that warrant in the pilot.

I need to go back and watch that.
 
2020-10-20 9:07:25 AM  

Tor_Eckman: We may look back on Discovery the same way someday.  Who knows.  But yeah, like you I love it.  I was miffed about it costing money.  But I am now un-miffed.


The "prestige TV" format ensures these modern Trek series succeed or fail on one or two focus characters and the overall season plot. If they make huge mistakes there (cough) then it'll be hard to find more than good scenes in them, or maybe one or two episodes that are less connected to the overall plot & feature different characters than the rest and also happen to be at least OK on their own. The episodic format is what saves shows like TNG.

/ Well, that and not having ten "executive producers".
 
2020-10-20 9:15:08 AM  

MattytheMouse: Bring back M'ress, you cowards.
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Meh. I'd be more impressed if someone brought anything from the Gerrold Universe back, specifically the Kzinti.
 
2020-10-20 9:18:20 AM  

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2020-10-20 9:21:18 AM  
The Mandalorean had an alien from the cantina scene from the first movie already.
 
2020-10-20 9:31:15 AM  

Bot v2.38beta: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/Gt6lclzh​Jsw?start=190]

"This is the power of math people!" is the epitome of nutrek terribleness and where the it lost me forever. 

An officer on a spaceship exclaiming about the "power of math" to crewmates just makes me cringe. 

It's like being on a ship and being excited that the power of buoyancy saved the ship from sinking. You'd look like moron

It's Star Trek for the Idiocracy crowds.


Brain and brain. What is brain?
 
2020-10-20 9:33:40 AM  

Confabulat: So a universe without a federation but still with people who hold onto those ideals, that's not big enough for you?


Actually, that scene had all kinds of creeper vibes to it.

A middle-aged man that was a true believer in something that didn't exist in either his or his father's life that he dutifully sat in an office, alone, day in and day out waiting for something to happen.

That is horrifying.
 
2020-10-20 9:34:20 AM  
I could honestly give half a fart about whatever obscure fanboi servicing they are doing with the species in the series; I just want a coherent plot. I heard the rumors and watched the pilot last night to see if it was true and yep, this is starting to absolutely look like Andromeda: the reboot. It's going to be a long 48 hours to wait for Part II to see if this show is ever going to get good.

Bot v2.38beta: "This is the power of math people!" is the epitome of nutrek terribleness and where the it lost me forever.

An officer on a spaceship exclaiming about the "power of math" to crewmates just makes me cringe.

It's like being on a ship and being excited that the power of buoyancy saved the ship from sinking. You'd look like moron

It's Star Trek for the Idiocracy crowds


Any time the show has catered to Fanboi servicing it has been thus, whether it be fanfic bullshiat homoerotica or even some concluded "resolution" to straight sexual tension plot lines. When you cave in to fan demands and put in pointless additions to meet some politically correct criteria you take away from the show. I don't care what show it is, creating inclusivity for the sole purpose of appeasing the crowds is just aiming for the lowest common denominator with that Mary Sue crap.
 
2020-10-20 9:38:27 AM  

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2020-10-20 9:39:21 AM  

thespindrifter: It's going to be a long 48 hours to wait for Part II to see if this show is ever going to get good.


Based on the trailer you already know what is going to happen. Michael has long braided hair when the rest of the crew return so we now know that she will spend years waiting for them (and learning everything about the modern era) so that she can go back to being Mary Sue.
 
2020-10-20 9:40:35 AM  

madgonad: Confabulat: So a universe without a federation but still with people who hold onto those ideals, that's not big enough for you?

Actually, that scene had all kinds of creeper vibes to it.

A middle-aged man that was a true believer in something that didn't exist in either his or his father's life that he dutifully sat in an office, alone, day in and day out waiting for something to happen.

That is horrifying.


How many times IRL has that exact same scenario played out? Scores I am sure, from English people thinking that the Empire Brittania will somehow magically rise from the ashes and once again circle the earth, to Japanese men on far-off Pacific islands still fighting the war 20+ years later (only to commit suicide when the hard truth is realized fully) to these modern day southern asshats who think that the Sawth will "rise again" which takes it to the negative extreme.

I would rather think that the poor dude was looking for something to believe in again, and had HOPE. That story has already been told a la "The Postman" but the principle remains the same: there will always be people who recognize that something great and worthy of their devotion has been lost, and that there may be others just like them out in the vast universe who are like-minded and also believe that the common good is better than selfish individualism that divides and destroys, and they hang on for the opportunity for such people to come together again and reunite and start over.
 
2020-10-20 9:40:59 AM  
 One of the Captains in the promo for STD before the show launched stated he wanted to be like Trump, and planned to yell some kind of idiocy when the ship went into warp that reflected as such.

Secondly, on giving the show a shot, it's rebranded Galactica. Someone decided to JJ things up past the point of any semblance of what the show's DNA. 

Space fungi.

If it lights you up and gives you what you need, hey, great. But it's not Trek. It's pantomime. Someone's idea of their completely different show wearing the props and uniforms as a weird form of disguise. 

LOL. Yeah, the comment above about 'Math' in a frigging starship says it all. 

Mushrooms in space.

Not a single episode has anchored itself like TNG has. As someone else stated, with the Premiere of TNG we got 6 minutes in before humanity was put on trial. STD is just that, a crappy case of space herpes.
 
2020-10-20 9:41:04 AM  

fallingcow: Tor_Eckman: We may look back on Discovery the same way someday.  Who knows.  But yeah, like you I love it.  I was miffed about it costing money.  But I am now un-miffed.

The "prestige TV" format ensures these modern Trek series succeed or fail on one or two focus characters and the overall season plot. If they make huge mistakes there (cough) then it'll be hard to find more than good scenes in them, or maybe one or two episodes that are less connected to the overall plot & feature different characters than the rest and also happen to be at least OK on their own. The episodic format is what saves shows like TNG.

/ Well, that and not having ten "executive producers".


I suppose you're correct.  I happen to really like the main characters so far, so I guess that's why I like the show so much.
 
2020-10-20 9:41:41 AM  

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2020-10-20 9:44:59 AM  

madgonad: thespindrifter: It's going to be a long 48 hours to wait for Part II to see if this show is ever going to get good.

Based on the trailer you already know what is going to happen. Michael has long braided hair when the rest of the crew return so we now know that she will spend years waiting for them (and learning everything about the modern era) so that she can go back to being Mary Sue.


I just want to know if the writers are blindly winging it the same way J.J. Abrams did with "Alias" and "Lost" and if the whole thing about the universe's Dilithium spontaneously detonating for no apparent reason will never be explained, or if there is actually a real story here. I hate Red Matter McGuffins!
 
2020-10-20 9:49:14 AM  

Znuh: Mushrooms in space.


Which despite being utterly ridiculous, is also simultaneously the most 'Trek' thing about this show. Star Trek TOS was always ludicrous when it went "far out", and it did Far Out a lot. Space gods. Parallel Evolution so ridiculous that whole planets not only had human civilizations but also looked exactly like earth from orbit. Go back and look at TOS again: it wasn't just Season 3 that had cringe worthy moments.
 
2020-10-20 9:49:44 AM  
Morn!
 
2020-10-20 9:50:32 AM  

Confabulat: I've been watching old episodes of TNG on Pluto TV and that show is awful.  Discovery is so much better and so is TOS, and DS9. Picard and the gang have aged as well as Rick Astley.


TNG could be a little dry.  The characters could sometimes have these flat emotionless responses to things.  I like Discovery but it seems to be drifting too far in the opposite direction.  Michael has these big tearful emotional moments that don't really fit the story.
 
2020-10-20 9:53:05 AM  

thespindrifter: How many times IRL has that exact same scenario played out?


It would be the equivalent to finding the middle aged grandchild of an English officer on some south Pacific island that is still waiting to be relieved by Her Majesty's Royal Navy. Which has never happened. We had Japanese holdouts more than two decades from the end of the war - but those were the original soliders.
 
2020-10-20 9:53:52 AM  

Xythero: Michael has these big tearful emotional moments that don't really fit the story.


Especially for someone that is supposed to act without emotion because, you know, raised as a Vulcan.
 
2020-10-20 9:57:28 AM  

MattytheMouse: Bring back M'ress, you cowards.
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Shouldn't she have six boobs?
 
2020-10-20 10:02:33 AM  

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And theresy.
 
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