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2020-10-19 9:50:23 PM  
Bullshiat FA is bullshiat. Will give no satisfaction. Happy now?
 
2020-10-19 9:57:19 PM  
They would feel better about it it were even slightly functional
 
2020-10-19 10:21:33 PM  
Has anyone mentioned we're a Republic not a Democracy yet?
 
2020-10-20 12:24:34 AM  
The study suggested that the populist challenge to mainstream, "establishment" politics could actually help improve democratic engagement by shocking moderate parties and leaders into reversing the decay.
 
2020-10-20 2:21:35 AM  
The kids can get off my lawn after they fark over the Zoomers.

Tradition, biatches!
 
2020-10-20 2:25:33 AM  
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2020-10-20 2:31:05 AM  
They're disillusioned about a system by the people, for the people, that only seems to care about the rich? I'm so baffled.
 
2020-10-20 2:31:58 AM  
Millenials?  Are those the lazy dumbf*cks who say they are going to vote in droves but are too busy playing console games to give a f*ck?  Oh, I know several million of those.  They are fairy stupid and expect the world to serve them.

Sad that they will be the reason that America dies, but they'll claim to be woke, and awake, but need naps because they're so f*cking lazy.

However, my kids are doing great because they have such an inferior set of people to compete against.
 
2020-10-20 2:34:19 AM  
Come back maybe next week
The country's on a losing streak
 
2020-10-20 2:35:55 AM  

jerryskid: Millenials?  Are those the lazy dumbf*cks who say they are going to vote in droves but are too busy playing console games to give a f*ck?  Oh, I know several million of those.  They are fairy stupid and expect the world to serve them.

Sad that they will be the reason that America dies, but they'll claim to be woke, and awake, but need naps because they're so f*cking lazy.

However, my kids are doing great because they have such an inferior set of people to compete against.


Younger people have never cared about elections until they turn 40. Because that is when their peers start running for office. Gen Z will be the same way, Gen Alpha will be the same way. You don't care about the system farking you until someone in your peer group, or yourself, decides "No, the farking will stop even if I have to do it myself."

So it has been in America, so it will continue to be.
 
2020-10-20 2:36:19 AM  

jerryskid: Millenials?  Are those the lazy dumbf*cks who say they are going to vote in droves but are too busy playing console games to give a f*ck?  Oh, I know several million of those.  They are fairy stupid and expect the world to serve them.

Sad that they will be the reason that America dies, but they'll claim to be woke, and awake, but need naps because they're so f*cking lazy.

However, my kids are doing great because they have such an inferior set of people to compete against.


Nice try, Boomer.
 
2020-10-20 2:38:10 AM  

BlueDWarrior: jerryskid: Millenials?  Are those the lazy dumbf*cks who say they are going to vote in droves but are too busy playing console games to give a f*ck?  Oh, I know several million of those.  They are fairy stupid and expect the world to serve them.

Sad that they will be the reason that America dies, but they'll claim to be woke, and awake, but need naps because they're so f*cking lazy.

However, my kids are doing great because they have such an inferior set of people to compete against.

Younger people have never cared about elections until they turn 40. Because that is when their peers start running for office. Gen Z will be the same way, Gen Alpha will be the same way. You don't care about the system farking you until someone in your peer group, or yourself, decides "No, the farking will stop even if I have to do it myself."

So it has been in America, so it will continue to be.


The problem is our politics are trending older...

Not just for the Presidency, but everywhere.

Young people don't vote, but when they actually try to engage in politics these days LARGELY they are shut out. Oddly enough, and thankfully enough, women seem to be an exception.
 
2020-10-20 2:38:53 AM  

ImpendingCynic: They're disillusioned about a system by the people, for the people, that only seems to care about the rich? I'm so baffled.


What they are being disllusioned by is the same thing that farks with my head anytime I see the difference between the premise of something, and what it actually looks like.

Everything seems nice and fine when you are studying the platonic ideal of it; but then you see what happens when flesh and blood people get their hands on it, and you see how it become hideously corrupt, and you just want to quit and not want anything else to do with it.

But then eventually, at different ages for different people, you realize that it's always been that way, and you get taught the platonic ideal because if schools actually taught you what was real, you'd be in a classroom until you were middle age; which is about the time when most people actually come to this realization on their own.

People are messy and illogical, but we ain't got no other choice. Either we deal with it as it comes, or we give up and accept what may come.
 
2020-10-20 2:41:19 AM  
Good, you idiots.

Maybe this time it will finally sink in that change cannot come from the top down, it must come from the bottom up; and it cannot happen in one election. It will take at minimum 20 to 50 years to dislodge the fecal impaction this bureaucracy has become.

It absolutely can and should be done. But stop imagining and falling for the okey-doke that it's gonna be a quick and easy fix. Or that you just have to wait till the Boomers die. Apathy and status quo are easy. Change is hard.
 
2020-10-20 2:41:50 AM  

puffy999: BlueDWarrior: jerryskid: Millenials?  Are those the lazy dumbf*cks who say they are going to vote in droves but are too busy playing console games to give a f*ck?  Oh, I know several million of those.  They are fairy stupid and expect the world to serve them.

Sad that they will be the reason that America dies, but they'll claim to be woke, and awake, but need naps because they're so f*cking lazy.

However, my kids are doing great because they have such an inferior set of people to compete against.

Younger people have never cared about elections until they turn 40. Because that is when their peers start running for office. Gen Z will be the same way, Gen Alpha will be the same way. You don't care about the system farking you until someone in your peer group, or yourself, decides "No, the farking will stop even if I have to do it myself."

So it has been in America, so it will continue to be.

The problem is our politics are trending older...

Not just for the Presidency, but everywhere.

Young people don't vote, but when they actually try to engage in politics these days LARGELY they are shut out. Oddly enough, and thankfully enough, women seem to be an exception.


To me, that's because it's still Boomer politicians because Gen X aren't being represented, either due to apathy or just from the fact they aren't that many of them. So you got Boomer politicians not being knocked out in primaries until it's late Xers or Millenials beating them.

But that's just how the system is, you win until you don't, and people aren't going to quit just from you telling them to, unless they are so tired they don't want to be farked, or they actually fear for their future safety or position.

So my admonition is the same as it always is: the struggle continues, it is eternal, make plans to fight until the day you draw your last breath, and inspire the ones coming after you to do the same.
 
2020-10-20 2:43:24 AM  
No, we love Democracy. We just wish that we could experience it.
 
2020-10-20 2:43:28 AM  

jerryskid: Millenials?  Are those the lazy dumbf*cks who say they are going to vote in droves but are too busy playing console games to give a f*ck?  Oh, I know several million of those.  They are fairy stupid and expect the world to serve them.

Sad that they will be the reason that America dies, but they'll claim to be woke, and awake, but need naps because they're so f*cking lazy.

However, my kids are doing great because they have such an inferior set of people to compete against.


don't forget that they refuse to show up to vote "Because they're not inspiring enough"

doesn't matter that that persons policies are an improvement on the status quo, they're not an improvement enough.

(I'm technically a millenial but i'm one of those early ones that many sociologists split off with the very late Xers into a microgeneration that doesnt' fit either)
 
2020-10-20 2:44:04 AM  
They probably meant to say capitalism
 
2020-10-20 2:44:09 AM  
It seems people are missing the take away message here. It's not that young people don't care it's that they feel their votes do not matter in the blistering hellscape which is 2020 when the worst possible fate has already been predetermined.
 
2020-10-20 2:48:52 AM  
All can be yours if you vote for me
 
2020-10-20 2:49:20 AM  
 
2020-10-20 2:53:09 AM  

jerryskid: Millenials?  Are those the lazy dumbf*cks who say they are going to vote in droves but are too busy playing console games to give a f*ck?  Oh, I know several million of those.  They are fairy stupid and expect the world to serve them.

Sad that they will be the reason that America dies, but they'll claim to be woke, and awake, but need naps because they're so f*cking lazy.

However, my kids are doing great because they have such an inferior set of people to compete against.


Gee, Boomer, which generation had everything handed to them?

FTAThe main reason behind the disillusion with democracy among young people was inequality of wealth and income, the report said, citing figures showing that Millennials make up around a quarter of the U.S. population but hold just 3% of the wealth. Baby Boomers held 21% of the wealth at the same age.
 
2020-10-20 2:59:15 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: jerryskid: Millenials?  Are those the lazy dumbf*cks who say they are going to vote in droves but are too busy playing console games to give a f*ck?  Oh, I know several million of those.  They are fairy stupid and expect the world to serve them.

Sad that they will be the reason that America dies, but they'll claim to be woke, and awake, but need naps because they're so f*cking lazy.

However, my kids are doing great because they have such an inferior set of people to compete against.

Nice try, Boomer.


I'm almost flattered someone still thinks I'm young.
 
2020-10-20 3:05:42 AM  
Is there a more attractive alternative?
 
2020-10-20 3:08:12 AM  

TomDooley: Has anyone mentioned we're a Republic not a Democracy yet?


Generally said by people who don't know the meaning of either. I never hear it repeated by anyone who says it with any form of context, and they all go radio silent when I ask where legitimate governments derive their powers from.

Never tell me that the Republicans aren't trying to eliminate the vote.
 
2020-10-20 3:13:24 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Nice try, Boomer.


MR. Boomer to you.
And stay off my lawn, unless you're mowing it.  In which case, don't expect a tip.  Better yet, expect a tip so I get a chance to disappoint you.
 
2020-10-20 3:13:37 AM  
Young people know a scam when they see it.
 
2020-10-20 3:13:54 AM  
I wonder why Millennials are so unenthusiastic about democracy. Could it possibly be that we've been told we're lazy, stupid, useless and unimportant by older generations?

Key statistics

"While your workers believe that business should consider stakeholders' interests as well as profits, their experience is of employers prioritizing the bottom line above workers, society and the environment, leaving them with little sense of loyalty," according to "The 2018 Deloitte Millennial Survey."

Note that the CEO's etc exploiting the workers aren't millennials, they're from a different generation.

And voting?

The process of casting your ballot can be complicated - especially for first time voters. Why does the US make voting so hard?

The system can be unreliable. Lina Tate, 20, registered for an absentee ballot in mid-February - but did not receive her ballot until 6 March - three days after Super Tuesday.

Millennials are lazy? No, 84% of Millennials can see through your lies.

A Harvard survey found that only 16% of those aged 18 to 29 agreed with the statement that "elected officials who are part of the Baby Boomer generation care about people like me."

In high school, politics isn't really discussed, so many young voters really are voting blind. If only there was some sort of generation that had power over schools and what they teach. Ah yes, I recall, the Boomers want the young to be uninformed - makes it easier to exploit them.
 
2020-10-20 3:18:21 AM  

jerryskid: Millenials?  Are those the lazy dumbf*cks who say they are going to vote in droves but are too busy playing console games to give a f*ck?  Oh, I know several million of those.  They are fairy stupid and expect the world to serve them.

Sad that they will be the reason that America dies, but they'll claim to be woke, and awake, but need naps because they're so f*cking lazy.

However, my kids are doing great because they have such an inferior set of people to compete against.


Are your kids in their 40s and 50s? The reason I ask is because the oldest millennial is in their late 30s by now..
/Ok boomer
 
2020-10-20 3:26:24 AM  

BlueDWarrior: To me, that's because it's still Boomer politicians because Gen X aren't being represented, either due to apathy or just from the fact they aren't that many of them. So you got Boomer politicians not being knocked out in primaries until it's late Xers or Millenials beating them


Forgetting politics, the US has a real cart-before-the-horse problem with how we use statistics and allow them to manipulate media, politics, entertainment, etc.

"Old people vote" and "old people identify with old people" means old people are nominated, endorsed, and given the air time.

But look at music. Country is 70s pop rock. Rock is elevator pop. Hip hop is dance pop. And it's been this way going on 25 years in some genres because "it sells". It sells because nothing else is offered in mainstream except in Apple commercials.
 
2020-10-20 3:27:45 AM  
LUCKILY at least as far as politics are concerned we're gonna be okay in 30 years if we last that long.
 
2020-10-20 3:40:21 AM  

jerryskid: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Nice try, Boomer.

MR. Boomer to you.
And stay off my lawn, unless you're mowing it.  In which case, don't expect a tip.  Better yet, expect a tip so I get a chance to disappoint you.


I don't need your money, you farking geezer. Keep it for the old age home.
 
2020-10-20 3:42:11 AM  
If you want to experience democracy, get out there and vote the issues that matter to you, yes, but...
...you also need to vote for people who care about the future of the country, it's constitution, and understand the importance of compromise. If you just sit around devising new labels for people you don't like, then you're just an easy target for politicians that want to vote based on your two minutes of hate every day.  A democracy can't function in such a polarized society.
 
2020-10-20 3:49:01 AM  
Millennials get little satisfaction from democracy: Cambridge study

fixxorated
 
2020-10-20 3:54:25 AM  
Another aspect of this situation is student loans.
The heavy reliance on government guaranteed student loans has led to massive increases in tuition due to tuition inflation and a concomitant increase in debt among 25 to 40 year olds.
This is an example of a massive government intervention gone wrong.  There has been a massive transfer of wealth from  the middle class to colleges and universities.
 
2020-10-20 4:07:43 AM  

Animatronik: Another aspect of this situation is student loans.
The heavy reliance on government guaranteed student loans has led to massive increases in tuition due to tuition inflation and a concomitant increase in debt among 25 to 40 year olds.
This is an example of a massive government intervention gone wrong.  There has been a massive transfer of wealth from  the middle class to colleges and universities.


Your ideas intrigue me, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
 
2020-10-20 4:09:34 AM  
I'd like to think that satisfaction would require confidence in the process. How long has been spent eroding that confidence in just the past four years? Not even getting into the "hanging chad" business of the decade prior.

Gerrymandered districts, census farkery, farking with the USPS, calling absentee ballots ripe for fraud, spending years biatching about and loudly investigating voter fraud where it simply did not exist, encouraging voter fraud to happen, headlines to the tune of "WHAT IF HERR DINGDONG JUST PULLED AN UNO REVERSE CARD AFTER LOSING?", and extremely reduced faith in the EC accomplishing much of anything...

Yeah, farking bet I vote anyway, but my optimism is miles behind me.
 
2020-10-20 4:10:56 AM  
Well, it really doesn't help that the highest paid employees in almost every state are sports ball coaches. Or some other college administrator or employee.

There is a racket somewhere. It's not the professors or necessarily programs benefiting from this money.
 
2020-10-20 4:12:30 AM  

Nullav: I'd like to think that satisfaction would require confidence in the process. How long has been spent eroding that confidence in just the past four years? Not even getting into the "hanging chad" business of the decade prior.

Gerrymandered districts, census farkery, farking with the USPS, calling absentee ballots ripe for fraud, spending years biatching about and loudly investigating voter fraud where it simply did not exist, encouraging voter fraud to happen, headlines to the tune of "WHAT IF HERR DINGDONG JUST PULLED AN UNO REVERSE CARD AFTER LOSING?", and extremely reduced faith in the EC accomplishing much of anything...

Yeah, farking bet I vote anyway, but my optimism is miles behind me.


Hey now, don't forget SuperLiberal Justass Roberts deciding there's no need for the Voting Rights Act to have teeth. After all, we're post racism and all hunky dory like.
 
2020-10-20 4:17:27 AM  
Gosh, I wonder why Millennials are so unhappy with democracy.

*click*

fta: "The main reason behind the disillusion with democracy among young people was inequality of wealth and income, the report said, citing figures showing that Millennials make up around a quarter of the U.S. population but hold just 3% of the wealth."

Well, yeah. That is definitely a thing.

Death of the American Dream of upward social mobility and the reality of a government that wages war on the working classes to the benefit of the investment class of 1%ers is a bummer to be sure.

Hence the popularity of Bernie among the disillusioned Millennials.

But rage and discontent that doesn't transition into political engagement is pointless pouting more than anything.
 
2020-10-20 4:18:36 AM  

quatchi: Death of the American Dream of upward social mobility and the reality of a government that wages war on the working classes to the benefit of the investment class of 1%ers is a bummer to be sure


There is also a very REAL hoarding problem with elder generations.
 
2020-10-20 4:41:47 AM  

Animatronik: If you want to experience democracy, get out there and vote the issues that matter to you, yes, but...
...you also need to vote for people who care about the future of the country, it's constitution, and understand the importance of compromise. If you just sit around devising new labels for people you don't like, then you're just an easy target for politicians that want to vote based on your two minutes of hate every day.  A democracy can't function in such a polarized society.


It sucks when I agree with you, but I totally agree with you.
 
2020-10-20 6:17:38 AM  
Meanwhile, GenX is dissatisfied with everything, because f*ck you, that's why.
 
2020-10-20 6:53:02 AM  
Boomers: "We have set up the economy to extract all wealth and labour from you and give it to enormous corporations. You will be indebted forever and will never enjoy the financial stability and security we do."

Millennials: "I don't want that."

Boomers: "Too bad, that's called capitalism."

Millennials: "Okay, well I want something else."

Boomers: "Okay, let's vote on it. We've got a system set up where your vote for President doesn't matter unless you live in a handful of swing states, your vote for Senator doesn't matter unless you live in a rural state with low population, and your vote for the House of Representatives doesn't matter unless you live in a state we haven't gerrymandered yet."

Millennials: "Uh, I don't want that either."

Boomers: "Too bad, that's called democracy."

...

Media: "Why don't Millennials love capitalism and democracy????"
 
2020-10-20 7:04:21 AM  

puffy999: BlueDWarrior: jerryskid: Millenials?  Are those the lazy dumbf*cks who say they are going to vote in droves but are too busy playing console games to give a f*ck?  Oh, I know several million of those.  They are fairy stupid and expect the world to serve them.

Sad that they will be the reason that America dies, but they'll claim to be woke, and awake, but need naps because they're so f*cking lazy.

However, my kids are doing great because they have such an inferior set of people to compete against.

Younger people have never cared about elections until they turn 40. Because that is when their peers start running for office. Gen Z will be the same way, Gen Alpha will be the same way. You don't care about the system farking you until someone in your peer group, or yourself, decides "No, the farking will stop even if I have to do it myself."

So it has been in America, so it will continue to be.

The problem is our politics are trending older...

Not just for the Presidency, but everywhere.

Young people don't vote, but when they actually try to engage in politics these days LARGELY they are shut out. Oddly enough, and thankfully enough, women seem to be an exception.


Welcome to the real world, where you don't get a trophy just for trying to engage.
 
2020-10-20 7:06:04 AM  

berylman: It seems people are missing the take away message here. It's not that young people don't care it's that they feel their votes do not matter in the blistering hellscape which is 2020 when the worst possible fate has already been predetermined.


Their vote counts exactly the same as everyone else. Should it be treated differently or something?
 
2020-10-20 7:10:47 AM  

pkjun: Boomers: "We have set up the economy to extract all wealth and labour from you and give it to enormous corporations. You will be indebted forever and will never enjoy the financial stability and security we do."

Millennials: "I don't want that."

Boomers: "Too bad, that's called capitalism."

Millennials: "Okay, well I want something else."

Boomers: "Okay, let's vote on it. We've got a system set up where your vote for President doesn't matter unless you live in a handful of swing states, your vote for Senator doesn't matter unless you live in a rural state with low population, and your vote for the House of Representatives doesn't matter unless you live in a state we haven't gerrymandered yet."

Millennials: "Uh, I don't want that either."

Boomers: "Too bad, that's called democracy."

...

Media: "Why don't Millennials love capitalism and democracy????"


Then you have three options. One, you can move. Two, you can work to change it (problem: no one has ever claimed it will be easy or quick, so don't delude yourself). Three, you can give up and biatch on the Internet.

It is clear you have chosen number 3, so why don't you sit down and shut the fark up so the people who actually want to try and work to make this country a better place can get on with it without you trying to sabotage them every chance you get?
 
2020-10-20 7:23:37 AM  
That's one of my favorite DEVO songs!
 
2020-10-20 7:32:45 AM  
Is this the thread where a bunch of miserable ass holes blame kids for being dicked so hard of their future 20 years before they were even born? Then told they had better vote D to keep kicking the can down the road as the Republican government strip mines tax payer cash to pay for wars of choice, corporate bailouts every ten years, and rewards them for stealing their future with low paying jobs, environmental killing regulations, and mountains of exploding student loan debt that has outstripped the average wage of a college education, and is now working on stripping them of their social security. Then, when they vote for progressive candidates who want to address the issues they hold important get called lazy idiots when the system is rigged against their wishes and have their voices marginalized, and they drop out as they become disenfranchised as the olds shiat on them for expressing their needs ahead of their elders after ripping them of their choice in a candidate in not one, but two elections, and suddenly are to blame for not being more engaged? Is that what this thread is?
 
2020-10-20 7:40:55 AM  

foo monkey: Meanwhile, GenX is dissatisfied with everything, because f*ck you, that's why.


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