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2020-10-19 10:52:56 PM  
Hello 401k manager, sell
short on dog food!
/Economic genius
 
2020-10-20 12:37:33 AM  
There are plenty of pros here, and some amateurs who do a respectable jerb as well. If anyone is suffering from turkey anxiety we'll be happy to bury you in suggestions.

Never thought about the big birds thing though.
 
2020-10-20 12:41:21 AM  
Man, I'll gladly cook up a big ol' bird for the two of us and live off it for a week, if that'd help. Turkeyholic

So long as those damned Bumpusses dogs don't eat it. Sunsabiatches
 
2020-10-20 1:05:51 AM  
Kill em all

Let god sort em out
 
2020-10-20 1:14:34 AM  
We've "boycotted" traditional Thanksgiving since Trump's win (mostly as a joke but also because we aren't that enamored with American holiday food).  We get together, make dishes celebrating countries or cultures that Trump has farked over or insulted, and had a great time picking the dishes.  We've had soul food, Korean food, Mexican food, a Colin Kaepernick cake, rainbow cookies, etc, etc.  Really we just wanted to cook new dishes and used Trump as a way to make down our choices.  Mostly fun.

I would actually like to keep doing this international theme, but we've decided if Biden wins we are going all-out traditional.  Disgusting green bean casserole made with canned ingredients, canned cranberry sauce, that sweet potato dish that inexplicably has marshmallows on it, but we will get a deep fryer so the turkey will at least be good.  Maybe get two turkeys and make some lunch meat.

Dear not farmers, of Biden wins, we are going all out.
 
2020-10-20 1:19:20 AM  

rga184: We've "boycotted" traditional Thanksgiving since Trump's win (mostly as a joke but also because we aren't that enamored with American holiday food).  We get together, make dishes celebrating countries or cultures that Trump has farked over or insulted, and had a great time picking the dishes.  We've had soul food, Korean food, Mexican food, a Colin Kaepernick cake, rainbow cookies, etc, etc.  Really we just wanted to cook new dishes and used Trump as a way to make down our choices.  Mostly fun.

I would actually like to keep doing this international theme, but we've decided if Biden wins we are going all-out traditional.  Disgusting green bean casserole made with canned ingredients, canned cranberry sauce, that sweet potato dish that inexplicably has marshmallows on it, but we will get a deep fryer so the turkey will at least be good.  Maybe get two turkeys and make some lunch meat.

Dear not farmers, of Biden wins, we are going all out.


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Our CK cake from 2017.
 
2020-10-20 1:41:11 AM  
Last year I bought four big ole turkeys a few days after T-day for dimes on the dollar. The stores were selling them for anywhere from .10 to .29 per lb. Had lunch meat, dog food, and stock until late March. I'm already eating down the freezer to do it again this year. Bring on the birds!
 
2020-10-20 1:41:42 AM  

rga184: We've "boycotted" traditional Thanksgiving since Trump's win (mostly as a joke but also because we aren't that enamored with American holiday food).  We get together, make dishes celebrating countries or cultures that Trump has farked over or insulted, and had a great time picking the dishes.  We've had soul food, Korean food, Mexican food, a Colin Kaepernick cake, rainbow cookies, etc, etc.  Really we just wanted to cook new dishes and used Trump as a way to make down our choices.  Mostly fun.

I would actually like to keep doing this international theme, but we've decided if Biden wins we are going all-out traditional.  Disgusting green bean casserole made with canned ingredients, canned cranberry sauce, that sweet potato dish that inexplicably has marshmallows on it, but we will get a deep fryer so the turkey will at least be good.  Maybe get two turkeys and make some lunch meat.

Dear not farmers, of Biden wins, we are going all out.


For better sweet potatoes:

Mix up the cooked sweet potato "meat" with crushed pineapple, brown sugar, and spices (cloves, nutmeg, cinnamon, ginger, plus a teensy amount of salt,, etc) and fresh squeezed orange juice.   Grease the empty 1/2 orange rinds from the juicing with butter or clean olive oil.

Spoon the sweetened n spiced sweet potato mix into the empty rinds.  Top with ti y marshmallows or a dollop of cranberry sauce and bake until the tops are just crisped.

Delicious, but greasing the orange rinds is critical.  It keeps the white pith from bittering up the dish.
 
2020-10-20 2:07:34 AM  

Bonzo_1116: rga184: We've "boycotted" traditional Thanksgiving since Trump's win (mostly as a joke but also because we aren't that enamored with American holiday food).  We get together, make dishes celebrating countries or cultures that Trump has farked over or insulted, and had a great time picking the dishes.  We've had soul food, Korean food, Mexican food, a Colin Kaepernick cake, rainbow cookies, etc, etc.  Really we just wanted to cook new dishes and used Trump as a way to make down our choices.  Mostly fun.

I would actually like to keep doing this international theme, but we've decided if Biden wins we are going all-out traditional.  Disgusting green bean casserole made with canned ingredients, canned cranberry sauce, that sweet potato dish that inexplicably has marshmallows on it, but we will get a deep fryer so the turkey will at least be good.  Maybe get two turkeys and make some lunch meat.

Dear not farmers, of Biden wins, we are going all out.

For better sweet potatoes:

Mix up the cooked sweet potato "meat" with crushed pineapple, brown sugar, and spices (cloves, nutmeg, cinnamon, ginger, plus a teensy amount of salt,, etc) and fresh squeezed orange juice.   Grease the empty 1/2 orange rinds from the juicing with butter or clean olive oil.

Spoon the sweetened n spiced sweet potato mix into the empty rinds.  Top with ti y marshmallows or a dollop of cranberry sauce and bake until the tops are just crisped.

Delicious, but greasing the orange rinds is critical.  It keeps the white pith from bittering up the dish.


That sounds like a dessert.  A very heavy dessert topped with sticky, cloying candy made out of animal parts.

You gotta understand, my friends and I are all from different countries.  To give you an idea of the culture clash, italians don't even have a real translation for marshmallow.  The only word that exists for it in italian came from the guy that was translating Peanut cartoons to Italian, and when a strip had Woodstock and Snoopy go camping and roasting marshmallows, the translator just invented a word (tofolette).  So my friend basically not only doesn't have a word for the crap on top of the sweet potatoes, he insists that word doesn't exist because no good Sicilian would ever ask for that.  And to be fair, if you've ever eaten sweets made by good Sicilians, you'd understand why.

Truth is, a traditional Thanksgiving meal if Biden wins will be the same type of celebration as that Farker who said he would blow everybody in Fark if Trump got arrested: celebrating by putting digusting things in my mouth.
 
2020-10-20 2:09:57 AM  

rga184: Bonzo_1116: rga184: We've "boycotted" traditional Thanksgiving since Trump's win (mostly as a joke but also because we aren't that enamored with American holiday food).  We get together, make dishes celebrating countries or cultures that Trump has farked over or insulted, and had a great time picking the dishes.  We've had soul food, Korean food, Mexican food, a Colin Kaepernick cake, rainbow cookies, etc, etc.  Really we just wanted to cook new dishes and used Trump as a way to make down our choices.  Mostly fun.

I would actually like to keep doing this international theme, but we've decided if Biden wins we are going all-out traditional.  Disgusting green bean casserole made with canned ingredients, canned cranberry sauce, that sweet potato dish that inexplicably has marshmallows on it, but we will get a deep fryer so the turkey will at least be good.  Maybe get two turkeys and make some lunch meat.

Dear not farmers, of Biden wins, we are going all out.

For better sweet potatoes:

Mix up the cooked sweet potato "meat" with crushed pineapple, brown sugar, and spices (cloves, nutmeg, cinnamon, ginger, plus a teensy amount of salt,, etc) and fresh squeezed orange juice.   Grease the empty 1/2 orange rinds from the juicing with butter or clean olive oil.

Spoon the sweetened n spiced sweet potato mix into the empty rinds.  Top with ti y marshmallows or a dollop of cranberry sauce and bake until the tops are just crisped.

Delicious, but greasing the orange rinds is critical.  It keeps the white pith from bittering up the dish.

That sounds like a dessert.  A very heavy dessert topped with sticky, cloying candy made out of animal parts.

You gotta understand, my friends and I are all from different countries.  To give you an idea of the culture clash, italians don't even have a real translation for marshmallow.  The only word that exists for it in italian came from the guy that was translating Peanut cartoons to Italian, and when a strip had Woodstock and Snoopy go camping and roasting marshmallows, the translator just invented a word (tofolette).  So my friend basically not only doesn't have a word for the crap on top of the sweet potatoes, he insists that word doesn't exist because no good Sicilian would ever ask for that.  And to be fair, if you've ever eaten sweets made by good Sicilians, you'd understand why.

Truth is, a traditional Thanksgiving meal if Biden wins will be the same type of celebration as that Farker who said he would blow everybody in Fark if Trump got arrested: celebrating by putting digusting things in my mouth.


Sorry, most of this is over the top snark.  It's not really disgusting, but it really isn't a delicious meal for us either.  We ate it more out of respect to tradition to our new country than anything else.  We just needed an excuse to get together and eat something else, and Trump winning presented a theme for us to explore world cousins with.
 
2020-10-20 5:59:00 AM  

rga184: We've "boycotted" traditional Thanksgiving since Trump's win (mostly as a joke but also because we aren't that enamored with American holiday food).  We get together, make dishes celebrating countries or cultures that Trump has farked over or insulted, and had a great time picking the dishes.  We've had soul food, Korean food, Mexican food, a Colin Kaepernick cake, rainbow cookies, etc, etc.  Really we just wanted to cook new dishes and used Trump as a way to make down our choices.  Mostly fun.

I would actually like to keep doing this international theme, but we've decided if Biden wins we are going all-out traditional.  Disgusting green bean casserole made with canned ingredients, canned cranberry sauce, that sweet potato dish that inexplicably has marshmallows on it, but we will get a deep fryer so the turkey will at least be good.  Maybe get two turkeys and make some lunch meat.

Dear not farmers, of Biden wins, we are going all out.


Bizarre hill to die on, but whatevs.
 
2020-10-20 8:40:04 AM  
The difference in effort to cook a large turkey vs a small one is negligible.  Even though it's just my wife and I this year, I'll still get the largest turkey I can find.  If there's freezer space, I'll get two.
 
2020-10-20 8:43:50 AM  
You're better off breaking down the turkey and cooking it piecemeal. You get the breast meat to set up for a roast/ lunchmeats, wings and leg quarters to braise, and the back for stock.  You just have to butcher the bird yourself.
 
2020-10-20 9:04:16 AM  

rga184: Our CK cake from 2017.


that. cake. is. farking. amazeballs.
 
2020-10-20 10:17:44 AM  
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What's more Caribbean American than pavo barbacoa?
 
2020-10-20 10:22:20 AM  

natazha: The difference in effort to cook a large turkey vs a small one is negligible.  Even though it's just my wife and I this year, I'll still get the largest turkey I can find.  If there's freezer space, I'll get two.


the effort  is not the question the amount of food is, Many folks just having a small Turkey day dinner with the immediate family are not going to want a huge bird.
 
2020-10-20 10:52:36 AM  

bfh0417: rga184: We've "boycotted" traditional Thanksgiving since Trump's win (mostly as a joke but also because we aren't that enamored with American holiday food).  We get together, make dishes celebrating countries or cultures that Trump has farked over or insulted, and had a great time picking the dishes.  We've had soul food, Korean food, Mexican food, a Colin Kaepernick cake, rainbow cookies, etc, etc.  Really we just wanted to cook new dishes and used Trump as a way to make down our choices.  Mostly fun.

I would actually like to keep doing this international theme, but we've decided if Biden wins we are going all-out traditional.  Disgusting green bean casserole made with canned ingredients, canned cranberry sauce, that sweet potato dish that inexplicably has marshmallows on it, but we will get a deep fryer so the turkey will at least be good.  Maybe get two turkeys and make some lunch meat.

Dear not farmers, of Biden wins, we are going all out.

Bizarre hill to die on, but whatevs.


Not a hill to die on at all.  We needed the excuse to get together but have different food.  It's more of a joke at this point than anything else.  Food-wise, it's been the best Thanksgivings I've had.  And it's fun to put the menu together based on news items.
 
2020-10-20 10:59:42 AM  

tintar: rga184: Our CK cake from 2017.

that. cake. is. farking. amazeballs.


Thanks!  Pro tip: Fondant is silly putty for grown-ups.  I actually don't like the taste, but it makes for fun cakes.

Here's I think,
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the peak of our fondanting prowess.  We were never able to top my son's fifth birthday.
 
2020-10-20 11:08:35 AM  
Looking like a white chili winter is coming 'round...
 
2020-10-20 11:10:25 AM  

rga184: tintar: rga184: Our CK cake from 2017.

that. cake. is. farking. amazeballs.

Thanks!  Pro tip: Fondant is silly putty for grown-ups.  I actually don't like the taste, but it makes for fun cakes.

Here's I think,[Fark user image 425x577] the peak of our fondanting prowess.  We were never able to top my son's fifth birthday.


I was commenting purely about the theme; but kudos on the craftsmanship and also the SW one looks like much effort+fun!
 
2020-10-20 11:29:50 AM  
Got me a nice chest freezer. Will happily cook one for Thanksgiving and save 2-4 more to roast or smoke over winter. Love turkey.
 
2020-10-20 12:00:30 PM  
Paywalled, so can't read the article, so instead a story related to what I suspect it's about, and some cooking tips:

A few years back, by step-father had ordered a fresh (unfrozen) turkey from one of the Amish farms an hour or so from his house.  I don't remember what size he had requested, but he was late in making the pickup (only the day before thanksgiving), and so when the got there, the farmer told him there weren't any of the size that he had ordeered left, and he didn't think that he'd like what was available so offered to refund his money.  The turkey he brought back was *huge*.  I don't remember the exact weight (50lb?  60lb?)  It wouldn't have even fit in my home oven as-is.  It barely fit into his smoker ... which was how he planned on cooking it.  But he hadn't planned on the size ... so he put it in the smoker that night, thinking he wasn't going to have enough time to cook it on the day of, as he had planned.

He was out there in the cold checking it regularly, and it was done by 2am, way earlier than he expected.  (Cooking times per pound are regularly wrong as you get to large items, but I suspect that it was also that it hadn't been very cold going in).  I don't remember what we did to hold it ... probably aluminum foil, a few towels, and then into a cooler.  This might've been the year when the folks visiting from out of town didn't even come down to dinner ... because his daughter's family is mormon, and their son was away on his mission, and had called just as we were about to eat, so they were all talking to him.

If you get stuck with something that large, I'd recommend that you spatchcock it, split it in half, and put it on a couple of sheet trays.  It might even be worth putting the two breasts on one tray (if they fit), and the legs and wings on another, so that you can pull either one when they hit the right temperature.  If you're concerned about getting sides cooked, if you have sufficient oven height to work with, you can put the turkey parts on top of a bed of vegetables (potatoes, carrots, bell peppers, onions, etc.) and roast them all together, rather than using some sort of a rack.

If that still isn't enough space, I'd roast half the turkey, and then poach the other half stove-top.  (Boil some water, maybe salt it or add some sad vegetables, add the meat, bring back to a boil, then slap a lid on it, turn the heat to low, and leave it for an hour or two),   Once poached, you can either dice up or shred the meat, and then freeze it in manageable portions.  You can then reheat it and use it for casseroles, tacos, chili, hash, etc.

And save the poaching liquid  Collect up the bones, skin, backbone that got cut out, cartilage and whatever else, and toss it back into the pot.  Once you have dinner, take whatever other bones people didn't get served to people, and toss those in, too, and let it simmer to make some good stock.
 
2020-10-20 12:01:38 PM  

GregInIndy: Got me a nice chest freezer. Will happily cook one for Thanksgiving and save 2-4 more to roast or smoke over winter. Love turkey.


Dis. If you separate the turkey, leave the wings attached to the breast and smoke the white meat. The smoked wings and backbone are awesome in soups.
 
2020-10-20 12:13:02 PM  

rga184: Bonzo_1116: rga184:

Wall of negativity regarding politics and Thanksgiving dinner


rga184, I think you should see if you can find a decent restaurant or food kitchen that will serve you a real Thanksgiving dinner in the traditional style.  With your attitude, you're not going to pull it off.
 
2020-10-20 12:14:09 PM  

rga184: tintar: rga184: Our CK cake from 2017.

that. cake. is. farking. amazeballs.

Thanks!  Pro tip: Fondant is silly putty for grown-ups.  I actually don't like the taste, but it makes for fun cakes.

Here's I think,[Fark user image 425x577] the peak of our fondanting prowess.  We were never able to top my son's fifth birthday.


There's a Canadian woman who has a youtube series "How to Cake It" who does some amazing work.  Here's her take on roast turkey:

How To Make a Juicy THANKSGIVING TURKEY out of CAKE | Yolanda Gampp | How To Cake It
Youtube PXzue3aU3WY
 
2020-10-20 12:55:09 PM  
Not clicking but heard about this "problem" a few weeks ago.

If a whole turkey fits in your oven, it's not a problem. Just more leftovers, which is apparently what many people are after, anyway.

If it's too big to fit, cut it into pieces.

This isn't hard.
 
2020-10-20 1:00:00 PM  

ski9600: rga184: Bonzo_1116: rga184:

Wall of negativity regarding politics and Thanksgiving dinner

rga184, I think you should see if you can find a decent restaurant or food kitchen that will serve you a real Thanksgiving dinner in the traditional style.  With your attitude, you're not going to pull it off.


The most common veggie dish on Thanksgiving is a casserole that people make with Campbell's soup and top with crispy fried onions out of a plastic container.  The other vegetable dish is topped with marshmallows.  No amount of cooking skill will make that appetizing to anybody that grew up eating rajas con queso or huitlacoche quesadillas.

I will say pumpkin pie and apple pie made with granny smith apples are perhaps my number one and number two favorite desserts.  So there's that.  I wish my wife and I could have had wedding pumpkin pie instead of wedding cake.

\ surprised none of you guys have called me on the fact fondant is made with marshmallows!    ;D
 
2020-10-20 1:02:24 PM  

Oneiros: rga184: tintar: rga184: Our CK cake from 2017.

that. cake. is. farking. amazeballs.

Thanks!  Pro tip: Fondant is silly putty for grown-ups.  I actually don't like the taste, but it makes for fun cakes.

Here's I think,[Fark user image 425x577] the peak of our fondanting prowess.  We were never able to top my son's fifth birthday.

There's a Canadian woman who has a youtube series "How to Cake It" who does some amazing work.  Here's her take on roast turkey:

[YouTube video: How To Make a Juicy THANKSGIVING TURKEY out of CAKE | Yolanda Gampp | How To Cake It]


Oh man, that lady is fun to watch.  I may have found a new youtube rabbit hole to fall into.  Thanks!

\ my current rabbit hole is videos made by traffic engineers.  So this will be a step up.
 
2020-10-20 1:06:26 PM  
Alton Brown got it right...dry brine for 4 days, then the turkey roasts in about an hour.
15 lb turkey, spatchcocked
1/4 cup kosher salt
1.5 tsp each thyme, sage, black peppercorns
Combine dry ingredients then rub throughly over the turkey. Put it on a tray, uncovered in the refrigerator for four days.

To roast: oven at 425. Let turkey come to room temperature for about 1 hour. Roast turkey at 425 for 30 minutes, then baste and turn to 350 for another 40 minutes or so. Let sit for 30 minutes after roasting.

I did this for a large family gathering at my house. The turkey was great, but the best part was that it occupied my oven for only little more than an hour. On a day when 25 people are coming over, I had multiple dishes that needed oven time, and doing it this way opened up the oven for several needed hours.
 
2020-10-20 2:17:37 PM  
rga184: \ my current rabbit hole is videos made by traffic engineers.  So this will be a step up.

Traffic engineers?  Are you willing to share?

(I have a civil engineering degree that I've done nothing with professionally (other than occasionally building shelves for telco hardware, or figuring out how to move racks of servers))

Personally, I just started watching season two of Food Wars, as Netflix just got it.  It's anime food porn, and not kidding on the porn part -- lots of large breasted women, who get drawn as orgasming naked when they eat really good food.  But there's actually a *lot* of cooking tips buried in it.  The episode I just watched talked about mixing foods with inosinic acid (like aged fish) with those with glutamic acid (in seaweed) for increased perception of "umami".
 
2020-10-20 2:50:32 PM  
This is easily solved with the tradition of "Turkey Bowling"
 
2020-10-20 3:17:00 PM  

Schlubbe: Man, I'll gladly cook up a big ol' bird for the two of us and live off it for a week, if that'd help. Turkeyholic


Modern turkeys go rancid by the 3rd day. We won't even eat them the 2nd day and send leftovers home with guests.  That whole litany of dishes that the Father goes through in A Christmas Story? Not anymore. Foul fowl.
 
2020-10-20 3:37:03 PM  

rga184: ski9600: rga184: Bonzo_1116: rga184:

Wall of negativity regarding politics and Thanksgiving dinner

rga184, I think you should see if you can find a decent restaurant or food kitchen that will serve you a real Thanksgiving dinner in the traditional style.  With your attitude, you're not going to pull it off.

The most common veggie dish on Thanksgiving is a casserole that people make with Campbell's soup and top with crispy fried onions out of a plastic container.  The other vegetable dish is topped with marshmallows.  No amount of cooking skill will make that appetizing to anybody that grew up eating rajas con queso or huitlacoche quesadillas.

I will say pumpkin pie and apple pie made with granny smith apples are perhaps my number one and number two favorite desserts.  So there's that.  I wish my wife and I could have had wedding pumpkin pie instead of wedding cake.

\ surprised none of you guys have called me on the fact fondant is made with marshmallows!    ;D


Dude, wha? The best veggie side is mashed potatoes.
 
2020-10-20 11:37:19 PM  

rga184: ski9600: rga184: Bonzo_1116: rga184:

Wall of negativity regarding politics and Thanksgiving dinner

rga184, I think you should see if you can find a decent restaurant or food kitchen that will serve you a real Thanksgiving dinner in the traditional style.  With your attitude, you're not going to pull it off.

The most common veggie dish on Thanksgiving is a casserole that people make with Campbell's soup and top with crispy fried onions out of a plastic container.  The other vegetable dish is topped with marshmallows.  No amount of cooking skill will make that appetizing to anybody that grew up eating rajas con queso or huitlacoche quesadillas.

I will say pumpkin pie and apple pie made with granny smith apples are perhaps my number one and number two favorite desserts.  So there's that.  I wish my wife and I could have had wedding pumpkin pie instead of wedding cake.

\ surprised none of you guys have called me on the fact fondant is made with marshmallows!    ;D


Keep an open mind about the sweet potatoes.  The recipe in question is from my grandma in WWII Hawaii.  It's not the overly sweet slop you've normally had.  Depending on your sweet potatoes, you never add any additional sugar beyond the orange juice and pineapple.

The best prep is the one with cranberries on top, where the tartness plays off against the pineapple&sweet potato.  Think of it like the ever present limes in Mexican cuisine....cranberries and oranges out of season do that job.
 
2020-10-20 11:41:18 PM  

Bonzo_1116: rga184: ski9600: rga184: Bonzo_1116: rga184:

Wall of negativity regarding politics and Thanksgiving dinner

rga184, I think you should see if you can find a decent restaurant or food kitchen that will serve you a real Thanksgiving dinner in the traditional style.  With your attitude, you're not going to pull it off.

The most common veggie dish on Thanksgiving is a casserole that people make with Campbell's soup and top with crispy fried onions out of a plastic container.  The other vegetable dish is topped with marshmallows.  No amount of cooking skill will make that appetizing to anybody that grew up eating rajas con queso or huitlacoche quesadillas.

I will say pumpkin pie and apple pie made with granny smith apples are perhaps my number one and number two favorite desserts.  So there's that.  I wish my wife and I could have had wedding pumpkin pie instead of wedding cake.

\ surprised none of you guys have called me on the fact fondant is made with marshmallows!    ;D

Keep an open mind about the sweet potatoes.  The recipe in question is from my grandma in WWII Hawaii.  It's not the overly sweet slop you've normally had.  Depending on your sweet potatoes, you never add any additional sugar beyond the orange juice and pineapple.

The best prep is the one with cranberries on top, where the tartness plays off against the pineapple&sweet potato.  Think of it like the ever present limes in Mexican cuisine....cranberries and oranges out of season do that job.


And for the record the best Thanksgiving turkey I ever ate was one with a soy sauce glaze and sweet rice stuffing with Chinese sausage courtesy of a college roomie's mom.

She absolutely owned that turkey.  Sooooo good.
 
2020-10-21 12:46:59 AM  

Oneiros: rga184: \ my current rabbit hole is videos made by traffic engineers.  So this will be a step up.

Traffic engineers?  Are you willing to share?

(I have a civil engineering degree that I've done nothing with professionally (other than occasionally building shelves for telco hardware, or figuring out how to move racks of servers))

Personally, I just started watching season two of Food Wars, as Netflix just got it.  It's anime food porn, and not kidding on the porn part -- lots of large breasted women, who get drawn as orgasming naked when they eat really good food.  But there's actually a *lot* of cooking tips buried in it.  The episode I just watched talked about mixing foods with inosinic acid (like aged fish) with those with glutamic acid (in seaweed) for increased perception of "umami".


Sure, channel is called "Not Just Bikes" and you'll see some suggestions for similar channels in the comments for the latest video.  Other channel is Bicycle Dutch I think, but that's a bit more bike specific.

I'm actually not sure if the narrator is a traffic engineer per se, but most of his videos are traffic and transportation related and he's clearly an engineer.

Bonus, he's canadian so he says "about" all funny.  He insists you must like boring videos if you watch his channel so he actually ended one of his videos with ten minutes of undesired footage of paint drying.  I have to admit I laughed.
 
2020-10-21 12:50:24 AM  

Bonzo_1116: rga184: ski9600: rga184: Bonzo_1116: rga184:

Wall of negativity regarding politics and Thanksgiving dinner

rga184, I think you should see if you can find a decent restaurant or food kitchen that will serve you a real Thanksgiving dinner in the traditional style.  With your attitude, you're not going to pull it off.

The most common veggie dish on Thanksgiving is a casserole that people make with Campbell's soup and top with crispy fried onions out of a plastic container.  The other vegetable dish is topped with marshmallows.  No amount of cooking skill will make that appetizing to anybody that grew up eating rajas con queso or huitlacoche quesadillas.

I will say pumpkin pie and apple pie made with granny smith apples are perhaps my number one and number two favorite desserts.  So there's that.  I wish my wife and I could have had wedding pumpkin pie instead of wedding cake.

\ surprised none of you guys have called me on the fact fondant is made with marshmallows!    ;D

Keep an open mind about the sweet potatoes.  The recipe in question is from my grandma in WWII Hawaii.  It's not the overly sweet slop you've normally had.  Depending on your sweet potatoes, you never add any additional sugar beyond the orange juice and pineapple.

The best prep is the one with cranberries on top, where the tartness plays off against the pineapple&sweet potato.  Think of it like the ever present limes in Mexican cuisine....cranberries and oranges out of season do that job.


That sounds better with cranberries  actually.  I'll keep it in mind when Trump wins and we do at least a year of traditional dishes to celebrate the USA again.  Will also pull the trigger on a turkey fryer.  Always wanted to try it.  Will probably go back to the international Thanksgiving after this year because we really did enjoy it.  We will just have to figure out a different method for narrowing down the countries for the dishes.
 
2020-10-21 12:51:28 AM  

NINEv2: rga184: ski9600: rga184: Bonzo_1116: rga184:

Wall of negativity regarding politics and Thanksgiving dinner

rga184, I think you should see if you can find a decent restaurant or food kitchen that will serve you a real Thanksgiving dinner in the traditional style.  With your attitude, you're not going to pull it off.

The most common veggie dish on Thanksgiving is a casserole that people make with Campbell's soup and top with crispy fried onions out of a plastic container.  The other vegetable dish is topped with marshmallows.  No amount of cooking skill will make that appetizing to anybody that grew up eating rajas con queso or huitlacoche quesadillas.

I will say pumpkin pie and apple pie made with granny smith apples are perhaps my number one and number two favorite desserts.  So there's that.  I wish my wife and I could have had wedding pumpkin pie instead of wedding cake.

\ surprised none of you guys have called me on the fact fondant is made with marshmallows!    ;D

Dude, wha? The best veggie side is mashed potatoes.


Fair enough.  I do actually like mashed potatoes.
 
2020-10-21 3:26:51 AM  

rga184: NINEv2: rga184: ski9600: rga184: Bonzo_1116: rga184:

Wall of negativity regarding politics and Thanksgiving dinner

rga184, I think you should see if you can find a decent restaurant or food kitchen that will serve you a real Thanksgiving dinner in the traditional style.  With your attitude, you're not going to pull it off.

The most common veggie dish on Thanksgiving is a casserole that people make with Campbell's soup and top with crispy fried onions out of a plastic container.  The other vegetable dish is topped with marshmallows.  No amount of cooking skill will make that appetizing to anybody that grew up eating rajas con queso or huitlacoche quesadillas.

I will say pumpkin pie and apple pie made with granny smith apples are perhaps my number one and number two favorite desserts.  So there's that.  I wish my wife and I could have had wedding pumpkin pie instead of wedding cake.

\ surprised none of you guys have called me on the fact fondant is made with marshmallows!    ;D

Dude, wha? The best veggie side is mashed potatoes.

Fair enough.  I do actually like mashed potatoes.


two favorite Irish versions:
- dulse champ. the red seaweed can be a little pricey, so I often reconstitute some hijiki or wakame instead.
- colcannon. main thing is braised-to-melting cabbage of course, but lots of options, I tend to add roasted leeks and/or ramps, or more recently I've been adding roasted carrots (boiled is fine too) and any other leftover salad greens we might have. also boiled/roasted parsnip, radish, sputniks, turnip - almost any root vegetal is welcome too.

either way, my lazy-dumbass prefers the rustic/ancient style of scrubbing the potatoes but leaving skin on, and imprecisely smashing rather than finely mashing.

although it turns out the roasted leeks are much more popular as a dish of their own! (ditto den Karotten, lol)

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not a mash, but variation on the Hasselback style from Sweden - fan it around a casserole dish and make a gratin! oh dear lord, this one always disappears instantly.

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and since I already pulled up my folder-of-things-I-have-caramelized, a good old classic Brussels sprouts. people think they hate sprouts but that's because they've only had it boiled beyond recognition then tossed on a serving platter, ugh. no. incorrect. whereas these get mysteriously inhaled, I tell you what.
(the yellow is from turmeric in my usual spice array)

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and since this thread is birb-specific, here's the recent one my brother did - standart brine method nothing fancy but ogod the color on that thing!

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2020-10-21 3:34:59 AM  
grrr, I left out the (as pictured in leek photo) most important part!!! if roasting or baking things, lit.anything, and have whole bulbs of garlic (Archer-as-Narrator: wait, do you NOT?) cut off the top ~1/4" and dress it up in a cute little foil basket, add salt and a glug of oil. time/temp are vaguely-irrelevant, so long as it gets caramelized to the point you can squeeze out the browned individual cloves and spread it like butter.

plus, that roasted garlic makes a lovely addition to any mashed potato dish.
 
2020-10-21 5:02:19 AM  

tintar: rga184: NINEv2: rga184: ski9600: rga184: Bonzo_1116: rga184:

Wall of negativity regarding politics and Thanksgiving dinner

rga184, I think you should see if you can find a decent restaurant or food kitchen that will serve you a real Thanksgiving dinner in the traditional style.  With your attitude, you're not going to pull it off.

The most common veggie dish on Thanksgiving is a casserole that people make with Campbell's soup and top with crispy fried onions out of a plastic container.  The other vegetable dish is topped with marshmallows.  No amount of cooking skill will make that appetizing to anybody that grew up eating rajas con queso or huitlacoche quesadillas.

I will say pumpkin pie and apple pie made with granny smith apples are perhaps my number one and number two favorite desserts.  So there's that.  I wish my wife and I could have had wedding pumpkin pie instead of wedding cake.

\ surprised none of you guys have called me on the fact fondant is made with marshmallows!    ;D

Dude, wha? The best veggie side is mashed potatoes.

Fair enough.  I do actually like mashed potatoes.

two favorite Irish versions:
- dulse champ. the red seaweed can be a little pricey, so I often reconstitute some hijiki or wakame instead.
- colcannon. main thing is braised-to-melting cabbage of course, but lots of options, I tend to add roasted leeks and/or ramps, or more recently I've been adding roasted carrots (boiled is fine too) and any other leftover salad greens we might have. also boiled/roasted parsnip, radish, sputniks, turnip - almost any root vegetal is welcome too.

either way, my lazy-dumbass prefers the rustic/ancient style of scrubbing the potatoes but leaving skin on, and imprecisely smashing rather than finely mashing.

although it turns out the roasted leeks are much more popular as a dish of their own! (ditto den Karotten, lol)

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not a mash, but variation on the Hasselback style from Sweden - fan it around a casserole dish and make a gratin! oh dear lord, this one always disappears instantly.

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and since I already pulled up my folder-of-things-I-have-caramelized, a good old classic Brussels sprouts. people think they hate sprouts but that's because they've only had it boiled beyond recognition then tossed on a serving platter, ugh. no. incorrect. whereas these get mysteriously inhaled, I tell you what.
(the yellow is from turmeric in my usual spice array)

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and since this thread is birb-specific, here's the recent one my brother did - standart brine method nothing fancy but ogod the color on that thing!

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Sputniks?

/everything looks crazy good btw
//ask me about smoked gravy sometime
 
2020-10-21 6:50:45 AM  

NINEv2: Sputniks?


kohlrabi, just a stupid word for it lol. personally, I like them raw julienne/thin-shaved as crude-ites. dip in hummus or ranch or franch-onyon or blue cheese, mmm. also cooked into neeps+tatties or suchlike. not something I'd usually look out for at the store, but we used to grow a lot as "weeds" in the garden.

so, yeah, I'ma need to hear more about this smoked gravy I heard about in the newsletter to which I am subscribed. I has an intrigue! is the meat/pan-fat smoked? is the gravy itself then double-smoked? inquiring minds need to know. and yet I feel like I remember something previously...

ah, jes, the scroobles, she is mine friends!

good advice, all of that!

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2020-10-21 12:07:42 PM  

tintar: NINEv2: Sputniks?

kohlrabi, just a stupid word for it lol. personally, I like them raw julienne/thin-shaved as crude-ites. dip in hummus or ranch or franch-onyon or blue cheese, mmm. also cooked into neeps+tatties or suchlike. not something I'd usually look out for at the store, but we used to grow a lot as "weeds" in the garden.

so, yeah, I'ma need to hear more about this smoked gravy I heard about in the newsletter to which I am subscribed. I has an intrigue! is the meat/pan-fat smoked? is the gravy itself then double-smoked? inquiring minds need to know. and yet I feel like I remember something previously...

ah, jes, the scroobles, she is mine friends!

good advice, all of that!

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Tharr, food. Tharr, castle?

Pretty easy really. Set up your grill for indirect smoking. Instead of placing the turkey breast straight on the rack, put it in a roasting pan (with a rack). A 9 x 13 cake pan works great. Then just make gravy from the pan drippings like you normally would. If you use apple or hickory wood you get a nice smokey turkey gravy that isn't overpowered with smoke. Don't forget to leave the wings on, and throw any sizeable trimmings like the neck in the pan to smoke too. Like I said before, amazing for soups.

I tried catching the drippings under the grill grate once instead and it tasted like carbon. The pan-on-grate method is the way to go for sure.
 
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