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2020-10-18 7:57:20 AM  

FarkQued: shpritz: waxbeans: cretinbob: easier to post links from PC

So the marshal deputies give conflicting accounts.
The guy did have a gun in his pocket.
I have been assured that carrying a gun is an inalienable right and not at all illegal.

Until it's not.
Selective prosecution.
Discharging a weapon in the city is against the law. But, seldom does self-defense shootings get charged with discharging a weapon.

You're thinking of the incident where he shot the maggot.

cretinbob is talking about when the marshals chose to execute him on the spot instead of arresting him

Thanks Marshalls for saving tax dollars on booking, processing, jail, trial, etc.  Don't worry I am sure some body cam footage will show the antifaTHER was in the wrong.


Thanks West Virginia for saving taxpayer dollars by realising that you can't teach a turnip and ending this perambulating potato's education in 3rd Grade.
 
2020-10-18 8:00:06 AM  

ReaverZ: RottenEggs: Albert911emt: Everything Trump touches dies or is corrupted.

He'll be Hillary level soon .

Trump probably has been whining "why can't I kill people when I want like Hillary and Obama!"


LOL  He's so jealous .
 
2020-10-18 8:00:18 AM  

cretinbob: Apparently these " marshals" were hastily deputized and were guys like corrections officers and other people who were not career marshals.
Makes you wonder why that is.


With no body cams
 
2020-10-18 8:03:17 AM  
"They didn't want to arrest him"

I think we deserve to know exactly what Trump meant by that.
 
2020-10-18 8:03:41 AM  

Albert911emt: Everything Trump touches dies or is corrupted.


And now it seems that some things Trump touches get murdered.
 
2020-10-18 8:05:27 AM  

Walker: I'm sure they will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law right Mr. Barr?
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I'm sure his replacement won't have a problem with that.
 
2020-10-18 8:06:11 AM  
It was an extrajudicial and brutal execution in public by federal marshalls, with no attempt to take the man into custody. One witness was walking his kid to school.
 
2020-10-18 8:07:04 AM  
It would be interesting to read comparisons of this guy's actions and situation compared to right wing hero Kyle Rittenhouse
 
2020-10-18 8:09:08 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: It would be interesting to read comparisons of this guy's actions and situation compared to right wing hero Kyle Rittenhouse


The guy who shot the kiddie diddler ?
 
2020-10-18 8:10:41 AM  

Alphax: Roshamon: Albert911emt: Everything Trump touches dies or is corrupted.

Trump would be Sauron, but only if Sauron was a big, angry, flaming-orange vagina

Putin is Morgoth?


Nope, Putin's still Putin.  He just has a bit of leverage on the big guy to keep him pliant

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2020-10-18 8:10:50 AM  

The Envoy: FarkQued: shpritz: waxbeans: cretinbob: easier to post links from PC

So the marshal deputies give conflicting accounts.
The guy did have a gun in his pocket.
I have been assured that carrying a gun is an inalienable right and not at all illegal.

Until it's not.
Selective prosecution.
Discharging a weapon in the city is against the law. But, seldom does self-defense shootings get charged with discharging a weapon.

You're thinking of the incident where he shot the maggot.

cretinbob is talking about when the marshals chose to execute him on the spot instead of arresting him

Thanks Marshalls for saving tax dollars on booking, processing, jail, trial, etc.  Don't worry I am sure some body cam footage will show the antifaTHER was in the wrong.

Thanks West Virginia for saving taxpayer dollars by realising that you can't teach a turnip and ending this perambulating potato's education in 3rd Grade.


Chad Smith and Chase Cutler, who were working on cars nearby Thursday, said an unmarked SUV had been parked on School Street for a while when that SUV and another converged on a man in a vehicle at the apartment complex. Smith and Cutler moved onto a grassy area about 50 yards away to watch what was happening.

The man got out of his vehicle and began to fire what they believe was an assault rifle at the SUVs. They said they heard 40 or 50 shots, then officers returned fire, hitting the man.

"It reminded me of a video game," Cutler said.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theolympian.com/news/local/crime/article245485220.html
 
2020-10-18 8:12:43 AM  
Why is there no addendum with other House Representatives, who are not former prosecutors, as well as Senators who also support an investigation signing on? Why isn't the list of Congressmen calling for an investigation longer than my arm?
 
2020-10-18 8:20:01 AM  

RottenEggs: Peter von Nostrand: It would be interesting to read comparisons of this guy's actions and situation compared to right wing hero Kyle Rittenhouse

The guy who shot the kiddie diddler

someone at a protest of the constant flow of unjustifiable Police killings, who had no right whatsoever to be in possession of the weapon he used, was underage, and raised to be a violent and potentially homicidal lunatic from birth by a pair of violent, uneducated white-trash rednecks?
 
2020-10-18 8:20:18 AM  
There;s nothing that Trump can't fark up. All he had to do was forget the whole thing. But no. He has to brag that he's the tough guy who calls the shots.
 
2020-10-18 8:22:22 AM  
Interesting...   Why say "a guy" instead of saying that guy was the shiatbag murderer who gunned someone down in Portland and then evaded arrest before giving a vlog interview to brag about it and getting in a shootout with cops?
 
2020-10-18 8:28:35 AM  

vudukungfu: cretinbob: Apparently these " marshals" were hastily deputized and were guys like corrections officers and other people who were not career marshals.
Makes you wonder why that is.

Or how many yahoos out there think they have a license to kill


Anybody who gets a flag patch to put on their upper arm.

It's the magic patch that makes murder transform into patriotic tears.
 
2020-10-18 8:30:08 AM  

way south: Interesting...   Why say "a guy" instead of saying that guy was the shiatbag murderer who gunned someone down in Portland and then evaded arrest before giving a vlog interview to brag about it and getting in a shootout with cops?


You think somebody works here? You address questions like yours to subby with a wink and a nod to demonstrate you know full well to ask a question as you have, a perfectly reasonable one, is inviting a pile on of WELCOME TO FARK.

And laugh, laugh, laugh at the scattered leaves...the bruised egos...the textual regret of all who come to the politics tab.

Oh, wait...this wasn't the Politics tab. Nevermind.
 
2020-10-18 8:37:52 AM  

cretinbob: BizarreMan: cretinbob: Apparently these " marshals" were hastily deputized and were guys like corrections officers and other people who were not career marshals.
Makes you wonder why that is.

The professionals couldn't be counted on to carry out the extra judicial execution?

Two sheriff's deputies, one cop, one jail guard and a real US marshal.
One of them didn't fire their weapon.
Guess which one.
Go ahead, guess.

// I had a link but Fark ate it


Aaaand welcome to pre-war Germany. Buckle up
 
2020-10-18 8:39:06 AM  

way south: Interesting...   Why say "a guy" instead of saying that guy was the shiatbag murderer who gunned someone down in Portland and then evaded arrest before giving a vlog interview to brag about it and getting in a shootout with cops?


And yet Kyle Rittenhouse lives. As does Dylan roof. Shiatbags or not, we have laws and vigilante justice has no place. Funny how your diatribe ignores that.
 
2020-10-18 8:49:40 AM  
Legal politicization of the IG, to respond to illegal politicization of the Marshals.

Unfortunate, but necessary.  Trust Trump to make even justice partisan.
 
2020-10-18 8:57:54 AM  

FarkQued: shpritz: waxbeans: cretinbob: easier to post links from PC

So the marshal deputies give conflicting accounts.
The guy did have a gun in his pocket.
I have been assured that carrying a gun is an inalienable right and not at all illegal.

Until it's not.
Selective prosecution.
Discharging a weapon in the city is against the law. But, seldom does self-defense shootings get charged with discharging a weapon.

You're thinking of the incident where he shot the maggot.

cretinbob is talking about when the marshals chose to execute him on the spot instead of arresting him

Thanks Marshalls for saving tax dollars on booking, processing, jail, trial, etc.  Don't worry I am sure some body cam footage will show the antifaTHER was in the wrong.


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2020-10-18 9:01:32 AM  

FarkQued: RottenEggs: Albert911emt: Everything Trump touches dies or is corrupted.

He'll be Hillary level soon .

2 or 3 more decades till Biden level.


Yeap, stealing paper clips from the office. How will themRepublic survive.
 
2020-10-18 9:02:14 AM  

FarkQued: The Envoy: FarkQued: shpritz: waxbeans: cretinbob: easier to post links from PC

So the marshal deputies give conflicting accounts.
The guy did have a gun in his pocket.
I have been assured that carrying a gun is an inalienable right and not at all illegal.

Until it's not.
Selective prosecution.
Discharging a weapon in the city is against the law. But, seldom does self-defense shootings get charged with discharging a weapon.

You're thinking of the incident where he shot the maggot.

cretinbob is talking about when the marshals chose to execute him on the spot instead of arresting him

Thanks Marshalls for saving tax dollars on booking, processing, jail, trial, etc.  Don't worry I am sure some body cam footage will show the antifaTHER was in the wrong.

Thanks West Virginia for saving taxpayer dollars by realising that you can't teach a turnip and ending this perambulating potato's education in 3rd Grade.

Chad Smith and Chase Cutler, who were working on cars nearby Thursday, said an unmarked SUV had been parked on School Street for a while when that SUV and another converged on a man in a vehicle at the apartment complex. Smith and Cutler moved onto a grassy area about 50 yards away to watch what was happening.

The man got out of his vehicle and began to fire what they believe was an assault rifle at the SUVs. They said they heard 40 or 50 shots, then officers returned fire, hitting the man.

"It reminded me of a video game," Cutler said.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theolympian.com/news/local/crime/article245485220.html


lolwut?

FarkQued: The Envoy: FarkQued: shpritz: waxbeans: cretinbob: easier to post links from PC

So the marshal deputies give conflicting accounts.
The guy did have a gun in his pocket.
I have been assured that carrying a gun is an inalienable right and not at all illegal.

Until it's not.
Selective prosecution.
Discharging a weapon in the city is against the law. But, seldom does self-defense shootings get charged with discharging a weapon.

You're thinking of the incident where he shot the maggot.

cretinbob is talking about when the marshals chose to execute him on the spot instead of arresting him

Thanks Marshalls for saving tax dollars on booking, processing, jail, trial, etc.  Don't worry I am sure some body cam footage will show the antifaTHER was in the wrong.

Thanks West Virginia for saving taxpayer dollars by realising that you can't teach a turnip and ending this perambulating potato's education in 3rd Grade.

Chad Smith and Chase Cutler, who were working on cars nearby Thursday, said an unmarked SUV had been parked on School Street for a while when that SUV and another converged on a man in a vehicle at the apartment complex. Smith and Cutler moved onto a grassy area about 50 yards away to watch what was happening.

The man got out of his vehicle and began to fire what they believe was an assault rifle at the SUVs. They said they heard 40 or 50 shots, then officers returned fire, hitting the man.

"It reminded me of a video game," Cutler said.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theolympian.com/news/local/crime/article245485220.html


Except that's not what happened.
 
2020-10-18 9:12:25 AM  
I'm sure they were just rogue contractors hired by Betsy de Boss to take care of the children.
 
2020-10-18 9:14:59 AM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: [Fark user image 768x512]


And the public will ask, "what took you so long?"
 
2020-10-18 9:17:56 AM  

Bruscar: Why is there no addendum with other House Representatives, who are not former prosecutors, as well as Senators who also support an investigation signing on? Why isn't the list of Congressmen calling for an investigation longer than my arm?


Because the allegations are bogus and intended solely to sling mud at the President during the election campaign.  Please keep up with the rest of the class.
 
2020-10-18 9:18:04 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: maddog2030: ...and then?

And then Democrats write an angry letter to Barr telling him the perpetrators should be prosecuted, which Barr wipes his ass with.


Why not hold Republicans responsible for their bad behavior and vote them out and lock them up? Democrats have no power to force good behavior from Trump or Barr with out cooperation from Republicans.
 
2020-10-18 9:18:08 AM  

winedrinkingman: waxbeans: cretinbob: easier to post links from PC

So the marshal deputies give conflicting accounts.
The guy did have a gun in his pocket.
I have been assured that carrying a gun is an inalienable right and not at all illegal.

Until it's not.
Selective prosecution.
Discharging a weapon in the city is against the law. But, seldom does self-defense shootings get charged with discharging a weapon.

You have a constitutional right to self defense, so if you reasonably believe your life is in danger, that supersedes the law against discharging of a firearm.

That said, simply having a gun on you, even if you are carrying it illegally, is not grounds to be killed by the police. If it were, the police would be justified in opening fire on all the militia guys, because every state has laws against private militias that make it illegal for private individuals to carry out their own private police/military operations.  You can use a gun to defend your home, but the minute you set up a perimeter around someone else's property "to protect it" you are breaking the law, unless their life is in immediate danger.

Third thing, even if the shooting was a hundred percent legit and self defense on the part of the cops here, and Trump gave no order for them to make the shooting, but is claiming to have done so after the fact, it would be grounds to have any cases against anyone else that may have been working with the victim, thrown out, and it opens the government to civil lawsuits.  

Finally, it is illegal as hell for a president to order the killing of an American, even one who is suspected of committing a crime, so giving such an order, even if it ends up the cops did not follow it, or were unaware that such an order had been given, means the president is guilty of a serious felony, so Trump is in fact claiming he committed murder by giving such an order.

What pisses me off is that every conservative I know is just gonna turn red in the face, and stomp their feet, and angrily c ...


https://www.aclu.org/video/aclu-ccr-lawsuit-american-boy-killed-us-drone-strike

You gonna arrest Obama or you wanna admit you arent shiat?
 
2020-10-18 9:18:37 AM  

Mouser: Bruscar: Why is there no addendum with other House Representatives, who are not former prosecutors, as well as Senators who also support an investigation signing on? Why isn't the list of Congressmen calling for an investigation longer than my arm?

Because the allegations are bogus and intended solely to sling mud at the President during the election campaign.  Please keep up with the rest of the class.


😆🙄
 
2020-10-18 9:19:56 AM  

Mouser: Bruscar: Why is there no addendum with other House Representatives, who are not former prosecutors, as well as Senators who also support an investigation signing on? Why isn't the list of Congressmen calling for an investigation longer than my arm?

Because the allegations are bogus and intended solely to sling mud at the President during the election campaign.  Please keep up with the rest of the class.


Sling mug ? What like there going to flip a red hat? LOL.
Why waste the money or time.
Better off making sure people vote.
No need to try to change minds.
 
2020-10-18 9:25:18 AM  
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2020-10-18 9:26:49 AM  

cretinbob: Apparently these " marshals" were hastily deputized and were guys like corrections officers and other people who were not career marshals.
Makes you wonder why that is.


Because Trump only has one criteria in his appointments: Loyalty to him.

Not loyalty to the law, not loyalty to the country, the citizens or the Constitution.  Only loyalty to him and him alone.
 
2020-10-18 9:27:35 AM  
Trump is too much of a pussy to have ordered the assasination himself.

However, in true Trump fashion, he will gladly claim credit for it.
 
2020-10-18 9:40:39 AM  

winedrinkingman: Finally, it is illegal as hell for a president to order the killing of an American, even one who is suspected of committing a crime, so giving such an order, even if it ends up the cops did not follow it, or were unaware that such an order had been given, means the president is guilty of a serious felony, so Trump is in fact claiming he committed murder by giving such an order.


This used to be something that got the Trumpers/RWNJ's in a full-on derpstorm.

They'd scream about what a tyrant Obama is, because he ordered the killing of an American citizen. . .said citizen had run off, joined Al Qaeda, was on the battlefields of the middle east fighting jihad against America and its allies. . .but when he got blown up in a drone strike, they were SCREAMING about extrajudicial killing and about violating due process rights.  They'd shout about how that's grounds for impeachment, grounds for a revolution against the Federal government, about how that's proof that Obama is a terrible President.

Trump brags about having US Marshalls execute a US citizen, in cold blood, on US soil, simply because they didn't want to arrest him.  They cheer.

farking fascists.
 
2020-10-18 9:42:24 AM  

way south: Interesting...   Why say "a guy" instead of saying that guy was the shiatbag murderer who gunned someone down in Portland and then evaded arrest before giving a vlog interview to brag about it and getting in a shootout with cops?


yeah that does seem like the usual disingenuous "it's okay if our guy does it" shiat that any wing nut seems to love

having said that Trump bragging about this is super sus and the government openly murdering its own citizens would be a million times worse than what the victim in THIS case may have done in THAT one
 
2020-10-18 9:43:37 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: way south: Interesting...   Why say "a guy" instead of saying that guy was the shiatbag murderer who gunned someone down in Portland and then evaded arrest before giving a vlog interview to brag about it and getting in a shootout with cops?

And yet Kyle Rittenhouse lives. As does Dylan roof. Shiatbags or not, we have laws and vigilante justice has no place. Funny how your diatribe ignores that.


I'm sorry, when did enlightened progressives suddenly care about laws?  Stop me if these popular catch phrases sound like what people who support anything other than the Law of the Jungle would say: "Defund the Police" "ACAB" "Punch a Nazi" "Welcome to CHAZ, pay your protection fee".

You're upset that US Marshalls gunned downed an armed, suspected murderer, with a prior violent history.  A guy who felt so confident that he wouldn't be arrested by the local cops, that he was giving interviews.

And you believe after three years of successfully evading the FBI's and Mueller Team's attempts to nail him down as a Russian puppet, Trump's going to blithely tell some rando deputized LE dudes, "No arrests - kill on sight!"

I'd ask how stupid all that sounds but, hey, peeing on Russian hookers was a credible story too, right?

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2020-10-18 9:48:39 AM  

quatchi: An investigation into an extrajudicial killing likely ordered by Trump and carried out by a hastily assembled death squad?

I am sure Bill Barr will get right on that.

That cynically noted, this does deserve a real investigation.

If it gets any attention it will get a whitewash from the WH.


Yes, Bill Bar already stated that you can't even collect or store evidence of Trump's crimes.  I had joked that if you wanted to get away with murder implicate the president and then demand the police to destroy any evidence they had.

I probably should have known better at the time than to joke about worst possible outcomes.
 
2020-10-18 9:48:46 AM  
I don't think "Donald Trump stated" is ever going to be credible enough evidence for anyone but his enemies to take action.  And even then it's less credibility than excuse, let's face it.
 
2020-10-18 9:53:06 AM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: [Fark user image 768x512]


Pence isn't carrying that cross though. That's just the cross that always floats nearby and gives him advice like that fairy in Zelda games.

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2020-10-18 9:56:15 AM  

Mouser: Bruscar: Why is there no addendum with other House Representatives, who are not former prosecutors, as well as Senators who also support an investigation signing on? Why isn't the list of Congressmen calling for an investigation longer than my arm?

Because the allegations are bogus and intended solely to sling mud at the President during the election campaign.  Please keep up with the rest of the class.


What did Trump mean by "they didn't want to arrest him?"
 
2020-10-18 9:58:17 AM  
Btw Trumpers, your panic is my lifeblood

I can smell it

SOON.
 
2020-10-18 9:58:31 AM  

leeksfromchichis: If it's true?

Hang 'em high.


Given thatTrump personally ordered the guy murdered, let em swing all the way to the top.
 
2020-10-18 10:04:30 AM  

AllCatsAreBeautiful: Duh. Everyone knew this was a targeted assassination of an American citizen, on American soil, by the Feds. They were never going to arrest him and grant him due process in a criminal court.
/I'm just surprised they didn't drone him instead.


And I guarantee he wasn't the first.

Also won't be the last, if Trump is re-elected.
 
2020-10-18 10:10:28 AM  
Epstein?

*reads TFA*

Oh. Someone else. But also Epstein?
 
2020-10-18 10:14:04 AM  

RottenEggs: Peter von Nostrand: It would be interesting to read comparisons of this guy's actions and situation compared to right wing hero Kyle Rittenhouse

The guy who shot the kiddie diddler ?


Rightwing vigilantes are the one class of people even more evil than kiddie diddlers.
 
2020-10-18 10:15:02 AM  
Well, I'd just fire off impeachment charges right now.  There's grounds for at least Barr.  Gum up the works to keep whatshername from being seated as a Supreme Court Justice before the election.
 
2020-10-18 10:19:07 AM  

likefunbutnot: The victim here was interviewed on a couple left wing podcasts, offering his version of events, the day before this happened. He actually told interviewers that he expected he  would be killed rather than prosecuted.


link please?
 
2020-10-18 10:19:40 AM  

Unscratchable_Itch: Albert911emt: Everything Trump touches dies or is corrupted.

And now it seems that some things Trump touches get murdered.


Only if they don't take the hush money for the abortion.
 
2020-10-18 10:28:51 AM  

Prussian_Roulette: Peter von Nostrand: way south: Interesting...   Why say "a guy" instead of saying that guy was the shiatbag murderer who gunned someone down in Portland and then evaded arrest before giving a vlog interview to brag about it and getting in a shootout with cops?

And yet Kyle Rittenhouse lives. As does Dylan roof. Shiatbags or not, we have laws and vigilante justice has no place. Funny how your diatribe ignores that.

I'm sorry, when did enlightened progressives suddenly care about laws?  Stop me if these popular catch phrases sound like what people who support anything other than the Law of the Jungle would say: "Defund the Police" "ACAB" "Punch a Nazi" "Welcome to CHAZ, pay your protection fee".

You're upset that US Marshalls gunned downed an armed, suspected murderer, with a prior violent history.  A guy who felt so confident that he wouldn't be arrested by the local cops, that he was giving interviews.

And you believe after three years of successfully evading the FBI's and Mueller Team's attempts to nail him down as a Russian puppet, Trump's going to blithely tell some rando deputized LE dudes, "No arrests - kill on sight!"

I'd ask how stupid all that sounds but, hey, peeing on Russian hookers was a credible story too, right?

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So you're saying president best words is lying? He's the one that bragged about the marshals, who as has been pointed out repeatedly, were deputized before the operation. Trump himself bragged they didn't try to arrest him. Are you saying he's lying because I'm not. I'm going by what Trump, Mr. no more bullshiat himself said.

Are you also saying that you don't believe the evidence, intelligence assessments from US and our allies that the collusion occurred? Despite the report saying it did by Mueller, the republican led senate, the indictments, convictions, plea deals, fines and more? Because only putin and Trump are denying it.

I'll give you a moment to wipe the cheeto jizz of your chin.

And finally in your petulant rant, you complain about sayings, yet we have a lot more actual violent acts by right wing proud boys, racists and Trump supporters than anything done by the left by you ignore direct threats from the right such as Trump encouraging his supporters to beat up protesters including saying he'd pay their legal fees, he encouraged cops to be extra rough when arresting people. But you're putting random comments on web sites on the same level as words from the president.

Long story short, GFY with your BSAB false equivalency. No really, eabod.
 
2020-10-18 10:38:24 AM  
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