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(The Hill)   Apparently, Oracle CEO donated $250K to PAC supporting Lindsey Graham days before Graham helped Oracle get the deal to purchase TikTok. Can't handle these coincidences   (thehill.com) divider line
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2020-10-17 6:49:54 PM  
Larry Ellison is evil confirmed.
 
2020-10-17 7:27:11 PM  
Why is government helping make business deals these days?
 
2020-10-17 8:44:15 PM  

edmo: Why is government helping make business deals these days?


Because picking and choosing is bad.

Er, it will be bad in January. That's it, yeah. January.
 
2020-10-17 8:44:53 PM  

edmo: Why is government helping make business deals these days?


lindsays dick cant suck itself
 
2020-10-17 8:47:00 PM  
Here's my shocked face

:|
 
2020-10-17 8:47:23 PM  
I don't know which one makes me smirk slightly more: the thought of Harrison having some extra ammo in his race, or the thought of Lindsey M-f-ing Graham telling someone--anyone--"Fark you, pay me," and they actually do it.
 
2020-10-17 8:47:51 PM  
I think we can all take solace in knowing Mark Hurd and Gloria Foster didn't live to see this.
 
2020-10-17 8:49:23 PM  
The merging of corporate and political interests toward mutual ends is one of the hallmarks of fascism.
 
2020-10-17 8:49:47 PM  

edmo: Why is government helping make business deals these days?


Politicians love to schmooze, and then claim they're winning jobs for locals. I'm suspecting Graham hosted a soiree rather than 'brokered' a deal but it's all about kissing arses.

I'm not seeing any legal wrongdoing here. If you're pissed off about this story then campaign for better laws around PAC's and disclosure because the US certainly has some shiatty systems for this but I'd be surprised if anything that's happened here is unusual in any way when it comes to business, PAC's, lobbyists and arse-sucking in general.
 
2020-10-17 8:51:02 PM  
TikTok m*ther f*ckers.
 
2020-10-17 8:51:12 PM  

edmo: Why is government helping make business deals these days?


Because we have a businessman as President.
 
2020-10-17 8:52:08 PM  

edmo: Why is government helping make business deals these days?


Part of the 4 Year Plan.
 
2020-10-17 8:53:12 PM  

foo monkey: edmo: Why is government helping make business deals these days?

Because we have a businessman as President.


Businessman?

That's a reach.....
 
2020-10-17 8:54:36 PM  

Farkin_Crazy: foo monkey: edmo: Why is government helping make business deals these days?

Because we have a businessman as President.

Businessman?

That's a reach.....


...around.

But anyway, thatwasthejoke.xls
 
2020-10-17 8:54:42 PM  

Ishkur: The merging of corporate and political interests toward mutual ends is one of the hallmarks of fascism.


I've mentioned this on here before, but one of my friends worked for Oracle in 2015/2016 and at a work event they were given, and expected to wear, red hats with Make Data Great Again on them. There wasn't actual enforcement, though*, as my buddy said he and most others never put them on.

* In any case, what's the worst they could have done? Not have them work at Oracle? Is that even a punishment?
 
2020-10-17 8:54:44 PM  

foo monkey: edmo: Why is government helping make business deals these days?

Because we have a businessman as President.


Let's make certain any possibility of that in the future is impossible.
 
2020-10-17 8:55:07 PM  
Does anyone think Blanche is looking forward to all the prison sex he can handle?

I do.
 
2020-10-17 8:56:52 PM  

Farkin_Crazy: foo monkey: edmo: Why is government helping make business deals these days?

Because we have a businessman as President.

Businessman?

That's a reach.....


Money laundering, fraud, and bankruptcies are a ~kind~ of business....
 
2020-10-17 8:57:17 PM  
Lindsey Graham asked for campaign donations during the Amy Barrett hearings.

It's a crime.

What police force needs militarizing to lock up Graham? Fund it.
 
2020-10-17 8:57:57 PM  
This isn't bribery.  The Supreme Court ruled that it's not bribery unless there's an explicit quid pro quo.  The money has to change hands in a big sack with a dollar sign on it, one of the parties must be wearing a curly villain mustache, and the other must be smoking a cigar.  Simply sending an email saying what a wonderful senator he is, and how you just donated $250,000 for his re-election, and by the way has he heard anything about that TikTok deal you were chasing meets none of the criteria for bribery, and therefore isn't.
 
2020-10-17 9:05:29 PM  

Farkin_Crazy: foo monkey: edmo: Why is government helping make business deals these days?

Because we have a businessman as President.

Businessman?

That's a reach.....


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2020-10-17 9:05:44 PM  
I'm going to demand a refund on my VirtualBox software
 
2020-10-17 9:08:03 PM  
And the swamp continues unabated during Trump's "presidency."
 
2020-10-17 9:14:40 PM  

recombobulator: This isn't bribery.  The Supreme Court ruled that it's not bribery unless there's an explicit quid pro quo.  The money has to change hands in a big sack with a dollar sign on it, one of the parties must be wearing a curly villain mustache, and the other must be smoking a cigar.  Simply sending an email saying what a wonderful senator he is, and how you just donated $250,000 for his re-election, and by the way has he heard anything about that TikTok deal you were chasing meets none of the criteria for bribery, and therefore isn't.


What truly pisses me off the most is how cheap politicians are to buy. Oracle spends $250k on Graham to ok a business deal worth how much again? Oh, right $60B. Really?

https://amp.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/ar​t​icle/3102144/heres-what-you-need-know-​about-oracles-bid-buy-tiktok-us-byteda​nce
 
2020-10-17 9:16:47 PM  

LIGAFF: Larry Ellison is evil confirmed.


I wonder how tiktokers will react when Larry needs a new boat and wants their money?
 
2020-10-17 9:17:04 PM  

baron von doodle: What truly pisses me off the most is how cheap politicians are to buy. Oracle spends $250k on Graham to ok a business deal worth how much again? Oh, right $60B. Really?


The 250k is what you can see/find easily.  Be sure there was plenty more than that going on, just in less immediately tangible assets.
 
2020-10-17 9:18:04 PM  

baron von doodle: What truly pisses me off the most is how cheap politicians are to buy. Oracle spends $250k on Graham to ok a business deal worth how much again? Oh, right $60B. Really?


Lindsay is going to spend it all on gay prostitutes anyway.
 
2020-10-17 9:19:05 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: baron von doodle: What truly pisses me off the most is how cheap politicians are to buy. Oracle spends $250k on Graham to ok a business deal worth how much again? Oh, right $60B. Really?

The 250k is what you can see/find easily.  Be sure there was plenty more than that going on, just in less immediately tangible assets.


Well, obviously. But even if it was $20M that's peanuts compared to the deal.
 
2020-10-17 9:20:35 PM  
Reminds me of fining banks. The fine is miniscule by comparison.
 
2020-10-17 9:21:46 PM  
Still, I'm a straight guy and I'll suck every dick at Oracle for $20M.
 
2020-10-17 9:21:49 PM  

edmo: Why is government helping make business deals these days?


yOu MeAn LiKe SoLyNdRa???
 
2020-10-17 9:22:12 PM  

phrawgh: I think we can all take solace in knowing Mark Hurd and Gloria Foster didn't live to see this.


Have to admit I did snicker when The Register referred to the Oracle co-CEO's as Hurd'n'Catz

https://www.theregister.com/2014/09/1​8​/larry_ellison_steps_down/
 
2020-10-17 9:23:22 PM  

LIGAFF: Larry Ellison is evil confirmed.


Larry Ellison is a shiat-stain of the highest order.
Larry Ellison is more evil than the fever dreams of Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk. Combined
Larry Ellison thinks "greed is good" is a good start, not the goal.
Larry Ellison is John McAfee with more resources and better PR.
Larry Ellison is what would happen if COVID evolved to have brain function.
 
2020-10-17 9:24:20 PM  

foo monkey: edmo: Why is government helping make business deals these days?

Because we have a businessman as President.


Not a very good one ..
 
2020-10-17 9:26:32 PM  
Lindsey Graham is a pedophile.
 
2020-10-17 9:26:42 PM  

Aussie_As: If you're pissed off about this story then campaign for better laws around PAC's and disclosure


I can almost personally guarantee you that well over 90% of the people on Fark who aren't just trolling you hate these laws, never wanted them, and had nothing to do with them ever coming to pass.  Everyone except rich people hated the Citizens United and it was a massive, nakedly partisan blow to our country's integrity.

That said, I'm not running for office, so I'm not exactly sure what campaigning I can do to reverse things like a Supreme Court ruling.
 
2020-10-17 9:27:19 PM  

baron von doodle: recombobulator: This isn't bribery.  The Supreme Court ruled that it's not bribery unless there's an explicit quid pro quo.  The money has to change hands in a big sack with a dollar sign on it, one of the parties must be wearing a curly villain mustache, and the other must be smoking a cigar.  Simply sending an email saying what a wonderful senator he is, and how you just donated $250,000 for his re-election, and by the way has he heard anything about that TikTok deal you were chasing meets none of the criteria for bribery, and therefore isn't.

What truly pisses me off the most is how cheap politicians are to buy. Oracle spends $250k on Graham to ok a business deal worth how much again? Oh, right $60B. Really?

https://amp.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/art​icle/3102144/heres-what-you-need-know-​about-oracles-bid-buy-tiktok-us-byteda​nce


How did Graham "ok" anything? What did he do? We don't know he did anything other than suck some corporate arse and claim some credit.

He happened to pick a winner and that Oracle farknuckle chucked him a campaign donation.

I'm not saying Graham's not an arsehole, I'm just saying you are probably giving him way too much credit for facilitating a deal. My bet is he had some folks around for some drinks and that was the entire level of his involvement.
 
2020-10-17 9:27:24 PM  

FatherChaos: And the swamp continues unabated during Trump's "presidency."


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You misspelled "Federally Protected Wetlands".
 
2020-10-17 9:27:31 PM  
Ellison is slime, there was a weird flip with Software where everyone suddenly had more money than god, and thought of themselves as Exceptional Americans who then pushed more Exceptionalism onto people.

Humans have exploits that are readily used, Trump being a glaring example.

Ellison should go full McAfee and jump completely up his own ass.
 
2020-10-17 9:29:30 PM  
Yeah, that's right Lindsey.  Piss and moan about how under Citizens United your electoral opponent is raising money "from out of state" along with this.
 
2020-10-17 9:30:33 PM  

BlueBox: LIGAFF: Larry Ellison is evil confirmed.

I wonder how tiktokers will react when Larry needs a new boat and wants their money?


Or when he needs a new island to park his new boats.
 
2020-10-17 9:31:55 PM  
Wow, nearly 50 posts into a Lindsay Graham thread and I'm the first to mention ladybugs. Disappointed, farkers.
 
2020-10-17 9:33:21 PM  

austerity101: Aussie_As: If you're pissed off about this story then campaign for better laws around PAC's and disclosure

I can almost personally guarantee you that well over 90% of the people on Fark who aren't just trolling you hate these laws, never wanted them, and had nothing to do with them ever coming to pass.  Everyone except rich people hated the Citizens United and it was a massive, nakedly partisan blow to our country's integrity.

That said, I'm not running for office, so I'm not exactly sure what campaigning I can do to reverse things like a Supreme Court ruling.


I saw an interview with Jon Tester today. And he was asked about PAC money.

He campaigned against it when he first went to the Senate. And then, as he started to work on re-election, he realized he was legally outgunned. Massively outgunned.

So, it was take a moral stand and get your ass kicked, or take it, and put up a fight.

The prevailing thought with Dems (in my opinion, anyway) is that they hate Citizens United, but they aren't about to take a toothpick to a gun fight if they don't have to.
 
2020-10-17 9:34:36 PM  

baron von doodle: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: baron von doodle: What truly pisses me off the most is how cheap politicians are to buy. Oracle spends $250k on Graham to ok a business deal worth how much again? Oh, right $60B. Really?

The 250k is what you can see/find easily.  Be sure there was plenty more than that going on, just in less immediately tangible assets.

Well, obviously. But even if it was $20M that's peanuts compared to the deal.


250k is what won't trip the few legal protections left for that kind of money being thrown into a campaign.  Sorta like paying a guy $10 an hour on the books and $500 an hour under the table because he helps you 'reason' with your rivals.  With a crowbar.

Sure, $10 ain't much - but it doesn't give anyone a legal entre' to go poking their nose into shiat either.  You don't want to leave breadcrumbs, so that's how you set it up.
 
2020-10-17 9:37:06 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: baron von doodle: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: baron von doodle: What truly pisses me off the most is how cheap politicians are to buy. Oracle spends $250k on Graham to ok a business deal worth how much again? Oh, right $60B. Really?

The 250k is what you can see/find easily.  Be sure there was plenty more than that going on, just in less immediately tangible assets.

Well, obviously. But even if it was $20M that's peanuts compared to the deal.

250k is what won't trip the few legal protections left for that kind of money being thrown into a campaign.  Sorta like paying a guy $10 an hour on the books and $500 an hour under the table because he helps you 'reason' with your rivals.  With a crowbar.

Sure, $10 ain't much - but it doesn't give anyone a legal entre' to go poking their nose into shiat either.  You don't want to leave breadcrumbs, so that's how you set it up.


He'll get a high paying, no-show, seat on the board when he retires (voluntary or otherwise). And an obscene salary.
 
2020-10-17 9:39:06 PM  

Farkin_Crazy: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: baron von doodle: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: baron von doodle: What truly pisses me off the most is how cheap politicians are to buy. Oracle spends $250k on Graham to ok a business deal worth how much again? Oh, right $60B. Really?

The 250k is what you can see/find easily.  Be sure there was plenty more than that going on, just in less immediately tangible assets.

Well, obviously. But even if it was $20M that's peanuts compared to the deal.

250k is what won't trip the few legal protections left for that kind of money being thrown into a campaign.  Sorta like paying a guy $10 an hour on the books and $500 an hour under the table because he helps you 'reason' with your rivals.  With a crowbar.

Sure, $10 ain't much - but it doesn't give anyone a legal entre' to go poking their nose into shiat either.  You don't want to leave breadcrumbs, so that's how you set it up.

He'll get a high paying, no-show, seat on the board when he retires (voluntary or otherwise). And an obscene salary.


That's the kind of thing we're talking about, yep.  And more I'm quite sure.  They know how much their 'influence' is worth - they don't come cheap.
 
2020-10-17 9:39:22 PM  
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2020-10-17 9:40:00 PM  

Aussie_As: baron von doodle: recombobulator: This isn't bribery.  The Supreme Court ruled that it's not bribery unless there's an explicit quid pro quo.  The money has to change hands in a big sack with a dollar sign on it, one of the parties must be wearing a curly villain mustache, and the other must be smoking a cigar.  Simply sending an email saying what a wonderful senator he is, and how you just donated $250,000 for his re-election, and by the way has he heard anything about that TikTok deal you were chasing meets none of the criteria for bribery, and therefore isn't.

What truly pisses me off the most is how cheap politicians are to buy. Oracle spends $250k on Graham to ok a business deal worth how much again? Oh, right $60B. Really?

https://amp.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/art​icle/3102144/heres-what-you-need-know-​about-oracles-bid-buy-tiktok-us-byteda​nce

How did Graham "ok" anything? What did he do? We don't know he did anything other than suck some corporate arse and claim some credit.

He happened to pick a winner and that Oracle farknuckle chucked him a campaign donation.

I'm not saying Graham's not an arsehole, I'm just saying you are probably giving him way too much credit for facilitating a deal. My bet is he had some folks around for some drinks and that was the entire level of his involvement.


Apparently, he put the idea of forcing the sale to a US comps in Trump's head, but didn't influence which company got the deal. The $250k seems to be a, "thanks for the assist". After the fact.

More details:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thev​e​rge.com/platform/amp/2020/10/17/215203​56/oracle-tiktok-larry-ellison-lindsey​-graham-super-pac-donation-jaime-harri​son
 
2020-10-17 9:40:32 PM  
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2020-10-17 9:42:56 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Farkin_Crazy: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: baron von doodle: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: baron von doodle: What truly pisses me off the most is how cheap politicians are to buy. Oracle spends $250k on Graham to ok a business deal worth how much again? Oh, right $60B. Really?

The 250k is what you can see/find easily.  Be sure there was plenty more than that going on, just in less immediately tangible assets.

Well, obviously. But even if it was $20M that's peanuts compared to the deal.

250k is what won't trip the few legal protections left for that kind of money being thrown into a campaign.  Sorta like paying a guy $10 an hour on the books and $500 an hour under the table because he helps you 'reason' with your rivals.  With a crowbar.

Sure, $10 ain't much - but it doesn't give anyone a legal entre' to go poking their nose into shiat either.  You don't want to leave breadcrumbs, so that's how you set it up.

He'll get a high paying, no-show, seat on the board when he retires (voluntary or otherwise). And an obscene salary.

That's the kind of thing we're talking about, yep.  And more I'm quite sure.  They know how much their 'influence' is worth - they don't come cheap.


Buying 1 retired Senator for a million a year is a better deal than 10 lobbyists @ 200k a year.
 
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