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2020-10-17 9:50:57 PM  

Trik: I didn't expect so many liberals to surrender their beliefs and values so easily.


Liberal does not equal pacifist. Never has
 
2020-10-17 9:53:44 PM  
Guns Guns Guns
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2020-10-17 10:00:19 PM  

Trik: I didn't expect so many liberals to surrender their beliefs and values so easily.


Seems to me they're learning the error of their previous positions.

Isn't that what liberals are supposed to be all about?
 
2020-10-17 10:01:29 PM  

Your Hind Brain: Yeah. The right wingers will start crying about the 2nd amendment when liberals have guns.

/fark you nazis. You know who you are.


Not even close. The Right will say "Look, even the lefties are buying guns."
 
2020-10-17 10:04:12 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: Bslim: The United States is populated by idiots who think E V E R Y T H I N Gcan be solved with a gun.

You know in Switzerland all men fit for service between 18 and 34 are actually given guns by the government and taught how to use them.  But you know those crazy Europeans, they're more backwoods than the average Mississippian

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busin​essinsider.com/switzerland-gun-laws-ra​tes-of-gun-deaths-2018-2%3famp


And?
 
2020-10-17 10:12:32 PM  

bfh0417: GrizzlyPouch: Bslim: The United States is populated by idiots who think E V E R Y T H I N Gcan be solved with a gun.

You know in Switzerland all men fit for service between 18 and 34 are actually given guns by the government and taught how to use them.  But you know those crazy Europeans, they're more backwoods than the average Mississippian

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busin​essinsider.com/switzerland-gun-laws-ra​tes-of-gun-deaths-2018-2%3famp

And?


That was from 2018.   In 2019 Switzerland tightened it's gun laws.   64% of the Swiss prefer to be able to travel freely than take the "cold dead hands" stance.

https://qz.com/1623173/switzerland-ap​p​roves-stricter-gun-laws-in-light-of-ne​w-eu-rules/
 
2020-10-17 10:14:10 PM  
 
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2020-10-17 10:28:11 PM  

SwiftFox: Just the standard  reminder again for the new folks:

Rule one: It's loaded


That's also rules 2 and 3.
 
2020-10-17 10:34:47 PM  

Dewey Fidalgo: ...

That was from 2018.   In 2019 Switzerland tightened it's gun laws.   64% of the Swiss prefer to be able to travel freely than take the "cold dead hands" stance.

https://qz.com/1623173/switzerland-app​roves-stricter-gun-laws-in-light-of-ne​w-eu-rules/


They haven't changed their militia laws.

Even today, Swiss gun laws would be pretty middle-of-the-road if it was a US state (aside from the military-issued service rifle at home thing).
 
2020-10-17 10:35:10 PM  
Kit Fister:  This is why I'm all in favor of requiring training.


My wife and I were talking about it about 2 months ago, and we came to the decision that we should get us each a gun.  I got my gun shortly thereafter and my wife got hers a week later.  I have since completed the basic firearms class, and the concealed carry class.

In 2 weeks my wife will be taking the basic class and a week after that the concealed carry class.

I have also bought us both a non-fatal weapon to have as well.  The Wisconsin concealed carry licence also allows you to carry a stun gun or a can of mace, so I bought us each a stun baton.  Just the arcing of that thing will make any attacker back off.  Perfect non fatal weapons for personal defense.

Ammo for my 9mm is extremely scarce right now, and the rounds for my wife's 38 special are just about impossible to find in stores.  Online ammo stores are selling out as fast as they get the rounds in, so I am checking daily to see if I can find anything.

And as for the headline of this thread:
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2020-10-17 10:46:09 PM  

bfh0417: Your Hind Brain: Yeah. The right wingers will start crying about the 2nd amendment when liberals have guns.

/fark you nazis. You know who you are.

Not even close. The Right will say "Look, even the lefties are buying guns."


Very close, when the right start screaming "antifa".....and a gun happened to be involved.
 
2020-10-17 11:05:08 PM  

The Pope of Manwich Village: So...does anyone have one of these .22s that you can break down and fit into a backpack? I'm, uh...asking for a sniper friend of mine.


Yes, but not the super small wire frame one.
 
2020-10-17 11:14:10 PM  

wruley: My Son and Daughter bought me a gun for Father's day. Ammo has been sold out all 3 times I went to buy some. The range only had target rounds. I expected Bass Pro, Schiells, or Cabella's to have some...nope. All sold out of 45 rounds.


I haven't bought ammo since last year, before this mess got going.  Fortunately, I have plenty of .45 ACP on hand and don't need to pay the inflated prices when it is available, so I'm good.

But answer the important question.  What did they get you?
 
2020-10-17 11:15:51 PM  

g.fro: Kit Fister: SwiftFox: Just the standard  reminder again for the new folks:

Rule one: It's loaded

This is why I'm all in favor of requiring training.

Basic firearm safety training should be required the same way sex-ed should be required.

If it were up to me, both would be mandatory high school classes.


It used to common for schools to teach basic firearms and have shooting competitions with other schools.  I'm all for bringing that back.
 
2020-10-17 11:18:50 PM  
God idea since the cops are abandoning their posts en masse because they got called out on their shiatty behavior.
 
2020-10-17 11:20:37 PM  

bfh0417: Your Hind Brain: Yeah. The right wingers will start crying about the 2nd amendment when liberals have guns.

/fark you nazis. You know who you are.

Not even close. The Right will say "Look, even the lefties are buying guns."


The basic attitude of the gun groups I participate in is, "good, but I hope they get some training".  All too often panic buyers get a gun, never get training or go to the range, then stuff it in a box in the back of the closet, completely unsecured.  In a few years they'll trade it for a $50 Target gift card at the local police gun buyback program.  It looks good on the news, but doesn't do a thing about the guns the criminals possess.
 
2020-10-17 11:27:58 PM  

OgreMagi: g.fro: Kit Fister: SwiftFox: Just the standard  reminder again for the new folks:

Rule one: It's loaded

This is why I'm all in favor of requiring training.

Basic firearm safety training should be required the same way sex-ed should be required.

If it were up to me, both would be mandatory high school classes.

It used to common for schools to teach basic firearms and have shooting competitions with other schools.  I'm all for bringing that back.


Schools also used to teach archery and have woodshop.  We need to bring all of it back.

There is much to learn from shooting a bow, or building a chair.
 
2020-10-17 11:31:16 PM  

OgreMagi: bfh0417: Your Hind Brain: Yeah. The right wingers will start crying about the 2nd amendment when liberals have guns.

/fark you nazis. You know who you are.

Not even close. The Right will say "Look, even the lefties are buying guns."

The basic attitude of the gun groups I participate in is, "good, but I hope they get some training".  All too often panic buyers get a gun, never get training or go to the range, then stuff it in a box in the back of the closet, completely unsecured.  In a few years they'll trade it for a $50 Target gift card at the local police gun buyback program.  It looks good on the news, but doesn't do a thing about the guns the criminals possess.


Who are "they"? No political affiliation perhaps?
 
2020-10-17 11:31:29 PM  

RussianPotato: OgreMagi: g.fro: Kit Fister: SwiftFox: Just the standard  reminder again for the new folks:

Rule one: It's loaded

This is why I'm all in favor of requiring training.

Basic firearm safety training should be required the same way sex-ed should be required.

If it were up to me, both would be mandatory high school classes.

It used to common for schools to teach basic firearms and have shooting competitions with other schools.  I'm all for bringing that back.

Schools also used to teach archery and have woodshop.  We need to bring all of it back.

There is much to learn from shooting a bow, or building a chair.


I took woodshop in middle school.  We rotated through three classes, shop, art, and home economics.  No archery, though.  It wasn't offered.
 
2020-10-17 11:34:29 PM  

Your Hind Brain: OgreMagi: bfh0417: Your Hind Brain: Yeah. The right wingers will start crying about the 2nd amendment when liberals have guns.

/fark you nazis. You know who you are.

Not even close. The Right will say "Look, even the lefties are buying guns."

The basic attitude of the gun groups I participate in is, "good, but I hope they get some training".  All too often panic buyers get a gun, never get training or go to the range, then stuff it in a box in the back of the closet, completely unsecured.  In a few years they'll trade it for a $50 Target gift card at the local police gun buyback program.  It looks good on the news, but doesn't do a thing about the guns the criminals possess.

Who are "they"? No political affiliation perhaps?


It was a discussion about the record number of first time gun owners and the large number of liberal gun buyers.  No one was complaining about "them libs". The general consensus was that the more gun owners across the political spectrum the better.  The gun group was "Calguns".
 
2020-10-17 11:34:42 PM  

Mikey1969: Target Builder: "About 110,000 Californians have bought a gun since the coronavirus arrived, study says"

Is that all? That's .3% of the population, and half of them already owned guns?

This is Uber liberal, nanny state California, which is probably why this rates as news.


There are more than a few extremely red parts of California.  For example, the Congressional district that gave us Devin Nunes.
 
2020-10-17 11:36:01 PM  

djslowdive: Fire Fire Fire! (Queue Nitzer Ebb song here)


Beavis corrupting stupid youth, imho
 
2020-10-17 11:39:27 PM  

OgreMagi: Your Hind Brain: OgreMagi: bfh0417: Your Hind Brain: Yeah. The right wingers will start crying about the 2nd amendment when liberals have guns.

/fark you nazis. You know who you are.

Not even close. The Right will say "Look, even the lefties are buying guns."

The basic attitude of the gun groups I participate in is, "good, but I hope they get some training".  All too often panic buyers get a gun, never get training or go to the range, then stuff it in a box in the back of the closet, completely unsecured.  In a few years they'll trade it for a $50 Target gift card at the local police gun buyback program.  It looks good on the news, but doesn't do a thing about the guns the criminals possess.

Who are "they"? No political affiliation perhaps?

It was a discussion about the record number of first time gun owners and the large number of liberal gun buyers.  No one was complaining about "them libs". The general consensus was that the more gun owners across the political spectrum the better.  The gun group was "Calguns".

bfh0417: Your Hind Brain: Yeah. The right wingers will start crying about the 2nd amendment when liberals have guns.

/fark you nazis. You know who you are.

Not even close. The Right will say "Look, even the lefties are buying guns."

bfh0417: Your Hind Brain: Yeah. The right wingers will start crying about the 2nd amendment when liberals have guns.

/fark you nazis. You know who you are.

Not even close. The Right will say "Look, even the lefties are buying guns."

Very close, when the right start screaming "antifa".....and a gun happened to be involved.


You forgot about the last point I made ^^
 
2020-10-18 12:00:16 AM  

Your Hind Brain: OgreMagi: Your Hind Brain: OgreMagi: bfh0417: Your Hind Brain: Yeah. The right wingers will start crying about the 2nd amendment when liberals have guns.

/fark you nazis. You know who you are.

Not even close. The Right will say "Look, even the lefties are buying guns."

The basic attitude of the gun groups I participate in is, "good, but I hope they get some training".  All too often panic buyers get a gun, never get training or go to the range, then stuff it in a box in the back of the closet, completely unsecured.  In a few years they'll trade it for a $50 Target gift card at the local police gun buyback program.  It looks good on the news, but doesn't do a thing about the guns the criminals possess.

Who are "they"? No political affiliation perhaps?

It was a discussion about the record number of first time gun owners and the large number of liberal gun buyers.  No one was complaining about "them libs". The general consensus was that the more gun owners across the political spectrum the better.  The gun group was "Calguns".
bfh0417: Your Hind Brain: Yeah. The right wingers will start crying about the 2nd amendment when liberals have guns.

/fark you nazis. You know who you are.

Not even close. The Right will say "Look, even the lefties are buying guns."
bfh0417: Your Hind Brain: Yeah. The right wingers will start crying about the 2nd amendment when liberals have guns.

/fark you nazis. You know who you are.

Not even close. The Right will say "Look, even the lefties are buying guns."

Very close, when the right start screaming "antifa".....and a gun happened to be involved.

You forgot about the last point I made ^^


First you need to make a coherent point if you want a response.
 
2020-10-18 12:03:57 AM  

WastrelWay: "About 110,000 Californians have bought a gun since the coronavirus arrived, study says"


Only 110,000?   Nation wide that number is approaching 20 Million with the current rate of 2 to 2.5 million per month.
 
2020-10-18 12:09:04 AM  
Aside from blowing away another asshole with a gun, what good have guns done for the citizens of the USA?
 
2020-10-18 12:12:08 AM  

Bslim: The United States is populated by idiots who think E V E R Y T H I N Gcan be solved with a gun.


Yep.
But, to be fair, killing people has worked for them for 200+ years.
Sort of.
But, then again, there are people that think slaves work.
Again, sort of.
We like the idiot stupid gambler that only focuses on the wins. While be negative over the long haul.
 
2020-10-18 12:22:13 AM  

gunther_bumpass: Aside from blowing away another asshole with a gun, what good have guns done for the citizens of the USA?


The Japanese knew better than to attempt an invasion because there would be a gun behind every blade of grass.

That's not even getting into the sporting aspects of guns.
 
2020-10-18 12:32:04 AM  

gunther_bumpass: Aside from blowing away another asshole with a gun, what good have guns done for the citizens of the USA?


Independence
End of slavery
Defeat if fascism

To list just the big ones.
 
2020-10-18 12:32:47 AM  

g.fro: gunther_bumpass: Aside from blowing away another asshole with a gun, what good have guns done for the citizens of the USA?

Independence
End of slavery
Defeat if fascism

To list just the big ones.


*of fascism
 
2020-10-18 12:33:01 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Bslim: The United States is populated by idiots who think E V E R Y T H I N Gcan be solved with a gun.

You know in Switzerland all men fit for service between 18 and 34 are actually given guns by the government and taught how to use them.  But you know those crazy Europeans, they're more backwoods than the average Mississippian

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busin​essinsider.com/switzerland-gun-laws-ra​tes-of-gun-deaths-2018-2%3famp


While I'm sure the Swiss' penchant for keeping their bridges armed with explosives and thousands of bunkers all over the place may be some 'Merican's wet dream, they are only "given" guns due to mandatory military service, so the backwoods comparison doesn't really match.
 
2020-10-18 12:35:32 AM  

Crewmannumber6: Trik: I didn't expect so many liberals to surrender their beliefs and values so easily.

Liberal does not equal pacifist. Never has


Even then, pacifist has not always meant exclusively nonviolent either.
 
2020-10-18 12:43:10 AM  
Okay, and so?
 
2020-10-18 12:43:56 AM  

Anonymous Bosch: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/mqa11Jhi​pPQ]


Came for this, leaving satisfied.
 
2020-10-18 12:50:25 AM  

RightWingWacko: WastrelWay: "About 110,000 Californians have bought a gun since the coronavirus arrived, study says"

Only 110,000?   Nation wide that number is approaching 20 Million with the current rate of 2 to 2.5 million per month.


The gun laws of California are some of the most restrictive in the United States.
 
2020-10-18 12:57:59 AM  
110,000 guns sold in a state as large as California...? That's it?

/I know, "Not news... fark... yada yada yada".
 
2020-10-18 1:16:54 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Bslim: The United States is populated by idiots who think E V E R Y T H I N Gcan be solved with a gun.

You know in Switzerland all men fit for service between 18 and 34 are actually given guns by the government and taught how to use them.  But you know those crazy Europeans, they're more backwoods than the average Mississippian

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busin​essinsider.com/switzerland-gun-laws-ra​tes-of-gun-deaths-2018-2%3famp


Yes, Switzerland has a WELL-REGULATED MILITIA.
 
2020-10-18 1:19:11 AM  

Znuh: Libby lib lib here. I'd far rather have the tools and not need them, then vice-versa. Wanted to get a rifle as well, but I was happy to settle on a 45 chambered XDM and a Mossberg 590A1. Full disclosure, I used to shoot when I was younger.

CC is a state right where I live here in Maine, so there was no filling out any extra paperwork. Picked up a Galco Miami II harness which fits nicely, and more importantly is safe to use. The 590A1 lives in this, so there's no questions when I'm headed out to the range to practice: 

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Do you own a windbag wedge wheel alignment tool.

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/if we are talking about tools you will never need
 
2020-10-18 1:59:03 AM  
People love to call California "Commiefornia" but seem to have this pretty stupid notion the libby libs there aren't armed.
You want to know the difference between a liberal gun owner and a conservative gun owner?

-the conservative won't shut up about how many rounds of ammo they have or how full their gun safe is.
 
2020-10-18 3:38:54 AM  

Dewey Fidalgo: bfh0417: GrizzlyPouch: Bslim: The United States is populated by idiots who think E V E R Y T H I N Gcan be solved with a gun.

You know in Switzerland all men fit for service between 18 and 34 are actually given guns by the government and taught how to use them.  But you know those crazy Europeans, they're more backwoods than the average Mississippian

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busin​essinsider.com/switzerland-gun-laws-ra​tes-of-gun-deaths-2018-2%3famp

And?

That was from 2018.   In 2019 Switzerland tightened it's gun laws.   64% of the Swiss prefer to be able to travel freely than take the "cold dead hands" stance.

https://qz.com/1623173/switzerland-app​roves-stricter-gun-laws-in-light-of-ne​w-eu-rules/


So in r esponse to the 2015 Paris terrorists attacks?  That's Paris, France where gun ownership was already illegal unless a person had "a hunting license or a shooting sport license"

You know why those weren't the 2015 Geneva terrorist attacks (for example)?

Because the terrorists knew there was a lot less of a chance that anybody would shoot back to stop them in Paris.

Like somebody said earlier, Chicago already heavily restricts gun ownership. Sure doesn't prevent gun crimes from happening though does it?  You know what does?  Gun ownership.
 
2020-10-18 3:41:22 AM  

Harmonic Discord: GrizzlyPouch: Bslim: The United States is populated by idiots who think E V E R Y T H I N Gcan be solved with a gun.

You know in Switzerland all men fit for service between 18 and 34 are actually given guns by the government and taught how to use them.  But you know those crazy Europeans, they're more backwoods than the average Mississippian

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busin​essinsider.com/switzerland-gun-laws-ra​tes-of-gun-deaths-2018-2%3famp

While I'm sure the Swiss' penchant for keeping their bridges armed with explosives and thousands of bunkers all over the place may be some 'Merican's wet dream, they are only "given" guns due to mandatory military service, so the backwoods comparison doesn't really match.


I mean you can't have it both ways.  Ppl who advocate more guns are either backwoods idiots or they aren't (whether it's some guy fromMississippi or the Swiss government shouldn't matter according to your logic)
 
2020-10-18 3:50:44 AM  

JAGChem82: deadsanta: Yeah Blacks getting massacred buy guns, so Hispanics and Asians figure they're probably next, also buy guns, and then white people see all the POC buying guns...

Pretty much just the way the NRA and manufacturers wanted it to turn out.

I get the gist of your post, but far too many liberals, until this year, have stayed away from guns/firearms ownership out of a false belief of what gun ownership means.

D pols think that the only gun owners that exist are a bunch of Cletus Confederates in camo and they actively discourage their constituents from participating in the 2A responsibly. I'm not saying they need to go air commercials with them showing off their 9 mm or AR-15, but stop letting them control the narrative about firearms ownership.


Gun ownership means owning a gun.  It means making it many times more likely that someone in your home will die from gun violence while also making it more likely you will die from a home invasion (when the intruder gets your gun) than if you didn't have a gun (which is no more or less likely to occur just because you own a gun).  It also means giving my money to a third party that makes guns and ammunition as well as the time and effort to care and maintain a weapon in proper condition.  None of that makes me safer, just poorer and more stressed.
 
2020-10-18 4:01:24 AM  
deadsanta:

Can you cite any examples of a guy without a gun breaking into somebody's home and then using that persons gun to harm the homeowner?

Just think about the chain of events that would have to take place for that to happen:

Unarmed guy breaks in.  Some sort of situation (?) occurs where guy breaking in discovers a gun (Keep in mind he doesn't know where it's located) before the homeowner (who does know where the gun is) has a chance to use it.

As opposed to the guy breaking  in just, you know, running away.

Do you really think things like that happen?
 
2020-10-18 4:21:47 AM  
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2020-10-18 6:38:30 AM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: duppy: The pandemic may be part of it, but I'm gonna guess both "emboldened racist nutbags" and "administration bloodthirsty enough to cackle about a quarter-million deaths" also figure prominently for a lot of buyers.

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Not to mention the word "Boogaloo" getting tossed around a lot...


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2020-10-18 8:27:54 AM  
That is nice but do they have the ammo for them? It still seems that has been a little bit harder to find.
 
2020-10-18 8:34:46 AM  

RTOGUY: jjorsett: duppy: The pandemic may be part of it, but I'm gonna guess both "emboldened racist nutbags" and "administration bloodthirsty enough to cackle about a quarter-million deaths" also figure prominently for a lot of buyers.

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I'm sure riots, looting, burning, and sharp increases in crime had nothing whatsoever to do with it.

It's not crime smashing windows and stealing TVs and shoes is how you fix racism.


Ya never see looters stealing work boots
 
2020-10-18 10:15:21 AM  
deplorable cowards, clinging.
 
2020-10-18 10:37:52 AM  

jmr61: g.fro: Kit Fister: SwiftFox: Just the standard  reminder again for the new folks:

Rule one: It's loaded

This is why I'm all in favor of requiring training.

Basic firearm safety training should be required the same way sex-ed should be required.

If it were up to me, both would be mandatory high school classes.

You're going to MAKE kids handle guns? Seriously?


Bawwwwwww, teaching kids how to handle firearms under controlled and safe circumstances rather than teaching them abstinence-only education! That's just TERRIBLE.
 
2020-10-18 10:38:36 AM  

OgreMagi: g.fro: Kit Fister: SwiftFox: Just the standard  reminder again for the new folks:

Rule one: It's loaded

This is why I'm all in favor of requiring training.

Basic firearm safety training should be required the same way sex-ed should be required.

If it were up to me, both would be mandatory high school classes.

It used to common for schools to teach basic firearms and have shooting competitions with other schools.  I'm all for bringing that back.


Many still offer it as an elective, actually.
 
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