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edmo [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-10-17 7:34:40 PM  

con_fuse9: 1) The fear that it will get harder to buy guns in the near future (esp assault style rifles). <= That's the increase


That fear comes up every election and never materializes. God bless the gun marketers.
 
g.fro
2020-10-17 7:34:46 PM  

Kit Fister: SwiftFox: Just the standard  reminder again for the new folks:

Rule one: It's loaded

This is why I'm all in favor of requiring training.


Basic firearm safety training should be required the same way sex-ed should be required.

If it were up to me, both would be mandatory high school classes.
 
redmid17
2020-10-17 7:35:04 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: Bslim: The United States is populated by idiots who think E V E R Y T H I N Gcan be solved with a gun.

You know in Switzerland all men fit for service between 18 and 34 are actually given guns by the government and taught how to use them.  But you know those crazy Europeans, they're more backwoods than the average Mississippian

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busin​essinsider.com/switzerland-gun-laws-ra​tes-of-gun-deaths-2018-2%3famp


That's kind of true. More and more are opting for civil service in lieu of military - it might be a majority now - but even more significant is that the ones opting for civil service or who are unfit (minus mentally / criminally) are still allowed to purchase guns by Swiss federal statute!!

If you're interested I'm happily to link to respective Swiss gov pages!
 
dickieignorant
2020-10-17 7:35:29 PM  
Tigers are playing.   TONIGHT!   And I never miss a game...
 
RTOGUY [TotalFark]
2020-10-17 7:35:42 PM  

wruley: My Son and Daughter bought me a gun for Father's day. Ammo has been sold out all 3 times I went to buy some. The range only had target rounds. I expected Bass Pro, Schiells, or Cabella's to have some...nope. All sold out of 45 rounds.


I managed to snag four boxes of 45-70 today I'm now ready for anything up to and including velociraptor attack.
 
g.fro
2020-10-17 7:37:32 PM  

My Sober Alt: I read a post somewhere today that claimed there were "200 million armed hunters" (as opposed to unarmed hunters?) in the US and that there were another 50 million who had guns but weren't hunters.

I think it was on Fox News, but it could have been somewhere else.  Do these people even realize how blatantly wrong their lies are before they tell them?

From my cursory googling, about 72 million Americans said they owned guns - There may be a few who are too paranoid to admit to pollsters that they owned them, but I'm sure it's not 180 million.

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I'm pretty sure most gun-owners are not hunters, and lots (maybe most) gun-owners wouldn't tell a pollster anything.
 
C18H27NO3
2020-10-17 7:39:32 PM  

con_fuse9: Now personally, I've never had a need or want for an assault style rifle, but they seem to be getting harder and harder to get in my state.


Well yeah, there's a reason that select-fire weapons that give you the option to choose between burst and full-auto would be hard to get, in any state.
/I know what you meant.
 
WelldeadLink [TotalFark]
2020-10-17 7:43:05 PM  

Kit Fister: SwiftFox: Just the standard  reminder again for the new folks:

Rule one: It's loaded

This is why I'm all in favor of requiring training.


California's bullet train will not help.
 
WelldeadLink [TotalFark]
2020-10-17 7:43:48 PM  

wruley: My Son and Daughter bought me a gun for Father's day. Ammo has been sold out all 3 times I went to buy some. The range only had target rounds. I expected Bass Pro, Schiells, or Cabella's to have some...nope. All sold out of 45 rounds.


You need to search for the right search: ammo search engine
 
GrizzlyPouch
2020-10-17 7:44:10 PM  
duppy:

"Emboldened racist nut bags"

I guess you could pretend things like the Charleston, South Carolina shooting are common (they aren't)

Or you could recognize there were 440 murders just in Chicago between January and July of 2020....none of which were committed by white supremacists.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcc​h​icago.com/news/local/chicago-homicides​-rose-by-139-percent-from-last-july-of​ficials-say/2315318/%3famp

What do you think all those emboldened individuals who bought the guns for racist reasons are doing with the guns? Doesn't look like they're using them on other people?
 
Earguy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-10-17 7:47:01 PM  
No, 11,000 Californians bought 10 guns each.
 
ClavellBCMI [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-10-17 7:50:24 PM  

SwiftFox: Just the standard  reminder again for the new folks:

Rule one: It's loaded


Yep, every firearm is *always* loaded, until you, yourself, verify that it is *not* loaded. Just because that Glock is sitting on the ground, with the slide back and the magazine well empty, does *not* mean that there is not a round still in the chamber, waiting for some idiot to work the slide closed and pull the trigger and get surprised when the *bang* sound happens.
 
duppy [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-10-17 7:50:29 PM  

Earguy: No, 11,000 Californians bought 10 guns each.


Pretty sure they come in 12-gun blister packs at Costco
 
TomDooley [TotalFark]
2020-10-17 7:51:35 PM  
Bootlickers are so easily triggered.   Oooga Booga.
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dennysgod
2020-10-17 7:52:14 PM  
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GodComplex
2020-10-17 7:52:36 PM  
One could also say 110k more Californians have diminished faith in the government and decided to invest in a 'plan b.'
 
sirrerun [TotalFark]
2020-10-17 7:52:41 PM  

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One of the best villains and arguably the character that made the robocop such a good film.


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redmid17
2020-10-17 7:52:52 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: duppy:

"Emboldened racist nut bags"

I guess you could pretend things like the Charleston, South Carolina shooting are common (they aren't)

Or you could recognize there were 440 murders just in Chicago between January and July of 2020....none of which were committed by white supremacists.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcch​icago.com/news/local/chicago-homicides​-rose-by-139-percent-from-last-july-of​ficials-say/2315318/%3famp

What do you think all those emboldened individuals who bought the guns for racist reasons are doing with the guns? Doesn't look like they're using them on other people?


I can promise you no one bought a gun from a gun shop in Chicago last year.
 
The Pope of Manwich Village [TotalFark]
2020-10-17 7:53:37 PM  
I grew up in Montana in a big family of hunters on both sides, mostly the menfolk, but because my mom wouldn't allow guns in the house and my dad wasn't a big hunting fan anyway, I subsequently never really got into it.

At the same time, I have a lot of respect for my hunter family members because they do it the right way - all of them get proper firearm training at a very young age, they self-police themselves on proper gun safety, especially my uncles, if you even think of acting stupid around a gun, they will bring down the hammer, which is being ostracized from the group until you not only repent, but become a proper teacher yourself. My cousin was basically banned from hunting with his brothers for two years for some stupid shiat when he was a kid and now, to see him grown up, after learning his lesson and accepting his punishment and with his own boys showing them the right way is really cool.

They also follow all the rules, are respectful of the land they hunt on - which is usually private ranch land where they need to build trust and rapport with the land owners - and they eat what they kill. If the shiat hit the fan, I'd head over to their place and hunker down.

I don't like guns at all, but I also live 3 miles from where George Floyd was killed. I'm not going to lie, I thought about getting a gun. I didn't, but I thought about it longer than ever thought I would. It's stupid, but shiat goes through your head sometimes.
 
Your Hind Brain
2020-10-17 8:00:36 PM  
Yeah. A long time ago back in the early fark days, there was someone called (*). He dozed a lot. Made the mistake of posting a pic holding a gun of some sort. Yes, the pic was abused (photo shopped).
 
i.r.id10t
2020-10-17 8:01:42 PM  

duppy: Earguy: No, 11,000 Californians bought 10 guns each.

Pretty sure they come in 12-gun blister packs at Costco


To be fair, my last 3 did come in blister packs, but no multi-packs

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Mr. Shabooboo
2020-10-17 8:02:51 PM  
berylman: Worst Motley Crue inspired shooting range song evar

But it keeps the strippers there nimble...
 
The Pope of Manwich Village [TotalFark]
2020-10-17 8:03:57 PM  
So...does anyone have one of these .22s that you can break down and fit into a backpack? I'm, uh...asking for a sniper friend of mine.
 
GrizzlyPouch
2020-10-17 8:04:45 PM  

redmid17: GrizzlyPouch: duppy:

"Emboldened racist nut bags"

I guess you could pretend things like the Charleston, South Carolina shooting are common (they aren't)

Or you could recognize there were 440 murders just in Chicago between January and July of 2020....none of which were committed by white supremacists.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcch​icago.com/news/local/chicago-homicides​-rose-by-139-percent-from-last-july-of​ficials-say/2315318/%3famp

What do you think all those emboldened individuals who bought the guns for racist reasons are doing with the guns? Doesn't look like they're using them on other people?

I can promise you no one bought a gun from a gun shop in Chicago last year.


Exactly my point.  Not sure why subby (and some commenters) is trying to pretend Californians buying guns is some kind of problem

(It's not the legally purchased ones anybody should worry about)
 
Crewmannumber6
2020-10-17 8:08:21 PM  
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duncan_bayne
2020-10-17 8:17:31 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: duppy: The pandemic may be part of it, but I'm gonna guess both "emboldened racist nutbags" and "administration bloodthirsty enough to cackle about a quarter-million deaths" also figure prominently for a lot of buyers.

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yes and unchecked riots have nothing to do with it


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jmr61 [BareFark]
2020-10-17 8:20:35 PM  

g.fro: Kit Fister: SwiftFox: Just the standard  reminder again for the new folks:

Rule one: It's loaded

This is why I'm all in favor of requiring training.

Basic firearm safety training should be required the same way sex-ed should be required.

If it were up to me, both would be mandatory high school classes.


You're going to MAKE kids handle guns? Seriously?
 
Znuh [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-10-17 8:21:19 PM  
Libby lib lib here. I'd far rather have the tools and not need them, then vice-versa. Wanted to get a rifle as well, but I was happy to settle on a 45 chambered XDM and a Mossberg 590A1. Full disclosure, I used to shoot when I was younger.

CC is a state right where I live here in Maine, so there was no filling out any extra paperwork. Picked up a Galco Miami II harness which fits nicely, and more importantly is safe to use. The 590A1 lives in this, so there's no questions when I'm headed out to the range to practice: 

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stuffy
2020-10-17 8:29:39 PM  
Look at the bright side. People wont be dying from COVID.
 
I Browse [TotalFark]
2020-10-17 8:31:23 PM  

The Pope of Manwich Village: I'm not going to lie, I thought about getting a gun. I didn't, but I thought about it longer than ever thought I would. It's stupid, but shiat goes through your head sometimes.



I thought about it too. In fact, my wife and I had a long conversation about getting a gun. But like you, in the end, we decided it wasn't worth it.

I'll just rely on good old fashioned fisticuffs to protect myself, like I've done all my life. True, my fists can't stop bullets. But they'll give you one hell of a shiner and a bloody nose!
 
rikkards [TotalFark]
2020-10-17 8:33:09 PM  

The Pope of Manwich Village: So...does anyone have one of these .22s that you can break down and fit into a backpack? I'm, uh...asking for a sniper friend of mine.


I have a 9mm that does (Ruger PC9 Carbine Chassis)
 
AmbassadorBooze
2020-10-17 8:33:37 PM  
Just outlaw guns in CA.  Problem solved.
 
rikkards [TotalFark]
2020-10-17 8:35:44 PM  

I Browse: The Pope of Manwich Village: I'm not going to lie, I thought about getting a gun. I didn't, but I thought about it longer than ever thought I would. It's stupid, but shiat goes through your head sometimes.


I thought about it too. In fact, my wife and I had a long conversation about getting a gun. But like you, in the end, we decided it wasn't worth it.

I'll just rely on good old fashioned fisticuffs to protect myself, like I've done all my life. True, my fists can't stop bullets. But they'll give you one hell of a shiner and a bloody nose!


As seen in in both Kenosha and Denver, add a gun and things get more complicated.
 
Dave and the Mission [TotalFark]
2020-10-17 8:37:32 PM  
Nearly 100% of people who have had their Covid treated with guns have not died from Covid.  I call it a win.
 
Dave and the Mission [TotalFark]
2020-10-17 8:40:53 PM  

Abox: Your_Huckleberry: Picked up a shotgun in February, so I guess that counts. Yay, Contributer!

I sold a shotgun in July.  To a gun store.  So it evens out.


I get your snark, but depending on who is doing the counting, this could easily qualify as a gun sale for purposes of claiming high numbers of gun sales.

/I bought gun locks and a safe.
 
Andy Andy
2020-10-17 8:45:18 PM  

g.fro: Kit Fister: SwiftFox: Just the standard  reminder again for the new folks:

Rule one: It's loaded

This is why I'm all in favor of requiring training.

Basic firearm safety training should be required the same way sex-ed should be required.

If it were up to me, both would be mandatory high school classes.


My kids get both - before high school here.
 
deadsanta
2020-10-17 8:52:25 PM  
Yeah Blacks getting massacred buy guns, so Hispanics and Asians figure they're probably next, also buy guns, and then white people see all the POC buying guns...

Pretty much just the way the NRA and manufacturers wanted it to turn out.
 
The_Sponge [TotalFark]
2020-10-17 8:52:30 PM  
It's a damn shame California's firearm laws are so awful.
 
Billy Liar
2020-10-17 8:53:23 PM  
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Billy Liar
2020-10-17 8:54:23 PM  
Scott Baio is sh*tting himself now.
 
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2020-10-17 9:00:21 PM  
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g.fro
2020-10-17 9:05:59 PM  

jmr61: ...
You're going to MAKE kids handle guns? Seriously?


Do you know a better way to teach them how to be safe?

I bet there were a lot of parents who said, "you want to teach kids how to put on a condom?" Probably still are.

Of course, sex-ed is not exactly "hands-on" (or at least mine wasn't). No need for gun-safety to be.
 
JAGChem82
2020-10-17 9:11:31 PM  

deadsanta: Yeah Blacks getting massacred buy guns, so Hispanics and Asians figure they're probably next, also buy guns, and then white people see all the POC buying guns...

Pretty much just the way the NRA and manufacturers wanted it to turn out.


I get the gist of your post, but far too many liberals, until this year, have stayed away from guns/firearms ownership out of a false belief of what gun ownership means.

D pols think that the only gun owners that exist are a bunch of Cletus Confederates in camo and they actively discourage their constituents from participating in the 2A responsibly. I'm not saying they need to go air commercials with them showing off their 9 mm or AR-15, but stop letting them control the narrative about firearms ownership.
 
The_Sponge [TotalFark]
2020-10-17 9:12:04 PM  

jmr61: g.fro: Kit Fister: SwiftFox: Just the standard  reminder again for the new folks:

Rule one: It's loaded

This is why I'm all in favor of requiring training.

Basic firearm safety training should be required the same way sex-ed should be required.

If it were up to me, both would be mandatory high school classes.

You're going to MAKE kids handle guns? Seriously?


I'm a controlled/safe environment, yes.

I shot my first firearm when I was 6 or 7....a .22 rifle on my Grandpa's property.

/Parents never owned firearms.
//Bought my first one when I was 18 and still in high school.
 
Begoggle
2020-10-17 9:18:49 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Just outlaw guns in CA.  Problem solved.


Just outlaw abortion.
Problem solved.
 
Mikey1969 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-10-17 9:23:21 PM  

Target Builder: "About 110,000 Californians have bought a gun since the coronavirus arrived, study says"

Is that all? That's .3% of the population, and half of them already owned guns?


This is Uber liberal, nanny state California, which is probably why this rates as news.
 
Mikey1969 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-10-17 9:25:47 PM  

wruley: My Son and Daughter bought me a gun for Father's day. Ammo has been sold out all 3 times I went to buy some. The range only had target rounds. I expected Bass Pro, Schiells, or Cabella's to have some...nope. All sold out of 45 rounds.


That's the problem. I want to go shooting, but ammo is as scarce as an honest Republican nowadays.
 
cefm [TotalFark]
2020-10-17 9:38:22 PM  
People who buy guns in an emergency think that everyone else is as terrible as they are.
 
Your_Huckleberry
2020-10-17 9:40:36 PM  

Abox: Your_Huckleberry: Picked up a shotgun in February, so I guess that counts. Yay, Contributer!

I sold a shotgun in July.  To a gun store.  So it evens out.


A perfect circle!
 
Trik
2020-10-17 9:43:41 PM  
I didn't expect so many liberals to surrender their beliefs and values so easily.
 
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