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2020-10-17 1:14:22 PM  
The company I work for is giving us a couple hundred this year to set ourselves up from home and $100 a year for those of us affected by the office closures (moving about half the workforce to permanently remote status). Because leases had to be broken, we were not able to take the sweet-ass chairs (they and other office furniture are part of negotiations) but we were allowed to take any printer paper, office supplies, kitchen gear, etc.

I think they're doing the best they can with a real shiat situation.
 
2020-10-17 1:58:06 PM  
I am just hoping that the older folks in leadership recognize what a cost savings this will be.  The whole "you're obviously not working if I can't watch you" model is done.  Look at results and make decisions from there.

I got a call this week from someone who could not log in remotely.  I granted their access on July 23rd.  They had not attempted to log in until this week, and that was only because their supervisor started pressing them for results.  She gave every excuse in the book to try and explain everything away, but it is clear that she does not intend to do any work.  People like that need to be laid off.  People who cannot join wireless networks in their own homes are not qualified to work remotely and should be replaced.
 
2020-10-17 2:03:04 PM  
Uh, you can turn that right around and say, the company is greedy, selfish and petty for not supporting
their employees who are working and producing what is expected of them..It's all a point of view
situation..
 
2020-10-17 2:05:39 PM  
I've been teleworking since March. I already pay for my own internet for the whole family anyway, so I don't mind that, and I already had a good computer all ready to go.

The only thing I'd ask for would be a good ergo chair. I'm still sitting on a wooden kitchen table chair, and my butt goes numb after a while.
 
2020-10-17 2:09:35 PM  

Kornchex: People who cannot join wireless networks in their own homes are not qualified to work remotely and should be replaced.


That's a dangerous thing to say unless it's the opening sentence for you passioned plea for universal basic income.
 
2020-10-17 2:45:30 PM  

educated: That's a dangerous thing to say unless it's the opening sentence for you passioned plea for universal basic income.


Very true.

In my personal experience, 100% of people that cannot join their own wireless networks do not want to join their own wireless networks so they do not have to work.  That definitely is not always the case, so I retract my statement.
 
2020-10-17 2:57:02 PM  

Kornchex: educated: That's a dangerous thing to say unless it's the opening sentence for you passioned plea for universal basic income.

Very true.

In my personal experience, 100% of people that cannot join their own wireless networks do not want to join their own wireless networks so they do not have to work.  That definitely is not always the case, so I retract my statement.


There's a lot of other experience out there, most of it is not yours. I personally work with people who do not have high speed internet at home, but whose office-based job was high-speed internet-dependent.
These are trusted colleagues - people who are amazing at their jobs - people who work their asses off.

We definitely should not just let them go. If their job's physical location changes, their employer's efforts to facilitate the job should as well.
 
2020-10-17 3:27:08 PM  
A neighbor was just fired for not being able to work from home.
The only decent computer they had in the house was their kids laptop they got from school and was being used for that.
Only other thing they had was a 10 year old POC.

Since they couldn't work, they got fired.
 
2020-10-17 3:46:08 PM  

freddyV: A neighbor was just fired for not being able to work from home.
The only decent computer they had in the house was their kids laptop they got from school and was being used for that.
Only other thing they had was a 10 year old POC.

Since they couldn't work, they got fired.


A ten year old person of color in no way should be working. They should be in school.
 
2020-10-17 3:47:28 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: freddyV: A neighbor was just fired for not being able to work from home.
The only decent computer they had in the house was their kids laptop they got from school and was being used for that.
Only other thing they had was a 10 year old POC.

Since they couldn't work, they got fired.

A ten year old person of color in no way should be working. They should be in school.


Piece Of Crap.  Been on fark for years and I still don't know the filters.
 
2020-10-17 3:56:06 PM  

Mr. Shabooboo: Uh, you can turn that right around and say, the company is greedy, selfish and petty for not supporting
their employees who are working and producing what is expected of them..It's all a point of view
situation..


We have already seen pay cuts to those working from home. I'm gonna side with the workers here. Hell I support users who have to use their own equipment to work remotely and it looks like there is no budget set aside to address this in the future. What happens if their computers or whatever fail? Is it on them or the business that profits from their work?
 
2020-10-17 4:37:33 PM  
My brother is a contract lawyer, and started working from home well before the pandemic. When the pandemic hit, most of the company employees started working from home. His company thought it was working well, and dumped the office lease they had. Permanent work-from-home status.
Gotta say I'm jealous, but I don't have a work-from-home career unfortunately.
 
2020-10-17 4:42:18 PM  
When I used to go into work and drop my daily Havana omelette* on company time, they'd pay for the paper and water and soap.
Now I gotta pay for this at home?  Fark that.

*do not google
 
2020-10-17 4:45:14 PM  
If work from home is permanent I think the restaurant industry is clear and properly farked worse than it already is. I can't speak for other people but I'm not sure I eat prepared food at home more than 6 times a year. As opposed to work and school where it's probably 6 times every two weeks.
 
2020-10-17 4:46:54 PM  
Businesses are also way more reliable catering customers than individuals.
 
2020-10-17 4:47:43 PM  

freddyV: A neighbor was just fired for not being able to work from home.
The only decent computer they had in the house was their kids laptop they got from school and was being used for that.
Only other thing they had was a 10 year old POC.

Since they couldn't work, they got fired.


So, they couldn't pick up a computer off Craigslist for a couple hundo to keep their job? Sounds like they wanted to quit.
 
2020-10-17 4:52:20 PM  
When I took my new job, my company couriered to me a laptop, two monitors, a dock to link all the equipment together, and an iPad to run the main app we deploy technical solutions through. They also offered employees a modest stipend to spend on faster internet connections. I can't imagine working from home without that kind of support from my company.
 
2020-10-17 4:53:52 PM  
My wife's company is paying an extra $100 per pay period for work from home expenses. Of course she's working way harder too.
 
2020-10-17 5:15:33 PM  

educated: Kornchex: educated: That's a dangerous thing to say unless it's the opening sentence for you passioned plea for universal basic income.

Very true.

In my personal experience, 100% of people that cannot join their own wireless networks do not want to join their own wireless networks so they do not have to work.  That definitely is not always the case, so I retract my statement.

There's a lot of other experience out there, most of it is not yours. I personally work with people who do not have high speed internet at home, but whose office-based job was high-speed internet-dependent.
These are trusted colleagues - people who are amazing at their jobs - people who work their asses off.

We definitely should not just let them go. If their job's physical location changes, their employer's efforts to facilitate the job should as well.


'Not being able to connect' wasn't the important part of Kornchex's cs,b to me. It was 'Apparently not reaching out for help in getting connected for almost 3 months'.
 
2020-10-17 5:45:31 PM  
My company didn't give me the option.  I still have to go in and check voice, e and snail mail.  But even with the lower revenues, our income hasn't been affected because our utilities and other expenses have dropped.

The utility companies are the ones watching their corporate revenues drop while people are using their residential rated utilities for business.  Employers that have smart accounting personnel will be shown how much they can save paying utilities to workers at home.  It's a separate check, with supporting documents, so that the employer proves they are just reimbursing expenses.  Tax neutral.

For example  my job uses Comcast business plan with bundling to get high speed.  It costs the company over $500 a month.  I pay less than $225 a month for the residential package, with the same result.  Cut me a check for any amount over my basic $225.  I can show the same savings for water, electricity, and natural gas.  My employer is doing that for everyone else, but I get nothing because I'm in the office.
 
2020-10-17 5:58:13 PM  

mrmopar5287: freddyV: A neighbor was just fired for not being able to work from home.
The only decent computer they had in the house was their kids laptop they got from school and was being used for that.
Only other thing they had was a 10 year old POC.

Since they couldn't work, they got fired.

So, they couldn't pick up a computer off Craigslist for a couple hundo to keep their job? Sounds like they wanted to quit.


I don't see why a company doesn't just have people come into the office and get their desk PC?!?
Good lord we trust 6 year olds with $1000+ dollar iPads..A generic tan box pc bought in bulk
for office work shouldn't be a problem..In fact, just give the employees the things and write it off..
This isn't brain surgery
 
2020-10-17 5:59:42 PM  

Serious Black: When I took my new job, my company couriered to me a laptop, two monitors, a dock to link all the equipment together, and an iPad to run the main app we deploy technical solutions through. They also offered employees a modest stipend to spend on faster internet connections. I can't imagine working from home without that kind of support from my company.


Yep. Even for the gig I just finished, the agency provided the hardware I used (as an aside, it was required for security purposes - NDA-protected content & code) and provided the means by which to return it.

And that's expected. What isn't expected is to have my agency cover my ISP, or my phone bill - any cost that I would've incurred whether I was working for the agency at home or on site shouldn't be covered at all by my agency.
 
2020-10-17 6:05:56 PM  

Mr. Shabooboo: mrmopar5287: freddyV: A neighbor was just fired for not being able to work from home.
The only decent computer they had in the house was their kids laptop they got from school and was being used for that.
Only other thing they had was a 10 year old POC.

Since they couldn't work, they got fired.

So, they couldn't pick up a computer off Craigslist for a couple hundo to keep their job? Sounds like they wanted to quit.

I don't see why a company doesn't just have people come into the office and get their desk PC?!?
Good lord we trust 6 year olds with $1000+ dollar iPads..A generic tan box pc bought in bulk
for office work shouldn't be a problem..In fact, just give the employees the things and write it off..
This isn't brain surgery


That was my other obvious question. Work can't issue her a computer? Seriously, not a single laptop for an employee to work from home?
 
2020-10-17 6:14:59 PM  
I had a remote position with my old job that let me expense a portion of my internet costs, so I'm a little annoyed my current company isn't at least covering the $30 extra a month Comcast charges for unlimited bandwidth. They at least let me grab my 34" ultrawide monitor from my desk at work. I also spent about $300 for a new desk and office chair, and we spent about another $250 for a new modem and router after we tweaked our Comcast plan to boost it up to 600 Mbps while cutting some channels (we dropped HBO and a few other channels because our cell phone plan comes with HBO Max, making regular HBO redundant), but that actually saved us about $20 a month.

For my wife, they let her take home her office chair and they are letting her order new LaserJet cartridges on the company dime. We had to buy a $150 HP LaserJet on our own dime back in March when this all started and it works great for the moderate level of printing that she does, and I can use it when I need it.
 
2020-10-17 6:51:15 PM  

educated: Kornchex: People who cannot join wireless networks in their own homes are not qualified to work remotely and should be replaced.

That's a dangerous thing to say unless it's the opening sentence for you passioned plea for universal basic income.


It's long past time to stop treating the internet as a luxury and start treating it as the necessity it is today.

https://tv.avclub.com/the-telecommuni​c​ations-act-of-1996-gave-us-shiatty-cel​l-1798250823
 
2020-10-17 8:08:57 PM  

mrmopar5287: Mr. Shabooboo: mrmopar5287: freddyV: A neighbor was just fired for not being able to work from home.
The only decent computer they had in the house was their kids laptop they got from school and was being used for that.
Only other thing they had was a 10 year old POC.

Since they couldn't work, they got fired.

So, they couldn't pick up a computer off Craigslist for a couple hundo to keep their job? Sounds like they wanted to quit.

I don't see why a company doesn't just have people come into the office and get their desk PC?!?
Good lord we trust 6 year olds with $1000+ dollar iPads..A generic tan box pc bought in bulk
for office work shouldn't be a problem..In fact, just give the employees the things and write it off..
This isn't brain surgery

That was my other obvious question. Work can't issue her a computer? Seriously, not a single laptop for an employee to work from home?


I work as an IT Engineer at a TV station.  when everything hit the fan back in March, it pretty much fell on me to try to scrounge up enough equipment to keep people working out of the building.  we were somewhat fortunate - our station was bought out by another company last fall and they did a major refresh of our computers so our reporters, photographers, and sales already had laptops and hotspots to work from pretty much anywhere. i had a pile of old half-broken laptops left over from the equipment refresh that I fixed and reimaged and got them to the producers, local programming folks, etc to keep them working from home.  some took their desktops with them - that was fine with me and my company was fine with it.

the biggest problem I had was with people that didn't have an internet connection at home. we have three people in one of the administration departments, and out of those three nobody had an internet connection.  one was able to find somewhere to work from with an internet connection until he could get it hooked up at his house.  the other two are older and close to retirement age and weren't interested in getting the internet at home.  I ended up giving both of them a laptop, and one got a hotspot and the other an iPhone and lessons on how to turn it into a hotspot.  that was exhausting.  she's also the one that pretty much refused to leave because we didn't have a printer to give her.  she kept showing up everyday like nothing was wrong and working even though she was told not to be here.  her reason was that since she didn't have a printer at home, she wasn't able to print out the missing spots for the day and hand it to the media manager because that's what she'd do every day.  after explaining the concept of email to her and the fact that she was going to be fired if she came back, she finally stopped showing up.  I'm not convinced she's actually doing any work from home, but at this point I just don't care.

we got through it and made do with what we had.  and meanwhile I've been coming into work everyday like usual.  but if you work for a company that wants you to work remotely and can't or won't give you the equipment to do it - there's no excuse for that
 
2020-10-17 8:11:25 PM  
But that generosity isn't that common: only 1 in 10 employers have offered workers subsidies to manage the costs of working from home, according to a July survey by global insurance giant Willis Towers Watson.

Well that's messed up. I for one expect a healthy stipend to pay for the essentials: Uniform (underwear) & lunch (Flamin' Hot Crunchy Cheetos).
 
2020-10-17 8:18:38 PM  

Mad_Radhu: I had a remote position with my old job that let me expense a portion of my internet costs, so I'm a little annoyed my current company isn't at least covering the $30 extra a month Comcast charges for unlimited bandwidth. They at least let me grab my 34" ultrawide monitor from my desk at work. I also spent about $300 for a new desk and office chair, and we spent about another $250 for a new modem and router after we tweaked our Comcast plan to boost it up to 600 Mbps while cutting some channels (we dropped HBO and a few other channels because our cell phone plan comes with HBO Max, making regular HBO redundant), but that actually saved us about $20 a month.

For my wife, they let her take home her office chair and they are letting her order new LaserJet cartridges on the company dime. We had to buy a $150 HP LaserJet on our own dime back in March when this all started and it works great for the moderate level of printing that she does, and I can use it when I need it.


Not sure what your carrier is but xfinity mobile is a great deal and an even better deal when you are on home wifi a large majority of the time, you should check it out.

Also great choice on a laserjet. With reasonable care they will last for a very long time and given that toner can't ever dry out you won't see the same issues you would see with a basically disposable inkjet printer.

As far as for me I now don't have to make my daily reasonably long commute and am saving on gas, eating out, auto wear and tear and probably a few other expenses. However I fortunately already had a half decent desktop/chair so I mostly just needed to get used to using it for more than gaming.
 
2020-10-17 8:48:15 PM  

mrmopar5287: freddyV: A neighbor was just fired for not being able to work from home.
The only decent computer they had in the house was their kids laptop they got from school and was being used for that.
Only other thing they had was a 10 year old POC.

Since they couldn't work, they got fired.

So, they couldn't pick up a computer off Craigslist for a couple hundo to keep their job? Sounds like they wanted to quit.


Company sounds not just cheap but pretty stupid to demand that its employees buy computers to connect to its network.  Sounds like a security nightmare waiting to happen.
 
2020-10-17 9:30:58 PM  

wax_on: My wife's company is paying an extra $100 per pay period for work from home expenses. Of course she's working way harder too.


I believe I read (Harvard Business Review, I think) that in a study those who work from home tend to work longer because they aren't talking to coworkers all day being distracted, don't take breaks (no one to socialize with generally, house plants don't count) and you kind of lose track of hours because you're not focused on the clock to avoid traffic/go to happy hour/leave the office. They also tend to work through Zoom/call-in meetings because they aren't worried about being judged by coworkers that can see them zoned out.

Citibank announced their workers won't be coming back to the offices until June 2021 at the earliest, and I bet we're going to see at least a decade of a lot of WFH employment (for those that can do it). I know in consulting companies are enjoying not having to pay for airfare and hotels and per-diems for employees.
 
2020-10-17 9:57:04 PM  
I'm just happy we work from home on Fridays.  I'm sure a stipend is out of the question.

I'm on the road 20% of the time but I have a corp card and car so no money's going out of my accounts so it all evens out.

No reason for me to go in the office unless I want to use the copier and drink free coffee.

I feel lucky.
 
2020-10-17 9:58:25 PM  

OhioUGrad: wax_on: My wife's company is paying an extra $100 per pay period for work from home expenses. Of course she's working way harder too.

I believe I read (Harvard Business Review, I think) that in a study those who work from home tend to work longer because they aren't talking to coworkers all day being distracted, don't take breaks (no one to socialize with generally, house plants don't count) and you kind of lose track of hours because you're not focused on the clock to avoid traffic/go to happy hour/leave the office. They also tend to work through Zoom/call-in meetings because they aren't worried about being judged by coworkers that can see them zoned out.

Citibank announced their workers won't be coming back to the offices until June 2021 at the earliest, and I bet we're going to see at least a decade of a lot of WFH employment (for those that can do it). I know in consulting companies are enjoying not having to pay for airfare and hotels and per-diems for employees.


for the most part, my company has been getting roughly an extra hour out of the day since I started WFH, given that I don't have a 50 minute commute both ways....but that difference is probably made up by the occasional breaks to check on the kids who are doing remote learning, and taking out the dog more often.
 
2020-10-17 10:12:47 PM  

educated: Kornchex: People who cannot join wireless networks in their own homes are not qualified to work remotely and should be replaced.

That's a dangerous thing to say unless it's the opening sentence for you passioned plea for universal basic income.


Nope. No different than requiring you own transportation.
 
2020-10-17 10:14:21 PM  

educated: Kornchex: educated: That's a dangerous thing to say unless it's the opening sentence for you passioned plea for universal basic income.

Very true.

In my personal experience, 100% of people that cannot join their own wireless networks do not want to join their own wireless networks so they do not have to work.  That definitely is not always the case, so I retract my statement.

There's a lot of other experience out there, most of it is not yours. I personally work with people who do not have high speed internet at home, but whose office-based job was high-speed internet-dependent.
These are trusted colleagues - people who are amazing at their jobs - people who work their asses off.

We definitely should not just let them go. If their job's physical location changes, their employer's efforts to facilitate the job should as well.


So, no one else can do what they do? Everyone is replaceable.
 
2020-10-17 10:20:52 PM  

IHadMeAVision: If work from home is permanent I think the restaurant industry is clear and properly farked worse than it already is. I can't speak for other people but I'm not sure I eat prepared food at home more than 6 times a year. As opposed to work and school where it's probably 6 times every two weeks.


It's  more than just restaurants at stake.
 
2020-10-17 10:22:44 PM  
My teaching from home setup:
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The laptop, the document camera, and one of the external monitors belong to the university. I bought an additional monitor and an external microphone, and the iPad is mine. I also upgraded my internet, which is costing me an additional $10 a month. This week the university announced furloughs which will cut my salary. But we do it for the students, right?
 
2020-10-17 10:48:47 PM  

OhioUGrad: wax_on: My wife's company is paying an extra $100 per pay period for work from home expenses. Of course she's working way harder too.

I believe I read (Harvard Business Review, I think) that in a study those who work from home tend to work longer because they aren't talking to coworkers all day being distracted, don't take breaks (no one to socialize with generally, house plants don't count) and you kind of lose track of hours because you're not focused on the clock to avoid traffic/go to happy hour/leave the office. They also tend to work through Zoom/call-in meetings because they aren't worried about being judged by coworkers that can see them zoned out.

Citibank announced their workers won't be coming back to the offices until June 2021 at the earliest, and I bet we're going to see at least a decade of a lot of WFH employment (for those that can do it). I know in consulting companies are enjoying not having to pay for airfare and hotels and per-diems for employees.


Consulting clients' CFOs are going to start negotiating lower rates because of this, if they aren't already.
 
2020-10-17 10:58:59 PM  

Spermbot: Consulting clients' CFOs are going to start negotiating lower rates because of this, if they aren't already.


Clients are offering lower rates, and in fact, bottomed out in late April and early May. They are slowly coming back up, but they are trying to get top-tier talent with horrible rates...I foresee a lot of farked up projects and a bunch of consultants laughing and demanding even higher rates to fix their fark ups.

/sorry, you just don't get quality developers, project managers, QA, BA, testing, etc for like $40-50/hr
 
2020-10-17 11:43:01 PM  

bfh0417: educated: Kornchex: educated: That's a dangerous thing to say unless it's the opening sentence for you passioned plea for universal basic income.

Very true.

In my personal experience, 100% of people that cannot join their own wireless networks do not want to join their own wireless networks so they do not have to work.  That definitely is not always the case, so I retract my statement.

There's a lot of other experience out there, most of it is not yours. I personally work with people who do not have high speed internet at home, but whose office-based job was high-speed internet-dependent.
These are trusted colleagues - people who are amazing at their jobs - people who work their asses off.

We definitely should not just let them go. If their job's physical location changes, their employer's efforts to facilitate the job should as well.

So, no one else can do what they do? Everyone is replaceable.


You sound like a jerk who has also never managed a successful team.
 
2020-10-17 11:51:45 PM  

cherryl taggart: My company didn't give me the option.  I still have to go in and check voice, e and snail mail.  But even with the lower revenues, our income hasn't been affected because our utilities and other expenses have dropped.

The utility companies are the ones watching their corporate revenues drop while people are using their residential rated utilities for business.  Employers that have smart accounting personnel will be shown how much they can save paying utilities to workers at home.  It's a separate check, with supporting documents, so that the employer proves they are just reimbursing expenses.  Tax neutral.

For example  my job uses Comcast business plan with bundling to get high speed.  It costs the company over $500 a month.  I pay less than $225 a month for the residential package, with the same result.  Cut me a check for any amount over my basic $225.  I can show the same savings for water, electricity, and natural gas.  My employer is doing that for everyone else, but I get nothing because I'm in the office.


How long until Comcast realizes people are using their residential packages for work and increases the fees?
 
2020-10-18 12:26:51 AM  
Sometime in April after a bad episode with my back I went into the office and left with my chair and big monitor. On the way out I insisted with securiy that I "check" these items out and they reluctantly did so.
 
2020-10-18 12:53:38 AM  

bfh0417: educated: Kornchex: educated: That's a dangerous thing to say unless it's the opening sentence for you passioned plea for universal basic income.

Very true.

In my personal experience, 100% of people that cannot join their own wireless networks do not want to join their own wireless networks so they do not have to work.  That definitely is not always the case, so I retract my statement.

There's a lot of other experience out there, most of it is not yours. I personally work with people who do not have high speed internet at home, but whose office-based job was high-speed internet-dependent.
These are trusted colleagues - people who are amazing at their jobs - people who work their asses off.

We definitely should not just let them go. If their job's physical location changes, their employer's efforts to facilitate the job should as well.

So, no one else can do what they do? Everyone is replaceable.


"Everybody is replaceable" is an ill attitude.
 
2020-10-18 1:24:46 AM  
Seriously?
We spent like $20k on new laptops for project managers. Those already with laptops took them home. Those with towers either took them home, or if it was time to replace, they got laptops instead. Everybody took home whatever monitors they wanted. Several of us took the task chairs. Those who needed cams and/or mic'd headphones got them. Whomever asked for us to pay their cell phone bills, we did. We still had virtual happy hour, oftentimes starting at 2 just because it had been a hard week and we all deserved it.
As said above, this isn't brain surgery. Make everything as easy as possible for staff, within reason, and that's it. I actually couldn't imagine doing it any other way.
 
2020-10-18 2:09:36 AM  
This is going to be one of those times the good companies can get a solid leg up on their competition. As more people can work from home, they can be less choosy with regards to things like commuting and start times. So now they will have an easier time jumping ship if they feel they're not getting support they need.

So much easier to do phone interviews when you don't have to worry about the boss listening in.
 
2020-10-18 2:14:06 AM  

OhioUGrad: wax_on: My wife's company is paying an extra $100 per pay period for work from home expenses. Of course she's working way harder too.

I believe I read (Harvard Business Review, I think) that in a study those who work from home tend to work longer because they aren't talking to coworkers all day being distracted, don't take breaks (no one to socialize with generally, house plants don't count) and you kind of lose track of hours because you're not focused on the clock to avoid traffic/go to happy hour/leave the office. They also tend to work through Zoom/call-in meetings because they aren't worried about being judged by coworkers that can see them zoned out.

Citibank announced their workers won't be coming back to the offices until June 2021 at the earliest, and I bet we're going to see at least a decade of a lot of WFH employment (for those that can do it). I know in consulting companies are enjoying not having to pay for airfare and hotels and per-diems for employees.


Can confirm all of this. WFH is great for a while, then you realize that it actually blows ass that (a) the bedroom (b) the kitchen (c) the "office" (d) the "gym" are all within 10 seconds of one another.

All sense of separation and ordering breaks down.

Unless something else takes me out of the house, I don't work 8 hours a day, I half-work 16 hours a day. Everything else - meals, clothes, cleaning, exercise, shopping - is just sort of sprinkled in between.
 
2020-10-18 3:09:35 AM  
Our company has been going the other way. The boss wants us in the office MORE.

When I started there, one of the perks was that since we all have laptops, work can be from anywhere. But now that WFH may be necessary due to a pandemic that he doesn't believe in, that's now off the table. He has to "authorize" work from home through a Slack workflow. I now find it's easier to just take a day off if I need to be home for half a day for something. He's gotten paranoid that he can't watch anyone work for some reason.
 
2020-10-18 3:27:10 AM  

Chevello: Our company has been going the other way. The boss wants us in the office MORE.

When I started there, one of the perks was that since we all have laptops, work can be from anywhere. But now that WFH may be necessary due to a pandemic that he doesn't believe in, that's now off the table. He has to "authorize" work from home through a Slack workflow. I now find it's easier to just take a day off if I need to be home for half a day for something. He's gotten paranoid that he can't watch anyone work for some reason.


There are so many bad bosses. How do bosses not know of the "day after" review? It's sad. A good boss will trust you, and know how to look back a day ago and determine what you did... No constant monitoring required. Which begs the question. WTF are these bosses doing all day if they are trying to "snoop" constantly.
 
2020-10-18 3:39:42 AM  
Seems like this is a good year for people to learn about how to do work expenses tax stuff instead of whining like spoiled children
 
2020-10-18 4:38:27 AM  
Well, since Yahoo did a cull based on who could fit in the office 20 years ago, I'm not surprised.
 
2020-10-18 6:41:30 AM  
Corporate America won't be satisfied until this becomes a reality:

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"YOU FILTHY PEONS AREN'T THINKING ABOUT THE SHAREHOLDERS ENOUGH! THINK ABOUT THEM! THINK!"
 
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