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2020-10-17 11:09:30 AM  
As if Democrats would ever curb military spending.

Even the centrists' progressive icon Bernie liked military contracts that provided work in his state.
 
2020-10-17 11:13:12 AM  

Nuclear Monk: Opacity: Didn't Hobby Lobby shut down because of ObamaCare?

Oh wait, they didn't

Only because they were finally allowed to deny their female employees birth control pills.  I mean, if that would have been allowed to continue on...can you just imagine?

/No...you can't imagine
//you only think about yourself.


Ah yes, the "any business is a religion when it's convenient" system. Thanks for reminding everyone of their real exploit.
 
2020-10-17 11:13:35 AM  

I want that sauce Morty!: I'm going to bet this place pays somewhere around $10/hr and has the bare minimum of what's required under Obamacare.


Where my husband works several jobs should be done by one of the engineers or someone with years of experience. Instead they run a half a dozen techs and some kid who finished university a couple years ago to sign off on the work a babysit the revolving door of techs that make $12/hr and have a 50% turn over rate because really Walmart will pay you $10/hr to move carts around with no actual responsibilities and probably has better insurance. The only bonus to this place is no drug test and they don't ask about your criminal record. Hell, they recruit at the local prison job fair. There are more neck tattoos than a biker bar, and that's really why they can fark with people because where else are you going to work?
No I don't know why he's so attached to the place. Stockholm syndrome probably.
 
2020-10-17 11:13:47 AM  
Time for these people to find new jobs. If I got this, I'd be looking the next day.
 
2020-10-17 11:14:09 AM  
This is what happens when you get rid of unions or weaken them to the point of irrelevance. So of course it's something republicans focus on.
 
2020-10-17 11:14:58 AM  

inglixthemad: qorkfiend: "Beginning in late 2020 or early 2021"

In other words, before the evil Biden administration even has a chance to take office? One suspects the impending layoffs aren't actually due to hypothetical cuts in military spending which wouldn't even materialize until 2022 at the earliest.

One of my clients is a decent sized defense contractor, well one of its wholly owned subsidiaries is anyway. They don't worry about the political party in power because neither really cuts down the military budget. They change priorities a little bit, but the hardware is the same in any case. The CIO of the company, a reasonably decent fellow, noted the only thing that really changes is the delivery schedule. Oh, and he notes that sometimes the cyclical swings are a bit smaller under democratic administrations. You don't get wild profits, but you don't have the risk of YUUGGGEEEE losses either. So the stability makes some planning easier. That being said, they're not big fans of Trump. Too much volatility, too many changes with classic allies making things a complete clusterfark.

Of course they don't pull this shiat at all, with employees, because they're not idijits.


I did defense base act litigation for a while and the only thing that changed in administrations was if it was fluor or kbr hiring balkans to work at our bases in iraq.
 
2020-10-17 11:19:12 AM  

GhostOfSavageHenry: So it's ok for someones employer to threaten and bribe them with their employment? It's starting to sound like capitalism just ain't compatible with representative government. Is that really the message they want to send? seems a little stupid.


Capitalist Societies are never Republics, except perhaps in name. When the only people permitted to influence or create policy are the same people those policies would affect, the policies are written to have a positive effect on the policy makers. In this, money talks.

See American Banks, land speculators, property management companies and large manufacturers that are utterly dependent on foreign sources for their raw materials.
 
2020-10-17 11:20:40 AM  
Pre-modding myself

"Exhorting illegal acts"
 
2020-10-17 11:24:26 AM  

macadamnut: vudukungfu: Don't fark with the democracy we laid down lives for.
This company's president should be in prison
Now

And in the 1700s he would have been horsewhipped in public.

In the 1700s most of his employees would have been slaves. Only white males could vote, and since there was no secret ballot, their employers would know who they voted for.

What country are you from?


Counterpoint, Florida wasn't part of the union in the 1700s. It became a state in 1845 and was sparsely populated until the invention of AC and people realized it was a nice place to retire in. Hence the unofficial name "God's waiting room."

/From Florida.
 
2020-10-17 11:24:59 AM  

saywhonow: OhioUGrad: Dead for Tax Reasons: tell everyone at work you are voting for biden, then sue for discrimination when you get fired

Political affiliation is not a protected class.

Better to just update your resume and find an exit now than to work for such a giant asshole. Then, when all his employees (or even half) quit, and he goes under then he'll be left crying or trying to hire illegals (then report him to authorities).

Nope, but here in Michigan:

This means that it is illegal for your employer, or anyone else, to buy your vote, or pay you to not vote.  It also means that your employer cannot fire or threaten to fire you to try to get you to vote a certain way.

You can't threaten someone to vote a certain way. Voter intimidating isn't just with guns, you can also do it with their job.


California has similar laws as well.
 
2020-10-17 11:27:48 AM  

saywhonow: OhioUGrad: Dead for Tax Reasons: tell everyone at work you are voting for biden, then sue for discrimination when you get fired

Political affiliation is not a protected class.

Better to just update your resume and find an exit now than to work for such a giant asshole. Then, when all his employees (or even half) quit, and he goes under then he'll be left crying or trying to hire illegals (then report him to authorities).

Nope, but here in Michigan:

This means that it is illegal for your employer, or anyone else, to buy your vote, or pay you to not vote.  It also means that your employer cannot fire or threaten to fire you to try to get you to vote a certain way.

You can't threaten someone to vote a certain way. Voter intimidating isn't just with guns, you can also do it with their job.


Interesting, I've never thought of it that way. I would think that would apply in all states then, and not just Xichigan.

Either way, the guy does not deserve to be in business. He probably thinks he did everything himself too, back to that famous Obama speech that rapepublicans always misquote.
 
2020-10-17 11:29:53 AM  
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2020-10-17 11:34:00 AM  

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Florida's a "right-to-work" state, so good luck with that
 
2020-10-17 11:37:11 AM  

phalamir: vudukungfu: Don't fark with the democracy we laid down lives for.
This company's president should be in prison
Now

And in the 1700s he would have been horsewhipped in public.

In the 1700s, every place on Earth went out of their way to insure no one who wasn't a 1%er could vote.  This man would have been lauded as a True Defender of [insert whatever nation you want].  The only people who would have been horsewhipped were his employees.  Then put in prison.  Then never get out because the room, board, and fees they would have been charged to be in prison would have vastly outstripped the meager pay they received before they lost their jobs for being in prison.  Well, actually, lost their jobs for daring to act like they had any rights - and then put in prison for daring to think they had any rights.  And I'm making the assumption all of the employees are white Christian men - get rid of any of those and they aren't going to prison, they are hanging from a tree at the edge of town.


In the 1700s the vast majority of people could not vote for anything, even the 1%ers in Europe. It was just a strange thing people in the UK and some colonies did until the French started chopping off heads and dominating the continent. Even then, most people in the world still couldn't vote for anything. Elected government is fairly new.
 
2020-10-17 11:39:43 AM  
Does this need to be reported as a campaign contribution?
 
2020-10-17 11:40:35 AM  

neongoats: Yeah NASA won't need parts anymore if Joe is elected? In addition to having no morals this piece of shiat is also profoundly farking stupid.


Especially because part of the layoffs (in late 2020) would happen BEFORE Biden even took office.

This guy is performing voting intimidation, period.

But it sounds like he is planning on firing the liberals that work for him if Trump loses just out of spite.

/Business is probably failing already and this is way of using it as a weapon
 
2020-10-17 11:40:56 AM  

Burn_The_Plows: Dead for Tax Reasons: tell everyone at work you are voting for biden, then sue for discrimination when you get fired

You will not win that lawsuit in any "right-to-work" state unless your employer specifically states that you were fired for that reason.

But then again, they're Trumpers, so maybe they won't listen to their attorneys and put that in writing.


Right to work refers to the requirement to join a union for a position.  At will is the term you are looking for.  And it's in every state except Montana.

A few states have protections for being fired for political affiliation, but there is no federal statute to prevent it.
 
2020-10-17 11:42:10 AM  

Sophont: Jail this farker.
Voter intimidation.


Sadly in most areas it is legal. There are asshole employers who fire employees over having a political bumper sticker endorsing the wrong candidate. Any place with at-will employment either the employee or employer can end the relationship at will and for any reason unless there is a contract or is intentional discrimination against a protected class which is usually very hard to prove.
 
2020-10-17 11:42:12 AM  

TDWCom29: Chevello: [external-content.duckduckgo.com image 850x477]

Florida's a "right-to-work" state, so good luck with that


Aren't they all any more?
 
2020-10-17 11:43:54 AM  

Burn_The_Plows: Dead for Tax Reasons: tell everyone at work you are voting for biden, then sue for discrimination when you get fired

You will not win that lawsuit in any "right-to-work" state unless your employer specifically states that you were fired for that reason.

But then again, they're Trumpers, so maybe they won't listen to their attorneys and put that in writing.


Know how I know you don't know what "right to work" means?
 
2020-10-17 11:45:15 AM  

LesserEvil: This is EXACTLY why you vote democrat and keep voting democrat.

Assholes like this "job creator" need to lose everything.


I don't always agree with you, but that's spot on.
 
2020-10-17 11:46:47 AM  

misanthropicsob: Even the centrists' progressive icon Bernie


This is why no one takes you seriously.
 
2020-10-17 11:47:01 AM  

macadamnut: qorkfiend: macadamnut: vudukungfu: Don't fark with the democracy we laid down lives for.
This company's president should be in prison
Now

And in the 1700s he would have been horsewhipped in public.

In the 1700s most of his employees would have been slaves. Only white males could vote, and since there was no secret ballot, their employers would know who they voted for.

What country are you from?

Maybe further down the line, but probably not for a fabrication shop, even in the 1700s.

I stand by my point that "the democracy we laid down lives for" is a meaningless phrase.


Fair enough
 
2020-10-17 11:47:59 AM  

Mrtraveler01: misanthropicsob: Even the centrists' progressive icon Bernie

This is why no one takes you seriously.


Would you prefer "centrists' progressive punching bag"?
 
2020-10-17 11:49:07 AM  

neongoats: Yeah NASA won't need parts anymore if Joe is elected? In addition to having no morals this piece of shiat is also profoundly farking stupid.


This doesn't show he's stupid, just that he thinks the people working for him are

Companies blaming the gov't for their own incompetence made WV the reddest state in the country, so you can see why they want to keep trying it
 
2020-10-17 11:49:59 AM  

misanthropicsob: Mrtraveler01: misanthropicsob: Even the centrists' progressive icon Bernie

This is why no one takes you seriously.

Would you prefer "centrists' progressive punching bag"?


Nah, we already call you that
 
2020-10-17 11:53:10 AM  

Chevello: TDWCom29: Chevello: [external-content.duckduckgo.com image 850x477]

Florida's a "right-to-work" state, so good luck with that

Aren't they all any more?


Nope, unless you're thinking "right-to-work" and "at-will employment" are the same things. At-will is pretty much in every state. "Right-to-work" is in (I think) roughly a third-to-half of the country and you can tell which states are right-to-work because their workers make less
 
2020-10-17 11:54:50 AM  

TommyDeuce: We seem to get this story every election - don't we?

Hey rich assholes - this is not a clever way to make your employees vote the way you want to!!!

/I'll reconsider if all they make are MAGA hats
//then I'll laugh even harder
///Give them a job making slashies


No, silly. MAGA hats are made in China. Biden's campaign swag is American made.
 
2020-10-17 11:55:38 AM  
The premise behind "Right-to-work" is that workers will somehow take advantage of the system to unfairly collect money under byzantine conditions and constraints, and by removing the checks and balances to ensure a fair working place, you somehow make it easier for people who want to work, but don't want to enjoy the protection of unions or regulations.

The problem is that:
1. The business owners exploit right-to-work in exactly the ways unions are meant to protect workers
2. It ignores that such exploitation by workers doesn't really occur in practice, because it is impractical and sustained application of such exploitation isn't sustainable anyway.
3. Did I mention the very evil unions and regulations are meant to protect workers from is perpetrated by the business owners?

I get that unions can be a problem. The way to get a handle on that is to regulate them in the same manner. This isn't rocket science. The government CAN keep the mob out of unions, and mostly has, and the "right-to-work" laws have had nothing to do with that success.
 
2020-10-17 11:58:26 AM  
I'm sure the boss will still get his paycheck.
 
2020-10-17 12:05:46 PM  
SO that means unemployment, along with possible wrongful termination lawsuit, and a great story to tell your new employer on why you should never do business with the owner. Sounds like an amazing plan!
 
2020-10-17 12:05:52 PM  

TDWCom29: Chevello: TDWCom29: Chevello: [external-content.duckduckgo.com image 850x477]

Florida's a "right-to-work" state, so good luck with that

Aren't they all any more?

Nope, unless you're thinking "right-to-work" and "at-will employment" are the same things. At-will is pretty much in every state. "Right-to-work" is in (I think) roughly a third-to-half of the country and you can tell which states are right-to-work because their workers make less


I'll have to look up the difference because I was probably thinking they were the same.
 
2020-10-17 12:07:31 PM  

coffeetime: Seems like someone might need to draft a response.


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I used a version of this as a response to a friend's Facebook post.
"Hey, Friend, just thought I'd let you know that some asshole has hacked your Facebook account and is using it to post some borderline racist and horrible stuff. Just thought you should know."
 
2020-10-17 12:07:47 PM  
Reminds me of a sports bar in my hometown that shut down when Obama got elected. Owner put a massive sign in the front window biatching that Obama had ruined his business and forced him to close. And warned of the horrible apocalypse to come if something wasn't "done about him".

Obama hadn't even been sworn in yet. This was around December after the election. I guess he already had his time machine at that point.
 
2020-10-17 12:09:00 PM  
This is a stunning admission on the employer's part.

If their business cannot survive due to a few percentage points loss in orders or a few points increase in taxes, then it also follows:

They cannot survive a few points increase in labor costs, so the workers there cannot and should not expect raises or any additional benefits.

They cannot survive an increase in materials costs.

They cannot survive an increase in transportation costs to deliver needed materials or finished products.

All of these costs WILL go up, regardless of which party is in power.

Workers and investors should flee this sinking ship.  The captain has all but issued the order.

Perhaps they could switch to manufacturing bootstraps, and reserve the first production run for themselves?
 
2020-10-17 12:11:03 PM  

schecter: ahh, yes.....memories.......

Papa John's CEO Says 'Obamacare' Will Up Pizza Price
ABC News
August 8, 2012 <<<====
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/p​apa-johns-john-schnatter-obamacare-piz​za-prices/story?id=16962891


A farking quarter!!!
 
2020-10-17 12:22:43 PM  
Red State residency: not even once.
 
2020-10-17 12:31:25 PM  
This guy just wants an excuse to offload his longer-tenured employees and their higher salaries, and then quietly hire new employees for dirt cheap. Doing it this way will allow him to feel better about himself for doing it. After all, it's not his fault the American people fired his orange messiah.
 
2020-10-17 12:33:23 PM  

TDWCom29: misanthropicsob: Mrtraveler01: misanthropicsob: Even the centrists' progressive icon Bernie

This is why no one takes you seriously.

Would you prefer "centrists' progressive punching bag"?

Nah, we already call you that


Notice how the centrists don't dispute the point that they're electing a military humping warmonger and instead resort to personal insults.
 
2020-10-17 12:35:09 PM  
Had a boss in 2008 that didn't shill for the GOP, but sent an email about a week before Election Day (we're in a state that does all elections by mail) to "think carefully about who you vote for" and the current sh*t state of the economy and repercussions of a "thoughtless" ballot.  Heavily shaded toward Republicans but didn't overtly say so.  It got a few disgusted laughs and some "f*ck you"s under a few peoples' breaths.
 
2020-10-17 12:35:31 PM  

misanthropicsob: TDWCom29: misanthropicsob: Mrtraveler01: misanthropicsob: Even the centrists' progressive icon Bernie

This is why no one takes you seriously.

Would you prefer "centrists' progressive punching bag"?

Nah, we already call you that

Notice how the centrists don't dispute the point that they're electing a military humping warmonger and instead resort to personal insults.


No, I just know your shtick and it's more fun to insult you than try to explain how the world works to a brick wall
 
2020-10-17 12:42:32 PM  
Not that it matters to any of us, but it's probably this company (educated guess):

https://www.dmctools.com/

A tool company based out of Orlando.
 
2020-10-17 12:44:16 PM  
I guess that was in the article. Obviously dnrtfa.
 
2020-10-17 12:46:15 PM  
Trump win: "Hopefully" continue business
Biden win: "Could" go out of business

This guy is nowhere and everywhere.
 
2020-10-17 12:54:39 PM  
"If you vote for Trump, I'll give you $100."  That's obviously very illegal.
"If Biden wins, you might get laid off."  Less obvious, but it's still interfering with a voter's vote, intimidation.  And it's illegal, too.

Also, it would be interesting to see what the company's revenues were over the last 3 decades.  I suspect they went up during Clinton and Obama's tenure, and down during Trump and both Bushes.  Growing economies are good for manufactures, you know.
 
2020-10-17 12:55:52 PM  
Honest President tells his workers what may happen in a Biden presidency.

Libs, who loath honesty in any form, pillory honest President.

Media, in the pocket of the DNC, runs headline.

Just like politics.
 
2020-10-17 1:00:19 PM  
This is the kind of place that makes sure no employee works more hours to be considered full time.
 
2020-10-17 1:01:38 PM  
FTFA: "George Daniels, president of Daniels Manufacturing Corporation"

Gee, I wonder how George got his job?  I'm betting it's similar to this guy:
CEO Worked Way Up From Son Of CEO
Youtube _67JbvXLrmw
 
2020-10-17 1:12:34 PM  

zgrizz: Honest President tells his workers what may happen in a Biden presidency1.

Libs, who loath honesty in any form, pillory honest President2.

Media, in the pocket of the DNC, runs headline3.

Just like politics.


1Did Honest President tell his workers that a stable economy under a sane Biden presidency might increase business?  That might happen as well.  Why did he only threaten their jobs with doom and gloom, when he could have boosted morale with a more positive scenario, one more likely to happen in the real world than what's playing out in his swampy noggin?  I don't think you should call him Honest President when he only tells half the truth, the half he's politically invested in.

2If libs loathed honesty, wouldn't they be supporting the candidate who's lied publicly, often about the most important national policies, over 25,000 times since being sworn in?

3Of course the media reported it.  It's a company president threatening the incomes of his workers if his political candidate isn't elected.  It's unethical and criminal.  Do you really think that the big 6 media companies are in the pocket of the DNC?  Do you think the DNC has that kind of power or money?   C'mon, just think about these idiotic talking points for a minute before you regurgitate them.
 
2020-10-17 1:18:01 PM  
Oh this shiat again. Eat shiat bob, or you equivalent thereof.
 
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