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2020-10-16 4:07:16 PM  
No, this is ludicrous mode. Read your owners manual.
 
2020-10-16 4:23:51 PM  
That fooking autohighlight list is pure crap and whatever javascript jockey at WAPO put it together needs to be taken to Jeff Bezo's personal woodshed ASAP.
 
2020-10-16 4:26:09 PM  
That read like a 4 year export of the Politics tab
 
2020-10-16 4:35:47 PM  
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2020-10-16 4:38:53 PM  
Don't worry guys, new polls are out showing Joe ahead in these battleground states.
One problem, in 2016 polls were off by up to 6 points, so Trump might win all the states highlighted in yellow.
If Biden loses PA it's 4 more years of Trump. Happy Friday?
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Coming into Election Day that year, FiveThirtyEight's average of polls in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin had Hillary Clinton leading by 3.1, 3.1 and 5 percentage points, respectively. But Donald Trump won those states by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 points - meaning that the polls were off by between 3 and 6 points

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politi​c​s/2020/10/07/even-if-state-polls-are-u​nderestimating-trump-much-they-did-201​6-biden-is-position-win/
 
2020-10-16 4:40:03 PM  
No thanks, I don't want to relive the last 4 years in a bad web format.
 
2020-10-16 4:47:42 PM  

Walker: Don't worry guys, new polls are out showing Joe ahead in these battleground states.
One problem, in 2016 polls were off by up to 6 points, so Trump might win all the states highlighted in yellow.
If Biden loses PA it's 4 more years of Trump. Happy Friday?
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Coming into Election Day that year, FiveThirtyEight's average of polls in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin had Hillary Clinton leading by 3.1, 3.1 and 5 percentage points, respectively. But Donald Trump won those states by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 points - meaning that the polls were off by between 3 and 6 points

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politic​s/2020/10/07/even-if-state-polls-are-u​nderestimating-trump-much-they-did-201​6-biden-is-position-win/


Don't forget Hillary's likability numbers were on par with Dump, making it much easier for on the fence voters to vote Dump after the last Comey memo dropped.

Joe's got a commanding lead across all polling categories, and people are much less likely to be swayed.

But, ignoring that, just Farking vote.

We did today, and are celebrating with a patio drink round.
 
2020-10-16 5:03:19 PM  

markie_farkie: Walker: Don't worry guys, new polls are out showing Joe ahead in these battleground states.
One problem, in 2016 polls were off by up to 6 points, so Trump might win all the states highlighted in yellow.
If Biden loses PA it's 4 more years of Trump. Happy Friday?
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Coming into Election Day that year, FiveThirtyEight's average of polls in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin had Hillary Clinton leading by 3.1, 3.1 and 5 percentage points, respectively. But Donald Trump won those states by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 points - meaning that the polls were off by between 3 and 6 points

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politic​s/2020/10/07/even-if-state-polls-are-u​nderestimating-trump-much-they-did-201​6-biden-is-position-win/

Don't forget Hillary's likability numbers were on par with Dump, making it much easier for on the fence voters to vote Dump after the last Comey memo dropped.

Joe's got a commanding lead across all polling categories, and people are much less likely to be swayed.

But, ignoring that, just Farking vote.

We did today, and are celebrating with a patio drink round.


Also important to note, that lead has been steady since day one where Clinton's was on a pogo stick.

Having said that, I've already voted and didn't take the polls into consideration. All I'm using them for is to sleep a little better.
 
2020-10-16 6:05:53 PM  

markie_farkie: Walker: Don't worry guys, new polls are out showing Joe ahead in these battleground states.
One problem, in 2016 polls were off by up to 6 points, so Trump might win all the states highlighted in yellow.
If Biden loses PA it's 4 more years of Trump. Happy Friday?
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Coming into Election Day that year, FiveThirtyEight's average of polls in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin had Hillary Clinton leading by 3.1, 3.1 and 5 percentage points, respectively. But Donald Trump won those states by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 points - meaning that the polls were off by between 3 and 6 points

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politic​s/2020/10/07/even-if-state-polls-are-u​nderestimating-trump-much-they-did-201​6-biden-is-position-win/

Don't forget Hillary's likability numbers were on par with Dump, making it much easier for on the fence voters to vote Dump after the last Comey memo dropped.

Joe's got a commanding lead across all polling categories, and people are much less likely to be swayed.

But, ignoring that, just Farking vote.

We did today, and are celebrating with a patio drink round.


3 in my household cast our ballots yesterday, all Biden + Dem candidates.
 
2020-10-16 6:20:03 PM  
I got all the way to week 8, then had to stop.
 
2020-10-16 6:20:20 PM  
Yeah, let's return to normal! You know, the system that allowed this to happen.
 
2020-10-16 6:21:44 PM  
On Trump it is.
 
2020-10-16 6:25:17 PM  
Living it once was bad enough.
 
2020-10-16 6:26:29 PM  
Even if Trump falls into a blender on Nov. 2, vote anyway.
 
2020-10-16 6:26:48 PM  
Oh, how great it will be when the constant refrain shifts from "this is not normal" to "now this is how it is supposed to be".
 
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2020-10-16 6:28:16 PM  
Interesting to note that Trump's initial contact with Taiwan falls into this list.

Please explain, is this just a "not normal" thing, or is this a bad thing, Ms. Washington Post?
 
2020-10-16 6:28:18 PM  
Going back to 2015 isn't enough.
We need to take the money out of politics and get rid of the oligarchs like Bloomberg.
Then we can rewind to back before the "moderates" and neoconservatives sold us out to the highest bidders.
Treating the symptom but not the disease will lead to worse than Trump just like it lead to worse than Bush.
 
2020-10-16 6:29:23 PM  
"Hail Trump. Hail our people. Hail victory"

~Richard Spenser

None of this should be normalized and too much of it already has been.

Trump has shattered the institutions designed to keep America safe and prosperous.

He has gutted entire departments, destroyed morale, installed literally the worst people possible to head agencies, fired anyone who disagreed with him, shed literally centuries of institutional memory by bullying and forcing people into early retirement and to top it all off he put Bill f**king Barr in as AG who has disgraced and abused his office nearly as bad as Trump. Hundreds of unqualified religious extremists on the bench w lifetime appointments, a conservative supermajority on SCOTUS...

That's all on top of a raging pandemic, a world that now views the US with disgust and scorn, an economy in tatters and a nation awash in propaganda fueled WS movements.

So yeah, Joe and Kamala have their work cut out for them.
 
2020-10-16 6:29:57 PM  

Urmuf Hamer: No, this is ludicrous mode. Read your owners manual.


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2020-10-16 6:31:09 PM  
You're right, this is not normal. It's some kind of farked up, shiatty web page on WaPo's site.

Thanks for that garbage, subby.
 
2020-10-16 6:31:39 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: On Trump it is.


When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
 
2020-10-16 6:32:03 PM  

Walker: Don't worry guys, new polls are out showing Joe ahead in these battleground states.
One problem, in 2016 polls were off by up to 6 points, so Trump might win all the states highlighted in yellow.
If Biden loses PA it's 4 more years of Trump. Happy Friday?
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Coming into Election Day that year, FiveThirtyEight's average of polls in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin had Hillary Clinton leading by 3.1, 3.1 and 5 percentage points, respectively. But Donald Trump won those states by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 points - meaning that the polls were off by between 3 and 6 points

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politic​s/2020/10/07/even-if-state-polls-are-u​nderestimating-trump-much-they-did-201​6-biden-is-position-win/


I remember a pollster on election night, saying how hard his job had been. A lot of trump supporters just said "Trump!" and hung up, and didn't complete the poll. So they weren't counted in the poll totals. I haven't heard anything about polls being conducted differently since then.

/I'm trying to stay hopeful, but I'm not celebrating yet.
 
2020-10-16 6:32:19 PM  
I am so glad she did this. I kept trying. I got out my journal every day and tried to document it. But then as everything started to get scarier, I just... couldn't keep it up. It was like this grim task hanging over me every day.

I keep going back to it, maybe once a month or so, and try to sum stuff up for the few weeks since I wrote before. I'll keep it up for a couple days and then just stop again. It's like there's a mental block.

But I've really wanted to have it all down, so I was hoping someone else was doing it and I'd get to read it sometime.
 
2020-10-16 6:34:50 PM  

Fishmongers' Daughters: I am so glad she did this. I kept trying. I got out my journal every day and tried to document it. But then as everything started to get scarier, I just... couldn't keep it up. It was like this grim task hanging over me every day.

I keep going back to it, maybe once a month or so, and try to sum stuff up for the few weeks since I wrote before. I'll keep it up for a couple days and then just stop again. It's like there's a mental block.

But I've really wanted to have it all down, so I was hoping someone else was doing it and I'd get to read it sometime.


I know.It's the first draft of history. A good clear document.
 
2020-10-16 6:38:25 PM  
Guess what.

Now it is. That's why the drooling masses elected this monkey hemorrhoid with a wig: to destroy every measure and appearance of ethics, decorum, and unity. It's all about putting white supremacy and cultural exclusionism front and center with the majority not willing to take off the gloves to retaliate.

I pray to any dirty who light really exist that we can depose him. Because if we don't? Get ready for this country to become the Fourth Reich.

I worry that if Trump wins and decides he's untouchable the resulting horror show will scare countries into closing their borders to us Americans who seek political refuge.

/ Seriously thinking about a move overseas for next year regardless of who wins
 
2020-10-16 6:39:12 PM  
I thought I was getting news but instead it was someone selling a book.
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2020-10-16 6:40:51 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Even if Trump falls into a blender on Nov. 2, vote anyway.


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2020-10-16 6:41:09 PM  
Decades of damage.
 
2020-10-16 6:43:16 PM  

Walker: Don't worry guys, new polls are out showing Joe ahead in these battleground states.
One problem, in 2016 polls were off by up to 6 points, so Trump might win all the states highlighted in yellow.
If Biden loses PA it's 4 more years of Trump. Happy Friday?
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Coming into Election Day that year, FiveThirtyEight's average of polls in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin had Hillary Clinton leading by 3.1, 3.1 and 5 percentage points, respectively. But Donald Trump won those states by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 points - meaning that the polls were off by between 3 and 6 points

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politic​s/2020/10/07/even-if-state-polls-are-u​nderestimating-trump-much-they-did-201​6-biden-is-position-win/


Here's the final RCP results from Pennsylvania just before the election. There's lots of things that stand out.  First, Trafalgar pretty much nailed it. Next, it appears that there were a lot of Trump voters who the polls didn't capture. Also, Clinton was under-represented, as well, it's that Trump was under-represented to a greater degree.
Looking at the results from most of the states, the trend seems to continue. In close states where Hillary had 50%+, she won. In states where there was enough undecideds or third-party voters for Trump to edge out a victory, he did.
There is certainly evidence to support the "6 points off" hypothesis for some of the polls, but not all of them.
It really is an interesting delve into the figures around the vote. I hope you'll find it as interesting as I did.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo​l​ls/2016/president/2016_elections_elect​oral_college_map.html

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2020-10-16 6:43:35 PM  
I was just wondering yesterday whether anyone was keeping track of the massive list of shiat that needs to be undone, that the entire criminal cabal needs to be investigated and prosecuted for.  Thankful that someone is.

Side note: if Biden wins, he should fire every single one of 45's political appointees and anyone they hired. Without exception.
 
2020-10-16 6:44:13 PM  

Fishmongers' Daughters: I am so glad she did this. I kept trying. I got out my journal every day and tried to document it. But then as everything started to get scarier, I just... couldn't keep it up. It was like this grim task hanging over me every day.

I keep going back to it, maybe once a month or so, and try to sum stuff up for the few weeks since I wrote before. I'll keep it up for a couple days and then just stop again. It's like there's a mental block.

But I've really wanted to have it all down, so I was hoping someone else was doing it and I'd get to read it sometime.


I'm doing it. Kind of. Not online. Maybe future generations will read it and say, "Holy shiat, this lady sure did use a lot of F-bombs and REALLY hated some asshole named Trump."
 
2020-10-16 6:46:29 PM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: markie_farkie: Walker: Don't worry guys, new polls are out showing Joe ahead in these battleground states.
One problem, in 2016 polls were off by up to 6 points, so Trump might win all the states highlighted in yellow.
If Biden loses PA it's 4 more years of Trump. Happy Friday?
[Fark user image image 430x487]


Coming into Election Day that year, FiveThirtyEight's average of polls in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin had Hillary Clinton leading by 3.1, 3.1 and 5 percentage points, respectively. But Donald Trump won those states by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 points - meaning that the polls were off by between 3 and 6 points

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politic​s/2020/10/07/even-if-state-polls-are-u​nderestimating-trump-much-they-did-201​6-biden-is-position-win/

Don't forget Hillary's likability numbers were on par with Dump, making it much easier for on the fence voters to vote Dump after the last Comey memo dropped.

Joe's got a commanding lead across all polling categories, and people are much less likely to be swayed.

But, ignoring that, just Farking vote.

We did today, and are celebrating with a patio drink round.

Also important to note, that lead has been steady since day one where Clinton's was on a pogo stick.


Additionally also, nobody in 2016 though a Trump win was even possible, so nobody was taking it seriously.

We don't have that problem now.
 
2020-10-16 6:46:39 PM  
At what point do his legal obligations stop being up to him?
 
2020-10-16 6:46:51 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Even if Trump falls into a blender on Nov. 2, vote anyway.


This sounds like a great option. Where do I donate to buy a blender big enough?
 
2020-10-16 6:47:48 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Yeah, let's return to normal! You know, the system that allowed this to happen.


You got any better ideas at this point?
 
2020-10-16 6:48:16 PM  

Opiate of the Lasses: I was just wondering yesterday whether anyone was keeping track of the massive list of shiat that needs to be undone, that the entire criminal cabal needs to be investigated and prosecuted for.  Thankful that someone is.

Side note: if Biden wins, he should fire every single one of 45's political appointees and anyone they hired. Without exception.


What about the last four years of civil servant hires throughout the federal government? That would catch a lot of us who've been working to try to keep the entire machinery of government from flying off the rails every time he tweets.
Seriously, it's exhausting.
 
2020-10-16 6:49:21 PM  
The Cliff Notes summary: "My God, it's full of Trump!"

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2020-10-16 6:53:06 PM  
Biden is one of the best qualified people to repair the wide spread damage and get everything up and running again.

I'm hoping a lot of people are willing to come back to the government, and I'm hoping he gets leadership with bold new ideas as well as experienced hands who know how to work within the system.
 
2020-10-16 6:53:25 PM  
Otherwise normal people hate Hillary with the heat of a thousand suns. Most people can't work themselves up over Biden like that. Even the ones who spread Sleepy Joe Kiddie Diddler memes.
 
2020-10-16 6:58:01 PM  

rolladuck: Opiate of the Lasses: I was just wondering yesterday whether anyone was keeping track of the massive list of shiat that needs to be undone, that the entire criminal cabal needs to be investigated and prosecuted for.  Thankful that someone is.

Side note: if Biden wins, he should fire every single one of 45's political appointees and anyone they hired. Without exception.

What about the last four years of civil servant hires throughout the federal government? That would catch a lot of us who've been working to try to keep the entire machinery of government from flying off the rails every time he tweets.
Seriously, it's exhausting.


That one is tougher. I do not gather run of the mill civil servants can affect policy, right? IDK, I guess if the middle and upper management are of the utmost integrity, then none of the rank and file can really muck up the works too much without being caught and fired.

FWIW, I'm also in favor of firing every single cop, from police chief on down to beat cops on meter maid duty, and starting over. Lots of unemployed people looking for jobs, right? You're a "good cop" and want your job back? No problem, just pass a background check, psychological evaluation, and have a completely clean disciplinary record. If you can do that, glad to have you. If not, jog on.
 
2020-10-16 7:02:03 PM  

etoof: I got all the way to week 8, then had to stop.


I don't think I even made it that far, was like, this is for these types of people:
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2020-10-16 7:02:53 PM  
Before we go forward we need a huge multi-defendant trial.You know, like the second-largest city of the German federal state of Bavaria.
 
2020-10-16 7:03:43 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Yeah, let's return to normal! You know, the system that allowed this to happen.


sinner4ever: Going back to 2015 isn't enough.
We need to take the money out of politics and get rid of the oligarchs like Bloomberg.
Then we can rewind to back before the "moderates" and neoconservatives sold us out to the highest bidders.
Treating the symptom but not the disease will lead to worse than Trump just like it lead to worse than Bush.


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2020-10-16 7:03:52 PM  

Cortez the Killer: Urmuf Hamer: No, this is ludicrous mode. Read your owners manual.

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2020-10-16 7:06:16 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Yeah, let's return to normal! You know, the system that allowed this to happen.


Yes, because that'll happen *immediately*.

Look, kid, you need to be in it for the long haul. Vote and start holding their toes to the fire IMMEDIATELY after the election.

Tired? Join the farkin' club that's been at it since November 2016.
 
2020-10-16 7:07:15 PM  

Kaeru: Gyrfalcon: Even if Trump falls into a blender on Nov. 2, vote anyway.

This sounds like a great option. Where do I donate to buy a blender big enough?


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2020-10-16 7:08:28 PM  
And when we do reconstruction part 2, Let's do it right this time. Burn the south to the ground.
 
2020-10-16 7:10:26 PM  
I would just really like this election to be over so I can get some sleep one way or another.
 
2020-10-16 7:12:40 PM  

Urmuf Hamer: No, this is ludicrous mode. Read your owners manual.


The owners manual is 230 years old. It could use a touch up.  The ludicrous mode isn't even mentioned. AND alot of other stuff is pretty buggy and implemented in a have (not a typo) ass way.  Did I miss an update?
 
2020-10-16 7:15:09 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Yeah, let's return to normal! You know, the system that allowed this to happen.


What is your plan for stopping it from happening again? You have ideas or suggestions or just want to complain all the time?
 
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