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(ESPN)   Roberts dismissed the thought of Kershaw coming up short as a big-game pitcher, saying that he gave his team a chance and ignored the last decade of history   (espn.com) divider line
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2020-10-16 10:50:13 AM  
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Postseason Kershaw gonna Postseason Kershaw.

My only regret is that it didn't happen last week instead.
 
2020-10-16 11:04:45 AM  
Well yeah, but he'll be better in the WS.

/s
 
2020-10-16 1:01:43 PM  
Let's just look at 2020.

In the Wild Card series, he threw eight shutout innings with three hits and 13 strikeouts.  Excellent outing.
In the NLDS, he threw six innings and gave up three runs and got the win.  About average for a MLB pitcher.
In the NLCS, he threw five innings of shutout baseball...and then got knocked around in the sixth (and then the bullpen couldn't clean up his mess).

Except for the last fraction of an inning, he's had an above average postseason.  It's also not his fault the Dodgers couldn't score more than two runs in his game, nor that the bullpen fell apart worse than he did.
 
2020-10-16 1:03:32 PM  
Actually, my bad, he did give up one run in the first five innings in the NLCS, not a shutout.  Still good until the sixth.
 
2020-10-16 1:14:14 PM  

Geotpf: Let's just look at 2020.

In the Wild Card series, he threw eight shutout innings with three hits and 13 strikeouts.  Excellent outing.
In the NLDS, he threw six innings and gave up three runs and got the win.  About average for a MLB pitcher.
In the NLCS, he threw five innings of shutout baseball...and then got knocked around in the sixth (and then the bullpen couldn't clean up his mess).

Except for the last fraction of an inning, he's had an above average postseason.  It's also not his fault the Dodgers couldn't score more than two runs in his game, nor that the bullpen fell apart worse than he did.


That's his history.

As I said in the other thread, as a starter...

147 innings that aren't his last partial/full inning: 46 runs
28 final innings in his starts? 40 runs. And that doesn't include the runs that the bullpen often has tacked on before closing the inning out.
 
2020-10-16 1:51:24 PM  
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2020-10-16 2:33:15 PM  

IAmRight: Geotpf: Let's just look at 2020.

In the Wild Card series, he threw eight shutout innings with three hits and 13 strikeouts.  Excellent outing.
In the NLDS, he threw six innings and gave up three runs and got the win.  About average for a MLB pitcher.
In the NLCS, he threw five innings of shutout baseball...and then got knocked around in the sixth (and then the bullpen couldn't clean up his mess).

Except for the last fraction of an inning, he's had an above average postseason.  It's also not his fault the Dodgers couldn't score more than two runs in his game, nor that the bullpen fell apart worse than he did.

That's his history.

As I said in the other thread, as a starter...

147 innings that aren't his last partial/full inning: 46 runs
28 final innings in his starts? 40 runs. And that doesn't include the runs that the bullpen often has tacked on before closing the inning out.


I'm pretty sure almost every starter has similar breakdowns.  It's well known that during the second time through in a lineup almost every pitcher's batting average against goes up, sometimes dramatically.
 
2020-10-16 3:12:02 PM  

Geotpf: IAmRight: Geotpf: Let's just look at 2020.

In the Wild Card series, he threw eight shutout innings with three hits and 13 strikeouts.  Excellent outing.
In the NLDS, he threw six innings and gave up three runs and got the win.  About average for a MLB pitcher.
In the NLCS, he threw five innings of shutout baseball...and then got knocked around in the sixth (and then the bullpen couldn't clean up his mess).

Except for the last fraction of an inning, he's had an above average postseason.  It's also not his fault the Dodgers couldn't score more than two runs in his game, nor that the bullpen fell apart worse than he did.

That's his history.

As I said in the other thread, as a starter...

147 innings that aren't his last partial/full inning: 46 runs
28 final innings in his starts? 40 runs. And that doesn't include the runs that the bullpen often has tacked on before closing the inning out.

I'm pretty sure almost every starter has similar breakdowns.  It's well known that during the second time through in a lineup almost every pitcher's batting average against goes up, sometimes dramatically.


Yeah, as I said, it may be similar...it's just kind of absurd how explosive a lot of those final innings are.

Like the time he had a 6-2 lead and his manager kept him in in the 7th until he'd given up 7 runs on 110+ pitches. TAKE HIM OUT WHILE YOU HAVE A LEAD WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU
 
2020-10-16 3:58:07 PM  
By all accounts Kershaw is a great guy. I heard he doesn't even cuss. I do feel bad for him but he plays for the Dodgers. "Kershaw playoff meltdown day" is almost as fun as Yankee elimination day
 
2020-10-16 4:22:50 PM  

devilskware: By all accounts Kershaw is a great guy. I heard he doesn't even cuss. I do feel bad for him but he plays for the Dodgers. "Kershaw playoff meltdown day" is almost as fun as Yankee elimination day


Clayton Kershaw Getting Pissed Off Compilation
Youtube gasSNOoCuuA


Pretty sure they would rather have him cuss over throw a ball into the dugout because of his own stupidity
 
2020-10-16 10:22:33 PM  
The blame has to be on the pitching coaches and managers.   If you know full well that he can melt down at any time after the 4th or 5th, then you pull him as soon as he starts getting in trouble.   I mean, the fans certainly see it coming.

This  gives me flashbacks to the Tribe when they signed John Rocker.   He was absolutely lights-out as a closer, unless a guy got on base, then he completely lost it in a big hurry.   It was all or nothing, and it didn't take fans long to see this, but the manager at the time never got it.   Rocker was unhittable when he came in.  He was also a spazz and a major head case, as anyone in Atlanta could tell you.   It was excruciating watching him melt down with two outs in the 9th after walking a batter.    I'm sure Dodgers fans can tell you the exact time that they need to pull Kershaw in a post-season outing.   Maybe the management should figure that out.
 
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