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(Big Think)   Nobel Prize winner claims the universe keeps dying and being reborn, says you really need to hit this bong, this is some seriously good kush   (bigthink.com) divider line
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2020-10-10 8:25:24 AM  
According to the scientist, there have been multiple Big Bangs, with more coming.

Just ask subby's mom.
 
2020-10-10 8:43:21 AM  
Can I buy some pot from you?


/seriously, can I?
 
2020-10-10 8:49:57 AM  
That's the way I interpret it
 
2020-10-10 8:55:11 AM  
Man that's crazy, you ever try DMT?
 
2020-10-10 8:58:15 AM  
Going to take a while. Would you like a magazine while you wait?
 
2020-10-10 9:02:40 AM  
Some of us know that we are all pieces of the universe that it uses to observe itself subjectively. We've known for a long time.

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2020-10-10 9:03:28 AM  
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maybe
 
2020-10-10 9:05:05 AM  
Is this the professor?

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2020-10-10 9:43:48 AM  
Where does entropy fit in?
Or is it like a bouncey ball, losing a chunck of energy each bounce?
 
2020-10-10 10:55:43 AM  
It is possible for someone to do Nobel-worthy research and still occasionally spout nonsense. Linus Pauling, for example.
 
2020-10-10 1:02:40 PM  
i think this fact is obvious and find it really strange that as of yet it is not.
 
2020-10-10 1:05:26 PM  

revrendjim: It is possible for someone to do Nobel-worthy research and still occasionally spout nonsense. Linus Pauling, for example.


Of course Pauling's nonsense was thinking being arguably the best chemist of the 20th Century qualified him to be an authority in medicine without bothering to learn medicine.
 
2020-10-10 1:09:25 PM  

davynelson: i think this fact is obvious and find it really strange that as of yet it is not.


But what happens to the turtles?
 
2020-10-10 1:10:53 PM  
there is only entropy within the finite universe.

also, infinite universes does not mean "one after another" the way your human mind might envision them.
because time is an illusion, they are infinitely concurrent, as opposed to infinitely consecutive
 
2020-10-10 1:13:47 PM  

Herr Flick's Revenge: davynelson: i think this fact is obvious and find it really strange that as of yet it is not.

But what happens to the turtles?


April mating season?
 
2020-10-10 1:30:38 PM  

MurphyMurphy: Where does entropy fit in?
Or is it like a bouncey ball, losing a chunck of energy each bounce?


His evidence for it is apparently questionable, but I do find the idea interesting. It seems to me like the kind of thing that would be very hard to find proof of, but basically, in my understanding...

Penrose's CCC is an inflationary cycle, so there would be a new starting point for entropy. The inflationary "dark energy" effect we observe today in our universe (and have observed throughout the universe's history) that has space expanding ever faster continues until it reaches a point where it's expanding so fast it kind of kinks up and creates a new big bang. By that point all matter in the previous universe should have flown apart - first at the macro scale as we observe happening today, then eventually (after an incredibly long time) that expansion of space gets so pronounced that any massively disparate leftover matter has already been torn apart at a fundamental level.

All matter and energy are disturbances in the universe's fundamental fields. As the dark energy effect progressively intensifies it smooths those disturbances out eventually. And then, in the incredibly distant future, space is expanding with such ferocity that something catastrophic happens, it hits some critical threshold, and BOOM! Another big bang, and thus a new starting point for a new cycle of entropy.

At least that's what I think he's proposing. I could be wrong.
 
2020-10-10 1:33:33 PM  
As Negative energy accelerates the universe away from itself faster and faster, eventually the rate will exceed the speed of light. And that's how you get a new Universe.
 
2020-10-10 1:54:55 PM  

Destructor: As Negative energy accelerates the universe away from itself faster and faster, eventually the rate will exceed the speed of light. And that's how you get a new Universe.

No, you get a New Universe when the Marvel Comics EIC gets a really lame idea in the 1990s.
 
2020-10-10 1:55:06 PM  
Samsara.
 
2020-10-10 1:58:46 PM  

COMALite J: Destructor: As Negative energy accelerates the universe away from itself faster and faster, eventually the rate will exceed the speed of light. And that's how you get a new Universe.
No, you get a New Universe when the Marvel Comics EIC gets a really lame idea in the 1990s.


Both are good.
 
2020-10-10 2:00:31 PM  

COMALite J: Destructor: As Negative energy accelerates the universe away from itself faster and faster, eventually the rate will exceed the speed of light. And that's how you get a new Universe.
No, you get a New Universe when the Marvel Comics EIC gets a really lame idea in the 1990s.


I actually had a soft spot for DP7 and Justice.
 
2020-10-10 2:09:58 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: revrendjim: It is possible for someone to do Nobel-worthy research and still occasionally spout nonsense. Linus Pauling, for example.

Of course Pauling's nonsense was thinking being arguably the best chemist of the 20th Century qualified him to be an authority in medicine without bothering to learn medicine.


As bad as Pauling was, at least he didn't turn into a eugenicist like some of the others.

Shokley (1956 Nobel for Physics for the transistor) "Nature has color-coded groups of individuals so that statistically reliable predictions of their adaptability to intellectual rewarding and effective lives can easily be made and profitably used by the pragmatic man-in-the street" (Shockley 1972, 307).

Watson his made more claims that I can recount about the inferiority of blacks.

https://skepticalinquirer.org/2020/05​/​the-nobel-disease-when-intelligence-fa​ils-to-protect-against-irrationality/
 
2020-10-10 2:14:20 PM  

MurphyMurphy: Where does entropy fit in?
Or is it like a bouncey ball, losing a chunck of energy each bounce?


Entropy is a measure of the form of energy. By definition, in the entire system energy can neither be gained nor lost. It is merely diluted. As I understand the theory, at the end when the last black hole evaporates, matter degrades to individual leptons and quarks, which then degrade to strings of energy. Concepts such as space and time become undefined and therefore cease to exist.

The energy is still there, but it is without form. Since neither space nor time exist any longer, it cannot have form. So entropy (a measure of the organization of matter/energy) does not enter into it.

Without space and time, there is no distance, or size. "Small" and "large" are meaningless concepts. So the Universe is free to begin again in a new Big Bang.

Why yes, this verges on the mystical.
 
2020-10-10 2:18:14 PM  

mongbiohazard: COMALite J: Destructor: As Negative energy accelerates the universe away from itself faster and faster, eventually the rate will exceed the speed of light. And that's how you get a new Universe.
No, you get a New Universe when the Marvel Comics EIC gets a really lame idea in the 1990s.

I actually had a soft spot for DP7 and Justice.

Which Justice? Before or during Peter David's complete revamp of it?

I confess to actually liking some of the New Universe, including DP7 and Star Brand as well as the revamp of Justice though at first I thought it was a cop-out. But really, the original didn't at all fit with the premise of the series: "The World Outside Your Window" with the only difference being the White Event giving some people powers. This explains a mystic warrior from a fantasy dimension ― how, exactly?
 
2020-10-10 2:40:08 PM  
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Yeah, saw this one already.
 
2020-10-10 2:53:28 PM  
Your mom knows there have been multiple big bangs with more on the way.
 
2020-10-10 2:55:29 PM  
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2020-10-10 2:57:42 PM  

davynelson: there is only entropy within the finite universe.

also, infinite universes does not mean "one after another" the way your human mind might envision them.
because time is an illusion, they are infinitely concurrent, as opposed to infinitely consecutive


Does the phrase "above one's paygrade" mean anything to you?
 
2020-10-10 2:58:56 PM  
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2020-10-10 3:21:28 PM  
Black holes are certainly important in understanding the universe, but I have difficulty believing they're remnants of previous galaxies or that a new big bang will randomly appear in some part of the universe. If that were the case, galaxies would be moving in different vectors and you'd be able to pinpoint their origin.
 
2020-10-10 3:25:49 PM  
 Bad news , It's going to happen again .. I'm guessing in about 2 weeks .. Maybe on a Friday ..
 
2020-10-10 3:26:16 PM  
Confirmed: Big Bang Theory renewed.

/I haven't actually seen past the first season but I'm pretty sure it's now cancelled/ended.
 
2020-10-10 3:33:22 PM  

dyhchong: Confirmed: Big Bang Theory renewed.

/I haven't actually seen past the first season but I'm pretty sure it's now cancelled/ended.


It's on All Access with more tits and violence.
 
2020-10-10 3:39:18 PM  
I wonder if a subatomic energy basic life-form would consider matter a "black hole?"

/toketokepass
 
2020-10-10 3:43:41 PM  

nekom: Man that's crazy, you ever try DMT?


Universes don't work out. We've never seen one at full strength.
 
2020-10-10 3:46:40 PM  

fastfxr: Black holes are certainly important in understanding the universe, but I have difficulty believing they're remnants of previous galaxies or that a new big bang will randomly appear in some part of the universe. If that were the case, galaxies would be moving in different vectors and you'd be able to pinpoint their origin.


It wouldn't "randomly appear in some part of the universe;" it would appear long after this universe's time is up. After all matter in this universe has pulled so far apart that there is effectively nothing as far as you can see (or maybe even long enough into the future that all matter has decayed into sub-proton particles, which we're talking something like 10^33 years, when there literally is nothing forever), the rules that govern space-time itself look almost nothing like you may be accustomed to. Sprinkle in a dash of infinite time and you'll get an infinite string of universes throughout time and space. It's kind of a consequence of the intersection between quantum field theory and general relativity.
 
2020-10-10 3:51:34 PM  

OkieDookie: dyhchong: Confirmed: Big Bang Theory renewed.

/I haven't actually seen past the first season but I'm pretty sure it's now cancelled/ended.

It's on All Access with more tits and violence.


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2020-10-10 4:07:45 PM  

varnigus: fastfxr: Black holes are certainly important in understanding the universe, but I have difficulty believing they're remnants of previous galaxies or that a new big bang will randomly appear in some part of the universe. If that were the case, galaxies would be moving in different vectors and you'd be able to pinpoint their origin.

It wouldn't "randomly appear in some part of the universe;" it would appear long after this universe's time is up. After all matter in this universe has pulled so far apart that there is effectively nothing as far as you can see (or maybe even long enough into the future that all matter has decayed into sub-proton particles, which we're talking something like 10^33 years, when there literally is nothing forever), the rules that govern space-time itself look almost nothing like you may be accustomed to. Sprinkle in a dash of infinite time and you'll get an infinite string of universes throughout time and space. It's kind of a consequence of the intersection between quantum field theory and general relativity.


FTA: "colliding black holes in a universe that preceded ours."
That seems to imply previous universes currently exist within 'our' universe.
 
2020-10-10 4:11:22 PM  
Physics: if its too small or too large we can't really explain it but we try
 
2020-10-10 4:11:58 PM  
My personal idea (which could be and is indeed likely entirely wrong as I'm not a physicist, nor have I found a cosmologist or quantum physicist to ask about the details) is that one day spatial expansion gets so bad on a local scale (Big Rip scenario) that it starts trying to pull apart quark triplets and pairs.

Since the strong interaction doesn't obey the inverse square law, if you try to pull apart quarks you end up putting enough energy in the bonds between them that you generate quark-antiquark pairs, and you end up with what you started with plus a new quark pair.

The original quark triplet/pair gets pulled apart again, along with the new pair, making more and more pairs, which also get pulled apart, making more pairs, and so on.

So, you end up with a run away chain reaction being driven by the expansion of spacetime, dumping the energy of spacetime expansion itself into massive amounts quark-antiquark pair generation, which would be the Big Bang, with the short period of rapid inflation immediately following it being the time it took for the energy being dumped into quark-antiquark generation to effectively put the brakes on the Big Rip.
 
2020-10-10 4:39:18 PM  
What Happens After the Universe Ends?
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2020-10-10 5:40:34 PM  
One of my favorite moments on Groundhog Day is when Bill Murray starts to believe that he is a God, and that the real God may just be reliving a much larger loop.
 
2020-10-10 5:56:30 PM  
Me after reading this thread:

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2020-10-10 5:57:40 PM  
Penrose is basically a nutjob (a genius, but a nutjob) and has no evidence to back up his theory about multiple "big bangs".

Though, if we are talking about Fark headlines, he is absolutely correct. I think this story has been greenlit 3 times this week.
 
2020-10-10 6:13:02 PM  

COMALite J: mongbiohazard: COMALite J: Destructor: As Negative energy accelerates the universe away from itself faster and faster, eventually the rate will exceed the speed of light. And that's how you get a new Universe.
No, you get a New Universe when the Marvel Comics EIC gets a really lame idea in the 1990s.

I actually had a soft spot for DP7 and Justice.
Which Justice? Before or during Peter David's complete revamp of it?

I confess to actually liking some of the New Universe, including DP7 and Star Brand as well as the revamp of Justice though at first I thought it was a cop-out. But really, the original didn't at all fit with the premise of the series: "The World Outside Your Window" with the only difference being the White Event giving some people powers. This explains a mystic warrior from a fantasy dimension ― how, exactly?


Both before and after, I guess. The thing is, from the beginning I completely assumed that Justice's fantasy thing was some flavor of ruse or delusion. The rest of the New U was all grounded in the one event that kicked it all off - it was weird to me that Justice supposedly wasn't. And was this weird Dark Tower-ish, inter-dimensional fantasy thing. So I didn't think for a sec that shiat was actually what was up with Justice, and assumed at some point it would get explained. So when the big reveal/retcon came, I was just like, "Yup."
 
2020-10-10 6:30:53 PM  
"I'm going to tell you a story. It's going to sound ridiculous. The longer I talk, the more rational it's going to appear."

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2020-10-10 7:51:29 PM  

nekom: Man that's crazy, you ever try DMT?


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2020-10-10 7:52:50 PM  

davynelson: there is only entropy within the finite universe.

also, infinite universes does not mean "one after another" the way your human mind might envision them.
because time is an illusion, they are infinitely concurrent, as opposed to infinitely consecutive


that is patently untrue
 
2020-10-10 8:18:12 PM  
Every great scientist is a little bit crazy.  It's the openness to new ideas that makes them great scientists.  It also makes them prone to spewing nonsense from time to time.  That's why the scientific method is so important: using hard evidence to decide which new ideas are right and which are dumb and wrong.
 
2020-10-10 10:03:21 PM  
So the Vedics were right?

"When Vishnu (the universe) blinks Brahma (act of creation) dies. When Shiva (destruction and regeneration) blinks a Vishu (the universe) dies."
 
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