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(AlterNet)   Trump is the deranged, grotesque id of the ruling "elite"   (alternet.org) divider line
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1551 clicks; posted to Politics » on 08 Oct 2020 at 9:05 AM (15 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2020-10-08 8:39:36 AM  
So, id creates doom. Again.
 
2020-10-08 8:51:44 AM  
Monsters of the id
No longer staying hid
And terrors of the night
Are out in broad daylight..
Stan Ridgway "Monsters Of The Id" / a song by Mose Alllison
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2020-10-08 8:55:00 AM  

GRCooper: So, id creates doom. Again.


Am I gonna hafta shoot John Romero in the head again?
 
2020-10-08 9:06:18 AM  
He's deranged and grotesque like his fans and voters.
 
2020-10-08 9:10:27 AM  
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2020-10-08 9:14:24 AM  
Trump is saying the quiet part louder than usual on Fox right now:

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Also had a list of states he predicts he will win once he gets the courts to throw out their mail-in ballots as illegal.
 
2020-10-08 9:14:39 AM  
Also

' I just want to tell you all good luck. We're all counting on you. '

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2020-10-08 9:15:13 AM  

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[shakes Trumpian fist]

Take your "Smart" and "Funny", damnit.
 
2020-10-08 9:15:28 AM  

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Love that movie...
 
2020-10-08 9:16:17 AM  
They're no longer "elites", they're terrorists and they must be eradicated like Osama bin Laden.
 
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2020-10-08 9:16:27 AM  
I keep thinking that MAYBE basic decency will raise its head in the U.S. Senate.  I keep getting disappointed.  Everyone needs to remember that this situation is being perpetuated by them.  They could collaborate with the House and end this NOW.  However since their donors are getting the regulatory anarchy they want they won't do it.  We are currently living one of the worst cases we can see in terms of how the U.S. system was designed.
 
2020-10-08 9:17:19 AM  

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Came here for this, leaving satisfied.  This movie is the only one left I can watch on vhs, since its stuck in my vcr.
 
2020-10-08 9:19:45 AM  
There is a very good, time tested way to Take Care of "the elite"


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2020-10-08 9:28:37 AM  
He wishes... He's more of the ID of the local trailer park.
 
2020-10-08 9:30:00 AM  
Which is why the "economic anxiety" excuse is bullshiat.
 
2020-10-08 9:43:05 AM  
What the ruling elite might look like:
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2020-10-08 9:48:45 AM  
So, Trump is the worst of us - this is not revelatory. We all have an Id - we all have baserunners instincts. But not pandering to them, being the "better of our angels" is what 99% of us go thru everyday of life.

So, we're right back to where we are before the article was written: Trump is the worst, and it's why the GOP failed the USA as an institutional gatekeeper.
 
2020-10-08 9:51:22 AM  
Speaking of ID this sums it up nicely

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2020-10-08 9:59:32 AM  
The grand lie of the article isn't that Trump is the id of America's ruling elites. He is. The lie is that this isn't the same as the id of Americans in general.
 
2020-10-08 10:04:31 AM  
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2020-10-08 10:20:28 AM  
Came for the Forbidden Planet references.

Leaving satisfied.
 
2020-10-08 10:37:55 AM  

Millennium: The grand lie of the article isn't that Trump is the id of America's ruling elites. He is. The lie is that this isn't the same as the id of Americans in general.


Trump is interesting in that his largest bastion of personal support comes from people who most certainly aren't elites in any way except skin color (IE, white, lower middle class, blue collar, no college).  The actual Republican Wall Street elites would much prefer somebody like JEB!.  In the end, they are mostly ok with Trump since he has most of the same general policies of somebody like JEB!, like low taxes and low regulation of business, but seriously dislike his stupidity and personality.  If the choice is between Trump and Biden, they will mostly choose Trump, but if it was between Trump and JEB!, they'll much prefer JEB!.  The problem for them is that the unwashed masses, as I said before, love Trump.

Trump is actually proof that the "elite" don't control shiat.
 
2020-10-08 10:44:26 AM  
My own estimate of the size of the "true" elite is about 50,000 all told worldwide---enough to fill a good-sized sports arena. They don't all know each other, they don't even like each other, and their interests do not always cohere.

Trump is preferred by those members of the elite who got their wealth and power mostly from access to unearned rents, especially commodity rents, often but not always inherited---Putin and the Arab petro-tyrants are the most obvious examples. Their societies are closed. They like it that way. They would not remain wealthy or powerful for long in an open society, and Trump is the president least inclined to open their societies in a very long time.

"Self-made" men in Silicon Valley and Wall Street, or at any rate men who played a key role in the creation of their own wealth---men like Bill Gates and, yes, why not, if the shoe fits wear it, George Soros---are far less taken with him. Whatever else open societies mean to them, they became rich and powerful in an open society. They also want to stay rich and powerful. Their staying rich is not guaranteed in a closed society inclined to use them as scapegoats.
 
2020-10-08 10:56:16 AM  

Grungehamster: Trump is saying the quiet part louder than usual on Fox right now:

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Also had a list of states he predicts he will win once he gets the courts to throw out their mail-in ballots as illegal.


Kamala Harris fumbled her response to the question about handing over power last night. She should have responded by saying "So you are saying that President Trump is going to stage an insurrection over the outcome of the election? If so, we must be prepared to act much in the same way President Abraham Lincoln acted in 1860 when 11 states refused to accept the outcome of that election. We will defend the Constitution, refuse to negotiate with the terrorist and remove him, in accordance with the wishes of the American people."
 
2020-10-08 11:14:07 AM  
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2020-10-08 11:23:28 AM  
He's a useful idiot. They've always had those. Those idiots are called "populists."
 
2020-10-08 11:41:54 AM  

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Beware the IDs that march.
 
2020-10-08 3:11:32 PM  

Geotpf: Millennium: The grand lie of the article isn't that Trump is the id of America's ruling elites. He is. The lie is that this isn't the same as the id of Americans in general.

Trump is interesting in that his largest bastion of personal support comes from people who most certainly aren't elites in any way except skin color (IE, white, lower middle class, blue collar, no college).  The actual Republican Wall Street elites would much prefer somebody like JEB!.  In the end, they are mostly ok with Trump since he has most of the same general policies of somebody like JEB!, like low taxes and low regulation of business, but seriously dislike his stupidity and personality.  If the choice is between Trump and Biden, they will mostly choose Trump, but if it was between Trump and JEB!, they'll much prefer JEB!.  The problem for them is that the unwashed masses, as I said before, love Trump.

Trump is actually proof that the "elite" don't control shiat.


The unwashed masses did not come to the conclusion that they love Trump on their own.

The were systematically brainwashed into this political position by a sector of the mass media which is (gasp, shock horror!) controlled by elites who spread their pro-Trump propaganda because they know they will massively benefit if Trump is re-elected.

So in the end it IS all about the elites.
 
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