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2020-10-06 10:22:02 AM  
Our university is doing random testing of students weekly, and have been successfully staying open without outbreaks... and our plan is to send students home at Thanksgiving and have them finish out the semester remote.

I can't imagine how any college thinks its a good idea to send the on-campus students home and then bring them back right afterward.
 
2020-10-06 2:33:11 PM  
If you have a kid in college, you probably should have paid more attention in high school health class.
 
2020-10-06 2:34:11 PM  
Go visit them?
 
2020-10-06 2:34:58 PM  
Asinine? Yes.

Necessary? Yes.
 
2020-10-06 2:36:12 PM  
If you have a kid in college you probably shouldn't let them come home for Thanksgiving

FTFS
 
2020-10-06 2:36:17 PM  
Thanksgiving is the important time in a Freshman's life where they break up with their high school boyfriend/girlfriend.  I've seen it a 1,000 times.
 
2020-10-06 2:38:10 PM  

Tedlick: Our university is doing random testing of students weekly, and have been successfully staying open without outbreaks... and our plan is to send students home at Thanksgiving and have them finish out the semester remote.

I can't imagine how any college thinks its a good idea to send the on-campus students home and then bring them back right afterward.


Same thing that is happening on our campus as well.

/University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
 
2020-10-06 2:38:29 PM  
Just cut'em off entirely, they're as good as gone.
 
2020-10-06 2:38:52 PM  
I thought most colleges (on the semester system) were starting winter break at Thanksgiving, resuming in February? Should I just let them sleep on the patio?
 
2020-10-06 2:39:43 PM  
My son's college is going 100% remote after Thanksgiving, so they don't have to worry about them coming back infected.  He is only there now for one in person lab, microbiology.  They have some other in person labs, and "maybe" a in person class or two.
 
2020-10-06 2:39:45 PM  
My parents moved when I went away to college.  They said they'll fax me the address but it's been a while.  I think they're just too embarrassed to admit they don't know their address.  But next to the fax machine, I wait oh these long forty years.
 
2020-10-06 2:40:04 PM  
Lil Spawn comes home nearly every weekend. She's on the dance team at college, so they are basically in their own little bubble. The college has a "quarantine dorm" where they go if they have either symptoms or have been contact-traced to someone who has. She actually thinks they are being OVERLY protective because they won't let her dance team perform at other school's games (her school's games have been postponed until the Spring). I told her that they're just doing what they think is best. I think we are all yearning for some normalcy, but it's just not time yet.

If she comes home for Thanksgiving, we may go see my parents & that's it. If not, we stay home & have Turkey sandwiches while I yell at football.
 
2020-10-06 2:40:30 PM  
Most of the Unis around here are not coming re-opening campuses after Thanksgiving.  Closed from November 25th to probably early February.  So, if you don't take them back for Thanksgiving, they're going to be on the streets for quite a bit.
 
2020-10-06 2:40:55 PM  
College was awesome in the 90s.  My heart goes out to these kids.  I just hope they are paying attention to what is going on around them.  We need you.
 
2020-10-06 2:41:37 PM  
Kids absolutely should not be leaving campus for a long weekend.  If they would have to return for finals, they should just stay on campus.

Moot issue in my family.  My son's university started classes first week of August and semester is over at Thanksgiving, so he is coming home and staying home (for nearly 2 months).
 
2020-10-06 2:42:36 PM  

mcsiegs: College was awesome in the 90s.  My heart goes out to these kids.  I just hope they are paying attention to what is going on around them.  We need you.


I started college in'97 and totally agree with you.
 
2020-10-06 2:44:40 PM  
The university I work at tests undergraduates every 3 days (twice a week) and faculty, staff and grad students weekly if they are on campus.  Any student going home for Thanksgiving is encouraged to finish the semester there or they will need to go through the same 2 week quarantine and 3 negative test as when they first came on campus.
 
2020-10-06 2:45:21 PM  
When I was in college I would have loved to spend the holidays in the dorms.

I spent 18 years at home.  Why the hell would I want to go back?
 
2020-10-06 2:47:08 PM  
The whole idea of opening schools during this pandemic was F*CKING STUPID.
 
2020-10-06 2:47:22 PM  
Forget Thanksgiving.

Once your spawn is age 18 and out of the house, change the lock on your home's front door.
 
2020-10-06 2:52:20 PM  
They shouldn't be testing individual students. They should be testing waste water from dorms and from blocks of student apartments.
 
2020-10-06 2:53:37 PM  
And I thought that college was where you discovered that you could not go home for Thanksgiving and the sun still rose the next day.

\went home for my freshman Thanksgiving
\\big mistake
\\not to mention you're probably going to be in an enclosed conveyance with strangers for a long time
 
2020-10-06 2:54:31 PM  
Way ahead of ya subby.

Sometime next year we'll send the college freshman our new address.
 
2020-10-06 2:55:39 PM  

whidbey: The whole idea of opening schools during this pandemic was F*CKING STUPID.


Even more stupid considering this isn't 1918 anymore and we actually have options for remote learning. They aren't perfect, but we have more tools now to help combat a highly contagious disease outbreak. Sadly, our society has decided reason and science are for "libs", so we're utterly failing to meet this crisis. Instead, we're a global laughingstock.
 
2020-10-06 3:00:24 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Thanksgiving is the important time in a Freshman's life where they break up with their high school boyfriend/girlfriend.  I've seen it a 1,000 times.


Gonna have to Zoom dump now.

I read the headline wrong.
 
2020-10-06 3:01:34 PM  

whidbey: The whole idea of opening schools during this pandemic was F*CKING STUPID.


At least there's one thing we can agree on.
 
2020-10-06 3:03:15 PM  

IndyJohn: Kids absolutely should not be leaving campus for a long weekend.  If they would have to return for finals, they should just stay on campus.


You do know that some schools kick students out of the dorms during breaks, right?
 
2020-10-06 3:05:59 PM  
I'd advise younger me to take the semester off or take some credits at the less expensive junior college. Being able to have lighter course and virus load when I returned to school might have been tempting, but I'm sure you couldn't' keep younger me away. Not college was not as fun.
 
2020-10-06 3:09:03 PM  
If you have an American that you need to do the right, smart thing you probably shouldn't be telling them the actual thing. Nope, it's reverse psychology for the child-in-chief down from here on out...

Whatever you do, under no circumstances should you even consider the remote possibility of letting your kids skip a holiday they detest as much as you do for a change.

I repeat, DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS STAY AWAY FROM RELATIVES THEY CAN BARELY TOLERATE TO PARTY WITH THEIR RONA INFECTED FRIENDS.
 
2020-10-06 3:13:27 PM  

ImpendingCynic: IndyJohn: Kids absolutely should not be leaving campus for a long weekend.  If they would have to return for finals, they should just stay on campus.

You do know that some schools kick students out of the dorms during breaks, right?


Yes but generally not when that break is less than a week. 

Also if the school is trying to pull that now the parents should be raising holy hell.
 
2020-10-06 3:16:28 PM  

RedVentrue: Rapmaster2000: Thanksgiving is the important time in a Freshman's life where they break up with their high school boyfriend/girlfriend.  I've seen it a 1,000 times.

Gonna have to Zoom dump now.

I read the headline wrong.


Zoom dumping = video conference from the bathroom?
 
2020-10-06 3:19:01 PM  

APO_Buddha: Tedlick: Our university is doing random testing of students weekly, and have been successfully staying open without outbreaks... and our plan is to send students home at Thanksgiving and have them finish out the semester remote.

I can't imagine how any college thinks its a good idea to send the on-campus students home and then bring them back right afterward.

Same thing that is happening on our campus as well.

/University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign


My daughter's college is doing the same. However she is living in a university apartment instead of a dorm so she will go live in the apartment. We're paying for the housing so might as well get our money's worth. The school probably isn't going to reimburse folks again like they did for the shortened spring semester.
 
2020-10-06 3:27:54 PM  
My daughter is in her final year at Champlain, and I just asked her what they do at her school.

VT has a pretty reasonable grasp of dealing with COVID as it is, she said that so far, since going back they've had one case, and they test every single student who physically comes on campus once a week.

"A gentle nasal rimming weekly".

Imagine that. The states that take it seriously, test regularly and have strict mask policies are seeing far fewer cases and deaths.

Go figure.
 
2020-10-06 3:28:06 PM  

mongbiohazard: whidbey: The whole idea of opening schools during this pandemic was F*CKING STUPID.

Even more stupid considering this isn't 1918 anymore and we actually have options for remote learning. They aren't perfect, but we have more tools now to help combat a highly contagious disease outbreak. Sadly, our society has decided reason and science are for "libs", so we're utterly failing to meet this crisis. Instead, we're a global laughingstock.


Hmmmmmm ... about that ...

Must be nice to be white and afford technology and internet connections that allow for distance learning.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/us​/​coronavirus-education-lost-learning.ht​ml
 
2020-10-06 3:36:49 PM  
Unless the "student" is doing essential work when not in class, the "student" is a non essential person.  Make some camps in the great plains, and ship all the "students" there.  Put them all in camps, and make them wait out the epidemic until the virus has been eradicated.  Weld all non essential people into their homes, and make it so that only essential people on essential buisness are out and about.  Have the military execute all others if they violate quarantine.  Problem solved.
 
2020-10-06 3:39:49 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Unless the "student" is doing essential work when not in class, the "student" is a non essential person.  Make some camps in the great plains, and ship all the "students" there.  Put them all in camps, and make them wait out the epidemic until the virus has been eradicated.  Weld all non essential people into their homes, and make it so that only essential people on essential buisness are out and about.  Have the military execute all others if they violate quarantine.  Problem solved.


your handle checks out
 
2020-10-06 3:45:31 PM  
I don't have any students returning home, but I'm still worried about Thanksgiving with the family.

A few weeks ago my sister hosted a baby shower for one of our friends, and she talked a big game about making it as safe as possible, and saying she'd kick anyone out who wouldn't wear a mask, but when the day came she was full of hot air. Only 4 people - including my wife and I - wore masks. Lots of people crowded closely, and plenty of folks inside the house hanging out together too. Basically, the only difference from usual was she put a sign up saying to wear masks on her door, then did nothing about no one wearing any - including herself and her husband.

So... seems like Thanksgiving is just going to be us gathering in one of our homes like usual. And I'm not OK with that, which is going to mean the rest of the family is going to have Thanksgiving together, and I'm going to be the "weird" one for thinking we should be doing something different.

But my wife's folks just moved into a retirement home, and her dad is fading fast (age). He probably only has one year, maybe two left before the end - if not old age killing him, his mind will be gone. So if we get infected or exposed, she can't visit them for a while, and I'm trying to encourage her to spend as much time as possible with him while she can.
 
2020-10-06 3:49:11 PM  

whidbey: The whole idea of opening schools during this pandemic was F*CKING STUPID.


IIRC, you hate Thanksgiving.  Yes, yes?
 
2020-10-06 3:49:18 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: AmbassadorBooze: Unless the "student" is doing essential work when not in class, the "student" is a non essential person.  Make some camps in the great plains, and ship all the "students" there.  Put them all in camps, and make them wait out the epidemic until the virus has been eradicated.  Weld all non essential people into their homes, and make it so that only essential people on essential buisness are out and about.  Have the military execute all others if they violate quarantine.  Problem solved.

your handle checks out


My solution will solve the virus problem.  Asking people nicely to "please put on a mask and don't have public butt to mouth orgies" hasn't worked.  People are not willingly doing the right thing.  We have to force the plauge rats to do the right thing, since evidence shows that they are trying to kill us.  Only military action now will work.
 
2020-10-06 3:51:45 PM  
My crotch fruit is coming and staying online for the rest of the semester. I think pretty much everrybody in Florida is doing the same.
 
2020-10-06 3:53:12 PM  
These college infection rates have broader impacts than just on the health of students and their families.

We have had a few pockets of persistent college and university hotspots pop up, which has in turn pushed our statewide positive test rates and per-capita infection rates up over the red-zone thresholds.

I'm thinking we would have regressed to these levels at some point this fall/winter anyway, but the influx of college students certainly got us there much faster than we would have hoped. Now, we're in the doghouse of our neighboring states, not allowed to travel in without quarantining.
 
2020-10-06 3:53:50 PM  

Devo: but I'm sure you couldn't' keep younger me away. Not college was not as fun.


That's my reflection on it too. And I didn't have 1/4th the fun of many of my less-shy and less-ugly dormmates!

Especially when you consider that "stay at home and take online classes" would have meant staying in my folks' trailer in beyond-dead-end rural sticksville... and would have equally meant not having the student hourly jobs and internships that eventually turned into a professional career. It really wasn't an option. A 1-2% chance of dying would have been worth the risk.  A 10% chance would be a "well, maybe".
 
2020-10-06 3:56:29 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Weld all non essential people into their homes, and make it so that only essential people on essential buisness are out and about. Have the military execute all others if they violate quarantine. Problem solved.


This can be done in the USA if you:

1) completely disregard all Constitutional rights
2) completely replace and staff the military with nothing but psychopaths
3) completely ignore the fact that there are ~400 million guns in the hands of the US population, a large percentage of whom will use them to forcefully resist being "welded into their homes."

So, in other words, your plan has less than zero percent chance of happening. But your drunken ramblings are comedy gold, brother!
 
2020-10-06 3:58:22 PM  

mongbiohazard: I don't have any students returning home, but I'm still worried about Thanksgiving with the family.

A few weeks ago my sister hosted a baby shower for one of our friends, and she talked a big game about making it as safe as possible, and saying she'd kick anyone out who wouldn't wear a mask, but when the day came she was full of hot air. Only 4 people - including my wife and I - wore masks. Lots of people crowded closely, and plenty of folks inside the house hanging out together too. Basically, the only difference from usual was she put a sign up saying to wear masks on her door, then did nothing about no one wearing any - including herself and her husband.

So... seems like Thanksgiving is just going to be us gathering in one of our homes like usual. And I'm not OK with that, which is going to mean the rest of the family is going to have Thanksgiving together, and I'm going to be the "weird" one for thinking we should be doing something different.

But my wife's folks just moved into a retirement home, and her dad is fading fast (age). He probably only has one year, maybe two left before the end - if not old age killing him, his mind will be gone. So if we get infected or exposed, she can't visit them for a while, and I'm trying to encourage her to spend as much time as possible with him while she can.


Disown your sister.  She is a liar, and is trying to kill you.  Would you stay in a family relationship with a person who put a loaded gun to your head every time you saw them?  The virus is deadly.  The virus is killing the economy.  The virus is killing small buisness.  The virus is killing our family members.  Your sister is killing our family members.  Your sister is going up to small buisness owners, putting a gun to their head and blasting their brains out on the side walk.  You sister is guilty of all the problems we are having.

And I have to say "no" to your wife visiting her dad.  My dad was in the hospital a month ago, and they didn't let me visit him.  Then when he had no hope of survial and was a brain dead husk, they transferred him to hospice, and let me visit his body.  If it is good enough for the government to stop me from seeing my dying dad when he was brain alive, it is good enough for everybody during corona world.  Your wife isn't special.  Let her suffer as I did.  I am alive still, so not seeing your dad won't kill you.  Too bad, so sad.
 
2020-10-06 3:59:00 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Unless the "student" is doing essential work when not in class, the "student" is a non essential person.  Make some camps in the great plains, and ship all the "students" there.  Put them all in camps, and make them wait out the epidemic until the virus has been eradicated.  Weld all non essential people into their homes, and make it so that only essential people on essential buisness are out and about.  Have the military execute all others if they violate quarantine.  Problem solved.


You're either trolling or you have a serious boner for tyranny.
 
2020-10-06 4:10:23 PM  

The_Sponge: whidbey: The whole idea of opening schools during this pandemic was F*CKING STUPID.

IIRC, you hate Thanksgiving.  Yes, yes?


Thanksgiving is stupid, wasteful and facepalmingly anachronistic, thanks for asking, but given the current pandemic, we should not be celebrating it with large groups of people, especially families we could put at risk.

You're mad, aren't you?
 
2020-10-06 4:19:21 PM  

gretzkyscores: AmbassadorBooze: Weld all non essential people into their homes, and make it so that only essential people on essential buisness are out and about. Have the military execute all others if they violate quarantine. Problem solved.

This can be done in the USA if you:

1) completely disregard all Constitutional rights
2) completely replace and staff the military with nothing but psychopaths
3) completely ignore the fact that there are ~400 million guns in the hands of the US population, a large percentage of whom will use them to forcefully resist being "welded into their homes."

So, in other words, your plan has less than zero percent chance of happening. But your drunken ramblings are comedy gold, brother!


Well, I guess you can "hope" for some "change" to the current Covid situation ... but let's not kid ourselves; short of exactly what AmbassadorBooze mentioned, Covid ain't going away no matter HOW hard you wish everyone will wear masks. We've simply accepted that people will die because grocery shopping and Targets are "essential."

Keeping places open is quite essential to the end goal of forcing poor people to die. 

I'm guessing nobody here would volunteer to run the cash register at the local Stop 'N Shop and interact with hundreds of people a day stocking up on Stouffers Mac 'n Cheese and Little Debbie snacks so that all those minimum wage monkeys didn't have to risk getting Covid.

But, then again, poor people are expendable ... and it's not just Republicans who believe that. It's anyone who isn't for a full and total month-long shut down. 

Announce it today that on October 31st, nobody will be allowed to leave their homes for the month of November and then arrest anyone who does. This gives everyone a few weeks to stock up on a month's worth of staples, get prepared, and then lock it all down. 

Anything less is simply demanding others die for your convenience.
 
2020-10-06 4:24:26 PM  

whidbey: The_Sponge: whidbey: The whole idea of opening schools during this pandemic was F*CKING STUPID.

IIRC, you hate Thanksgiving.  Yes, yes?

Thanksgiving is stupid, wasteful and facepalmingly anachronistic, thanks for asking, but given the current pandemic, we should not be celebrating it with large groups of people, especially families we could put at risk.

You're mad, aren't you?


Nope.  But thank you for once again demonstrating how joyless you are.

"I bet you're a blast at parties."

Let me guess...you hate July 4th as well, eh?
 
2020-10-06 4:26:58 PM  

Tedlick: Our university is doing random testing of students weekly, and have been successfully staying open without outbreaks... and our plan is to send students home at Thanksgiving and have them finish out the semester remote.

I can't imagine how any college thinks its a good idea to send the on-campus students home and then bring them back right afterward.


Who is doing that?

Looks like most residential schools are either finishing their semester at Thanksgiving or going online only for November-December.

All of them are starting late in the spring and cancelling spring break too.
 
2020-10-06 4:29:38 PM  
Depends on the health status of the parents and if they have any old or sick people in the house.

Most people with college age kids are young enough to not really have to worry.
But fat asses etc, so no universal answer.
 
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