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2020-10-01 1:20:16 PM  
Valid DL.
No voter impropriety.

Problem?
 
2020-10-01 1:43:31 PM  
it's Pike County, which is so far east it's practically in New York anyway. hell - it's even part of the NYC television DMA. it's also virtually empty - outside of Milford and Matamoras, it's just long stretches of dirt roads and trailers. you don't even see many farms - the past ice age did a number on that area of the state and fields were so full of rocks that it was a nightmare to try to plow and plant crops. drive on I-84 between Port Jervis and Scranton, and if you listen carefully you can hear the banjos

fun fact about Pike County - the western part of the county is nicknamed "promised land" (as in promised land state park) in an ironic way. during the 18th and 19th centuries, speculators bought worthless land and marketed to immigrants seeking to escape the city by calling it the "promised land". it's garbage land to do anything there except hunt and trip over rocks

/Lackawaxen is neat to see the Roebling bridge which used to carry the canal over the Delaware River. it's now a one lane bridge for cars
//and the tri-states monument under the I-84 bridge on the NY side of the river is cool to see if not totally inaccurate. the three states border is in the middle of the river, but going through the graveyard to get to it is neat
 
2020-10-01 5:05:58 PM  
If it's not your primary home, then no, you don't get to vote there.
 
2020-10-01 5:36:02 PM  
"Flyover Country" is sick of seeing coastal liberals flee their unlivable hellhole cities that long term Democrat control has produced, only to vote to impose the same liberal policies in their new towns that turned their old towns into shiatholes in the first place.

/Stay in the mess that you voted for, or vote like the places you are escaping to.
//We don't care how you did it in New Jersey
 
2020-10-01 7:55:10 PM  

Mentat: If it's not your primary home, then no, you don't get to vote there.


It seems in the article that many have changed their primary home status since Covid-19.
 
2020-10-01 7:59:08 PM  
Let me guess. RW shenanigans?

*click*

FTA: "The seemingly bureaucratic dispute has undeniable political undertones. Pike County voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump in 2016 and looks poised to do so again this year. But it has seen a surge in new arrivals since March-primarily New Yorkers like..."

Ah, there it is.

As long as you are not voting twice you should be allowed to vote at whatever residence you are living at.
 
2020-10-01 7:59:23 PM  
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I hope this never gets old.
 
2020-10-01 7:59:33 PM  

Il Douchey: "Flyover Country" is sick of seeing coastal liberals flee their unlivable hellhole cities that long term Democrat control has produced, only to vote to impose the same liberal policies in their new towns that turned their old towns into shiatholes in the first place.

/Stay in the mess that you voted for, or vote like the places you are escaping to.
//We don't care how you did it in New Jersey


"Flyover Country" hates anyone darker than paper. That's it. Nobody's moving to Lower Bumfark to create a homeless shelter. They could do a lot more to stop people from moving in, but the pesky Constitution says they've got to shut up and be grateful for the extra cash flow.
 
2020-10-01 7:59:43 PM  
The wurst of Westchester?
 
2020-10-01 8:00:19 PM  

Mentat: If it's not your primary home, then no, you don't get to vote there.

Virtually all of the flyer's alleged voter qualifications are false, as a group of local attorneys informed the elections board on Monday in an alarmed letter. Pennsylvania voters are not required to have a Pennsylvania driver's license to register. They are not required to have bank statements, payroll stubs, or insurance policies with a Pennsylvania address. They do not have to file federal taxes from a Pennsylvania address and spend more than 183 days per year in the state.


And then

On Tuesday, I asked the Pennsylvania secretary of state's office about the Pike County Elections Office's misinformation. A spokeswoman told me that "the Department of State, in response to a request from Pike County officials some weeks ago, provided a list of the only three qualifications there are to register." A qualified voter must have been a U.S. citizen for at least one month before the election, been a resident of their election district for 30 days before the election, and be 18 years old.

"The Pennsylvania Constitution and the Pennsylvania Election Code include no other qualifications to be registered," the spokeswoman said, "and they do not require a resident to obtain documentation proving residency prior to registering to vote."


Come on, man.  I know it's a point of pride around here not to RTFA, but.
 
2020-10-01 8:00:57 PM  

Mentat: If it's not your primary home, then no, you don't get to vote there.


So then you also support election officials sending out false propaganda with a threat of imprisonment in order to dissuade people from rightfully registering to vote?

Or did you not bother to RTFA?
 
2020-10-01 8:02:42 PM  
3 requirements and blonde of them have anything to do with the false flyer the county was promoting.

It's clear voter disenfranchisement.
 
2020-10-01 8:02:58 PM  
None not blonde LOL
 
2020-10-01 8:03:21 PM  
Republicans 2016: If Democrats keep insisting on moving into their bubble cities instead of living in Real America (TM) of course they're not going to be able to win elections. The system is set up so a few cities can't control the whole country. They should try living here rather than in their bubbles.

Democrats 2020: Work from home has enables us to telework from anywhere. We're moving to Real America (TM)

Republicans 2020: Democrats shouldn't be allowed to vote in Real America (TM) even if they live there.
 
2020-10-01 8:03:52 PM  

Mentat: If it's not your primary home, then no, you don't get to vote there.


"On Tuesday, I asked the Pennsylvania secretary of state's office about the Pike County Elections Office's misinformation. A spokeswoman told me that "the Department of State, in response to a request from Pike County officials some weeks ago, provided a list of the only three qualifications there are to register." A qualified voter must have been a U.S. citizen for at least one month before the election, been a resident of their election district for 30 days before the election, and be 18 years old. "

Looks like the Secretary of State is wrong.  I'm sure they are rushing to update their guidance based on your opinion.
 
2020-10-01 8:07:40 PM  

quatchi: Let me guess. RW shenanigans?

*click*

FTA: "The seemingly bureaucratic dispute has undeniable political undertones. Pike County voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump in 2016 and looks poised to do so again this year. But it has seen a surge in new arrivals since March-primarily New Yorkers like..."

Ah, there it is.

As long as you are not voting twice you should be allowed to vote at whatever residence you are living at.


Part of declaring residency is having a valid DL from the state you're declaring as your residence. The woman in the article did not. She was trying to vote in PA with a NY driver's license.

Go to the PennDOT office, get your NY DL converted to a PA DL, then come back and vote.
 
2020-10-01 8:11:08 PM  

dustman81: quatchi: Let me guess. RW shenanigans?

*click*

FTA: "The seemingly bureaucratic dispute has undeniable political undertones. Pike County voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump in 2016 and looks poised to do so again this year. But it has seen a surge in new arrivals since March-primarily New Yorkers like..."

Ah, there it is.

As long as you are not voting twice you should be allowed to vote at whatever residence you are living at.

Part of declaring residency is having a valid DL from the state you're declaring as your residence. The woman in the article did not. She was trying to vote in PA with a NY driver's license.

Go to the PennDOT office, get your NY DL converted to a PA DL, then come back and vote.


Guess you should call the PA SecState and let them know.
 
2020-10-01 8:11:50 PM  

vudukungfu: Valid DL.
No voter impropriety.

Problem?


Not everyone drives?
 
2020-10-01 8:13:01 PM  

dustman81: quatchi: Let me guess. RW shenanigans?

*click*

FTA: "The seemingly bureaucratic dispute has undeniable political undertones. Pike County voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump in 2016 and looks poised to do so again this year. But it has seen a surge in new arrivals since March-primarily New Yorkers like..."

Ah, there it is.

As long as you are not voting twice you should be allowed to vote at whatever residence you are living at.

Part of declaring residency is having a valid DL from the state you're declaring as your residence. The woman in the article did not. She was trying to vote in PA with a NY driver's license.

Go to the PennDOT office, get your NY DL converted to a PA DL, then come back and vote.


BS. If a kid from NY goes to college in pa and lives there while at school they can vote in pa.

They don't have to change their address.
 
2020-10-01 8:13:09 PM  

dustman81: quatchi: Let me guess. RW shenanigans?

*click*

FTA: "The seemingly bureaucratic dispute has undeniable political undertones. Pike County voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump in 2016 and looks poised to do so again this year. But it has seen a surge in new arrivals since March-primarily New Yorkers like..."

Ah, there it is.

As long as you are not voting twice you should be allowed to vote at whatever residence you are living at.

Part of declaring residency is having a valid DL from the state you're declaring as your residence. The woman in the article did not. She was trying to vote in PA with a NY driver's license.

Go to the PennDOT office, get your NY DL converted to a PA DL, then come back and vote.


Funny that the state of Pennsylvania is unaware of this requirement... But I am sure you will find plenty of good support for this rule existing other than the bullshiat letter this county sent out.
 
2020-10-01 8:13:50 PM  

Mentat: If it's not your primary home, then no, you don't get to vote there.


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2020-10-01 8:13:52 PM  

vudukungfu: Valid DL.
No voter impropriety.

Problem?


And if someone doesn't vote?
 
2020-10-01 8:14:40 PM  
This stems from the years past practice of NYers registering to vote in Pike County and not actually living there.  Some would even register in both places.

Also, Pennsylvania law requires you to change your license within 10 days of moving.  PA car insurance is cheaper.

So while not illegal to register to vote while still holding onto your NY license, it's illegal to drive with it or use it to register a vehicle.
 
2020-10-01 8:15:50 PM  

dywed88: vudukungfu: Valid DL.
No voter impropriety.

Problem?

And if someone doesn't vote?


Err doesn't drive.
 
2020-10-01 8:16:34 PM  

dustman81: quatchi: Let me guess. RW shenanigans?

*click*

FTA: "The seemingly bureaucratic dispute has undeniable political undertones. Pike County voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump in 2016 and looks poised to do so again this year. But it has seen a surge in new arrivals since March-primarily New Yorkers like..."

Ah, there it is.

As long as you are not voting twice you should be allowed to vote at whatever residence you are living at.

Part of declaring residency is having a valid DL from the state you're declaring as your residence. The woman in the article did not. She was trying to vote in PA with a NY driver's license.

Go to the PennDOT office, get your NY DL converted to a PA DL, then come back and vote.


College students in PA can vote in PA while going to school there.  Doing so does not require you to have a PA driver's license.  The registration form allows for you to use your SSN or to seek alternatives if you have neither.

Homeless people can vote, too. And the registration form allows for this.

So, no, you don't need a PA driver's license. This is false.
 
2020-10-01 8:17:15 PM  

austerity101: Mentat: If it's not your primary home, then no, you don't get to vote there.

Virtually all of the flyer's alleged voter qualifications are false, as a group of local attorneys informed the elections board on Monday in an alarmed letter. Pennsylvania voters are not required to have a Pennsylvania driver's license to register. They are not required to have bank statements, payroll stubs, or insurance policies with a Pennsylvania address. They do not have to file federal taxes from a Pennsylvania address and spend more than 183 days per year in the state.

And then

On Tuesday, I asked the Pennsylvania secretary of state's office about the Pike County Elections Office's misinformation. A spokeswoman told me that "the Department of State, in response to a request from Pike County officials some weeks ago, provided a list of the only three qualifications there are to register." A qualified voter must have been a U.S. citizen for at least one month before the election, been a resident of their election district for 30 days before the election, and be 18 years old.

"The Pennsylvania Constitution and the Pennsylvania Election Code include no other qualifications to be registered," the spokeswoman said, "and they do not require a resident to obtain documentation proving residency prior to registering to vote."

Come on, man.  I know it's a point of pride around here not to RTFA, but.


The problem, really, is that nobody should be registered to vote in multiple states at the same time.  But there are no safeguards against this in most if not all states.  I'm currently registered to vote in Florida, a state I last lived in in 2015, and Michigan, which I left in 2018, in addition to my current state of residence.  It's not because I have homes there still (I don't), but because old voter registrations don't get canceled by new ones.  What likely happened here is some county clerk deciding to take up the mantle of preventing election fraud without legal authority to do so in the chosen manner.

If people want to register to vote in PA during a period of obviously temporary residence, doing so should automatically cancel their registration in NY.  That's not saying that this person should have been denied, but there should be a national system ensuring that these things are coordinated so that you can only be registered to vote in one place at a time.  It wouldn't have to be restrictive, just comprehensive.

Perhaps a solution in search of a real problem, but it would not be difficult to implement.
 
2020-10-01 8:17:16 PM  

Goimir: This stems from the years past practice of NYers registering to vote in Pike County and not actually living there.  Some would even register in both places.

Also, Pennsylvania law requires you to change your license within 10 days of moving.  PA car insurance is cheaper.

So while not illegal to register to vote while still holding onto your NY license, it's illegal to drive with it or use it to register a vehicle.


All of which is irrelevant if people who moved to PA are being denied the right to vote.
 
2020-10-01 8:17:30 PM  
Front-platers moving in from Jersey has always been a point of contention in these parts since the 90s at least. Covid has sent real estate markets into a frenzy as people fled the city, similar to the 2000s boom after 9/11, likely more so. Same shiat different decade. Pike isn't on 80 east so they are new to the younger city folk now that you don't have to commute every day thanks to zoom. Not just retired hippies anymore. Wait til the school districts swell and property tax jumps. Enjoy.

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/neighbor to the south
 
2020-10-01 8:19:13 PM  

wxboy: The problem, really, is that nobody should be registered to vote in multiple states at the same time.  But there are no safeguards against this in most if not all states.  I'm currently registered to vote in Florida, a state I last lived in in 2015, and Michigan, which I left in 2018, in addition to my current state of residence.  It's not because I have homes there still (I don't), but because old voter registrations don't get canceled by new ones.  What likely happened here is some county clerk deciding to take up the mantle of preventing election fraud without legal authority to do so in the chosen manner.

If people want to register to vote in PA during a period of obviously temporary residence, doing so should automatically cancel their registration in NY.  That's not saying that this person should have been denied, but there should be a national system ensuring that these things are coordinated so that you can only be registered to vote in one place at a time.  It wouldn't have to be restrictive, just comprehensive.

Perhaps a solution in search of a real problem, but it would not be difficult to implement.


You're not really wrong, but it's also immaterial for the purposes of this story.  Solving the problem of people registering to vote in two different places doesn't require disenfranchising people who've moved.
 
2020-10-01 8:20:09 PM  

dustman81: quatchi: Let me guess. RW shenanigans?

*click*

FTA: "The seemingly bureaucratic dispute has undeniable political undertones. Pike County voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump in 2016 and looks poised to do so again this year. But it has seen a surge in new arrivals since March-primarily New Yorkers like..."

Ah, there it is.

As long as you are not voting twice you should be allowed to vote at whatever residence you are living at.

Part of declaring residency is having a valid DL from the state you're declaring as your residence. The woman in the article did not. She was trying to vote in PA with a NY driver's license.

Go to the PennDOT office, get your NY DL converted to a PA DL, then come back and vote.


The only Penndot driver's license center around here is open 2 days a week for a couple hours. You better be there when they open to get a number, and then spend 2 hours listening to old people go full Karen because they didn't bring the right paperwork for their Real ID, and usually getting mad because a licence to carry isn't an acceptable form of ID.

I got my DL at 25 and needed the same paperwork to get a normal license as what you need for a real ID currently, but have listened to people biatch for years how easy it is to get an ID when they've had a licence since they were 16. Now I get to laugh at them having hissy fits at the DMV because they didn't read the requirements before showing up to get a real ID with just their license.
 
2020-10-01 8:20:35 PM  

Goimir: This stems from the years past practice of NYers registering to vote in Pike County and not actually living there.  Some would even register in both places.

Also, Pennsylvania law requires you to change your license within 10 days of moving.  PA car insurance is cheaper.

So while not illegal to register to vote while still holding onto your NY license, it's illegal to drive with it or use it to register a vehicle.


It also means they need to get their vehicles titled and registered in PA. Which for New Yorkers is a bonus, as they can lose their front license plate holder.
 
2020-10-01 8:20:55 PM  
Convict them of assault and batteries.
 
2020-10-01 8:21:40 PM  

NihilismKat: dustman81: quatchi: Let me guess. RW shenanigans?

*click*

FTA: "The seemingly bureaucratic dispute has undeniable political undertones. Pike County voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump in 2016 and looks poised to do so again this year. But it has seen a surge in new arrivals since March-primarily New Yorkers like..."

Ah, there it is.

As long as you are not voting twice you should be allowed to vote at whatever residence you are living at.

Part of declaring residency is having a valid DL from the state you're declaring as your residence. The woman in the article did not. She was trying to vote in PA with a NY driver's license.

Go to the PennDOT office, get your NY DL converted to a PA DL, then come back and vote.

The only Penndot driver's license center around here is open 2 days a week for a couple hours. You better be there when they open to get a number, and then spend 2 hours listening to old people go full Karen because they didn't bring the right paperwork for their Real ID, and usually getting mad because a licence to carry isn't an acceptable form of ID.

I got my DL at 25 and needed the same paperwork to get a normal license as what you need for a real ID currently, but have listened to people biatch for years how easy it is to get an ID when they've had a licence since they were 16. Now I get to laugh at them having hissy fits at the DMV because they didn't read the requirements before showing up to get a real ID with just their license.


Your state's licensing procedure is as screwed up as your liquor laws.
 
2020-10-01 8:22:45 PM  

wxboy: austerity101: Mentat: If it's not your primary home, then no, you don't get to vote there.

Virtually all of the flyer's alleged voter qualifications are false, as a group of local attorneys informed the elections board on Monday in an alarmed letter. Pennsylvania voters are not required to have a Pennsylvania driver's license to register. They are not required to have bank statements, payroll stubs, or insurance policies with a Pennsylvania address. They do not have to file federal taxes from a Pennsylvania address and spend more than 183 days per year in the state.

And then

On Tuesday, I asked the Pennsylvania secretary of state's office about the Pike County Elections Office's misinformation. A spokeswoman told me that "the Department of State, in response to a request from Pike County officials some weeks ago, provided a list of the only three qualifications there are to register." A qualified voter must have been a U.S. citizen for at least one month before the election, been a resident of their election district for 30 days before the election, and be 18 years old.

"The Pennsylvania Constitution and the Pennsylvania Election Code include no other qualifications to be registered," the spokeswoman said, "and they do not require a resident to obtain documentation proving residency prior to registering to vote."

Come on, man.  I know it's a point of pride around here not to RTFA, but.

The problem, really, is that nobody should be registered to vote in multiple states at the same time.  But there are no safeguards against this in most if not all states.  I'm currently registered to vote in Florida, a state I last lived in in 2015, and Michigan, which I left in 2018, in addition to my current state of residence.  It's not because I have homes there still (I don't), but because old voter registrations don't get canceled by new ones.  What likely happened here is some county clerk deciding to take up the mantle of preventing election fraud without legal authority to do so in the chosen manner.

If people want to register to vote in PA during a period of obviously temporary residence, doing so should automatically cancel their registration in NY.  That's not saying that this person should have been denied, but there should be a national system ensuring that these things are coordinated so that you can only be registered to vote in one place at a time.  It wouldn't have to be restrictive, just comprehensive.

Perhaps a solution in search of a real problem, but it would not be difficult to implement.


If it had just been the story of one person who was rejected, maybe that would have weight.

But the blatantly false legal threats to scare people into not registering makes undermine any possible justification.

There is no national voter registration system (and the GOP will never allow one). Unless there is one there will be no way to ensure voter registrations are cancelled when new ones are created. On the other hand, there is no reason to think it is actually an issue as the GOP has invested tons of time and money into finding anyone voting in multiple locations over the past twenty years and have found essentially nothing.
 
2020-10-01 8:23:04 PM  

dustman81: NihilismKat: dustman81: quatchi: Let me guess. RW shenanigans?

*click*

FTA: "The seemingly bureaucratic dispute has undeniable political undertones. Pike County voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump in 2016 and looks poised to do so again this year. But it has seen a surge in new arrivals since March-primarily New Yorkers like..."

Ah, there it is.

As long as you are not voting twice you should be allowed to vote at whatever residence you are living at.

Part of declaring residency is having a valid DL from the state you're declaring as your residence. The woman in the article did not. She was trying to vote in PA with a NY driver's license.

Go to the PennDOT office, get your NY DL converted to a PA DL, then come back and vote.

The only Penndot driver's license center around here is open 2 days a week for a couple hours. You better be there when they open to get a number, and then spend 2 hours listening to old people go full Karen because they didn't bring the right paperwork for their Real ID, and usually getting mad because a licence to carry isn't an acceptable form of ID.

I got my DL at 25 and needed the same paperwork to get a normal license as what you need for a real ID currently, but have listened to people biatch for years how easy it is to get an ID when they've had a licence since they were 16. Now I get to laugh at them having hissy fits at the DMV because they didn't read the requirements before showing up to get a real ID with just their license.

Your state's licensing procedure is as screwed up as your liquor laws.


That is a bold statement, friend.
 
2020-10-01 8:24:11 PM  

dustman81: NihilismKat: dustman81: quatchi: Let me guess. RW shenanigans?

*click*

FTA: "The seemingly bureaucratic dispute has undeniable political undertones. Pike County voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump in 2016 and looks poised to do so again this year. But it has seen a surge in new arrivals since March-primarily New Yorkers like..."

Ah, there it is.

As long as you are not voting twice you should be allowed to vote at whatever residence you are living at.

Part of declaring residency is having a valid DL from the state you're declaring as your residence. The woman in the article did not. She was trying to vote in PA with a NY driver's license.

Go to the PennDOT office, get your NY DL converted to a PA DL, then come back and vote.

The only Penndot driver's license center around here is open 2 days a week for a couple hours. You better be there when they open to get a number, and then spend 2 hours listening to old people go full Karen because they didn't bring the right paperwork for their Real ID, and usually getting mad because a licence to carry isn't an acceptable form of ID.

I got my DL at 25 and needed the same paperwork to get a normal license as what you need for a real ID currently, but have listened to people biatch for years how easy it is to get an ID when they've had a licence since they were 16. Now I get to laugh at them having hissy fits at the DMV because they didn't read the requirements before showing up to get a real ID with just their license.

Your state's licensing procedure is as screwed up as your liquor laws.


It's PA we like doing things the most difficult and inconvenient way possible.
 
2020-10-01 8:26:34 PM  

flondrix: vudukungfu: Valid DL.
No voter impropriety.

Problem?

Not everyone drives?


Yeah. Except that is the first piece of id every mouth breathing hick in PA demands. Especially cops. If you are even just walking.
I'm sure those newyawkahs ubered on over to their second hovels.

I used to have a few DLs for a few states. Then I started not living outside the law. Settled down.

It isn't hard to get one.

If they live in pike county, they ain't walking to a store
 
2020-10-01 8:32:12 PM  

vudukungfu: flondrix: vudukungfu: Valid DL.
No voter impropriety.

Problem?

Not everyone drives?

Yeah. Except that is the first piece of id every mouth breathing hick in PA demands. Especially cops. If you are even just walking.
I'm sure those newyawkahs ubered on over to their second hovels.

I used to have a few DLs for a few states. Then I started not living outside the law. Settled down.

It isn't hard to get one.

If they live in pike county, they ain't walking to a store


True.

But this is a separate issue from whether they're eligible to vote. Looks like it's a $200 fine if they get pulled over and the cop is grouchy.
 
2020-10-01 8:32:41 PM  

dustman81: quatchi: Let me guess. RW shenanigans?

*click*

FTA: "The seemingly bureaucratic dispute has undeniable political undertones. Pike County voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump in 2016 and looks poised to do so again this year. But it has seen a surge in new arrivals since March-primarily New Yorkers like..."

Ah, there it is.

As long as you are not voting twice you should be allowed to vote at whatever residence you are living at.

Part of declaring residency is having a valid DL from the state you're declaring as your residence. The woman in the article did not. She was trying to vote in PA with a NY driver's license.

Go to the PennDOT office, get your NY DL converted to a PA DL, then come back and vote.


Does pa require a dl changeover after maintaining residence for a set time.
 
2020-10-01 8:34:01 PM  

Dr. DJ Duckhunt: Mentat: If it's not your primary home, then no, you don't get to vote there.

It seems in the article that many have changed their primary home status since Covid-19.


To be a resident in PA you had to have lived here for 183 days, that's a little over 6 months. Where your getting your mail, when you changed your license (supposed to be reported to the DMV by 10 days after you move) are the two biggest hurdles.
Maybe next time, if they follow the law.
 
2020-10-01 8:35:11 PM  

Il Douchey: "Flyover Country" is sick of seeing coastal liberals flee their unlivable hellhole cities that long term Democrat control has produced, only to vote to impose the same liberal policies in their new towns that turned their old towns into shiatholes in the first place.

/Stay in the mess that you voted for, or vote like the places you are escaping to.
//We don't care how you did it in New Jersey


I'd tell you to educate yourself on white flight and metropolitan policies which gutted central cities to benefit suburbs, but you are probably very well aware of all that. But since the documented history and current events work against your lame propaganda, you just tell others that it is "fake news."
 
2020-10-01 8:35:19 PM  

vudukungfu: flondrix: vudukungfu: Valid DL.
No voter impropriety.

Problem?

Not everyone drives?

Yeah. Except that is the first piece of id every mouth breathing hick in PA demands. Especially cops. If you are even just walking.
I'm sure those newyawkahs ubered on over to their second hovels.

I used to have a few DLs for a few states. Then I started not living outside the law. Settled down.

It isn't hard to get one.

If they live in pike county, they ain't walking to a store


So? I know a number of couples only one of whom has a drivers license.

And yes, it is always the first piece of ID asked for, but you then provide them alternate identification.

The idea of preventing you from exercising the most fundamental right in the country (every other right stems from the politicians who are elected) because they don't have a drivers license is despicable.
 
2020-10-01 8:35:21 PM  

lindalouwho: Dr. DJ Duckhunt: Mentat: If it's not your primary home, then no, you don't get to vote there.

It seems in the article that many have changed their primary home status since Covid-19.

To be a resident in PA you had to have lived here for 183 days, that's a little over 6 months. Where your getting your mail, when you changed your license (supposed to be reported to the DMV by 10 days after you move) are the two biggest hurdles.
Maybe next time, if they follow the law.


What law?

Be specific.
 
2020-10-01 8:35:45 PM  

Saiga410: dustman81: quatchi: Let me guess. RW shenanigans?

*click*

FTA: "The seemingly bureaucratic dispute has undeniable political undertones. Pike County voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump in 2016 and looks poised to do so again this year. But it has seen a surge in new arrivals since March-primarily New Yorkers like..."

Ah, there it is.

As long as you are not voting twice you should be allowed to vote at whatever residence you are living at.

Part of declaring residency is having a valid DL from the state you're declaring as your residence. The woman in the article did not. She was trying to vote in PA with a NY driver's license.

Go to the PennDOT office, get your NY DL converted to a PA DL, then come back and vote.

Does pa require a dl changeover after maintaining residence for a set time.


Not in order to vote.
 
2020-10-01 8:37:51 PM  
Moving out of NY was the best $20 in highway tolls I've ever spent.
 
2020-10-01 8:38:21 PM  

quatchi: Let me guess. RW shenanigans?

*click*

FTA: "The seemingly bureaucratic dispute has undeniable political undertones. Pike County voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump in 2016 and looks poised to do so again this year. But it has seen a surge in new arrivals since March-primarily New Yorkers like..."

Ah, there it is.

As long as you are not voting twice you should be allowed to vote at whatever residence you are living at.


Oh hell no, people could sabotage the local politicians and judges if they aren't residents. There are absentee ballots for them to vote in their primary resident/state.
This isn't 'Nam, there are rules.
 
2020-10-01 8:38:45 PM  
literally the state's elections website:
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and fark everyone trying to "b-b-but must have drivers license" bullshiat.
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2020-10-01 8:39:03 PM  

dywed88: Goimir: This stems from the years past practice of NYers registering to vote in Pike County and not actually living there.  Some would even register in both places.

Also, Pennsylvania law requires you to change your license within 10 days of moving.  PA car insurance is cheaper.

So while not illegal to register to vote while still holding onto your NY license, it's illegal to drive with it or use it to register a vehicle.

All of which is irrelevant if people who moved to PA are being denied the right to vote.


And if they haven't moved but on extended vacation whilst they can still work from home?
 
2020-10-01 8:39:45 PM  

K3rberos: Mentat: If it's not your primary home, then no, you don't get to vote there.

So then you also support election officials sending out false propaganda with a threat of imprisonment in order to dissuade people from rightfully registering to vote?

Or did you not bother to RTFA?


Every state has their own laws on what constitutes residency.

Google isn't broken, people.
 
2020-10-01 8:42:30 PM  

lindalouwho: quatchi: Let me guess. RW shenanigans?

*click*

FTA: "The seemingly bureaucratic dispute has undeniable political undertones. Pike County voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump in 2016 and looks poised to do so again this year. But it has seen a surge in new arrivals since March-primarily New Yorkers like..."

Ah, there it is.

As long as you are not voting twice you should be allowed to vote at whatever residence you are living at.

Oh hell no, people could sabotage the local politicians and judges if they aren't residents. There are absentee ballots for them to vote in their primary resident/state.
This isn't 'Nam, there are rules.


Yes, but none of that is required by PA.  See the photo in the post below yours.  Telling people you need things to vote when they do not is disenfranchisement.
 
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