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(The Nation)   When Trump bent over backwards to not condemn white nationalists, the FBI put out a warning over the threat of such groups, pointing out the election as a potential flashpoint   (thenation.com) divider line
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2020-10-01 12:44:32 PM  
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2020-10-01 12:46:32 PM  
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2020-10-01 3:13:26 PM  
How nice of the FBI to examine their paychecks and note the Statue of Liberty printed on them.
It's almost as if they remembered who they work for
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Almost.
 
2020-10-01 5:59:45 PM  
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2020-10-01 6:00:26 PM  

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"You see, the problem is that you can label anyone you disagree with a Nazi these days"

-- their response
 
2020-10-01 6:01:17 PM  

Sid Vicious' Corpse: [Fark user image 437x394]


And the proud boys are Trump's SA. I'm not even being hyperbolic, they're a freikorps just like the brownshirts and the Italian fascist blackshirts, We are marching closer and closer to the realization of fascism in america. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a march on washington by these terrorists after Biden wins, as well as assassination attempts.

/Maybe Twitter will finally delete his account after he doxxes a target to his fanatics.
 
2020-10-01 6:01:24 PM  
Actually, I find it a comforting FBI making it known that their on alert for white nationalist bullshait around the election.
 
2020-10-01 6:02:59 PM  
Obvious tag too busy buying supplies to barricade its house?

=Smidge=
 
2020-10-01 6:03:13 PM  
Not to put too fine a point on it, but the FBI is pretty much declaring Trump as a flashpoint for domestic terrorist activity.

Yes, the FBI, has declared Trump a domestic terrorist.
 
2020-10-01 6:03:45 PM  

LeftisRightisWrong: Sid Vicious' Corpse: [Fark user image 437x394]

And the proud boys are Trump's SA. I'm not even being hyperbolic, they're a freikorps just like the brownshirts and the Italian fascist blackshirts, We are marching closer and closer to the realization of fascism in america. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a march on washington by these terrorists after Biden wins, as well as assassination attempts.

/Maybe Twitter will finally delete his account after he doxxes a target to his fanatics.


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2020-10-01 6:03:55 PM  

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Lordy that dude is showing a lot of restraint.
 
2020-10-01 6:04:12 PM  
I trust the FBI far more than Trump.
The FBI Files Opening Intro
Youtube MGqxW_0c2kc
 
2020-10-01 6:05:39 PM  
And the FBI has been saying this shiat about right wing terrorist groups in America for 40 farking years.

But right wing politicians just keep on encouraging the terrorists.
 
2020-10-01 6:06:32 PM  
Traitors.  Just like the confederate losers they adore.
 
2020-10-01 6:06:51 PM  
Sid Vicious' Corpse:

WWII GIs were not anti-fa.
 
2020-10-01 6:07:58 PM  

g.fro: Sid Vicious' Corpse:

WWII GIs were not anti-fa.


I dunno, shooting fascists is pretty anti-fascist to me.
 
2020-10-01 6:08:43 PM  
For whom the warning is meant establishes whether or not this is scary. I may be naive in this, but I suspect the FBI isn't yet completely turned.
 
2020-10-01 6:09:02 PM  

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My wife's dad looking at a 20ft tall pile of shoes at Flossenburg. He then was a guard at the same camps but for captured SS after surrender who he bossed around in Yiddish.
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2020-10-01 6:09:30 PM  

HerptheDerp: Not to put too fine a point on it, but the FBI is pretty much declaring Trump as a flashpoint for domestic terrorist activity.

Yes, the FBI, has declared Trump a domestic terrorist.


So you are saying that the FBI is basically declaring Trump to be a flashpoint for domestic terrorism and is thus a domestic terrorist himself?

Cos yeah, I'd buy that.

He has already inspired lone wolf domestic terrorism resulting in death in Charlottesville and elsewhere.

His call to "stand back and stand by" for election night was a mass call to arms that is guaranteed to lead to violence and death.

This is not a drill.
 
2020-10-01 6:09:53 PM  

neongoats: And the FBI has been saying this shiat about right wing terrorist groups in America for 40 farking years.

But right wing politicians just keep on encouraging the terrorists.


Because they clearly share the same goals. The politicians were just more interested in getting more people to buy in.
 
2020-10-01 6:11:03 PM  

g.fro: Sid Vicious' Corpse:

WWII GIs were not anti-fa.


By what objective measure are you making that statement?

Seriously.
 
2020-10-01 6:12:17 PM  

neongoats: And the FBI has been saying this shiat about right wing terrorist groups in America for 40 farking years.

But right wing politicians just keep on encouraging the terrorists.


I'm not going to give the FBI too much love. They've been almost as soft on white supremacists as the cops and politicians have. Either out of agreement or cowardice, but it's not like they've been cracking some skulls either when they've had ample opportunity to do so.
 
2020-10-01 6:12:27 PM  

g.fro: Sid Vicious' Corpse:

WWII GIs were not anti-fa.


What were they then, oh great purveyor of history? Fascists?
 
2020-10-01 6:14:41 PM  
Trump is a domestic terrorist.
 
2020-10-01 6:17:05 PM  
Antifa originated as the abbreviation of Antifaschistische Aktion, the armed, para-military wing of the KPD. It was founded in 1932 as the successor to the KPD's earlier para-military group, the Roter Frontkämpferbund or, RFB, which existed from 1924 to 1929. Antifa's main job was protecting KPD events, marching to support their candidates and intimidate others, and perhaps most importantly, fight pitched street battles with the Nazi's armed para-militaries, Sturmabteilung, aka the SA, the brownshirts, or stormtroopers. When they weren't fighting Nazis, they were fighting the Socialdemocrats (SPD) and their loosely affiliated Eiserne Front. Obviously after the NSDAP came to power, the KPD, antifa, and all other political groups were banned, and many members wound up in concentration camps.

After WWII, antifa continued to be term in common usage in Europe for a variety of Left-wing youth groups. These ranged from simple gangs who liked to get in street fights with racist punks and hooligans, to actual terrorist organizations funded and controlled by Moscow. After the Red Summer of 1968, the USSR toned down the armed terrorism, although some groups like the Rote Armee Fraktion(RAF) aka the Baader-Meinhof Group, or the Brigate Rosse continued. Anti-fascist would continue on in Soviet parlance (for example in the official name of the Berlin Wall) but as glasnost became official policy, the term antifa became more and more associated with elements of the punk scene. It would occasionally be used to describe independent groups which considered themselves leftists dedicated to direct action, such as the Black Bloc, But was mostly passé. Until an actual fascist got elected President. All of a sudden the term "Antifa" gets thrown around, and when people who had never heard it before ask, "what does that mean?" they are told simply, "it means anti-fascist."  And so, not knowing the term's history, they start using it, perhaps even to refer to themselves. And when someone points out it's actual, historical meaning, they reject it as counter-propaganda.
 
2020-10-01 6:18:55 PM  

g.fro: Antifa originated as the abbreviation of Antifaschistische Aktion, the armed, para-military wing of the KPD. It was founded in 1932 as the successor to the KPD's earlier para-military group, the Roter Frontkämpferbund or, RFB, which existed from 1924 to 1929. Antifa's main job was protecting KPD events, marching to support their candidates and intimidate others, and perhaps most importantly, fight pitched street battles with the Nazi's armed para-militaries, Sturmabteilung, aka the SA, the brownshirts, or stormtroopers. When they weren't fighting Nazis, they were fighting the Socialdemocrats (SPD) and their loosely affiliated Eiserne Front. Obviously after the NSDAP came to power, the KPD, antifa, and all other political groups were banned, and many members wound up in concentration camps.

After WWII, antifa continued to be term in common usage in Europe for a variety of Left-wing youth groups. These ranged from simple gangs who liked to get in street fights with racist punks and hooligans, to actual terrorist organizations funded and controlled by Moscow. After the Red Summer of 1968, the USSR toned down the armed terrorism, although some groups like the Rote Armee Fraktion(RAF) aka the Baader-Meinhof Group, or the Brigate Rosse continued. Anti-fascist would continue on in Soviet parlance (for example in the official name of the Berlin Wall) but as glasnost became official policy, the term antifa became more and more associated with elements of the punk scene. It would occasionally be used to describe independent groups which considered themselves leftists dedicated to direct action, such as the Black Bloc, But was mostly passé. Until an actual fascist got elected President. All of a sudden the term "Antifa" gets thrown around, and when people who had never heard it before ask, "what does that mean?" they are told simply, "it means anti-fascist."  And so, not knowing the term's history, they start using it, perhaps even to refer to themselves. And when someone po ...


And what, pray tell, does 'Antifaschistische' translate to?
 
2020-10-01 6:19:12 PM  
Whatd be really spectacular would be if the FBI would round all of these white supremacist TERRORISTS up.

Considering that they have been watching multiple groups via social media and undercover agents, for the good of the country they could send them all to gitmo while they await trial(which has been done before yet with a darker shade of terrorist)
 
2020-10-01 6:21:12 PM  
I saw something earlier (or I thought I did) about a Senate declaration disavowing white supremacy failed.

Wish I could find that tweet again.
 
2020-10-01 6:22:26 PM  

LeftisRightisWrong: Sid Vicious' Corpse: [Fark user image 437x394]

And the proud boys are Trump's SA. I'm not even being hyperbolic, they're a freikorps just like the brownshirts and the Italian fascist blackshirts, We are marching closer and closer to the realization of fascism in america. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a march on washington by these terrorists after Biden wins, as well as assassination attempts.


That's why it's so funny that people keep talking about Putin killing off or 'burning' Trump once he's out of office.

Trump has a fanatically-loyal, well-armed insurgency group that hangs on his every word, already embedded across America and hanging on Trump's every word.

You bet you ass Putin would love to have their leader safely ensconced in a Barvikha dacha, tweeting out orders at Putin's behest.

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2020-10-01 6:22:56 PM  

g.fro: Antifa originated as the abbreviation of Antifaschistische Aktion, the armed, para-military wing of the KPD. It was founded in 1932 as the successor to the KPD's earlier para-military group, the Roter Frontkämpferbund or, RFB, which existed from 1924 to 1929. Antifa's main job was protecting KPD events, marching to support their candidates and intimidate others, and perhaps most importantly, fight pitched street battles with the Nazi's armed para-militaries, Sturmabteilung, aka the SA, the brownshirts, or stormtroopers. When they weren't fighting Nazis, they were fighting the Socialdemocrats (SPD) and their loosely affiliated Eiserne Front. Obviously after the NSDAP came to power, the KPD, antifa, and all other political groups were banned, and many members wound up in concentration camps.

After WWII, antifa continued to be term in common usage in Europe for a variety of Left-wing youth groups. These ranged from simple gangs who liked to get in street fights with racist punks and hooligans, to actual terrorist organizations funded and controlled by Moscow. After the Red Summer of 1968, the USSR toned down the armed terrorism, although some groups like the Rote Armee Fraktion(RAF) aka the Baader-Meinhof Group, or the Brigate Rosse continued. Anti-fascist would continue on in Soviet parlance (for example in the official name of the Berlin Wall) but as glasnost became official policy, the term antifa became more and more associated with elements of the punk scene. It would occasionally be used to describe independent groups which considered themselves leftists dedicated to direct action, such as the Black Bloc, But was mostly passé. Until an actual fascist got elected President. All of a sudden the term "Antifa" gets thrown around, and when people who had never heard it before ask, "what does that mean?" they are told simply, "it means anti-fascist."  And so, not knowing the term's history, they start using it, perhaps even to refer to themselves. And when someone po ...


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2020-10-01 6:23:58 PM  

Purple_Urkle: I trust the FBI far more than Trump.
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God that intro is like the brain impaired child of Unsolved Mysteries and X Files
 
2020-10-01 6:25:19 PM  

Ragin' Asian: For whom the warning is meant establishes whether or not this is scary. I may be naive in this, but I suspect the FBI isn't yet completely turned.


fair enough.  parts of the body itself might be ok, but the head (barr) is like a fish head where the eyes have become cloudy.

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2020-10-01 6:27:01 PM  

g.fro: Antifa originated as the abbreviation of Antifaschistische Aktion, the armed, para-military wing of the KPD. It was founded in 1932 as the successor to the KPD's earlier para-military group, the Roter Frontkämpferbund or, RFB, which existed from 1924 to 1929. Antifa's main job was protecting KPD events, marching to support their candidates and intimidate others, and perhaps most importantly, fight pitched street battles with the Nazi's armed para-militaries, Sturmabteilung, aka the SA, the brownshirts, or stormtroopers. When they weren't fighting Nazis, they were fighting the Socialdemocrats (SPD) and their loosely affiliated Eiserne Front. Obviously after the NSDAP came to power, the KPD, antifa, and all other political groups were banned, and many members wound up in concentration camps.

After WWII, antifa continued to be term in common usage in Europe for a variety of Left-wing youth groups. These ranged from simple gangs who liked to get in street fights with racist punks and hooligans, to actual terrorist organizations funded and controlled by Moscow. After the Red Summer of 1968, the USSR toned down the armed terrorism, although some groups like the Rote Armee Fraktion(RAF) aka the Baader-Meinhof Group, or the Brigate Rosse continued. Anti-fascist would continue on in Soviet parlance (for example in the official name of the Berlin Wall) but as glasnost became official policy, the term antifa became more and more associated with elements of the punk scene. It would occasionally be used to describe independent groups which considered themselves leftists dedicated to direct action, such as the Black Bloc, But was mostly passé. Until an actual fascist got elected President. All of a sudden the term "Antifa" gets thrown around, and when people who had never heard it before ask, "what does that mean?" they are told simply, "it means anti-fascist."  And so, not knowing the term's history, they start using it, perhaps even to refer to themselves. And when someone po ...


It's almost like a generic phrase could encompass two similar but entirely different things. But keep farking that hähnchen
 
2020-10-01 6:30:50 PM  
It really seems like the more violent the left gets, the more they say white nationalists are a threat. The modern left sure does love it some chaos and mayhem, but it's terribly ashamed to admit it ... it's a whole new kind of closet.
 
2020-10-01 6:31:19 PM  

LordJiro: ...

And what, pray tell, does 'Antifaschistische' translate to?


The point which you are so deliberately missing, is that "antifa" referred to a specific group. Especially at that time.
 
2020-10-01 6:31:26 PM  
I'm more worried about Coronavirus than I am PB.
 
2020-10-01 6:31:47 PM  

browneye: Actually, I find it a comforting FBI making it known that their on alert for white nationalist bullshait around the election.


When I heard Trump's horseshiat comment the first thing I thought of was "Oh man there's probably a whole shiatload of FBI agents that are cursing at the TV right farking now"
 
2020-10-01 6:32:14 PM  

DrD'isInfotainment: ...

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What? You think I just made all that up?
 
2020-10-01 6:33:32 PM  

g.fro: Sid Vicious' Corpse:

WWII GIs were not anti-fa.


The fark they weren't
 
2020-10-01 6:33:36 PM  

Todd300: ...
It's almost like a generic phrase could encompass two similar but entirely different things. But keep farking that hähnchen


It's almost like it was never a generic phrase at all.
 
2020-10-01 6:35:49 PM  
I see Trump's future.  I see him putting a gun to his own head and barrels of gasoline outside.
 
2020-10-01 6:36:50 PM  

g.fro: Antifa originated as the abbreviation of Antifaschistische Aktion, the armed, para-military wing of the KPD. It was founded in 1932 as the successor to the KPD's earlier para-military group, the Roter Frontkämpferbund or, RFB, which existed from 1924 to 1929. Antifa's main job was protecting KPD events, marching to support their candidates and intimidate others, and perhaps most importantly, fight pitched street battles with the Nazi's armed para-militaries, Sturmabteilung, aka the SA, the brownshirts, or stormtroopers. When they weren't fighting Nazis, they were fighting the Socialdemocrats (SPD) and their loosely affiliated Eiserne Front. Obviously after the NSDAP came to power, the KPD, antifa, and all other political groups were banned, and many members wound up in concentration camps.

After WWII, antifa continued to be term in common usage in Europe for a variety of Left-wing youth groups. These ranged from simple gangs who liked to get in street fights with racist punks and hooligans, to actual terrorist organizations funded and controlled by Moscow. After the Red Summer of 1968, the USSR toned down the armed terrorism, although some groups like the Rote Armee Fraktion(RAF) aka the Baader-Meinhof Group, or the Brigate Rosse continued. Anti-fascist would continue on in Soviet parlance (for example in the official name of the Berlin Wall) but as glasnost became official policy, the term antifa became more and more associated with elements of the punk scene. It would occasionally be used to describe independent groups which considered themselves leftists dedicated to direct action, such as the Black Bloc, But was mostly passé. Until an actual fascist got elected President. All of a sudden the term "Antifa" gets thrown around, and when people who had never heard it before ask, "what does that mean?" they are told simply, "it means anti-fascist."  And so, not knowing the term's history, they start using it, perhaps even to refer to themselves. And when someone po ...


You actually raise a pretty good point, even though it seems you copied most of it from the wikipedia page. If I'm going to compare the modern militia groupss to the 1930s german militias (and Italian, for that matter), we should get our definition straight. I would argue that the definition of antifa has evolved or changed from a freikorps for a certain political party to a much more generalized resistance and opposition to rightwing groups, since there is no central organization to the modern antifa movement.
 
2020-10-01 6:37:04 PM  

LeftisRightisWrong: Sid Vicious' Corpse: [Fark user image 437x394]

And the proud boys are Trump's SA. I'm not even being hyperbolic, they're a freikorps just like the brownshirts and the Italian fascist blackshirts, We are marching closer and closer to the realization of fascism in america. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a march on washington by these terrorists after Biden wins, as well as assassination attempts.

/Maybe Twitter will finally delete his account after he doxxes a target to his fanatics.


I don't think the SA was quite as closeted as the Mama's Boys.
 
2020-10-01 6:37:15 PM  
g.fro: Until an actual fascist got elected President.

Aw, g.fro, you had me transfixed until you got to here. What ... in the holy hell ... makes you ASSERT that Trump is a fascist? I'm genuinely curious why you believe this. I suspect it's blind, group-think, hate-fueled hysteria stemming from a lack of competitive marketable skills, but you probably see it a different way ... so what the hell, g.fro?
 
2020-10-01 6:37:30 PM  

NephilimNexus: I see Trump's future.  I see him putting a gun to his own head and barrels of gasoline outside.


You forgot to make it a flare gun and add pay-per-view.
 
2020-10-01 6:39:07 PM  

LordJiro: And what, pray tell, does 'Antifaschistische' translate to?


A light course of crudites or appetizers served just before the fascism.
 
2020-10-01 6:44:58 PM  

imbrial: g.fro: Sid Vicious' Corpse:

WWII GIs were not anti-fa.

The fark they weren't


You think the were fighting for the Communist Party of Germany?
 
2020-10-01 6:45:35 PM  
I have it on good authority that Trump has been the most outspoken and hardest on...those kinds things, whatever it is you meant.  More so than any other president in the history of the world.  And while we're on the topic, whatever that happens to be, since it's kind of nebulous, let me tell you about something that isn't nebulous and that's how bad Antifa and BLM really are.  They are the real terrorists here!  Proud...what are they...Boys?  I mean, never really even heard of them before.  They sound nice though.  *wink*
 
2020-10-01 6:48:00 PM  

LeftisRightisWrong: ...

You actually raise a pretty good point, even though it seems you copied most of it from the wikipedia page. If I'm going to compare the modern militia groupss to the 1930s german militias (and Italian, for that matter), we should get our definition straight. I would argue that the definition of antifa has evolved or changed from a freikorps for a certain political party to a much more generalized resistance and opposition to rightwing groups, since there is no central organization to the modern antifa movement.


Which is a valid argument to make. But that doesn't change the fact that at that time, the word had not yet become genericized and referred to a specific group which most GIs would not have agreed with.
 
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