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2020-10-01 9:34:52 AM  
Pretty sure only people that say "EESpaneesh" understand it.

In America, they keep inventing racial terms.


Or as Richard Pryor said:
"Well, I took a trip to Africa - which, by the way, is where I plan to live some day. I went to Kenya, and while I was there something inside of me said, "Look around you, Richard. What do you see? I saw people. African people. I saw people from other countries, too, and they were all kinds of colors, but I didn't see any 'ni@@ers.' I didn't see any there because There are no 'ni@@ers' in Africa."

Think about it.

America makes up stupid names for people because, we can't just all be on the same team now, can we?

Idiots.

Learn to speak a language correctly.
There are plenty of words to learn and learn how to properly pronounce with out having to make it more confusing.

Unless you've only been in this country "One Months" as my Greek Instructor would say.
 
2020-10-01 9:36:40 AM  
I've asked both a Puerto Rican and Mexican friend (both in the 25-40 age group) pretty directly and they both said basically the same thing: It's a term for teenagers and/or woke university professors.

I'm just a lowly Gringx (sorry, Norteamericanx) but it rubs me the wrong way on basic grammar for Romance languages.

La Gente Latina
El Pueblo Latino
etc
 
2020-10-01 9:48:25 AM  
I never got "latinx". I only ever heard / said Latino / Latina and that was normal.
 
2020-10-01 10:08:29 AM  
The only people who use the term 'Latinx', are those to which the term doesn't apply.
 
2020-10-01 10:08:57 AM  

vudukungfu: Think about it.


Hmm.  I took Pryor's comment to mean something different.
 
2020-10-01 10:10:08 AM  

chozo13: The only people who use the term 'Latinx', are those to which the term doesn't apply.


Well, modifying adjectives with "-x" makes no sense in Spanish.

In fact, the letter "X" is pretty rare in Spanish, with the exception of place names like Mexico or Oaxaca.
 
2020-10-01 10:10:54 AM  
Latin@ used to be a thing a decade ago, which would sound stupid said out loud, but written is kind of clever (if you think of an a being inside of an o) to encompass both genders.
 
2020-10-01 10:11:53 AM  
Isn't it for Latin mixed raced people, like Mom's from Mexico but Dad's from Japan?

Or does it include all the other genders as well?

If it's the latter, it seems easier than adding another few letters after lgbtq since "x" would include us all?
 
2020-10-01 10:12:23 AM  

JAGChem82: Latin@ used to be a thing a decade ago, which would sound stupid said out loud, but written is kind of clever (if you think of an a being inside of an o) to encompass both genders.


Speaking of which, how do you pronounce Latinx?  For all the times I've seen the term in print, I honestly don't know the answer.
 
2020-10-01 10:13:06 AM  

JAGChem82: Latin@


what a Pittsburgher says when you don't show up on time.
You're Late'n'at
 
2020-10-01 10:13:48 AM  

NikolaiFarkoff: I've asked both a Puerto Rican and Mexican friend (both in the 25-40 age group) pretty directly and they both said basically the same thing: It's a term for teenagers and/or woke university professors.

I'm just a lowly Gringx (sorry, Norteamericanx) but it rubs me the wrong way on basic grammar for Romance languages.

La Gente Latina
El Pueblo Latino
etc


Just wait until you hear about "todes", "chiques" or "nosotres"...
 
2020-10-01 10:14:15 AM  

The Third Man: JAGChem82: Latin@ used to be a thing a decade ago, which would sound stupid said out loud, but written is kind of clever (if you think of an a being inside of an o) to encompass both genders.

Speaking of which, how do you pronounce Latinx?  For all the times I've seen the term in print, I honestly don't know the answer.


"They, them, Xey"
 
2020-10-01 10:15:18 AM  
"LatinX" is just the newest way for woke white people to virtue signal on Twitter.
 
2020-10-01 10:15:34 AM  

The Third Man: JAGChem82: Latin@ used to be a thing a decade ago, which would sound stupid said out loud, but written is kind of clever (if you think of an a being inside of an o) to encompass both genders.

Speaking of which, how do you pronounce Latinx?  For all the times I've seen the term in print, I honestly don't know the answer.


I say "la tinks"
 
2020-10-01 10:15:54 AM  

jake_lex: chozo13: The only people who use the term 'Latinx', are those to which the term doesn't apply.

Well, modifying adjectives with "-x" makes no sense in Spanish.

In fact, the letter "X" is pretty rare in Spanish, with the exception of place names like Mexico or Oaxaca.


Even then, the "X" sounds more like an "H": Mexico is pronounced "Meh - hi - co", Oaxaca is pronounced "Wah - ha - ca", and Texas is "Tay - has". Latinx would sound like "La - tin - h" if spoken properly.
 
2020-10-01 10:16:03 AM  

Salmon: Isn't it for Latin mixed raced people, like Mom's from Mexico but Dad's from Japan?

Or does it include all the other genders as well?

If it's the latter, it seems easier than adding another few letters after lgbtq since "x" would include us all?


https://www.vox.com/2015/8/19/9173457​/​hispanic-latino-comic
 
2020-10-01 10:18:40 AM  

vudukungfu: Pretty sure only people that say "EESpaneesh" understand it.

In America, they keep inventing racial terms.


Or as Richard Pryor said:
"Well, I took a trip to Africa - which, by the way, is where I plan to live some day. I went to Kenya, and while I was there something inside of me said, "Look around you, Richard. What do you see? I saw people. African people. I saw people from other countries, too, and they were all kinds of colors, but I didn't see any 'ni@@ers.' I didn't see any there because There are no 'ni@@ers' in Africa."

Think about it.

America makes up stupid names for people because, we can't just all be on the same team now, can we?


I don't think you got the joke.
 
2020-10-01 10:18:49 AM  
It's an unwieldy term because the is still (largely) gendered; Even if "Latinx" were to catch on, Spanish speakers would still be saying camarero/camarera, profesor/profesora, etc.

I'll go with whatever catches on and read the room, of course, but as far as I can tell it's not really a thing people typically say. Not sure about prevalence outside the US.
 
2020-10-01 10:19:52 AM  
LatinX sounds like a new style of club music.  Or a club itself.  Or some kind of drug used in a club.   Pitbull would know, let's ask him.
 
2020-10-01 10:20:08 AM  

NikolaiFarkoff: I've asked both a Puerto Rican and Mexican friend (both in the 25-40 age group) pretty directly and they both said basically the same thing: It's a term for teenagers and/or woke university professors.

I'm just a lowly Gringx (sorry, Norteamericanx) but it rubs me the wrong way on basic grammar for Romance languages.

La Gente Latina
El Pueblo Latino
etc


That's actually kind of the point.  It's an attempt by liberal "woke" LGBTQ people who believe in gender fluidity and the like to take gender out of the word.  They are intentionally breaking Spanish and it's gender specific loan words in English because they don't like gender specific anything.
 
2020-10-01 10:20:38 AM  
Quiet down Latin community, the uppity white warriors of wokeness know what's best for you.
 
2020-10-01 10:21:28 AM  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKUQ0​K​i2aR4&t=370s

I love his laugh at the todEs question.

Sorry for those who cant speak spanish, couldnt find a translated version.
 
2020-10-01 10:22:32 AM  
X's were used on the foreheads concentration camp inmates in WW2 to mark those who would be executed. They just never knew when it would happen.

X marks the spot. A target.
X also means prior. (Ex X wife. Ex X boyfriend) Something you're finished with
X is used to cross something out.
 
2020-10-01 10:23:13 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: vudukungfu: Pretty sure only people that say "EESpaneesh" understand it.

In America, they keep inventing racial terms.


Or as Richard Pryor said:
"Well, I took a trip to Africa - which, by the way, is where I plan to live some day. I went to Kenya, and while I was there something inside of me said, "Look around you, Richard. What do you see? I saw people. African people. I saw people from other countries, too, and they were all kinds of colors, but I didn't see any 'ni@@ers.' I didn't see any there because There are no 'ni@@ers' in Africa."

Think about it.

America makes up stupid names for people because, we can't just all be on the same team now, can we?

I don't think you got the joke.


[dances on tripmines]

IIRC, Pyror had previously mentioned how he separated black people from, um, the word, and how he, even as a black person, was afraid of the second group, and that group wasn't present in Africa.
 
2020-10-01 10:24:45 AM  

NikolaiFarkoff: I'm just a lowly Gringx


Honkex? Crackex? Hillbillex? Rednex? (Wait, I think that one's a band.)
 
2020-10-01 10:25:06 AM  
It's farking stupid. Russian has even more genderification, yet you don't hear Pussy Riot talking about how evil the Russian language is.

Outside of America, I've never heard a single "OMG SPANISH IS SEXIST" from anyone.

My good friend is in Spain and is as Libby lib as you can be, and he's never heard of such things there.

It's farking stupid.
 
2020-10-01 10:25:35 AM  

Salmon: Isn't it for Latin mixed raced people, like Mom's from Mexico but Dad's from Japan?

Or does it include all the other genders as well?

If it's the latter, it seems easier than adding another few letters after lgbtq since "x" would include us all?


The root of the issue is not to whom the adjective applies, It's because the English language is not used to dealing with gendered nouns.

Most other languages that have gendered nouns will have grammar rules to deal with them (which is usually masculine wins).

Of course, this does not mean that people who use latinx may have motives for doing so that go further than trying to have a gendered adjective agree with a neutral noun.
 
2020-10-01 10:25:51 AM  
Latinx gives people the freedom to identify as they wish, "the "x" in Latinx is a placeholder for whatever you want it to mean,"

I want it to mean fleek
 
2020-10-01 10:26:20 AM  

Ecobuckeye: The Third Man: JAGChem82:

I say "la tinks"


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2020-10-01 10:26:26 AM  
Also, is it pronounced:

Latinsh or Latin-"ex"
 
2020-10-01 10:26:29 AM  

NikolaiFarkoff: I've asked both a Puerto Rican and Mexican friend (both in the 25-40 age group) pretty directly and they both said basically the same thing: It's a term for teenagers and/or woke university professors.

I'm just a lowly Gringx (sorry, Norteamericanx) but it rubs me the wrong way on basic grammar for Romance languages.

La Gente Latina
El Pueblo Latino
etc


Can confirm, Mexican here. Never heard it used in person, mainly just memes.

We tend to laugh at each other, we tend to poke fun at the worst subjects imaginable - its kind of what we do all the time and i couldnt begin to imagine how the regular folks would react to someone using the Xs in real life.

At a minimum you would get an eye roll (escucha a esta pendeja y sus chingaderas...) or a direct approach (callate el hocico no seas mamonnnnnnn)

We are starting to see woke teenagers and adults but mostly in schools and companies where they're pushing the diversity and inclusion agenda (mostly for LGBT issues but nothing on class issues which are admittedly a bigger problem in Mexico than the former)
 
2020-10-01 10:28:43 AM  

The Googles Do Nothing: LatinX sounds like a new style of club music.  Or a club itself.  Or some kind of drug used in a club.   Pitbull would know, let's ask him.


Latin X is the name of my Lucha libre wrestling persona.
 
2020-10-01 10:30:09 AM  
Seeing the word "Latinx" reminds me of those old baseball cards where they call Roberto Clemente "Bob".  It betrays a cultural ignorance that simply should not exist in the internet age.
 
2020-10-01 10:30:37 AM  

The Third Man: JAGChem82: Latin@ used to be a thing a decade ago, which would sound stupid said out loud, but written is kind of clever (if you think of an a being inside of an o) to encompass both genders.

Speaking of which, how do you pronounce Latinx?  For all the times I've seen the term in print, I honestly don't know the answer.


La-teen-ex
 
2020-10-01 10:30:56 AM  
Once clicked on a link for Latin XXX. Not bad.
 
2020-10-01 10:31:37 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: NikolaiFarkoff: I'm just a lowly Gringx

Honkex? Crackex? Hillbillex? Rednex? (Wait, I think that one's a band.)


Caspex is either some kind of construction adhesive or topical itch treatment.
 
2020-10-01 10:31:42 AM  
People from Spanish-speaking countries don't know what "Latinx" means, or if it's actually racist

That is because its a term only non-Spanish speaking people use, and yes, its inherently racist.
 
2020-10-01 10:31:50 AM  
¿Están enojados, hermanos?
 
2020-10-01 10:33:49 AM  

The Third Man: Speaking of which, how do you pronounce Latinx?


Its pronounced "paternalism"
 
2020-10-01 10:34:34 AM  
I just can't get behind the Latinx thing myself. Only a very, very small minority of the students at the school I work at (Title 1, predominantly Spanish speaking) use Latinx. Most kids don't give a rat's ass about changing the structure of speech. They are too busy trying to study, get accepted by decent schools, get laid, and play video games.
 
2020-10-01 10:34:41 AM  

Dryad: People from Spanish-speaking countries don't know what "Latinx" means, or if it's actually racist

That is because its a term only non-Spanish speaking people use, and yes, its inherently racist.


The only person I have ever heard say the word in person was a white Hispanic woman of college age who grew up in a bilingual household in the United States.
 
2020-10-01 10:35:27 AM  

Salmon: Isn't it for Latin mixed raced people, like Mom's from Mexico but Dad's from Japan?

Or does it include all the other genders as well?

If it's the latter, it seems easier than adding another few letters after lgbtq since "x" would include us all?


You obliquely included most straightforward word choice in your comment. If there are one or more people, and it would be useful to refer to them as Latino or Latina, but you do not want to invoke gender, then why not use the word "Latin"?

If you need to distinguish from dead Romans, then "Latin-American".
 
2020-10-01 10:36:09 AM  

Geotpf: HotWingConspiracy: vudukungfu: Pretty sure only people that say "EESpaneesh" understand it.

In America, they keep inventing racial terms.


Or as Richard Pryor said:
"Well, I took a trip to Africa - which, by the way, is where I plan to live some day. I went to Kenya, and while I was there something inside of me said, "Look around you, Richard. What do you see? I saw people. African people. I saw people from other countries, too, and they were all kinds of colors, but I didn't see any 'ni@@ers.' I didn't see any there because There are no 'ni@@ers' in Africa."

Think about it.

America makes up stupid names for people because, we can't just all be on the same team now, can we?

I don't think you got the joke.

[dances on tripmines]

IIRC, Pyror had previously mentioned how he separated black people from, um, the word, and how he, even as a black person, was afraid of the second group, and that group wasn't present in Africa.


??????
That was a Chris Rock bit.
WTF?
 
2020-10-01 10:38:22 AM  

ColonelCathcart: It's farking stupid. Russian has even more genderification, yet you don't hear Pussy Riot talking about how evil the Russian language is.

Outside of America, I've never heard a single "OMG SPANISH IS SEXIST" from anyone.

My good friend is in Spain and is as Libby lib as you can be, and he's never heard of such things there.

It's farking stupid.


/
Nevermind, I don't get why conquered people keep using Spanish after Spain leaves them.
//
Or they kick Spain F--K  out.
///
F++k Spain. And fark Salt.
 
2020-10-01 10:38:32 AM  
My dyslexia make me see spandex when I see it, which is not helpful.
 
2020-10-01 10:38:41 AM  
It's as if a group of people came together to solve a non-existent problem and somehow managed to create a newer, dumber problem.

This unquestionably was something that originated from someone who was a cross between a Becca and a Reba.  A Rebabecca, if you will.
 
2020-10-01 10:39:10 AM  
Oh no! A subculture that has historically experienced significant discrimination has developed their own slang? We must ridicule them!

Or, you know... you could just accept that Latinx is a term made and used by queer people of Latin American heritage in English-speaking spaces, and if that (honestly very specific overlap) doesn't describe you then the term "Latinx" probably doesn't describe you, either.
 
2020-10-01 10:40:07 AM  
Malcolm LatinX

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2020-10-01 10:40:38 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: NikolaiFarkoff: I'm just a lowly Gringx

Honkex? Crackex? Hillbillex? Rednex? (Wait, I think that one's a band.)


Kleenex
 
2020-10-01 10:40:40 AM  

waxbeans: Geotpf: HotWingConspiracy: vudukungfu: Pretty sure only people that say "EESpaneesh" understand it.

In America, they keep inventing racial terms.


Or as Richard Pryor said:
"Well, I took a trip to Africa - which, by the way, is where I plan to live some day. I went to Kenya, and while I was there something inside of me said, "Look around you, Richard. What do you see? I saw people. African people. I saw people from other countries, too, and they were all kinds of colors, but I didn't see any 'ni@@ers.' I didn't see any there because There are no 'ni@@ers' in Africa."

Think about it.

America makes up stupid names for people because, we can't just all be on the same team now, can we?

I don't think you got the joke.

[dances on tripmines]

IIRC, Pyror had previously mentioned how he separated black people from, um, the word, and how he, even as a black person, was afraid of the second group, and that group wasn't present in Africa.

??????
That was a Chris Rock bit.
WTF?


Ugh, if I'm getting them confused.
 
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