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(Guardian)   Timothy Ray Brown, the first person to be cured of HIV, dies of cancer at age 54. Fark HIV and fark cancer   (theguardian.com) divider line
    More: Sad, Immune system, AIDS, HIV, CCR5, Lymphoma, Blood, Cancer, Timothy Ray Brown  
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2020-10-01 1:16:25 AM  
The Berlin Patient made history, it is sad that his life was cut short by cancer. Thanks to him for helping advance science.
 
2020-10-01 1:18:31 AM  
I hope there is no correlation.
 
2020-10-01 2:28:03 AM  

sithon: I hope there is no correlation.


There's definitely correlation.  Let's hope there's no causation.
 
2020-10-01 2:42:39 AM  
When your number flashes up on the big board, you're going

/One way or another
 
2020-10-01 2:44:55 AM  
RIP Tom Hanks
 
2020-10-01 3:49:20 AM  

Chariset: sithon: I hope there is no correlation.

There's definitely correlation.  Let's hope there's no causation.


The best kind of correct.
 
2020-10-01 8:02:33 AM  
You keep guarding against the left jab, and pow, the right hook comes out of nowhere.
 
2020-10-01 8:37:16 AM  

Chariset: sithon: I hope there is no correlation.

There's definitely correlation.  Let's hope there's no causation.


I gave you both smarts.  It was a good thought, even if the terminology was off.
 
2020-10-01 8:37:52 AM  
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2020-10-01 8:38:05 AM  
Did they use lots of cash to cure HIV?
 
2020-10-01 8:45:54 AM  
Considering how it spreads, maybe "Fark HIV" isn't the most appropriate phrasing in this instance.
 
2020-10-01 8:48:32 AM  
Medical science just postpones the inevitable and its tinkering with our immune system (which they barely understand) can have unintended consequences.

Live responsibly and don't expect medical science to save you...
 
2020-10-01 8:48:42 AM  
I actually didnt know they cured HIV in someone.  I thought they had been able to suppress it to nearly undetectable levels but not officially cured it. Maybe I should RTFA.
 
2020-10-01 8:54:49 AM  

Driedsponge: Considering how it spreads, maybe "Fark HIV" isn't the most appropriate phrasing in this instance.



Maybe I'm the only one, but the whole 'Fark [insert disease]' thing rubs me the wrong way.

I find that the needless vulgarity only trivializes a tragedy.

It's not edgy.  It's just dumb.

YMMV
 
2020-10-01 8:54:58 AM  

sithon: I hope there is no correlation.


There actually is in some way. He received the bone marrow and stem cell transplants to cure his Leukemia, after which they noticed that his HIV count was nonexistant. Thus they realized that they had basically cured his Aids as a side effect due to the unique mutation in the stem cells.
Of course the cancer apparently then decided to return and fark everything up, so fark cancer.
 
2020-10-01 8:57:29 AM  
Fark HIV, and Fark cancer?!? Oddly appropriate renamings of the politics tab and it's residents, but I'll allow it.
 
2020-10-01 9:06:32 AM  

KWess: Driedsponge: Considering how it spreads, maybe "Fark HIV" isn't the most appropriate phrasing in this instance.


Maybe I'm the only one, but the whole 'Fark [insert disease]' thing rubs me the wrong way.

I find that the needless vulgarity only trivializes a tragedy.

It's not edgy.  It's just dumb.

YMMV


I find it about as useful as tots and pears.  It doesn't necessarily trivialize the disease, people just need some general way to lash out at something that's affected them personal, that they can't really control.

The goal is always to do something actually useful as well as making the generic angry/empathetic statement.

I used to share stories of my mother's battle with brain cancer, but I stopped because it was so long ago that it's a dark ages of the medical world situation that's not really pertinent these days.  Other people/other situations might still be too close to the timeframe terribleness to want to share long detailed thoughtful wishes.  I just accept these phrases as a "yeah, we've all been there, and it's horrible."  If something is worthy of vulgarity, it's cancer.  I don't think it's meant to be edgy.
 
2020-10-01 9:07:31 AM  
I feel bad for his friends and family.  I am sure that he went throught all kinds of hell to get where he was and then to lose him from cancer.  So sad.  I lost a good friend to HiV and a sister to cancer.  I really hope I will live long enough to see something close to a cure for cancer before I die.  Probably not, as I am 60, but I can still dream.
 
2020-10-01 10:18:11 AM  
It's like meeting the man of your dreams...and his beautiful wife
 
2020-10-01 10:40:40 AM  

Bslim: It's like meeting the man of your dreams...and his beautiful wife


Go on...
 
2020-10-01 10:59:37 AM  

kdawg7736: Did they use lots of cash to cure HIV?


Dunno. You might want to ask Magic.
 
2020-10-01 11:02:16 AM  

dwrash: Medical science just postpones the inevitable and its tinkering with our immune system (which they barely understand) can have unintended consequences.

Live responsibly and don't expect medical science to save you...


Remember that everyone. If you get diagnosed with a disease that at the time is new and not understood, it was your fault for not living responsibly.
 
2020-10-01 11:03:08 AM  
There is no cure for HIV. There are drugs you take to make the "viral load" essentially undetectable, but no virus-caused disease is "cured." He was "functionally" cured, not literally cured. Functionally cured is a good thing, but it's not the same as "all virus completely gone."

That's why vaccines are important. To keep you from getting a disease in the first place.
 
2020-10-01 11:35:06 AM  

dwrash: Medical science just postpones the inevitable and its tinkering with our immune system (which they barely understand) can have unintended consequences.

Live responsibly and don't expect medical science to save you...


Another sanctimonious homily from an envious prude who can't get laid.
 
2020-10-01 11:54:34 AM  
So HIV cure causes cancer?
 
2020-10-01 12:19:40 PM  

dwrash: Medical science just postpones the inevitable and its tinkering with our immune system (which they barely understand) can have unintended consequences.

Live responsibly and don't expect medical science to save you...


Medical science has saved me just fine, so far. While we will all wind up dying anyway, I am quite pleased to still be alive right now.
 
2020-10-01 12:57:57 PM  

lizaardvark: dwrash: Medical science just postpones the inevitable and its tinkering with our immune system (which they barely understand) can have unintended consequences.

Live responsibly and don't expect medical science to save you...

Medical science has saved me just fine, so far. While we will all wind up dying anyway, I am quite pleased to still be alive right now.


Just remember you are on borrowed time... there are no guarantees.
 
2020-10-01 5:25:24 PM  
Life expectancy post bone marrow transplant is in the ten year range.

The chemo that kills your marrow also causes cancer.
If someone is considering a marrow transplant 10 years is generally a win.
 
2020-10-01 9:06:30 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: There is no cure for HIV. There are drugs you take to make the "viral load" essentially undetectable, but no virus-caused disease is "cured." He was "functionally" cured, not literally cured. Functionally cured is a good thing, but it's not the same as "all virus completely gone."

That's why vaccines are important. To keep you from getting a disease in the first place.


This was a special case.  The radiation and chemo killed his entire immune system before the bone marrow transplant, the HIV was completely gone and there was not a single infected cell left to create more of the virus. Even at "undetectable" levels doctors can still find it in the bone marrow and other places they just don't do the painfull and mostly unnecessary test in this case they preformed those checks as part of the standard post bone marrow transplant process.
 
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