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(Phys Org2)   As the world bangs its head on figuring out how to eliminate C02, the solution is so metal \m/   (phys.org) divider line
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2020-09-29 1:38:29 PM  
I support green progress. But I've never had any doubt we could science our way out of it if we had to.

Neat concept.
 
2020-09-29 1:51:49 PM  
Aluminum is not the best thing to put in the air.

That's all I'm going to say about that.
 
2020-09-29 2:02:44 PM  

aneki: I support green progress. But I've never had any doubt we could science our way out of it if we had to.

Neat concept.


'Light' on details, though.
 
2020-09-29 2:06:11 PM  
C Zero Two?
 
2020-09-29 2:14:00 PM  

aneki: I support green progress. But I've never had any doubt we could science our way out of it if we had to.

Neat concept.


I'm a combo optimist/pessimist in terms of global warming.

I think it will happen and there's not much that can be done to stop it on a practical level.  However, I think the negative effects are somewhat overstated and humans will adapt to such fairly easily.
 
2020-09-29 2:19:20 PM  
"I'm made of metallllllllll"

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2020-09-29 2:47:33 PM  

tuxq: Aluminum is not the best thing to put in the air.

That's all I'm going to say about that.


Better than what I put in the air. Especially in a car with the windows rolled up. And I have the window locks on.
 
2020-09-29 2:51:15 PM  
Stop cutting trees, plant more trees, stop burning hydrocarbons.
 
2020-09-29 3:05:15 PM  

aneki: I support green progress. But I've never had any doubt we could science our way out of it if we had to.

Neat concept.


And all we had to do was use electricity to smelt more aluminum so we could make fake apple flavoring.
Now go buy more sour gummies and save the environment!
 
2020-09-29 3:08:09 PM  

tuxq: Aluminum is not the best thing to put in the air.

That's all I'm going to say about that.


This isn't something you would put in the air. It's a way of processing CO2 which has been extracted from the atmosphere or captured from some other process.

Also the article fails. "What if we used this excess CO2 as a raw material to produce things we need-similar to how plants use it to produce oxygen". Plants use CO2 as a raw material to produce sugar, and the oxygen comes from splitting water.
 
2020-09-29 3:49:50 PM  
so lets make complex carbon molecules from CO2 so that we can make more plastic or when they are broken down release more CO2. seems kind of self defeating.  I thought the whole idea behind carbon sequestration was to remove it from the atmosphere and put it into a form that is stable, say graphite.
 
2020-09-29 4:20:41 PM  

Geotpf: aneki: I support green progress. But I've never had any doubt we could science our way out of it if we had to.

Neat concept.

I'm a combo optimist/pessimist in terms of global warming.

I think it will happen and there's not much that can be done to stop it on a practical level.  However, I think the negative effects are somewhat overstated and humans will adapt to such fairly easily.


Yeah, every expert in the field disagrees with you on the adaptation part of your thesis. Millions and millions of people are going to be displaced. Coastland is going to disappear. Food supplies will be disrupted. This is going to be a shiat show if we can't pull the carbon from the air and decrease our emissions.
 
2020-09-29 4:21:00 PM  
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2020-09-29 4:52:16 PM  

Geotpf: However, I think the negative effects are somewhat overstated and humans will adapt to such fairly easily.


And you have evidence to back up this "thought"?  Because what you're claiming directly contradicts what all of climate science (and the thousands of people who literally study this their entire lives) have concluded.  Separately.  Across different economies, political interests, sub-disciplines and interdisciplinary work, race and gender lines, and national interests.

Humans aren't going to adapt "fairly easily" to losing many inland miles of coastal land in a couple of decades to sea level rise.  You know, where most cities are.  We're not going to adapt "fairly easily" to huge shifts in which land is feasible to farm from one year to the next.  You know, when the famines start because we can't get food moved and our breadbaskets start collapsing.  Globally.  Nor to massive animal and plant extinction.

So, please, share with us your Nobel-winning wisdom that will reshape what seventy-five years of extensive study and tens of thousands of scientists have concluded.
 
2020-09-29 5:05:32 PM  

iaazathot: Geotpf: aneki: I support green progress. But I've never had any doubt we could science our way out of it if we had to.

Neat concept.

I'm a combo optimist/pessimist in terms of global warming.

I think it will happen and there's not much that can be done to stop it on a practical level.  However, I think the negative effects are somewhat overstated and humans will adapt to such fairly easily.

Yeah, every expert in the field disagrees with you on the adaptation part of your thesis. Millions and millions of people are going to be displaced. Coastland is going to disappear. Food supplies will be disrupted. This is going to be a shiat show if we can't pull the carbon from the air and decrease our emissions.


Khellendros: Geotpf: However, I think the negative effects are somewhat overstated and humans will adapt to such fairly easily.

And you have evidence to back up this "thought"?  Because what you're claiming directly contradicts what all of climate science (and the thousands of people who literally study this their entire lives) have concluded.  Separately.  Across different economies, political interests, sub-disciplines and interdisciplinary work, race and gender lines, and national interests.

Humans aren't going to adapt "fairly easily" to losing many inland miles of coastal land in a couple of decades to sea level rise.  You know, where most cities are.  We're not going to adapt "fairly easily" to huge shifts in which land is feasible to farm from one year to the next.  You know, when the famines start because we can't get food moved and our breadbaskets start collapsing.  Globally.  Nor to massive animal and plant extinction.

So, please, share with us your Nobel-winning wisdom that will reshape what seventy-five years of extensive study and tens of thousands of scientists have concluded.


You both are ignoring the timeline of the change.  There won't be, for example, "huge shifts in which land is feasible to farm from one year to the next".  One decade to the next, sure.  One year to the next, nope.  There will be plenty of time to enact mitigation plans.  This is a very slow problem, measured in decades, not years.  It's not like productive farmland one year will be useless the next.  Likewise, coastal cities aren't going to flood overnight.

As for animal and plant extinction, I should have been more clear that I was mainly referring to human beings only, particularly first world human beings.  Certain plants and animals that can only survive in narrow climate bands are farked.  Others that thrive in a variety of climates or in the new, hotter one, will blossom.
 
2020-09-30 1:28:50 AM  

tuxq: Aluminum is not the best thing to put in the air.

That's all I'm going to say about that.


Not sure if serious. Trees don't put leaves into the air. They just hang onto the branches and sometime drop to the ground. In any case, if you put alumin-i-um (suck it) into the air, you wouldn't be able to harvest the malate.
 
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